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  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    There's Judgment for sinners and There's chastening for believers.

    Ether way I don't wish this on no one!

    Hebrews 10:26-31.

    That's one reason why we preach the cross Continuously! There's blessings and on the other hand There's consequences therefore we preach repentance.

    If there's no damnable consequences why preach?

    We've been given an urge to preach God's grace. OUR MESSAGE HAS VIRTUE! IT IS SALVATION!!

    It has eternal security for the believer! and it has the ONLY escape from Hell. It brings those out of darkness.

    If there is another Gospel out there that don't have repentance, Holiness, no wrath of God and no hell. THEN IT CAN'T HAVE SALVATION. " What are you saved from? And if all go to heaven no matter what. Why do you preach and stand in the way of THE Gospel that we preach? It shouldn't bother you unless we have opposing spirits.

    Here's what that heresy looks like .

    They treat wrath as if it's reward. This is a errored teaching against the effects of the cross.

    It speaks in this manner, "Forget the cross, We needs God's wrath!

    Forget Holllyness, do evil so we can be thrown in the lake of fire and be purified.

    It says Jesus died in vain!

    It says God Love on display when Christ died on the cross was pointless.

    Thet look at John 3:16. and

    John 15:13, They don't say thank you Lord, They say it was unnecessary.

    There's no preaching forgiveness for sins to those who trust In Christ, It says hell and the punishment reserved for Satan and his Angels is what you need.

    Here's a direct quote from one just a few days ago "

    .....Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire....thank you Jesus that is what we ALL NEED....His baptism of the HG and Fire.

    That's their Goodnews/Gospel.

    They say this is from God but they can't take that to their local Church. But they come on the site to attack the truth.

    Romans 10:15.

    Mark 16:15.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    There's Judgment for sinners and There's chastening for believers.

    Ether way I don't wish this on no one!

    Hebrews 10:26-31.

    That's one reason why we preach the cross Continuously! There's blessings and on the other hand There's consequences therefore we preach repentance.

    If there's no damnable consequences why preach?

    We've been given an urge to preach God's grace. OUR MESSAGE HAS VIRTUE! IT IS SALVATION!!

    It has eternal security for the believer! and it has the ONLY escape from Hell. It brings those out of darkness.

    If there is another Gospel out there that don't have repentance, Holiness, no wrath of God and no hell. THEN IT CAN'T HAVE SALVATION. " What are you saved from? And if all go to heaven no matter what. Why do you preach and stand in the way of THE Gospel that we preach? It shouldn't bother you unless we have opposing spirits.

    Here's what that heresy looks like .

    They treat wrath as if it's reward. This is a errored teaching against the effects of the cross.

    It speaks in this manner, "Forget the cross, We needs God's wrath!

    Forget Holllyness, do evil so we can be thrown in the lake of fire and be purified.

    It says Jesus died in vain!

    It says God Love on display when Christ died on the cross was pointless.

    Thet look at John 3:16. and

    John 15:13, They don't say thank you Lord, They say it was unnecessary.

    There's no preaching forgiveness for sins to those who trust In Christ, It says hell and the punishment reserved for Satan and his Angels is what you need.

    Here's a direct quote from one just a few days ago "

    .....Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire....thank you Jesus that is what we ALL NEED....His baptism of the HG and

    Fire.

    That's their Goodnews/Gospel.

    They say this is from God but they can't take that to their local Church. But they come on the site to attack the truth.

    Romans 10:15.

    Mark 16:15.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    Amen S.

    Well spoken.

    1 John 2:12.

    I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you "FOR HIS NAME'S SAKE."

    Who's name SAKE? God.

    That speaks volumes!

    John 3:18. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    Thanks and

    God bless
  • Chris - In Reply on John 16 - 2 years ago
    Page 2 of 2.

    Finally, did Muhammed glorify Jesus in the Qur'an? Only as Prophet (Surah 33:7; Surah 5:46, & many more). He refused Jesus' Sonship (Surah 4:171; Surah 9:31). Yet, Jesus Himself spoke of His Sonship He had with His Father ( John 3:16; Matthew 11:37; John 17:1).

