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Joe Ann, I just came to your question when I was browsing comments. KJV sometimes have two or more verses making up one complete sentence. Here verses 1 and 2 are one sentence. Paul is telling Philippian church people that if they have charity ( 1Cor 13:13) so to speak in verse 1, then they make him happy and he elaborates those characters for them to have, that make him happy in verse 2 like likeminded, same love, one accord, and one mind.

"Fulfill ye my joy" is emphatic. Normally you would say, Ye fulfill my joy if or that.... Remember Isa 40:1, Comfort ye, comfort ye my people....? Isaiah repeated 'Comfort ye' for emphasis also. The more you read KJV, the more you will love its beautiful language. I heard that Shakespeare was influenced by KJV language. By the way, ye is plural of a single person you. I'm sure you knew about it.

What does it mean to fulfill his joy can you explain the whole verse

Greetings, Sheila, on The Lord's Day!

In these times, there seem to be more and more who question the existence of God and even the historicity of Jesus. Most people haven't given much thought to these things and simply parrot slogans they've hears on youtube.

1 Peter 3:15. Be ready to give an answer for WHAT you believe WHY you believe it. This takes effort, study, time. There are no easy answers. Simply saying that "the Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it!" is not enough. In Acts, Paul REASONS with people.

Now you and I are not Paul but we can begin to get equipped. This may seem like a daunting task to most people but it is possible. First pray for wisdom and understanding. Study, study, study. 2 Timothy 2:15. Learn to ask questions of the people who make these false assertions. Greg Koukl is a wonderful, godly apologist who wrote a book named Tactics, 10th Anniversary Edition: A Game Plan for Discussing Your Christian Convictions. Another great apologist is Frank Turek who wrote I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist.

The former is a book about how to maneuver in a conversation about Christian beliefs, while the latter book contains apologetic information you might use to defend and give reasons for your convictions.

There are words that I would stay away from, because most people have been socialized to think of them wrongly. For instance "faith" is often misrepresented as "believing stuff the ain't true." In our society, people believe that there is a difference between faith and actual truth. I use "active trust" or "warranted trust." It's often helpful to use illustrations to clarify these warped views.

"No God? How do you think this all began?" This might be a question you ask. But they are not open to "In the beginning God created..." You can quote it, but that's not gonna be enough in most cases. Check out the Kalam Cosmological Argument made popular by William Lane Craig.

There are volumes left unsaid for lack of space and knowledge.

Tell them if they right what reward is there, but if ur right Jesus going to welcome you or them into heaven.

what do you tell a person who doesn't believe in God. that say there is no Jesus .

I'm not sure any amount of Scripture searching or study will help you to be more of what you're aiming for, though I do think of 1 Corinthians 10:24, "Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth." In other words, to seek another's welfare & esteem before yourself.

I feel that you already understand where you are falling short & where you'd like to be, so it's really a matter of just getting on & doing it, allowing God's Spirit to lead you & equip you. If for your problem of selfish desires, then seek opportunities to help someone else or give for another's needs: both you & them will be blessed for this act of Christian love.

Ambition is not necessarily a bad thing, but if you're wanting to elevate yourself or trample over others to achieve your goal, then give others the opportunity to get there first (maybe by first discussing it with them) & if they decline, then go ahead; in this way, you won't feel that you're forcing yourself to go higher.

Getting involved in some Church ministry: with kids, youth, church camps, sharing in Bible studies, will also help in placing yourself in a 'servant' category, rather than one to be served (see Matthew 20:25-28; Philippians 2:2-8: examples of the Servant-hood of Christ & of his children).

Any involvement with your Church Fellowship will foster opportunities to serve others & gradually allow the Spirit to give you that spirit of being a true servant of the Lord to others & not to keep yourself in your focus.

Am really encourage by the verse

Matthew 10:32

Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

Luke 12:8

Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:

Romans 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 John 4:15

Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

John 12:42

Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

Romans 14:11

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

Philippians 2:11

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

2 John 1:7

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 3:5

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Romans 15:9

And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.

John 9:22

These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue.

1 John 1:9

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Rick, I believe that the early Church had elevated Jesus Christ to the "level of God". We might not see it in their writings as the Bible doesn't reveal what the Church actually preached to Christians, but shows us what the apostles taught them or on what issues they were taken to task over. So assuming that what the apostles believed & taught through their epistles, we have many Scriptures that confirm that the Godhead includes Jesus His Son.

Some of them are: 1 Corinthians 8:6; Colossians 1:15-17; Colossians 2:9; 1 John 5:7; Philippians 2:5-8.

