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  • Carleton - 3 years ago
    For meditation:

    One nice part of the view and practice of a present kingdom of heaven on earth by Jesus Christ is the lack of need of believers to be involved in politics where we can keep our non-resistance alive in our hearts for healing purposes while living by the Spirit in truth.

    The nature of the kingdom is peace, while the nature of the world is violence. Both John the Baptist and Jesus preached that the Kingdom of heaven was at hand.

    Outside of this present kingdom, the battle for the soul reigns.

    Matthew 3:1-2

    Matthew 4:17
  • Chris - In Reply on Luke 14 - 3 years ago
    This passage is often used to provoke us to witness but in fact it's a sad declaration to the Jews (& specifically to those around Jesus at meal-time). The message of Luke 14:16-24 was an indictment against the Jews about their rejection of God's Message & Provision of salvation. One said in verse 15, "Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God", believing in the special position that only the Jews enjoyed & to be in God's Kingdom. Jesus then went about to show him that that position was now untenable because of their rejection of the Messiah of God.

    So, in the parable, the invited guests represent the Jewish people. The Kingdom was prepared for them & Jesus came preaching that the Kingdom of Heaven was near ( Matthew 4:17), but they had rejected Him & His Messiahship ( John 1:11). And of course, all types of excuses were given to discount Jesus' claim & works.

    Thus the invitation (of God) went out to those whom the Jews considered as outcasts & unclean (the Gentiles), that we in our miserable state of ignorance of God's Holy Demands, would be given the opportunity to salvation which the Jews despised. As Hosea 2:23 says, "I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God".

    Even as Paul declared in Acts 13:46,47, "It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth." We may not all be missionaries in our calling, or standing on street corners warning every man, but we are called to be witnesses of God's Grace reaching out to those who have never heard. In the most part, we as Christians, have failed to be God's Light & Hope in this dark & desperate world.
  • Bridget Brinson - In Reply on Exodus 15 - 3 years ago
    I have been trying to reply to Michael but get this every time.

    This site can't be reached wwwkingjamesbibleonline.org took too long to respond.

    Try:

    Checking the connection

    Checking the proxy and the firewall

    Running Windows Network Diagnostics

    ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

    I was a Sunday keeper once so I am familiar with all of these excuses.

    To cut to the chase I should ask that I be provided with one bible text that calls Sunday the Sabbath. Just 1.

    Really, it is a matter of one's relationship to Christ. God is so wise he anticipated all of these reasons not to do as he commanded (not suggested).

    John 14:15

    If ye love me, keep my commandments.

    1John 2:3

    And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

    1 John 2:4

    He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    You see the Sabbath is one of the commandments.

    Lots of people call themselves Christian but they do not meet the above criteria. God knew it.

    Matthew7:21-23

    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

    Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name...

    Matthew 4:4

    But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    Does it say by the New Testament only??

    There is safety in sticking to what is written in God's word.

    Truth can bear examination my mother taught me.

    Remember that God is omniscient. We are not smarter than He is.

    Trust God he will not lead you astray. Forget your opinion or my opinion and lean not to your understanding,

    I am busy, in the mean time I will refer you to Amazing Facts by Doug Batchelor where these questions are addressed and TV station 3ABN.

    When I am available I will come back to this discussion but please accept above in the mean time.
  • Chacha Dean - In Reply on Philippians 4 - 3 years ago
    Hey Richard in Christ,

    Thanks for your comment.

    I did not say we should not repent our sins. Of course that's what we as Christians should do on a daily basis, because we see sin everyday and we try everyday not to live according to the works of the flesh by crucifying ourselves daily to the cross. Evidently, in Revelation 2 when Jesus is talking to church of Thyatira, He tells them He knows their works and their patience, charity etc and He tells them to repent OF THEIR DEEDS and those deeds happen to be sins.

    So He tells them to turn from "teaching and seducing His servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols." v.20 and Jesus gave them a chance to turn from fornication to not fornicating but they did not.