    So trying to find any inference to Muhammed in the Bible ensures a fruitless search - only found in the Qur'an & later documents. The Bible cannot be used to show Muhammed's coming or his work. Jesus came, His Spirit was then given and now the only prophecy yet to be fulfilled is the coming Great Tribulation on the Earth & then the coming of Jesus Christ, the Lord of Glory, to reign for a thousand years, when all evil will be bound & Satan locked away.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Love.

    John 15:13. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

    John 3:16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Redemption.

    To fully appreciate this Love, one would have to believe we've been Redeemed from something!! There would have to be consequences for the opposition.

    We've been bought with the blood of Christ!

    John 3:35-36. The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

    He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: AND HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT THE SON SHALL NOT SEE LIFE; BUT THE WRATH OF GOD abideth on him.

    The narrow gate.

    The only way to the father is by the son. John 14:6.

    However not many will find it.

    Matthew 7:13-14. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

    Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    Here we see two groups with separate destinations.

    Matthew 25:41, 46. Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, DEPART FROM ME, YE CURSED, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS:

    And these shall go away into EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT: BUT THE RIGHTEOUS INTO LIFE ETERNAL.

    Note.

    Everlasting punishment is not a refining fire. It's EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT.

    These verses have to be taken literal, that's the only way that Love is displayed.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Kay!

    What was the purpose of Jesus coming into this world and suffering the way he did if there's no damnable outcome for those who reject Christ!

    John 3:18. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. This speaks against the notion everyone will be saved!

    Luke 19:10. For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost. Saved from what?

    Was all the Apostles killed for nothing?

    Those who say there's no Hell or Satan preaches against the cross.

    The big question for those who present this doctrine is

    What is the purpose and virtue of their message? Why bother?

    It tells the sinner, "You shall not surely die!" That's not the Gospel!

    God bless.
  • Phyllis - In Reply on 2 Corinthians 4 - 2 years ago
    The things for us to know have been revealed but also more shall be revealed in the future (PLEASE read: 1 Corinthians 13:9-12); however, what we do know is that it's absolutely necessary to accept Truth prior to leaving this Earth, especially if one deems it necessary to be at peace with The CREATOR here on Earth, and also in the Afterlife. Obviously, the only other option is to spend the Afterlife in fire described as being seven times hotter than Earthly fire, in utter darkness, with a hellified angry Satan, and his demons, and other things that are guaranteed to bring indescribable torture in a place that could only be described as Hell; and that itself, will be cast into the Lake of Fire that burns... brimstone Revelation 20:10 &

    Revelation 21:7-8:

    7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his GOD, and he shall be My son.

    8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    At least on Earth, we are given the opportunity to repent, or to get it right, and keep it right as King David did but the Afterlife, has more sense of an irrevocable permanence.

    St. John 3:5-7

    JESUS answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of GOD.

    6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

    2 Peter 2:21

    "For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them."
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    The Natural Man.

    Part 1 of 2.

    In 1 Corinthians 2:6-16, the natural man is compared to the spiritual man and the carnal man. Verse 14 says, "A natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. This verse does not define the natural man, as such; rather, it uses the term to describe one who does not understand God's words and thoughts. The one who can understand God's words is a "spiritual" man (verse 15).

    Dr. Henry Morris, in the New Defender's Study Bible, gives this comment on verse 14: "The 'natural' man, still unsaved, cannot appreciate spiritual truths. He must first understand Christ's atoning sacrifice for him, but even that is 'foolishness' to him (1:18) until the Holy Spirit Himself convicts him of its reality ( John 16:7-11)." Basically, the "natural" man is one who does not have the Holy Spirit residing within him. As Jesus said, "Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit" ( John 3:6).

