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Who are the Sons of God in Genesis 6 before the flood of Noah?

Sons of God (ANGELS) shout before the world began - Adam man came 6 days later. How can Adam shout before he existed?

Job 38:4 - Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:5 - Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job 38:6 - Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 - When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD sons of God shouted for joy?

How can the sons of God be men since they were shouting for joy when the earth was created?

Adam man did not come till 6 days AFTER the earth was made.

Adam was a Son of God since he created him -

Angels are SONS of God since God created them and was their Father

Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN SON of GOD -

Believers DO NOT become Sons of God till they are born again of the Holy Spirit only in the new testament

So were all the SONS OF GOD of Genesis 6 the men who were ALL righteous

the DAUGHTERS OF MEN were all women who were ALL wicked and evil

So all the men were godly and the women were evil ?

Really can we believe this: all the men were godly and the women were evil

then the godly men and wicked women got married and believers and unbelievers had children who were GIANTS

so where are these giants today? Playing for the NBA?

2 Samuel 21:20 - And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.

so see any unbelievers running around with 6 fingers and toes?

then the Lord commanded all the they be killed? What?

No the fallen angels tried to corrupt the blood line of the chosen seed. that is why the Lord commanded the Cannanites be exterminated.

And God knows who to trust from the 1st age...........those who are written in the Lamb's book of life from the beginning (1st age). The Called, Chosen and Faithful, the Elect/ Ephes: 4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Eric, I'm not sure whether you are in agreement with Peter Grant or myself, by quoting his quote: "Does a spinning ball earth rocketing wildly through ( so called space) have have foundations? If he were alive his answer would have to be no!". Your question is a little open-ended.

He believes in a flat Earth around which revolves the Sun & Moon. I submit to the more conventional view. So, I'm sorry, I don't know the intent of your question.

Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

circle of the earth, circle of the earth, circle of the earth.

a pancake?

Does it say a spinning ball hurtling through space?? No it doesn't.

Job 38 tells us the Sons of God shouted for joy at the creation of the earth. Adam did not come until 6 days AFTER the creation of the earth. So Adam could not have shouted for Joy before he was in existence. So the Sons of God of Job 38 must be angels., unless Adam shouted for joy before he existed.

Believers do not become Sons of God till they are born of the Spirit in the New Testament. Adam was called a Son of God since he had no earthly mother and Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN Son of God. Angels are not THE SON OF GOD, they are Sons of God.

Job 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

After all who was the FATHER of the Angels? think about it.

Nephillim part 1 Who are the Sons of God in Genesis 6 before the flood of Noah?

Sons of God (ANGELS) shout before the world began - Adam man came 6 days later.

Job 38:4 - Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:5 - Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job 38:6 - Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 - When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD sons of God shouted for joy?

How can the sons of God be men since they were shouting for joy when the earth was created?

Adam man did not come till 6 days AFTER the earth was made.

Adam was a Son of God since he created him -

Angels are SONS of God since God created them and was their Father

Jesus is the only BEGOTTEN SON of GOD -

Believers DO NOT become Sons of God till they are born again of the Holy Spirit only in the new testament

So were all the SONS OF GOD of Genesis 6 the men who were ALL righteous?

the DAUGHTERS OF MEN were all women who were ALL wicked and evil?

So all the men were godly and the women were evil ?

Really can we believe this: all the men were godly and the women were evil

then the godly men and wicked women got married and believers and unbelievers had children who were GIANTS

so where are these giants today? Playing for the NBA?

2 Samuel 21:20 - And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.

so see any unbelievers running around with 6 fingers and toes?

then the Lord commanded all the they be killed

1 Chron 20:4 - And it came to pass after this, that there arose WAR WAR WAR at Gezer with the Philistines; at which time Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Sippai, that was of the children of the giant: and they were subdued.

Whatever - I repent and sincerely apologize to any "Christian German Scientists labeled a Nazi " But they lied about landing land on something Yahweh has called a light Gen

1. Isaiah 40:22 calls the earth a circle.

2. NASA doesn't control everything in the skies. You tried to discredit some scientists for being from Germany. Is that their fault? My family is from Germany and we're Christian, are you calling us Nazis? Have you even been to Germany? When a country gets a corrupt oppressive ruler its a logical fallacy to assume all its people suddenly become evil. The fact is the vast majority of Germans were against the Nazi rule and were scared and propaganda lies made them not know the truth of what was going on.

