I like you was sincere, etc, but I was sincerely wrong, oh how I struggled, the veil always separated me from my Beloved, there was no pure unity of the faith & oneness that Christ prayed for, my conscience bearing witness against me, no matter how I cried, repented, fasted, prayed or studies the letter, & walk accordingly, yet, the veil was still hung between us & why? 2Cor 3:6 I remember it quiet well, a yoyo of an experience.
1 Cor 15:34,45 true knowledge is given by the true Grace of God who appears bringing salvation to all mankind.
Ronald, have you ever had an unction that cross your own will, telling you not to do or say something & show you what to do or to say? & if not heeded to, condemn you for it? Or maybe you were in a tryst state, & say or did something & later Holy Spirit/ Grace convicted you of wrong? This is the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus, Grace/Light/Anointing we have received & appears within us, & if minded & exercised is the daily Cross & is not a lie, abide in Him & in the steadfast confidence continual exercising of it, will eventually set us free from the law of sin & death. Received by Luke 10:42Psalms 130:5"the word of His Grace, who words are Spirit & Life" Psalms 145:12-18Psalms 123:2Psalms 62:5 meaning silencing all thoughts & imaginations & in stillness of soul, wait. Psalms 46:10 and He will appear Hebrews 9:28 . Believing that it is He appearing to you is faith, hearing the Word of God in the heart, that Paul preached & this faith purifies the heart & gives victory over the world.
2Cor 3:16-18 this stillness & waiting upon the Lord is turning to Him, who is Spirit, whom takes the veil away & gives us knowledge of Himself, 2Cor 4:6,7 setting us free from the bondage of sin, we know the Truth & the Truth set us free & transforms us into His Image. Light begets light, in whom there is no darkness at all.
causing you Philippians 2:13Hebrews 13:21 "obviously this is not sinning".
I mention; I Didn't advocate studying the Scriptures by carnal means, by the arts of natural science as you would for a vocation.
Doing this feeds the natural part in man, with a knowledge apart from the Life of God, nor can such knowledge give us the life of God, for how can it? The flaming swords which guards the Tree of Life only gives way to those who are led by the Spirit. 2Cor 3:6; The letter in any dispensation kills, giving him a form of godliness without the power to be truly godly. It a false form, promotes self righteousness, one doesn't come to 1John 1:1 in a personal encounter with the living God in Spirit, who would lead him to take up the cross, teach him to deny, mortify & crucify spiritual old man of sin, by the operation of the Spirit to the rebirth & renewing of the mind. Instead; it offers a fake cross that flesh carnal mind can easily carry & bare It doesn't separates him from 1John 2:16, but leaves him one in it. It takes away our dependence from God, Psalms 123:2; that God maybe all in all, for He alone is the blessedness of the creature.
I'm speaking not from hearsay, but from 27 yrs of personal experience, than in 2010 while in ministry school, God extended His outstretch Arm, encountering me again & slowly began opening the eyes of my heart, as I was able to bear it, to what I've been speaking of here, leading me to quit school & Luke 9:23
He doesn't cause everyone to believe at the same time.
Paul didn't believe until God caused him to believe.
Everything has an APPOINTED TIME; it the works of God, his timetable.
He chose Jacob; and not Esau, before they were ever conceived.
Hebrews 11:20 By faith (by the spirit of Christ) Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau, concerning THINGS TO COME.
Jacob; the last, was given dominion over the first.
Genesis 27:37
The first born of flesh is not always the first born of spirit.
Matthew 19:30 ... The first shall be last and the last first ....
After the second resurrection, when Esau stands in his former estate, his flesh, he will be caused to believe and the yoke will be broken from his neck.
Genesis 27:40
All things were maded new by Christ resurrection, but all things have an appoint time to come to TRUTH.
Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter POWER over the clay, of the same lump, to make one a vessel of HONOUR, and the other a vessel of DISHONOUR?
Daniel 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the world are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, and NONE can stay his hand, or say unto him, what doest thou?
Jeremiah 18:4 And the vessel he made of clay was MARRED in the potter's hand, so he MADE it again ....
Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit (when he chooses to do so), they are CREATED and thou renewest the face of the earth.
Ecclesiastes 3:1 To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven
Psalms 123:2 ...so our eyes wait upon the lord, UNTIL he have mercy upon us ....
NOT YET are ALL THINGS put under him; BUT, when they are, God will be ALL IN ALL.
Psalm 51 was written by King David after Nathan the prophet confronted him about having Bathsheba's husband put on the front lines in war. He was killed.
David married Bathsheba. Nathan also told him that his and Bathsheba's first born child would die. The baby died. David repented in ashes; got up and washed, ate a meal and comforted Bathsheba. His servants thought that he was terrible: Acting like the whole thing was normal.
David had poured out his heart hoping God would change His mind. ( l am the Lord and I change Not)
David tried. He knew it was his sin, totally.