    Let's look at some other uses in the Bible of the word natural. In Romans 11:21 we read, "For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will He spare you." In 1 Corinthians 15:44-46, "It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, then there is also a spiritual body. However the spiritual is not first, but the natural; then the spiritual." Ezekiel 44:31 speaks of a natural death. Daniel 10:8 speaks of a natural color. James 1:23 speaks of a natural face, and James 3:15 states, "This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, "natural", demonic."

    See Part 2.
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sister Kay:

    The Father lives where his throne is, in heaven.

    Revelation 1:1 ...and he SIGNIFIED it ....

    Matthew 13:34 And these things (his words) spake he unto the multitude in PARABLES, and without a PARABLE he SPAKE NOT unto them.

    Matthew 13:13 Therefore spake I to them in PARABLES: because seeing, they SEE NOT, and hearing they HEAR NOT, neither do they UNDERSTAND.

    You see the word heaven and you know heaven is a place; But, seeing you see not, neither do they understand.

    Heaven is SIGNIFIED, and a PARABLE, a high meaning than the literal.

    Heaven is were God dwells, God is LIFE, God dwell IN YOU, God is THE LIFE IN YOU. God is SPIRIT.

    John 3:6 .... that which is BORN of Spirit is Spirit: God is Spirit.

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods (born of Spirit) the CHILDREN of the MOST HIGH.

    Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the Kingdom of God, so we are BORN AGAIN into Spirit, and God is Spirit, THE KINGDOM of GOD.

    The NEW CREATION, of two, You and Christ, to MAKE ONE. The Spirit Man, Christ.

    The FIRSTBORN among many BRETHREN.

    God Bless YOU!
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Kay: Heavenly bread for the digestion.

    Revelation 13:8 And ALL that dwell upon the earth, (this will come to pass at the second resurrection, back to their flesh, TO JUDGEMENT) shall worship him, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the book of Life of the Lamb slain FROM the foundations of the world.

    Isaiah 26:9 ...and when thy JUDGEMENTS (second resurrection) are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    Psalms 149:9 To execute on them the JUDGEMENT WRITTEN, this honour hath all his saints.

    We will either be the JUDGES bringing the world to righteousness, or we will be the JUDGED, learning righteousness.

    John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is IN HEAVEN.

    Colossians 1:27 ....this MYSTERY .....CHRIST IN YOU ......

    Revelation 21:1 And I saw a NEW HEAVEN (Christ in YOU) and a NEW EARTH (where RIGHTEOUSNESS will DWELL), for the former HAD PASSED AWAY.

    These scriptures teach there is neither heaven or hell, as taught by the traditions of man.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Chris - In Reply on James 2 - 2 years ago
    Hi Dgjot. I believe that James 2:14-17 is given essentially to those in the family of God. Also 1 John 3:17. Our care & concern must first be to those 'within', as also in Acts 2:44,45 (to all, according to each one's need).

    But should "Christian charity" be confined to those in the faith? We can think of the parable of the Good Samaritan ( Luke 10:30-36). A certain lawyer came to Jesus enquiring about attaining eternal life. Jesus asked him of what the Law required. He quoted correctly, but then asked, 'who is this neighbour that I'm supposed to love'? And Jesus' parable gave him the answer.

    Yes, we must care for our own house first, whether one's earthly or spiritual family. But that love in our hearts must be demonstrated to others in need, maybe I should say, in real need; for there are many that wilfully misuse what they have & so find themselves in poverty. Yet, many others are genuinely in financial trouble, & we might be able to provide either some money, food or goods to help them out. I don't look at the 'Christ deniers' spirit when giving help to others, rather, whether there is a real need there - and usually God's Spirit instructs & prompts me to give or not. And you can give to them, in the Name of Jesus the Lord, that the receiver might know that this small gift is directed by Him through you, His servant.