3. The circle of the earth is easily proven by flying on an airplane. If you go high up you can see curvature of the horizon. Also, you can fly all the way around the world in a straight line and end up at your place of origin. I've already done this myself and proved the earth is a sphere. Have you ever traveled? This is a very easy experiment you can do, so what would prevent you from doing this? God already gave us the brains and resources to explore our natural world. People already do this all the time for work, vacation, etc. So when you do this you won't see any folds, no 'end' point, which is because its a sphere with gravity pulling from the middle. Otherwise where is your source of gravity? So, you expect to 'fall off' the end and 'down' in space? Where is down? Anyway you could simply take a GPS and plot all the waypoints of your flight then later plot in software and you'll see its a globe/circle just as God said.

4. There's a mountain of photo/video evidence of what the earth looks like from space. Thousands of photos/videos from before CGI was invented and before non-linear video editing was invented. What prevents you from writing/talking to the people who have been space? All the other stars and planets we can already see are also circles/spheres. We have lots of satellites orbiting earth all the time, which allows you to have internet service, to use websites like this, to read the Bible online, etc. God bless!

Well what can I say- Except God bless you Sir - Seems your mind is made up!! - I am deeply concerned in your belief in Masonic CGI imitation pictures of earth from so called space.

NASA was founded with scientists from NAZI Germany (Research operation Paper clip)

I base my reasoning on over 200 verses of scripture in Gods word that proves NASA to be a deceptive Organization that built it's reputation with former members from a defeated Satanic Regime that slaughtered millions of Gods chosen people!!

I could go on but it seems you are not open to the possibility God created a flat non - rotating earth even (As you say ) he can measure a spinning ball rocketing wildly through the firmament with a line and know the number of hairs on our heads - Seems to me a FE would be a walk in the park for him. May the lord Bless you and your family abundantly!!

I agree with you. Neither you nor I can measure a spinning ball rocketing wildly through the firmament with a line. But God can! He even knows the number of hairs on your head ( Mt 10:30). However, I can't help you with your belief in a flat Earth; I just go by the photos from space - & that'll do me for now. Maybe for interests sake & in understanding the Wisdom of God, (& not asking for much), you could take the mileage from Budgewoi to Sydney to the centimetre & see if you are satisfied with the outcome. Just maybe we have to rely on God for His Abilities & Wisdom that are far more superior to ours.

The Lord God Almighty is asking Job - "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the Earth?"

Let me ask this this question of Job also " Does a spinning ball earth rocketing wildly through ( so called space) have have foundations? If he were alive his answer would have to be no!

In verse 5, the Lord also asks Job "Who has measured it - Do you know?" Or who has stretched a line upon it? (to measure it)

Let me ask you this "How can anyone measure a spinning ball earth rocketing wildly through (to be precise) The FIRMAMENT with a line? Only a flat surface can be measured with a line!

God is being mocked by a lie of a spinning ball Earth

LET GOD BE TRUE AND EVERY MAN A LAIR!! ( Rom 3:4)

Chris and all, You mean Gen 4. Questions: According to the Genesis account, there were only 4 people on the Earth when Cain killed Abel. So, who was Abel keeping flocks for? 4 people? And who was Cain farming for?

In 4:13 Cain says, "I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and WHOEVER finds me will kill me." Who is he referring to if there were no other people alive at the time? In 4:15, "The Lord put a mark on Cain so no one who found him would kill him." The Land of Nod was named after Nod. Who was Nod? In that land, Cain found a wife and had children and built a city. Is it fair to assume his was not the only city?

On Job 1:12, we see how God instructs Satan on what he is to do to Job. It is clear from Satan's response that he did not have the authority to do as he pleased. If he did, why would he accept the limits God placed on Him? Why did he even show up to God? Did he just want to have a nice chat over Tortillas and Enchiladas? What did Jesus say to Peter, Lk 22:31, "Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift each of you like wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith will not fail."

Did Satan ask to ruin God's creation? if not, why would he ask permission to go after Peter? Did he ask permission to go after Adam and Eve? When Jesus cast the demons out of a demented man, what happened? They asked Christ for permission to enter the pigs, Lk 8. See Job 38:33-35, "Do you know the laws of the heavens? Can you set up God's e dominion over the earth? Do you send the lightning bolts on their way?

Do they report to you, 'Here we are'?"

Job had went through much sorrow and in that sorrow, he uttered things that were true to him, without the knowledge of God. We can relate, so many times we complain and murmur when we get into sorrowful or hard trials and tribulation. Through his afflictions, God humbles him in this chapter and makes him perceive that God is in control and makes no mistakes. God begins to ask him questions that are a mystery to him, in order to convey that he is still God even in situations that we do not understand. Never before had a righteous man gone through the things that Job went through. God wanted to convey to us that despite living righteous lives we may go through troubling times!

Sons of God (ANGELS) shout before the world began - Adam man came 6 days later.
Job 38:4 - Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:5 - Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

Job 38:6 - Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

Job 38:7 - When the morning stars sang together, and all the SONS OF GOD sons of God shouted for joy?