But if you're referring to the early Church after the close of the apostolic era, then I can send you some quotes from the likes of Ignatius, Polycarp, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, etc. So this teaching on the Trinity is not something recent as we are led to believe or from the RCC, but the firm belief of the apostles, of the apostolic Church & the Church in the 3rd Century onwards. You may believe that Jesus was perfect in every way securing our salvation through a perfect Sacrifice, but if He wasn't God in the flesh, then our salvation remains on shaky ground: it had to be God Who gave up His Life for us in demonstration of that pure Divine Love - the provision of any other 'perfect Sacrifice', whether human or animal by God is no demonstration of Divine Love - only of a Divine Provision which could necessitate the need for further sacrifices (as was done in the OT). Jesus was the one & only Sacrifice that could fix man's inherent problem - if He failed, there would remain no other sacrifice available for God to give us.

Since scripture can't contradict itself and as originally Given doesn't. God's Word says God is light and in Him is no darkness at all therefore the true God did not create the devil he became evil when walking away from God who is Light. Now that being said in the old testament because of the written law many things that occurred supernatural was written down that God did it when in reality God being as we know all mighty allowed the enemy to work to accomplish what he eventually had planned, to me that's the incredible wisdom and power of God. When man decides to disobey or disbelieve God's word God cannot do anything because he does not manipulate or play with freedom of will. On the other hand you give God an inch he'll hand you a mile if the inch is according to it is written. There are only two spiritual powers were dealing with The God and Father of Jesus Christ or the adversary of all mankind the devil. Something to think about the term devil to the best of my knowledge was not used until the new testament theirs a reason for everything God wrote when where how why and to whom, and it's important to understand that also there is eastern thought in God's word that if it's not understood doesn't make any sense to the western mind I believe you and I are mostly on the same page bro.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

The anti==Christ has made himself into an image of Light! He wishes to control all things, but if you watch closely, you will see that God is the one who has the final say in all things! Christ has determined what can live in the heart of Man. The Anti -Christ wishes He could take the heart and soul of a man! As long as the spirit of Christ lives, the anti Christ days are already determined! He shall never succeed! Christ is KING! watch AND pray!

Fred Adam and eve were not innocent they both believed and acted on the serpent lie. and spiritually lost their connection with God also all the authority that Adam had was handed over to Satan Read luke 4:5-7 it's says it was handed to him that's how cataclysmic the fall of Genisis was which is why The Devil is called God of this world. God by his only begotten son not only delivered us from the power of darkness but also spiritually now we are in the body of Christ i.e. Saints eventually to be going to our Father who delivered us in perfect bodies for all eternity.

Hey Rod its Rick thanks didn't want to get into all that guess I should have for clarification.

Alex, here is John 14:16. The comforter in Hebrew. different name and different definition that 2 Samuel 12:24. Greek:

Transliteration: parakltos

Pronunciation: par-ak'-lay-tos

Definition: An intercessor consoler: - advocate comforter.

KJV Usage: comforter(4x), advocate(1x).

Occurs: 5

In verses: 5

Isaiah 14:12

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

(12) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!-The word for Lucifer is, literally, the shining one, the planet Venus, the morning star, the son of the dawn, as the symbol of the Babylonian power, which was so closely identified with astrolatry. "Lucifer" etymologically gives the same meaning, and is used by Latin poets (Tibull. i., 10, 62) for Venus, as an equivalent for the phsphoros of the Greeks. The use of the word, however, in medival Latin as a name of Satan, whose fall was supposed to be shadowed forth in this and the following verse, makes its selection here singularly unfortunate. Few English readers realise the fact that it is the king of Babylon, and not the devil, who is addressed as Lucifer. While this has been the history of the Latin word, its Greek and English equivalents have risen to a higher place, and the "morning star" has become a name of the Christ ( Revelation 22:16).

Rick,

Just curious! Where in the Bible does it say that lucifer is Satan? As you mentioned in your latest post.

Thank you,

Andrew

Revelations 12 I believe confirms what Rick is saying, I hope this helps

Isaiah 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nation

Revelation Chapter 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Because the word of god said He was before he changed.

Suzanne, May the Spirit grace you with his understanding of his words:

Do Gods creatures have FREE WILL; or, are we the WORKS of the creator?

Ephesians 1:11 In whom (Spirit) also we have obtained (by grace) an inheritance (children), being predestinated (you have not chosen me, but I have chosen you. John 15:16) according to the purpose of him (Spirit) who WORKETH all things after the counsel of HIS OWN WILL:

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Spirit) which WORKETH in you both to WILL and to DO of his good pleasure.