    But I agree with you, if you know of people or organizations that promote ungodliness & are destroyers of people's lives or country, then your gifts are better served to those who are in genuine need & their appreciation for your help & quick chat with them, will be a blessing to you both.
  • Bj - In Reply - 2 years ago
    That Jesus died for our sins. John 3:16 and He is the only way to be saved from sin and He is the only way we become Holy. We still may sin but Jesus has us covered you won't want to sin anymore hope that helps.
  • John kristofich - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 13 - 2 years ago
    The Spirit choses to whom and what spiritual gift or gifts He gives- hope that He gives the gift that is most needed in one's life not sure He gives multiple gifts? Whatever gift He gives He gives to be used to the glory of God I think Jesus said it best when they asked what should one do and He responded to love God with all your heart, soul and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself on this rests all the law and the prophets he emphasized love - He is right - and in John 3:16 for God so loved the world He sent His only begotten son. Agape love - we can't understand fully this love but we r to love one another as Christ loved it was love that the father accepted his wayward son back and celebrated his return but I agree - to have gifts of wisdom , knowledge , ministry , etc wonderful but to truly love wow that is hard to find to have that ability to love your enemy? Love those that persecute you? Those that revile you? That is a mark of a true Christian I feel if there is not an outward pouring of love for God and for fellow man . Gifts don't matter
  • Jealynn - In Reply - 2 years ago
    The Oklahoma City Bombing and 911 were done by muslims, it was also an inside job by masonic obligarchs. muslims families have killed their own family members in America, who have shown signs of leaving islam, or by their own suspicions, even when they do not have any real proof a family member will leave islam. sharia is already being practiced by muslims in the United States, and when they recite the koran they are reciting 350 death chant passages from the koran against Christians and Jews in their mosques, homes, and in public when they speak arabic. I hate the koran for it is diabolically evil. I do not hate muslims, but I hate their sin. The shirners are also muslim.

    When I was at a dollar tree there were two incidents were two muslim women were giving me an evil eye stare. It is crazy how muslims are taught to hate Christians, Jews and other non-muslims.

    It is easy for you to say what you are saying now, but when they cut off your hand and leg as the koran commands them to do to Christians, Jews, and other non-muslims, you may by that time have a different viewpoint. I am not wishing that on you or anyone, just saying. When they kidnap American children and women, and force them into sex slavery, you will wish you would have warned people of the horrors of islam. We have time to educate people about the brainwashing tactics of islam now, while there is this small window of time left. muslims are being brainwashed, and it is very sad. It is not a child's fault, who happens to be raised in islam.

    If a 2 Chronicles 7:14 and John 3:16 does not take place in America, then the anti-Christ followers will take over this nation, and it will be given over to the stranger within our gates. Read Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28. Jesus Christ is our only hope, only He has the power to save this nation from doom and gloom.

    I want America to be a nation's that shines Christ's Light. There are still a remnant of Believers in America who reverence Christ.
  • Names of Jesus A_C - 2 years ago
    Advocate - 1 John 2:1