    When Jesus told some people, "...sin no more..", He basically is telling them to repent of their sins, because "sin no more" implies that they were "sinning" and so they are to turn from " sinning, to no more sinning"

    The parallel verse to the verse you put - Matthew 4:17- is Mark 1:14-15 and it says, Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel."

    BELIEVE THE GOSPEL
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Philippians 4 - 3 years ago
    Repenting from evil/sin is one of the most important things in the Bible. OT and NT. There is nothing else to repent of.

    Romans 6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

    God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

    Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

    Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

    Christ preaching repent and to sin no more: Matthew 4:17, John 5:14, John 8:11.

    In Revelation Jesus Christ makes it quite clear He's talking about repenting from sin/evil deeds.

    Revelation 2:22-23 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they REPENT OF THEIR DEEDS.

    And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am He which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your WORKS.

    Read the first three chapters of Revelation to see what Christ is saying to the believers in the seven churches. He doesn't say "just because you believe everything is ok".

    True faith in Jesus Christ is more than just believing. Like stated the most evil demonic people can believe in Jesus Christ but live according to the devil.

    Faith without works is dead faith. James 2:26.

    God Bless.
  • Pastor-Ronnie Williams - In Reply on Philippians 4 - 3 years ago
    To:Chacha Dean on Philippians 4

    REPENTANCE NOT NEEDED FOR SALVATION - ONLY BELIEVING

    You can believe what you want to, but here are some more scriptures that you have left out? Matthew 3:2 ( And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.)

    Luke 13:3

    I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

    Matthew 4:17

    From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

    Acts 17:30

    And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

    Revelation 3:19

    As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Acts 3:19

    Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

    There is a lot more! Matthew 5:19 (Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.)
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on John 3:13 - 3 years ago
    Brother Richard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Thank you for looking up the word "torments."

    Matthew 4:24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and TORMENTS, and those that were possessed with devils, and those that were lunatick, and those that had the palsy, AND HE HEALED THEM.

    Luke 16:23 And in hell (grave) he lift up his eyes, being in TORMENTS and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

    Luke 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of TORMENT.

    1 Corinthians 15:55 O death, where is thy sting, O grave (hell), were is thy victory?

    If I am not mistaken; the same Greek word is used in both Luke 16:23 and 1 Corinthians 15:55. Therefore; Christ, at his resurrection, had victory over both; DEATH and the GRAVE (hades) and HELL (hades).

    I BELIEVE that both verse mean the grave. Death and the grave are the wages of sin.

    Since Judah was the only one that had five brothers and the Pharisees claimed to be of the house of Judah. Jesus was telling the Pharisees the first will be last and the last will be first. They WOULD NOT be part of the first resurrection but would have to wait until the second resurrection. They would be in TORMENT(not having drank from the living water); but after the second resurrection they would be healed as described in Matthew 4:24.

    Romans 11:26 And so all Israel SHALL BE SAVED.....
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on John 3:13 - 3 years ago
    I would enjoy doing that for you Earl.

    The Greek word for "torments" in Luke 16:23 is pronounced "basanos". If you type in "Strongs number G931" on google that will bring up links to this Greek word you can look over.

    The definition can be of a "touchstone to test gold or silver". The rest of the definitions are "the rack or instrument of torture by which one is forced to divulge the truth, torture, torment, acute pains, of the pains of a disease, of those in hell after death".

    It seems it is only used three times in the NT. Matthew 4:24, Luke 16:23, Luke 16:28.

    God Bless.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 12:2 - 3 years ago
    Linda, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    I AGREE AND BELIEVE everything Jesse said in his comment to you. I will expand MY BELIEF a little more.

    I BELIEVE that Christ; with the elect, are and will judge the world (Satan's kingdom that Christ took back at HIS resurrection). ( Matthew 4:8-9) ( Revelation 11:15) ( 1 Corinthians 6:2) ( 1 Peter 4:17)

    I BELIEVE the parable of the workers; those called to work in God's vineyard, are the elect. Those called in the first hour are the apostles and others that took part in Pentecost. Since that first hour other workers have been called; till the present hour. Ourselves now being judged by the word of God; by our brothers before us, they being ONE IN CHRIST; have also become THE WORD, the BOOKS. ( Revelation 20:12) ( Revelation 20:4)

    Matthew 19:28

    Romans 11:31-32

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature WAITETH for the MANIFESTATION of the Son of God.