Colossians 1:29 Whereunto, I (Paul) also labour, striving according to his (Spirit) WORKING, which WORKETH in me mightily.

Isaiah 26:12 Lord, thou (Spirit) wilt ordain peace for us: for thou (Spirit) also hast wrought (WORKED) all our WORKS in us.

Isaiah 44:26 ......that PERFORMETH the counsel of his (Spirit) messengers....

Psalm 57:2 I will cry unto God most high that PERFORMETH all things for me.

Proverbs 16: 33 The lot is cast into the lap (we were predestined); but the whole disposing (WORK) thereof is of the Lord (Spirit)

Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord (Spirit), as the rivers of water: he (Spirit) TURNETH it (man's heart) whithersoever he (Spirit) WILL.

Job 12:9 Who (man) knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord (Spirit) hath wrought (WORKED) this?

Job 23:14 For he (Spirit) PERFORMETH the things that is appointed (predestined) for me....

Job 23:10 But he (Spirit) knoweth the way that I take: when he (Spirit) has tried me, I shall come forth as pure gold.

Hebrews 4:3 For we which believed do enter into rest.....the WORKS (we are the works of the Spirit) were finished before the foundation of the world.

Hebrews 4:11 Let us (works of the Spirit) labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of UNBELIEF.

May the Spirit grace you with his wisdom.

The name Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible ( Isaiah 14:12). And if the time is take to examine and study this entire chapter one would discover that the context that this reference is made in regard to the King of Babylon.

The different names in Gods word for the devil or satan or the detroyer or the tempter or the serpent and their are others, lucifer at one time was Gods right hand angel and decided usurp Gods authority but these are all descriptions of his different functions, ie father of lies, angel of light. Keep in mind not all angels are good, the meaning of angel is messenger so in regards to that the source must be determined.

I have always thought the same thing and I would also like a answer. Thanks!

Hello my brother Adam,

I guess I just wanted to write you my opinion. As you have your beliefs on this and that's fine of coarse. I believe animals do have a soul but not a spirit as Ricky stated. If animals didn't have souls they would be like robots with no personalities. As of coarse something like a fish is so small and simple you really can't tell one from another. Although as with dogs, cats, birds, horses, etc you can very much tell that there is differences in personalities one to another. They are alive naturally from God. They see, hear, smell, eat, drink, and make decisions.

God Bless you my brothers and sisters.

Adam I'm not here to agree or disagree with what people think but what the word says living creatures breath oxygen which is breath life which has nothing to do with spiritual life man was a 3 part being originally. Gen. 1:27 spirit and Gen. 2:7 body and soul.

Food for thought many times in Gods Word man is described like beast of the field I.E. Goats because like stubborn animals He chooses not to follow God and acts like an animal. I.E. survival instincts which is not believing for God to supply his need.

After Adam and Eve, disobeyed the word . Because of their innocence ,an animal had to die for the sole purpose of clothing these two, and of course those who would follow. This was because of their disobedience! We know God is love, and he loved his animals. They are his creation! So then comes the institution of animal sacrifice, that they may remember their sin, while receiving reconciliation , once again killing that which God made! Many would wonder how and why this way! Killing a beast could not be easy, when done accordingly. The judgment upon man, the process is nothing more than temporary, until the next sacrifice! That is why it could never take away sins! Only Christ could that! Many think we are good! Many think we do not need a savior! I would suggest to those great minds, do you not remember Cain and Abel? There is nothing good in man, his natural state is evil even from his youth. You can deny the truth, and you may in the end be judged according to the law. Or you can walk in this life forgiven through his OWN shed blood receiving eternal life.

Hello, you wrote "Yes animals have a soul." Most people don't agree with that, whether a Bible believer or not.

ps never said animals had or have spirit so chill pill

Why such an attitude as a Christian I never said God sent His son to deliver animals by the way in your line of thought the spirit is soul and the soul is spirit not possible. The spirit when we are born again is given by God we are not born with it which is why God's word says we are born dead in trespasses and sins without God and without hope. When you for the body from dust thou are and to dust thou a shalt return also the spirit we were given God's back to God who have it by the way when Chrsit was on the Cross he says to God into your hands O commend my spirit then he took his last breath and died. Three days later he was raised from the dead body did not corrupt. What does that have to do with animals!

An animal will not make a choice, even after they are taught they have one!