He had children problems the rest of his life. He died before Solomons reign started. He didn't know his son would have hundreds of wives and concubines. Make treaties with nations God forbid, worship their idols.
The site now has an Exhaustive Concordance, along with other translation comparison. Also the 1611 KJV. Several times I've looked at a deeper meaning or clearer understanding & the 1611 KJV was really helpful.
To use the Concordance, you can tap verse. New page opens. Bottom of page the words can be individually researched from the original text used for these translated versions on this site.
Interestingly & worth noting : occasionally I have found the surrounding words sometimes are a better key to my understanding than the single word, that I found perplexing.
When I read this psalm in the KJV and NKJV, Wycliffe's Bible and RV1885 versions. I can't help but to interpret it in a totally opposite way to all the classic commentaries and indeed the more modern translations and their commentators.
The key difference in my mind arises from use of the archaic versions' words "filled with contempt" as opposed to the more contemporary versions' "endured no end of contempt".
I understand this psalm (ie the KJV version) to be similar to Ps:51 a cry for mercy by a sinner.
In that, the psalmist feels conviction of their collective contemptuous attitude which is both like the contempt of those who live at ease (the rich?) and also the contempt that the proud have for others.
I looked at the Hebrew and it's frustratingly unclear because of the Yoda style grammar.
I think the use of the word "mercy" is also really shaping my opinion because words like "salvation", "deliverance", "rescue", "save", "protection", "justice", "defence" are most generally used when the Psalmist is feeling oppressed and is seeking relief. "Mercy" feels more in line with repentance or confession.
The most recent comments are confirmation what spirit you are of and the spirt you serve ( Luke 9:55; John 8:34).
There are not too many songs being heard in Eastern Canada, similar to California, but for different reasons. People that make their livelihood of the leading industries have their food basket slowly taken away. China has closed the borders to most products (e.g. lobster) and farmers have little to harvest as a result of the severe drought. The rural communities have been dying for the last ten years and the list of businesses that are closing is staggering. It is clear by your comments that you do not know what 'sin' is. It is not an act as you have been made to believe, but rather the 'fruit of the natural man' and is the very reason we urge you to repent. It means to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
Hospitals are a 'stronghold' ( 2 Cor. 10:4) of Satan's divided kingdom and his world ( Matthew 12:26; Luke 4:6; 11:18; John 12:31; 14:30; 2 Cor. 4:4; Eph. 2:2; 6:12; 1John 3:8) and the love you speak of is the love of the world and we know that you have not the love of God in you ( John 5:42).
So our message will remain the same: ye must repent.
The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17).
Prayers for my sons to find spouses of God-s choice. Blocking satans attempts at sending the wrong ladys. Also for my new spouse to show up sent by God for me too. Thankyou for praying
MB, your faith in God to help you with the situation with your Grandchild is an inspiration. Please know you are not alone in your prayers. God's love and mercy will protect your Grandchild. You have asked, so therefore you will receive. God Bless.
If anyone wants their prayers to be HEARD ANSWERED DELIVERED One must believe, and NOT Doubt. Pray in secret. Thank Him in advance, Ask it in the name of His Son, Thank the Lord, Praise God, Remember Jesus, Trust in Christ. Bless your enemies, Accept the Good with the bad.
This psalm came the right time ..God hears our cry's from Heaven and answers our prayers ...I need God's intervention my grandbaby ..He is being taken from his home to stay from time to time with a father who didn't want him before ....but is now being selfish and is using the child as way of getting even with his mom ..I pray for Peter to let go of the annamosity and do what's best for his son.
I once went to a very nice restaurant and the waiter for our table never missed anything. If our glass was low he was already refilling without a word spoken. How? In a discreet place nearby he stood intently observing us and our table. He knew (as in vs. 2) us well enough to the point that he could see that subtle 'signal of the hand.' Are our "our eyes wait[ing] upon the LORD our God" like him?
As the brother said it is so true. Put your Trust in God for he is the only one that can help you. for He healed my great niece, when the doctor's said they could do no more ,that all hope is gone Then GOD stepped in."'' He Performed a Miracle last month as in yesterday.
want He do it? The Doctor's were so shocked, but we had faith in God and he showed up.
Nobody but you God. We Give praise.
I know you are truly Bless everyday is a great Blessing. Soon has I get up I thank him and just ask that I may somehow please him. Help me to and the people in meet may they see something in me that will glorified and lift Him up. That they will see God's Light in me. I ask Him to help me every step I take He will be with me. Let them see I may not be perfect but Jesus is my Savior,and my Master.