    Alive for Evermore - Rev 1:18

    All Knowing Psalm 139:1-6

    All, and in All - Colossians 3:11

    Almighty - Revelation 1:8

    Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8

    Altar - Hebrews 13:10

    Altogether Lovely - Song of Solomon 5:16

    Amen - Revelation 3:14

    Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:13 & Daniel 7:22

    Anointed One - 1 Samuel 2:35

    Author of Eternal Salvation - Hebrews 5:9

    Author of our Faith - Hebrews 12:2

    Balm of Gilead - Jeremiah 8:22

    Banner over us - Ps 60:4, S of Sol 2:4

    Bearer of Sin - Hebrews 9:28

    Before All Things - Colossians 1:17

    Beginning and Ending - Revelation 1:8

    Bishop of our Souls - 1 Peter 2:25

    Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15

    Blessed Hope - Titus 2:13

    Bread of Life, my manna - John 6:35

    Bridegroom - John 3:29

    Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16

    Brightness of His Glory - Hebrews 1:3

    Buckler - Psalms 18:30

    Captain - Joshua 5:14-15, Hebrews 2:10

    Changeless One - Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8

    Chief Among 10,000, S. of Solomon 5:10

    Chosen of God - 1 Peter 2:4

    Christ - Matthew 1:16 - 1 John 5:1

    Comforter - John 14:16-18

    Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25

    Counselor - Isaiah 9:6

    Creator - Romans 1:25 - Isaiah 40:28

    Crown of Glory - Isaiah 28:5
  • Daniel - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Jesus never "venerated" Mary above what a typical son would respect his mother. Mary "worship" is not biblical and therefore a sin!
  • Suze - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Thank you Kay , you are very kind and you are certainly a blessing on here . I'm fine thanks , I've been doing quite a lot of helping out for my family so I'm a bit more tired than usual , I read this site every day but haven't had much energy to post . I enjoy your posts a lot thank you and I know that I will be posting in the future when I am not so busy and tired . Much love to you all on here , all your messages are meat and drink to me , especially at this slightly stressful time , thankyou and God bless you all .
  • Kay - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Hey Suze!

    Praise the Lord!

    How are you? I've not seen you in a few days...or...perhaps it's my fault and I missed a post or two...If I did, I'm sorry!

    But for sure..t I try to keep my eye out for you!

    I've made mention of you in my prayers, and hope you and yours are doing well!!

    Blessings!

    -Kay-
  • Suze - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Amen to you Kay .
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thank you for your response, I just found your reply. For some reason it wasn't in my replys. I will check back on this thread again just incase you reply to this.

    I pray deliverance from any and all attacks against you while you're sleeping! Spiritual, natural or both.

    The 1st place I would like to start: Have you received or ask GOD to be LORD of your life? Accepting Jesus Christ as your savior? John 3:15-16,

    With that we are sealed with promise, 2Corinthians 1:20-22, Ephesians 4:30, Ephesians 1:13, James 1:5, Acts 5:32, Romans 15:13, Acts 2:28, 1Corinthian 6:19, John 14:26, Acts 10:38, Mark 16:16-18, 1John 5:9-21,

    * if you have not accepted Jesus as your personal LORD & Savior. Please do that right now, in prayer. 2Corinthians 6:2, 1Thessalonians 5:9, John 14:6,

    Hebrews 1, note Hebrews 1:14, if you have received Jesus Christ as Savior, then the visible/invisible image was it fighting on your behalf?

    * If you have been involved with anything associated with darkness & evil knowingly or others around you or in your dwelling have. Destroy those things, get it away from you. Turn away from those things. Ask forgiveness from our Father in Heaven. Matthew 6:23, Luke 11:34-36,

    * Ephesians 5:11,

    Ephesians 6,

    Hopefully these are helpful.
  • Jealynn - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Mary is not to be worshipped, why are you virgil on a KJV website that promotes a protest against the catholic cult and NOT for it. roman catholicism and any other forms of catholicism that worships mary, angels, the apostles of Christ is completely demonic and is 100 percent idolatry! mary in the Greek means "rebellion." Look her name up in a Bible Concordance. Jesus never commanded His disciples to pray to mary. Jesus instead commanded His disciples to pray to His Father. No idolater will inherit the Kingdom of God, do not let yourself virgil be deceived. God loves you very much, and He desires for you not to be lead astray by man made traditions and doctrines of man. Read 1 Corinthians 6:9-10.
  • Osvaldo Mendez - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Amen Brother We are not perfect but the Lord is perfect.
  • Following Jesus - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    As a true believer, I think you need to keep eyes of faith upon Jesus. What He says in the Bible.

    This is what the Holy Spirit has been ministering to me: Don't Look Backwards Like Lot's Wife.

    Put your precious Faith in what Jesus said about the end times. Rituals will not save us. Faith in what Jesus says, in the Bible (New Testament), will save us.

    Jesus did not walk around in golden robes and a big hat. The Son of God had no place to rest his head. He slept on the ground, like all of his disciples. He bathed in the rivers and the Sea of Galilee. He walked everywhere. He was crucified between two thieves.

    Before He went to the cross, he said: FOLLOW ME.

