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The word of God,is so pure and edifying ! You can either allow it Help & Heal you (Belief)or Hurt & Harm(Disbelief.

If we abide in Jesus and He abide in us and if we beleive his word and do not doubt we can have the rest in the Lord Jesus Christ,which also consist of the Peace of God. We must get out of the flesh because in our flesh dwelleth no good thing. god gives us peace that passeth all understanding.If we beleive we have rest in Jesus Christ.

I agree with Bro. Daniel. Thank you for your post. Amen!

I BELIEVE, HAVE FAITH, AND KNOW THAT I HAVE UNDERSTANDING. BUT DO I KNOW ALL THINGS THAT GOD SAY? NO. BUT I STILL SEEK TO KNOW! MY LORD AND MY GOD CHRISTJESUS MADE SURE I KNEW WHAT REOENT MEAN, IT MEANS TO TURN AWAY, TURN AWAY FROM EVERY WEIGHT THAT IS HOLDING ME BACK FROM DOING THE WILL OF GOD, AND RECEIVNG HIS GRACE!!! JESUSCHRIST TOLD ME THAT THERE ARE MANY ANTI-CHRIST IN THE WORLD, THEY OF WHOM WE WOULD HAVE NOT EVER THOUGHT, EVEN OUR OWN FAMILY THE MOST, AND THEY THAT ARE CLOSE TO OUR HEARTS.
AND SAIS IN EPHESIANS 6:12, WE WRESTLE OR FIGHT NOT WITH FLESH AND BLOOD(NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY MY UNCLE ALWAYS TRIED TO FIGHT ME, AND WHY OLDER MEN ARE ALWAYS JEALOUS OF YOUNG MEN!!).
IT IS NOT THAT MAN IS JEALOUS OF YOUNG, BUT THAT GOD CREATED MAN TO DO HIS WILL, AND AFTER HIS LIKENESS, AND THAT YOU HAVE THE DEVIL ROAMING TO AND FRO, LIKE A ROARING LION SEEKING WHOM HE MAY DEVOUR, DESTROY!
GOD STILL SPEAKS TO US, AND SAID IN REVELATION 16:14, THAT, THEY ARE SPIRITS OF DEVILS/DEMONS, WORKING MIRACLES/OR PERFORMING SIGNS, WHICH GO FORTH UNTO THE KINGS OF THE EARTH AND TO THE WHOLE WORLD, TO GATHER THEM TO BATTLE AGAINST THE GREAT DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY... UNDERSTAND YOU NOT THAT THE WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH, QUICK, AND POWERFUL AND SHARPER THAN ANY TWO EDGED SWORD, SERIOUSLY AS GOD TOLD US IN HEBREWS 4:12..
AND IS A DICTIONARY, AND A CONCORDANCE, AND A HISTORY BOOK! THIS IS CONFIRMATION THAT THE WORD OF GOD, IS REALLY THE WORD OF GOD AND NOT OF ANY MAN( 2 PETER 1:21).

@Reggie,
May I suggest, letting the Bible explain Hebrews 4: 9, 10.
“9 There remains therefore a rest to the people of God”. The word “rest” in original Greek is “Sabbatismo” from which we get the word ”Sabbath” or the seventh day. This matches perfectly with what verse 10 says: “For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.” Here is that account: Genesis 2 “1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.” Though the Jews kept the seventh day Sabbath, it is not a Jewish sacred day only; it belongs to all of us. It is not a punishment but a privilege. And keeping the Sabbath Day holy is not an option either: It is the fourth of the Ten Commandments ( Exodus 20). Jesus, our Creator gave us the Sabbath at the end of the Creation Week. He kept it holy while on earth, and he bids us to teach all nations “whatsoever I have commanded you” Matthew 28:19, 20. Here is a promise to those who keep it: “If thou turn away thy foot from the Sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honorable; and shalt honor him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words; Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD… for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it”. Isaiah 58: 13, 14. This Sabbath Day will also be celebrated in God’s New Kingdom: “And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.” Isaiah 66:23. Now, how we celebrate the Sabbath is another issue.

The altars were meant for people to pray and talk to Jesus, there he takes our burdens and helps our infirmities.