How can the sons of God be men since they were shouting for joy when the earth was created?
Adam man did not come till 6 days AFTER the earth was made.

Adam was a Son of God since he created him -

Is aligning oneself w/God's will compatible w/free will? Are we responsible for our actions, worthy of praise and blame? Not my will, but Thine be done, Jesus says at Gesthemane. I believe we have free will, unlike e. g. Sam Harris. He is a determinist, denies free will. I need an answer to this.

Compare Job 38:22-23 with Revelation 16:21.

Compare Revelation 16:21 with Job 38:22-23.

Like any time you read God's Word always pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you to what is needed for today. Job has come to the point where his so called friends have persuaded him that all this death and sickness is because he has sinned against God. But before Job is about to say the unthinkable, look what it says in 38:1 "Then the Lord answered Job". Never assume that Lord forsakes His own

If Called,Washed in His Blood, You will be Baptized with The Holy Ghost ( Mark 1:8)
If Anyone be in Christ, He is a New Creature---- All Things Will Become New ( 2Corinthians 5:17) You Will Know, Impossible not to. / Just by Prayer, Reading His Word ( No Other Books, Commentaries, TV, Internet. Just The KJV ) Telling Others The Way of Salvation and what He has Done in Your Life / It will Take time.

I am new to the TRUTH yet i a have always believed in THE MOST HIGH. I read but I do not understand what it is I am reading and I ask that my ELOHIM will guide me and help to understand. Can someone please explain what this means, so that I may get understanding? Thank you

Whatsoever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven? Job 38:31,Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades, Or loose the cords of Orion? these are stars or hosts of heaven Angels fallen we can bind them in the second heaven in the name and power of Yeshua Jesus Messiah, How awesome, Amen

The sons of God were the fallen angels who fell from heaven, which took the form of human-like creatures, and married the daughters of men, and the giants (the Nephilim) were the result of this sinful act. Genesis 6:4-8. The male angels (sons of God) Job 38:7 - Job 1:6.

Read the Book. Isaiah 45:18, earth form beautiful beginning Proverbs 8:22 to 31wisdom with God creation of earth. Job 38:7 at the foundation the sons of God and His stars/children. Verse saying every soul God had created rejoicing at our beautiful home earth. With a Father our God that has been around for billions of eternal years which the scriptures say we lived with how can you not believe it.

Mark Edens, I thought this may be interesting for you. I just read a commentary about Job 1
Read Job 38:1-7. This expla
ins the "sons of God". This is at the beginning of creation, they are
created angels. I now believe Satan would not have been allowed in the third Heaven, where
God's throne is located. Where the four beasts are constantly saying HOLY,HOLY,HOLY.
Rev 4:8 and Satan is not.

To Word, In Job 38:4 God is speaking to Job, "WHERE WERE YOU when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell me, if you know so much." If Job wasn't there when God created the earth, then you and I and all the souls your talking about were not present either! God is speaking to the Angels.

Job 38:4-7(NLT)Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell me, if you know so much. Who determined its dimensions and stretched out the surveying line? What supports its foundations, and who laid its cornerstone as the morning stars sang together and all the ANGELS shouted for joy? Who was God talking to? God was talking to his angels when he created the heavens and earth.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Son of the morning- Not morning star Damian Rivas- Jesus was called the Bright and morning star not just morning star

The word star means angels ( why we must think about who is in hollywood ) but that is for another discussion- But- Job 38:7

When Satan was kicked out of Heaven ( Isaiah 14:12-14), he took a third of the angels with him ( Job 38:7; Revelation 12:4). This means that there are twice as many of God's angels as there are of Satan's, not to mention that God Himself is with us ( Psalm 46:7). Truly, there be more with us than there are with them.

To all of my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus: That man of sin, the son of perdition, has been revealed to us by the Holy Spirit of God. The same is Lucifer Isaiah 14:8 thru 15 and the Assyrian Isaiah 10:5 and Isaiah 14:25 . The same is the great dragon, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world Revelation 12:9 . The same is the lion Job 4:10, Job 38:39, Psalms 22:21, Psalms 91:13, Jeremiah 4:7, Jeremiah 25:38, Amos 3:8, Nahum 2:11, Nahum 2:12, 2 Timothy 4:17 and 1 Peter 5:8 . The same was involved in the 2005 Cedar Revolution in Lebanon Isaiah 14:8 . The same speaks very softly in his interviews see Job 41:3 yet the mighty of the world are terrified of him, and rightly so, to the point of urinating their pants Job 41:25 . The same was born in Damascus on 11 September 1965. His last name in Arabic means "the lion". Pray to our Father in heaven, in the name of our Lord and Savior JESUS CHRIST, that we may be found worthy to escape this evil! May the Lord JESUS be glorified. Amen