    Romans 8:21 Because the creature ITSELF ALSO shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption unto the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    Revelation 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

    Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me. thou must PROPHECY AGAIN before many peoples, and nations,and tongues,and kings.

    I BELIEVE at the departure of this body we will be given THE FULLNESS OF GOD; which also will be HIS BODY, OMNIPRESENT able to judge others as he now judges us.
  • Richard Duff - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 15:5 - 3 years ago
    Hello again, Chris,

    Thank you for the response! Before yesterday I had never even discovered this website-format, much less written in it. I found it in Internet-looking up the KJV for purposes in helping another person in pulling it up on-line if they did not have a KJV, so as to try to show them things that would lead them to that Wonderful Saving Knowledge of our Blessed Savior, Almighty God Jesus Christ!...and here we are!

    Please tell me a little about yourself, and your relationship with Jesus Christ and your interest in studying His Bible! What are some of your favorite Scriptures?!

    I am 68 and received Christ when age 17, growing up in Miami, Florida. I came out of a quite strong and dedicated Catholic background - Catholic schooling and being an "altar boy", and "knowing" Catholicism was the "only true religion" - when someone in my junior year of high school, now in a public school, showed me Ephesians 2:8&9, John 1:12, and II Corinthians 5:17. Catholics never teach, recommend, or at all emphasize individual Bible learning, and being able to buy my own copy and read it was revolutionary to me! They emphasize Catholicism-only, what the priest says, completely missing and denying the need for what God says in the last clause of Deuteronomy 8:3 and the related Matthew 4:4 and Luke 4:4.

    Big to me also then quickly became Isaiah 26:3, Psalm 119:11, and Romans 12:1&2. That Glorious Grace Salvation of Ephesians 2:8&9 I immediately saw completely destroyed Catholicism's evil doctrine of works-salvation, and that Truth greatly spoke to me. Seeing that and all these beginning Truths in my life greatly blessed and thrilled my heart and understanding! Another few of my favorite Scriptures in and of life have become III John 2 & 4, Jeremiah 15:16, and Psalms 94:19, 103:3&4 & 111:2 which says, "The works of The Lord are great, sought out of all that have pleasure therein"!!

    Best regards, which is always Jesus Christ Himself! Richard.
  • Lynn on Matthew 4 - 3 years ago
    Is The covertshot the mark of the Beast The devil
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 4 - 3 years ago
    William, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    You say that it's up to you to choose, by the free will he has given you; is it really your choice or His choice.

    Scripture says that ALL is HIS WORKS. Do you believe this.

    John 15:16 You have not chosen me; but I have chosen you.

    1 Corinthians 4:7 For who maketh thee to differ from another? And what hast thou that thou DID NOT RECEIVE? Now if thou didst receive it, why doest thou glory, as if thou hast not received it.

    1 Peter 1:21 Who (you) by him (Holy Spirit, Christ in you) do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory, that YOUR FAITH (the FAITH OF CHRIST) and hope might be in God.

    Galatians 2:16 KNOWING that a man is not justified by the works of the law (the works of man's hands), but by THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have believed (BY HIM) in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, and not by the works of the law (the works of man's hands): for by the works of the law (the works of man's hands) shall no flesh be justified.

    Philippians 1:9 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only to BELIEVE on him; but also to suffer for his sake.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD THAT WORKETH IN YOU both to WILL and do of his good pleasure.

    Ephesians 1:11 In whom (in Christ) also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to THE PURPOSE OF HIM who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the council of HIS WILL:

    (vs 12) That we should be to the praise of his glory, who (by HIM) first trusted in Christ.

    He is not calling everyone right now; only those that have been chosen to rule and judge the nations with him.

    Psalms 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings, ye judges of the earth.

    Isaiah 1:26 I will restore thy judges as at the first......