The whore of Babylon is the Catholic Church. Her daughters are the churches that left the Catholic Church but kept many of its pagan rituals it adopted. Sunday worship Easter, Christmas to name the most recognized. The bible proves the real day Jesus died, the month he was born, and day he rose. It isn't Good Friday, Sunday or December. And nowhere in the Bible is Sunday hallowed and commanded to be kept holy and rested on. These are the traditions of man and Jesus warns us about them in Mark 7:6-9 and 13. And the fourth commandment is the commandment he says is forsaken. Even Martin Luther who was taught as a catholic but called them the whore of Babylon. He even recognized the true Sabbath but didn't want to go through the hassle of changing the status quo. Not surprising seeing as the Catholics were killing Christians that kept the true Sabbath. They did this for 1260 years. This period is known as the dark ages. For anyone that wants to see the proof, there are articles with biblical scripture backed with secular history and archeological proofs. Jesus and Paul warned of the false teachers and christs. The Bereans read the Old Testament scriptures to prove what Paul was teaching in the synagogues on the Sabbath. Because there was no New Testament then. The Bible says that He was "without sin" ( Hebrews 4:15). And "sin IS the transgression of the law" ( 1 John 3:4, KJV). So we know that Jesus never transgressed God's law-including the fourth commandment about keeping the Sabbath holy. If Jesus had broken the Sabbath, He would have earned the wages of sin-death ( Romans 6:23), and could not have become our Savior. It is clear, then, that Jesus never broke even the least of God's commandments, nor taught men to do so. On the contrary, He said, "I have KEPT My Father's commandments" ( John 15:10). Furthermore, at the very beginning of His ministry, Jesus set the standard for what would be His lifelong example: "So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His CUSTOM was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read" ( Luke 4:16). Again, in Luke 13:10, we read, "Now He was teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath." The Law of Moses to this day is read in the synagogues. So don't fall for the deception it was nailed to the cross. The reason Jesus called the Pharisees sons of Satan they had added over 60 laws to the Sabbath day not ordered by God. These laws were nailed to the cross along with ceremonial laws like circumcision mentioned in acts.. That is the leaven Jesus tells us not to listen to. Acts 15:20, We should instead write a letter, instructing them to abstain from four things: first, things associated with idol worship; second, sexual immorality; third, food killed by strangling; and fourth, blood. Verse 21, My reason for these four exceptions is that in every city there are Jewish communities where, for generations, the laws of Moses have been proclaimed; and on every Sabbath, Moses is read in synagogues everywhere. Again the Sabbath is expected to be kept by the gentiles to hear the laws of Moses. So the apostles don't think the law was nailed to the cross.

The Rest of God means that we no longer have to make sacrifices for our sin, because WE live by faith not by sight.

The "REST" of God is not "keeping" anything or any special day, it is a state of surrender and trust, in the One who is keeping you. Agape. – Reggie.

It's for all help in time of need.

In all, we are reminded again and again, by God that unrighteousness shall fall and righteousness shall be rewarded, for each one will have to stand before the judgment seat of God and account for our rights and wrongs. God already knows for He is omniscient (God knows all and sees all, there is nothing that we can hide from Him, Hebrews 4:12. All we have to do is simply follow God’s word and we will be alright! You couldn’t get better advise, because it comes from the giver of all life ( Hebrews 12). Love all, forgive all, don’t let it be too late for you! God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he reap also!