    There is no other way to get to heaven. Rituals are not the way. There are churches near you. Google their Faith Statement online. Be a part of the fellowship. Ask God to speak to you through the Pastors messages. Meet the other people. Don't rush out the door too fast. Sometimes a lot of cars around the church, means the anointing of the Lord is there. Compare all the sermons with your Bible.

    I hope this helps. Follow Jesus, beloved brother.

    Mishael
  • Kay - In Reply on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Hello Virgil,

    I was born into a religious family, and went to a religious school, both of which taught me heretical doctrine, including worshiping and praying to Mary, to other dead people (which the Bible calls necromancy, and is an occult practice), and many other such superstitions.

    We are not to worship Mary; indeed, she was blessed among women for being the mother of Messiah, but in his earthly ministry, if you read carefully through the gospels, you will NEVER see Jesus elevating Mary the way that she is in certain world, man-made religions.

    We come to the Father through Jesus Christ alone. The Bible is clear. Jesus Christ is the sole Sacrifice, the sole Lamb of God, the ONE Mediator between God and man.

    There is only ONE name given among men whereby we must be saved, and that name is JESUS! HALLELUJAH!

    Grace to you, Virgil.
  • Virgil on John 3 - 2 years ago
    Sir ,

    the feasts and celebrations in may for the blessed virgin mary are going to be enormous as usual - they are even more every year.

    whenever a miracle occurs mother marys deciples say thanks to mother mary and fame to jesus.what does it mean. please explain and also tell me whether your explanation is accepted by most of them that venerate the blessed mother.

    virgil.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 2 years ago
    Page 1.

    I can understand the sense of wrongdoing that you feel Roy, yet also believing (in hope) that all things will be well in the end, inspite of how your life has been going. I began a response to you much earlier, but my comment disappeared; maybe done so by the Lord as your comment to Donna would have changed it.

    Therefore, on that basis, I wonder whether your belief in God, His Son, His Holy Spirit, in forgiveness, & everlasting life is confined to a head knowledge & not involving a heart relationship with the Lord. Please forgive me if that sounds confronting, but I write that in response to what you wrote, "I am not convinced that I know what "LOVE" is in this context...how does the human brain do that?" Maybe Donna will share her own thoughts on your comment, but if I may, I will add my own here.

    Essentially the love you have for your family is similar to the love you should have for God (by the way, I'm not raising the extra-marital propensity that you are 'afflicted' with here) - just, 'what is this love?' In the Bible, we read of different types of Love that can be expressed to another. Without detailing all those here, the Love that you would have towards your family is called 'Agapao' (a Greek word denoting the highest form of expressing love, where these attributes are depicted: self-sacrifice, no conditions made, seeking the best for others even to the neglect of oneself). In the Bible, there are many verses declaring such love by God for us (the familiar John 3:16 being a prime example), & our expression of that same love towards God & also to others.
  • James - In Reply on 2 Thessalonians 2 - 2 years ago
    Robert,

    Matthew 12:40 says " For as Jonas was three days and three nights In the whale's belly so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth"

    That comes to a full 72 hours not 36. Not sure I your math was off accidentally or purposefully.

    For all this business of a person having to know that Christ did do this and all the suffering that he went through is a bit heavy. Yes a person needs to know that Jesus bore his/her sins on the cross, died and was buried, then on the third day he rose conquering death and hell. But the simple fact is that it isn't required to know this.

    John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life"

    Jesus hasn't been to the cross and here he is telling Nicodemus how to be saved...without the knowledge of what Jesus will go through.

    Take Phillip and the eunuch in Acts 8:26-40. Yes the eunuch was reading in Isaiah 53:7 concerning the prophecy of Christ having to endure the suffering and death of the cross but when the eunuch saw water he asked. "See here is water. what doth hinder me to be baptized? and Phillip said, if thou believest with all think heart thou mayest. And he answered and said I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Acts 8:36-37

    Acts 16:23-34 tells of the time Paul and Silas we're in Philippi, arrested and beaten with whips and thrown into prison with the jailer given orders to keep them safely. We learn that en earthquake cames and broke the foundation of the prison, with the doors opened and their bands loosed. The jailer came out and thinking his prisoners escaped was about to kill himself. Paul cries out for him to not do so.