    Obadiah 21 And saviours shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau (sold their birthright for things of the flesh); and the kingdom shall be the LORD'S.
  • William H Hesford - In Reply on Matthew 4 - 3 years ago
    When God created the heaven and the earth, He gave the angels the right to choose good and evil, that is Gods love . Gods love is you have the right to choose who you want to follow. Deuteronomy 30;15 " I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil" and in 30:19 It is repeated " I call heaven and earth this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessings and cursing; therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live." when God created lucifer iniquity was found in him ( Ezekiel 28:15 ) and he wanted to be like God . When God formed Adam out of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life , He became the first living soul , the other created man were not given a living soul, yes they were physically alive but spiritually dead, like anyone today if they have not been born again. Adam did not know evil until they partaken of the tree of good and evil.
  • Clarence on Matthew 4 - 3 years ago
    Yes l do.. And my question is why did God use the word good /evil when he spoke to our first parents.. Do remember this is before they sinned.. Please elaborate..

    Thankyou..
  • Aurelio P Sator Jr on Matthew 4 - 3 years ago
    For, me what happened to Jesus Christ on this chapter also happened to many Christian, we are all tempted by the enemy, specially if you are really a follower of Christ. The enemy will show lots of worldly things like , power, money, popularity, etc. But Jesus shows courage even though He is hungry, He is ready to fight the evil using the word of God. If you cam see, the devil is using word of God as well to trick you but Jesus is ready for every trick that evil said.

    At the end, Jesus is victorious.

    thank you.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Psalms 138 - 3 years ago
    Darren, may the spirit grace you with his wisdom and his knowledge.

    no part of revelation is going to occur in the physical sense.

    revelation is spiritual warfare for the kingdom of heaven.

    revelation is completely symbolic.

    isaiah 9:5 now every (natural) battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this (spiritual battle) shall be with burning and fuel of fire.

    isaiah 9:19 ....and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire....

    isaiah 4:4 when the lord (a consuming fire hebrews 12:29) shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of (new) zion, and shall have purged the blood of (new) jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgement and the spirit of burning.

    luke 12:49 i am come to send fire on the earth; and what be i (the fire), if it (the fire) be kindled already?

    matthew 4:11 ....he shall baptize you with the holy spirit and with fire;

    isaiah 9:18 for wickedness burneth as the fire (our god is a consuming fire).....

    isaiah 10:16 .... and under his glory (us) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.

    isaiah 24:15 wherefore glorify ye the lord in the fires ....

    isaiah 31:9 ....whose fire is in (new) zion, and his furnace in (new) jerusalem.

    isaiah 33:14 .....who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burning?

    where the fire is never quenched (our god is a consuming fire)

    isaiah 42:25 therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle; and it (the battle) hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it (the battle) burned him, and he laid it not to heart.

    ezekiel 5:2 thou shall burn with fire a third part in the midst of the (new jerusalem, christ in you).....

    zachariah 13:9 and i will bring the third part through the fire ....

    revelation 8:1-13

    revelation 9:18 by these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire...brimstone...smoke....

    hebrews 9:27

    1 peter 4:17
  • Sally on Matthew 4:4 - 4 years ago
    Matthew 4:4

    "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    Titus 3:2

    Parallel Verses

    King James Version

    To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.

    don't think negative of yourself.
  • Darren Croft - In Reply on Matthew 4:7 - 4 years ago
    Likewise. I especially love the prophets, but no one on this platform discusses the Bibles most prolific seers of the Old Testament. They give me goose bumps, their individual takes on the same events. I like the New Testament too, cause I'm a whole man, not just a half. Best of luck to you in these end times.
  • Tony Colliluori - In Reply on Matthew 4:7 - 4 years ago
    From what I have read of your response, I believe we are of the same mind Brother! It is refreshing and rejuvenating to hear that I am not alone. Peace be with you friend!
  • Darren Croft - In Reply on Matthew 4:7 - 4 years ago
    The last 2 trumpets are indirectly attributed to Jesus; they couple punishment with extreme violence. Of course the people on earth will be playing the attacks out to its desired outcome. Jesus in the flesh was void of sin, but trumpeted Jesus takes care of business.