God's wisdom has Fatherly instructions, corrections, admonitions, information and guidance in them. As a matter of divine fact, His Wisdom originates from a heart of love, mercy, and compassion that are beyond human comprehension. Therefore, they are meant to stir you and I, as it were, into the favours and strength of God. And because God is God, and there is none compared to Him, it means that He can't lie. Hence, it is worthwhile and wise to give concentrated attention to His Word. God's Word is His Wisdom and His wisdom are His dictates, and they are meant for the good of whoever believes ( 2 Corinthians 12:9; Hebrews 4:16). Truthfully speaking, the fact that God does not do evil, but that He only does what is good and right, should encourage whoever cares to listen, to plunge into His truths, and also into His wisdom- and that must be through Jesus Christ, and also through the Holy Spirit, the Eternal Spirit ( 1 Corinthians 5:10; 2 Corinthians 3:5). The nuggets of truths, in this Proverbs 4, like others, are godlike precepts and instructions that are incomparable, good and right for the human soul, and for the spirit man, the hidden man of the heart, - and that mainly refers to the recreated human spirit. They are facets of biblical truths that are encouraging and also excellent for the godly type of life that many are craving and thirsting for ( Psalms 1:1-3, Psalms 37:4; Ephesians 1:17). Interestingly, depending perhaps on what background, a Christian comes from, the fact is that for the really genuine and committed type of Christian, a time will or must come that he will come into the knowledge that this God of Israel, the Father of our LORD Jesus Christ deserves to be magnified, glorified and worshipped; for there is none like Him ( John 4:23; 1 Peter 1:25). Thus, the place of wisdom, in the lives of whoever desires and dares to love and honour the Living God ( John 1:12; 3:16). He is, all that matters- and when you and I key into His love and faithfulness, He will do great wonders through us to the glory of His name. In view of these and many other things vis a vis the Word of God, wisdom dictates that we give ourselves committedly unto the LORD, and to His Word ( Matthew 6:33,34). There are challenges upon challenges that confront us, as individuals, and that is why, these truths and instructions, as contained in Proverbs, and throughout the pages of the Holy Writ, demand that we be faithfully committed to them. Remember, we have been accepted, into the family of the Beloved, and that refers to Jesus Christ ( John 17:3; Romans 8: 15; Ephesians 2:18; Galatians 4:16,1; Hebrews 9:14; 1 John 4:3; 5:13). And that is where the grace of God comes on board; His grace is more than sufficient ( 1 Corinthians 15:10; 2 Corinthians 3:5; 2 Corinthians 12:9). God has abilities no matter what task or assignment He has called you and I for. When you commit yourself to God's dictates and function in line with them, Angels will go on assignment for you ( John 15:7; James 4:16.). There are levels and degrees of encounters with God, that we can't get into except through daily obedience and practical submission to the Word of God. In fact there is nothing, as far as I know that can surpass what God has given. He has given Jesus Christ, who is referred to biblically, as the Wisdom of God, - and that is for the salvation and redemption of humanity. And when you belong to Him through the agency of the new birth, you automatically become joint heirs with Him. And with that you are sorted if you know how to walk or function in love, and then take advantage of what He has given through Christ Jesus, the Saviour of the World. The essence of these is that we should give attention to wisdom, embrace it, reflect upon it, and practice it. God's instructions and precepts demands heartfelt obedience ( Psalm 119:6; John 14:15; John 15:120; 1 Corinthians 7:19; 1 Peter 1:25; 1 John 5:3). It says whatever you do in word and deed, do it heartily as unto the LORD. Hence, in the things of the Spirit, and that refers to the Holy Spirit, high level of commitment should be the norm, and that is because God cannot lie, - and His Word is forever infallible ( John 1:1-14; Hebrews 4). Truly, God is forever trustworthy.

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@Mindy,
There is difference to make between questions that are asked to profit, and those tha are asked to distract or deter. And verse 9 here is very clear: “.. avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.” Those should be avoided, because they bring nowhere.
Now coming to Jeremiah 17:9, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” That means that above all things, our heart can tell us lies than ever, because it is wicked, it tends to tell us that evil is good, which actually is not the case.
The only cure is in Hebrews 4:12 “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
When the word of God dwells in us, and is in rule in our life, God’s judgments become our judgments, God’s views become our views; and with that the word shall separate very sharply, like a twoedged sword, what is of God and what is not, it shall bring light in every single aspect of our life; and then show us the way out.
God bless you.

This is my favorite scripture, too! There is an entire sermon in it for any preacher!

Verse 12: Whose fan is in his hand,.. The fan is the word of GOD BECAUSE IT DISCERNS THE THOUGHTS AND INTENTS OF MEN ( HEBREWS 4:2)AND JUDGES MEN'S EVIL WAYS ( Revelation 20:13). ...PURGE HIS FLOOR, -THE FLOOR IS THE EARTH AND ALL ITS CREATION, IN THIS CASE THE HUMAN BEINGS. IF THE FLOOR MENTIONED HERE IS THE CHURCH, THEN WHAT ABOUT UNBELIEVERS, SINCE THEY ARE GOING TO BE JUDGED TOO AND THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE CHURCH? THE WHEAT IS THE CHRISTIANS AND THE CHAFF STANDS FOR UNBELIVERS ( ROMANS 10:16). THE GARNER IS HEAVEN AND THE UNQUENCHABLE FIRE IS THE LAKE OF FIRE MADE FOR SATAN.