God loves us all, and it's only through excepting Jesus as our Saviour, and repenting of our sins shall our name be in the book, but I can say trust in him, honour him, love him with all your heart, soul and might, he does protect us, he cared enough to send me back, I was to have died or be a vegetable, I love this psalm , I will never deny him to anyone, he gave me the chance to repent honestly
Seek not the things of the world seek the things of God for when trouble comes he is the one that can help u see peoples love u when u please them if u don't they stop loving u but God love u my brother my sister No matter what stay your bible u will fine God in his word.and remember the Father which is God .The Son which is Jesus and The Holy Ghost one God loveed us so he sent his. Son to die.
"Unto thee lift I up mine eyes, O thou that dwellest in the heavens...Our soul is exceedingly filled with the scorning of those that are at ease, and with the contempt of the proud." In a thousand different ways each day we will have to bring our thoughts and feelings under subjection. Our eyes and our hearts must be fixed on Jesus, who causes us to rise above the scorn and contempt of the world.
Love and pray for my brothers and sisters in Christ â¤ï¸ðŸ™ Their Praises to God our Father and their encouragement to other believers!!! May God richly bless each of you!!!
As we may be scorned. We must ask God to make us aware when we are scornful concerning others or holding them in disdain or derision. Always remembering It is Gods Mercy and Grace that allows us to be accepted in the beloved. Help us Lord to respect and pray for all men.
I totally agree with Pastor SD to God be the glory. God answers prayers He said ask and it shall be granted unto you. I asked for healing and Jesus
healed me of cancer, I got baptized and thank Him every day.
All most be mindful of God's love and healing through life's experiences which are subject to disappointments, trials, happiness, confusion, growth and development. As such time and forgiveness with an understanding Faith days seems to turn into months and months years and years continue with the Love and Power of God's Graces.
just wait upon the Lord for His mercy and grace , need not to discourage rather having complete confidence on God Almighty to approach who is seated on His throne and looking down from above to help the needy . There are few qualities to approach God, 1. humbleness 2.patience to wait 3. Have complete faith in God 4.continuously seeking Him 5. Exalting Him always . Lord alone who helps for all..
I like you was sincere, etc, but I was sincerely wrong, oh how I struggled, the veil always separated me from my Beloved, there was no pure unity of the faith & oneness that Christ prayed for, my conscience bearing witness against me, no matter how I cried, repented, fasted, prayed or studies the letter, & walk accordingly, yet, the veil was still hung between us & why? 2Cor 3:6 I remember it quiet well, a yoyo of an experience.
1 Cor 15:34,45 true knowledge is given by the true Grace of God who appears bringing salvation to all mankind.
Ronald, have you ever had an unction that cross your own will, telling you not to do or say something & show you what to do or to say? & if not heeded to, condemn you for it? Or maybe you were in a tryst state, & say or did something & later Holy Spirit/ Grace convicted you of wrong? This is the law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus, Grace/Light/Anointing we have received & appears within us, & if minded & exercised is the daily Cross & is not a lie, abide in Him & in the steadfast confidence continual exercising of it, will eventually set us free from the law of sin & death. Received by Luke 10:42 Psalms 130:5"the word of His Grace, who words are Spirit & Life" Psalms 145:12-18 Psalms 123:2 Psalms 62:5 meaning silencing all thoughts & imaginations & in stillness of soul, wait. Psalms 46:10 and He will appear Hebrews 9:28 . Believing that it is He appearing to you is faith, hearing the Word of God in the heart, that Paul preached & this faith purifies the heart & gives victory over the world.
2Cor 3:16-18 this stillness & waiting upon the Lord is turning to Him, who is Spirit, whom takes the veil away & gives us knowledge of Himself, 2Cor 4:6,7 setting us free from the bondage of sin, we know the Truth & the Truth set us free & transforms us into His Image. Light begets light, in whom there is no darkness at all.
causing you Philippians 2:13 Hebrews 13:21 "obviously this is not sinning".
Grace be to you
I mention; I Didn't advocate studying the Scriptures by carnal means, by the arts of natural science as you would for a vocation.
Doing this feeds the natural part in man, with a knowledge apart from the Life of God, nor can such knowledge give us the life of God, for how can it? The flaming swords which guards the Tree of Life only gives way to those who are led by the Spirit. 2Cor 3:6; The letter in any dispensation kills, giving him a form of godliness without the power to be truly godly. It a false form, promotes self righteousness, one doesn't come to 1John 1:1 in a personal encounter with the living God in Spirit, who would lead him to take up the cross, teach him to deny, mortify & crucify spiritual old man of sin, by the operation of the Spirit to the rebirth & renewing of the mind. Instead; it offers a fake cross that flesh carnal mind can easily carry & bare It doesn't separates him from 1John 2:16, but leaves him one in it. It takes away our dependence from God, Psalms 123:2; that God maybe all in all, for He alone is the blessedness of the creature.
I'm speaking not from hearsay, but from 27 yrs of personal experience, than in 2010 while in ministry school, God extended His outstretch Arm, encountering me again & slowly began opening the eyes of my heart, as I was able to bear it, to what I've been speaking of here, leading me to quit school & Luke 9:23
I quoted you scripture.