    1) There is the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord (named for Jesus), is punishment on a vile world from the Almighty. A day responsible for 1/3rd of humanities demise. Revelation 15: Jesus says "Behold, I come as a thief".......to lay the land desolate.

    Those that dwell in heaven despise Mystery Babylon and Babylon proper to death. Joel gives a spectacular account of the missile strike on Babylon (America) Joel 2: 1-11, while on the other side of the world, in the self-same hour, Israel is invaded by the beast army and taken, Luke 21:20-24. Hell from beneath will rise up to greet Babylon at its departure, Isaiah 14:9 The current system will be torn down, and will be replaced with hell on earth.

    2) Then there is the 7th trumpet slaughter featuring a transfigured Jesus, with a new name only He knows, Revelation 19:12, who defeats anti-christ's fractured beast army. It is Jesus returning with His army of resurrected saints to take possession of the earth. Revelation 14:20 The blood will be up to the horses bridle (in the valley).

    In both trumpets, it is Jesus doling out judgment on an evil world, and in His Godly capacity. America and Israel have been poisoned by satan, enough so for God to commence and fulfill all the words of his servants, the prophets.
  • Tony Colliluori - In Reply on Matthew 4:7 - 4 years ago
    Thank you Richard!
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Matthew 4:7 - 4 years ago
    Amen!
  • Tony Colliluori - In Reply on Matthew 4:7 - 4 years ago
    Brothers Jesse and Bob, I believe you are wrong concerning this matter. Here's why.

    1. Jesus supersedes anything from the Old Testament.

    2. Jesus in Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. What else does Chapter 22 say concerning purchasing a sword? Luke 22:8 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough. Who goes to war with 2 swords? No, the purpose of buying the swords was to fulfill Mark 14:47 = And one of them that stood by drew a sword, and smote a servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear. And Luke 22:49-51 = When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword? And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear. And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him. They needed the two swords to fulfill the other verses.

    3. I'd also like to point out Matthew 26:52 = Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.

    The time is quickly coming where this is going to be a serious issue for Christians. You will be asked to decide between your faith and the death of your family. You must choose your faith. Jesus even said so - Matthew 10:37 =

    He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. This is where the road narrows and many Christians will fail because they are unprepared.

    Revelation 13:10 ... he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword ...

    Perhaps someone can tell me when Jesus advocated violence. Except for the money changers in the temple, you can't. You can't because it never happened. You see, Jesus was a pacifist.
  • Recilda E Brown - In Reply on Galatians 3 - 4 years ago
    Thank you, for your comment also, but there are many churches who use the King James version of the Bible that very much so believe Jesus Christ is alive. The word of God applies to all who will believe and follow him. My personal testimony Jesus led me to Matthew 4:19 prior to getting the baptism of his Holy Spirit and then led me back to the scripture again after filling me with His Spirit to confirm what he called me to do. Again, we as the church can take God's word out of context and misconstrue to our own meaning. If we are honest with ourselves, we have all done it.

    We can agree to disagree in love....
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Hebrews 1 - 4 years ago
    Paul, you made a comment stating: that in the gospel of Matthew they were still under the old testament because Christ had not yet gone to the cross.

    Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN suffereth violence, and the violent shall take it by force. (Jesus suffered the violence)

    Matthew 11:13 For all the prophets (old testament) and the law (old testament) prophesied UNTIL John.

    Hebrews 1-2 .......Hath in these last days spoken by his Son....

    Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of THE KINGDOM ....

    Luke 10:9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NIGH UNTO YOU.

    JESUS IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN

    John 17:21 That they ALL may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in ME, and I in THEE, that they also may be ONE in US......

    Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ORDINANCES; for to make in HIMSELF of TWAIN ONE NEW MAN, so making peace.

    1 Timothy 6:16 Who only hath immortality (LIFE) dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto, whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power, everlasting. Amen.

    There were those that BELIEVED before Christ died on the cross they just didn't receive the Holy Spirit until pentecost.