The Almighty God finished the work of salvation by the death and resurrection of Jesus from the dead. There is now therefore no condemnation for anyone who is in Christ Jesus. By the same token, God has called us to the life of rest in Him. That means to me that God the Creator of heaven and earth is in control, and He wants me to rest. Now all of my desires have been relinquished to Him. It is wonderful.

Hebrew 4:12 says that the word of God is alive and powerful that it can separate the soul from the spirit and the word can judge our hearts, minds, and intents. That’s powerful.

Entering into Gods rest is honoring and keeping the Sabbath a day holy, after all every law, commandment and statute is still in effect with the exception of burnt offerings as that was done away with when Jesus died for our sins...

WONDERFUL, THE WORD OF OUR FATHER GOD, JESUS OUR LORD AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. READING HEBREWS CHAPTER 4 AND READING EVERYTHING SOO GOOD, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE BEEN IN CHURCH. GOD BLESS

The Holy Scripture has all manner of dictates, precepts, notions and principles in it that has been given for whosoever believeth. As a matter of fact, God has no choice to do it like that, because, primarily He is the Creator of the Heaven and the earth- and also He created man in His image. Hence, when a person has given his or her life to Jesus Christ as LORD and Saviour, it then connotes that such a person has become not only joint heirs with the LORD, but also that he or she is an agent of righteousness on this planet earth to the glory of he Holy and righteous God.
Hence, the writer of Hebrews in it’s 4th chapter, the reminds the Church of God’s holy promises that are, in His covenant that we ensure that we live in accordance with the Word of the Eternal God. Why is this? It is that we can have what it takes to enter into the blessings of His promises; for therein, there is peace of mind and the type of rest that God has given for they that loveth Him.

However, this of a necessity demands the God kind of faith with particular regards to the doctrine of justification through the weaponry of faith. ( Romans 1:16,17)There are many implications to this- it then signifies that as believers, that believes, in the resurrected LORD, we must put our dependency on the living God, through Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the holy Son of God. And that is because, as the author and also the developer of our faith, He knows and understands what we may be going through; for He Himself, has been through it, hence the need for, total reliance on the faithfulness of God, and also on the infallibility of the Holy Scripture.Therefore, when we come to the throne of grace, we know with certainty, that we have a high priest in the God Head, who is ready and as a matter of fact has dispensed and made available His favours that we may obtain it through the tool of faith that honours God. Thus we have been admonished through this 4th chapter, that we may do according to the spirit of the Holy Writ, to the glory of God; for He is forever trustworthy.

Re: The meaning of "the Word of God is quick".
It's my understanding that the word "quick" also means "living", so we are talking about the "living Word of God.

Jesus is our high priest and He is the most appropriate and the most qualified one.He is ever considerate,hence we are very safe in His judgement for He provides us a ready help always.The only determining factor is our willingness to accept His help.What a fantastic privilege!

what is the meaning of the word quick-the word of God is quick

Jesus is the rest for us, as he has completed the law, and is seated at the right hand of the father in heaven. When we accept him as Lord of our lives, we enter his rest. Praise God for this promise, and may you enjoy the rest that we have in the risen Lord Jesus Christ. Believe that he died on the cross for our sins, was buried, and rose the third day for our justification. Confess with your mouth that he is Lord, and thou shall be saved. May you rest in what Jesus has done for us as the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.

MY SPIRIT LOVES THESE WORDS. MY JOY IN SPIRIT GROWS.

my spirit loves these words.

Oh now i understand. The rest is having ALL assurance in JESUS CHRIST. THE REST OF KNOWING WHO GOD IS.

what is the promise REST. WILL SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THIS TO ME

i am really inspired by vs 16, that says we should approaching the throne of grace with boldness not with fear and unbelief
if we mix the word we ve heard with unbelief it cannot work for us....