    Bringing us to verse 30, "And brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

    And they said, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved, and they house."

    That's just 2 passages showing the simplicity of salvation.
  • ELB - 2 years ago
    1 JOHN 3:8 He that committeth sin is of THE DEVIL (god of this world)(a god of this AGE) ......

    As long as we are in this body of FLESH we are a god of this world (of this AGE).

    Having our minds RENEWED by the word of God,we come to TRUTH, at the DEATH of this BODY OF FLESH:

    We will be DELIVERED, like a woman giving birth to a child, into a god of THAT WORLD (the next AGE).

    CHILDREN OF SPIRIT.

    GOD IS SPIRIT.

    Matthew 10:39

    Mark 8:35

    God Bless YOU
  • Doug - In Reply on Romans 8 - 2 years ago
    Marke, there are a lot of different directions I can go with this, but, I am going to keep this rather short and simple. If predestination was the intended by God, then that would make Him a "respecter of persons" ( Rom. 2:11), which he is not. Christ came to save the entire world from sin ( John 3:17). Jesus even said what whosoever believes on him would be saved ( John 3:15-16). That is anyone. We also see in the Greek that this believe is present and on-going faith. Not a 1x event that secures the believer and preserves them.

    When God is speaking about foreknowledge and predestination He is not speaking of individual salvation, but, His plan of salvation. For example, in Romans 9 when talking about Jacob and Esau he is not talking about God loving Jacob the person and hating Esau the person. He is talking about the 2 nations, Israel and the Edomites. He knew from the foundation of the world that there would be a fall and mankind would need a Savior, as he is Omniscient.

    So, God does not predestine some to Heaven, while overlooking others so they can go to hell. God hates all sin and wants all to repent and come to His Son for salvation. It is His will that ALL be saved ( 1 Tim. 2:4). However, we must accept receive this gift and allow with Holy Spirit to work in our hearts. remaining faithful is not one trying to "keep themselves saved". It is responding to the gift of the Holy Spirit written on their hearts.
  • Doug - In Reply on Romans 8 - 2 years ago
    You said "Just curious to know if you are faithful to Christ, and if so, what causes you to be faithful?" and the answer is clearly the Holy Spirit. However, we need to look deeper into scripture and what the exact function of the Holy Spirit is and what our obligation is in our relationship with Christ for final salvation.

    Before salvation, the Holy Spirit of God works and draws us to the Father and to accept His Son's sacrifice for salvation. However, we have a free will and can resist this. Since it is the will of the Father that all be saved, but know that many won't because they will reject Christ, we must conclude that there is a free choice on the part of the one who the Holy Spirit is working on and drawing to Christ. We even is in John 3:16 "whosoever believeth" is a reference to anyone. It is not the "elect" as John Calvin taught.

    We see that once one receives the Holy Spirit they must continue believing. We see in John 3:16 that "believeth" is present continual. If salvation was a 1 time event then "believeth" would be in the "Aorist". Yet, every time we see believeth it's in the continuous tense.

    Just as the Holy Spirit draws us to the God, we make the choice to receive it. This is not forced on us. From there, God works in the us to do His will and good pleasure. So, remaining faithful is NOT a "work" but a response to the grace of God working in our hearts. However, scripture is clear that we must endure in faith to receive the inheritance of eternal life. Notice John 10:29 says "they", not "he". This is a blessing for believers as a whole. The individual still has to endure in in the Christ's body.

    John 15 illustrates what I'm talking about. V. 5 says if a man abide not (aorist) he is cut off. It's the exact moment of leaving the protective hand of God ( John 10:29) he is cut off. However the one that abideth (present continual) remains in Christ and in the Father ( 1 Jn 2:24-25).


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