    We all read over thing in the scriptures or have been taught by others that have read over things in the scriptures. We all learn from each other; but always being taught by the SPIRIT.

    The Spirits wisdom and understanding be on you.
  • Richmond Reid on Matthew 4 - 4 years ago
    Can you send if possible scriptures for me to study and seek corresponding references.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 4 - 4 years ago
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    Thank you for your comments Steven, on this important subject. If I may add some thoughts here:

    a. "They don't view the ten commandments as our schoolmaster to show us our short comings, and a need for a savior but rather they're instructions to salvation". Indeed, some do look at salvation in this way, but I think generally, Christians who have been taught properly, don't see that obedience to the Commandments are necessary for salvation, rather, that after being saved, they revert back to it, or fuse it with saving faith, believing God requires to almost use it like a checklist to be on track & to please Him. See how much of an issue Sabbath-keeping is with some. But as you indicated, all that does is bring us back into bondage to the Law.

    b. "Did Jesus struggle to resist sin as we do?" This may be difficult to answer but I rather believe that at his temptation with Satan ( Matthew 4:1-11) & very likely throughout His earthly ministry, Satan would have continued to come at Him: and this was to force sin upon Him so a sin nature may be born in Him. I say this, as we see that the first Adam was born without a sin nature, but he failed to resist Satan, & he inherited a nature given to sin & death eventually followed. So when we read that "as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" ( Romans 5:12), the fact we too die is proof of the sin nature being transmitted, rather than the import of any specific sins of Adam.

    c. "we were transgressors before the commandments, and when the commandments came we died because we became sin." I tend to make a clear demarcation between those given the Law & those who haven't received it. Certainly, we are privileged to have the Bible so we can learn more fully of God's requirements, but if we're not Jews, how are the Laws, then & now, applicable to Gentiles?
  • Marshs - In Reply on Matthew 4:7 - 4 years ago
    repentments from sins is a christian that make amisteak while growup from a babye uin the lord and pentsment is a sinner a person not save
  • Demetrice A Sellers on Matthew 4:7 - 4 years ago
    God is not slack concerning, his promises. God meant what he say. God made Male and female in the beginning. If a man leave his father house, he should cleave to his wife for life. God is not the author of confusion. God made us male and female. GOD made the man first, then he took a rib out of man and made woman. I'm a single woman. I will marry a man, or I will not marry
  • Chris - In Reply on Deuteronomy 18 - 4 years ago
    That's a great question Danae. It is one that has brought on many discussions & ideas over the years.

    My belief is this: you're right that Mary & Joseph were ordinary human beings, though of course special as they were selected by God to bring forth His Son into the World. And in their humanity, they, like us, were born with a sin nature passed onto us from our first parents. And they would have sinned as well, though some would teach that they (specifically Mary) did not, since they were in every respect human as we are.

    So why wouldn't baby Jesus also receive a sin nature like all of us? I see it this way: neither Mary or Joseph contributed to the conception of the babe. That is, Joseph certainly wasn't the father & Mary did not contribute her ovum to this conception. The Bible says in Luke 1:35, "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."

    I understand this verse to say that God, by His Spirit overshadowed Mary & placed this Holy Seed (one entirely from God without human intervention) into Mary's womb. So this Seed had not the nature that is passed down through mankind - it is a pure & Holy Seed. So couldn't God just zap Jesus onto the Earth & avoid all this human involvement? Well, the Scriptures speak of this Holy One coming, Who would be the Messiah, born in humanity ( 2 Samuel 7:12,13; Isaiah 7:14; Micah 5:2), so Jesus was born in fulfilment of all Scriptures, even the Sacrifices which spoke about His redemptive work. Yet, Jesus' Birth was without a sin nature so that He could ultimately be the Perfect Spotless Sacrifice for mankind. So Jesus was tempted of Satan ( Matthew 4:1-11), not to commit sin since He had no sin nature, but Satan wanted to cause the sin nature to be a part of Jesus, just as he did to Adam & Eve. But Jesus resisted this attempt & remained pure ( Hebrews 4:15).


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