You believe: because God CAUSES you to believe.
His WORKS.
He doesn't cause everyone to believe at the same time.
Paul didn't believe until God caused him to believe.
Everything has an APPOINTED TIME; it the works of God, his timetable.
He chose Jacob; and not Esau, before they were ever conceived.
Hebrews 11:20 By faith (by the spirit of Christ) Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau, concerning THINGS TO COME.
Jacob; the last, was given dominion over the first.
Genesis 27:37
The first born of flesh is not always the first born of spirit.
Matthew 19:30 ... The first shall be last and the last first ....
After the second resurrection, when Esau stands in his former estate, his flesh, he will be caused to believe and the yoke will be broken from his neck.
Genesis 27:40
All things were maded new by Christ resurrection, but all things have an appoint time to come to TRUTH.
Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter POWER over the clay, of the same lump, to make one a vessel of HONOUR, and the other a vessel of DISHONOUR?
Daniel 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the world are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, and NONE can stay his hand, or say unto him, what doest thou?
Jeremiah 18:4 And the vessel he made of clay was MARRED in the potter's hand, so he MADE it again ....
Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit (when he chooses to do so), they are CREATED and thou renewest the face of the earth.
Ecclesiastes 3:1 To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven
Psalms 123:2 ...so our eyes wait upon the lord, UNTIL he have mercy upon us ....
NOT YET are ALL THINGS put under him; BUT, when they are, God will be ALL IN ALL.
God Bless you, my brother in Christ.
David married Bathsheba. Nathan also told him that his and Bathsheba's first born child would die. The baby died. David repented in ashes; got up and washed, ate a meal and comforted Bathsheba. His servants thought that he was terrible: Acting like the whole thing was normal.
David had poured out his heart hoping God would change His mind. ( l am the Lord and I change Not)
David tried. He knew it was his sin, totally.
He had children problems the rest of his life. He died before Solomons reign started. He didn't know his son would have hundreds of wives and concubines. Make treaties with nations God forbid, worship their idols.
Psalm 51 is authentic repentance for sins.
To use the Concordance, you can tap verse. New page opens. Bottom of page the words can be individually researched from the original text used for these translated versions on this site.
Interestingly & worth noting : occasionally I have found the surrounding words sometimes are a better key to my understanding than the single word, that I found perplexing.
Also prayer for wisdom: James 1:5,
Hopefully this is helpful
The key difference in my mind arises from use of the archaic versions' words "filled with contempt" as opposed to the more contemporary versions' "endured no end of contempt".
I understand this psalm (ie the KJV version) to be similar to Ps:51 a cry for mercy by a sinner.
In that, the psalmist feels conviction of their collective contemptuous attitude which is both like the contempt of those who live at ease (the rich?) and also the contempt that the proud have for others.
I looked at the Hebrew and it's frustratingly unclear because of the Yoda style grammar.
I think the use of the word "mercy" is also really shaping my opinion because words like "salvation", "deliverance", "rescue", "save", "protection", "justice", "defence" are most generally used when the Psalmist is feeling oppressed and is seeking relief. "Mercy" feels more in line with repentance or confession.
Love to hear others' thoughts.
There are not too many songs being heard in Eastern Canada, similar to California, but for different reasons. People that make their livelihood of the leading industries have their food basket slowly taken away. China has closed the borders to most products (e.g. lobster) and farmers have little to harvest as a result of the severe drought. The rural communities have been dying for the last ten years and the list of businesses that are closing is staggering. It is clear by your comments that you do not know what 'sin' is. It is not an act as you have been made to believe, but rather the 'fruit of the natural man' and is the very reason we urge you to repent. It means to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
Hospitals are a 'stronghold' ( 2 Cor. 10:4) of Satan's divided kingdom and his world ( Matthew 12:26; Luke 4:6; 11:18; John 12:31; 14:30; 2 Cor. 4:4; Eph. 2:2; 6:12; 1John 3:8) and the love you speak of is the love of the world and we know that you have not the love of God in you ( John 5:42).
So our message will remain the same: ye must repent.
The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9), and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( John 14:17).
In His Service.
Andy & Dianne van den Berg, Canada
I love the verse that says "Have Mercy upon us." If we ever needed the Lord it's now. The Bible is God's Children
road map to Heaven. Sometimes people try to force the Bible upon non- believers , but until they accept the
Lord Jesus this is not their word. I Pray daily for everyone to accept Jesus , then they can have all of the
Privileges that we experience as Children of God. Everyone is Welcome to become a Member of God's Family.
want He do it? The Doctor's were so shocked, but we had faith in God and he showed up.
Nobody but you God. We Give praise.
healed me of cancer, I got baptized and thank Him every day.