Thank you for answering the question I had regarding the Holy Spirit. Now if He doesn't have a body in Heaven what happens to Him since He is an eternal member of the God head? When He is no longer needed on earth? Thank you for even bothering to respond. Nancy.
Hi Nancy, since I wrote to you on this matter, I will respond again. As we know, that "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." ( John 4:24). That is, God in His Essence is a Spiritual Being without a body as we know. And in His fullness, He has shown to us His Word & His Spirit that are Him & proceed from Him. The Word we know was given a Body for the purposes of bringing God's Message to His people & to lay down His Life for mankind ( John 1:1-14; 3:16). God's Spirit was sent out of God's Being to accomplish His Purposes on Earth, including the indwelling of the believer, returns back to God when God's Will has been fully accomplished on Earth.
Even though I can't give you any clear Scripture to show God withdrawing His Spirit back into Himself, we have to surmise in our understanding of all of revealed Scripture we have, that as God sends out His Word & His Spirit, He must also withdraw them when His Work is done. Romans 8:26,27 tells us that the Holy Spirit helps us in our prayers, when we are ignorant on how to pray or what to pray. And it says that the Spirit helps us by lifting our 'deficient, uninformed' prayers to the Father, with His 'groans' or 'utterances' which we don't perceive. This the Spirit does because of His constant connection to the Godhead (as even Jesus had & enjoyed on Earth), & He is well able to translate our prayers into valid utterances that conform to the Will of God. But there are times that we ask (from the flesh) outside of God's Will (see James 4:3) & our prayers go no further than our ceiling.
So when the Spirit returns to God at the appointed time, we can't conclude that the Spirit will not again be sent out to fulfil another purpose of God. Where we fail in our understanding is that, since as humans we can't do what God does, so we conclude, that God can't do it either. Just as our spirits return to God Who gave it ( Ecclesiastes 12:7), so will His Holy Spirit return to the Godhead.
>The Holy Spirit is eternal just as the Father and Jesus, the Son of Man. (Which he is called in the Book of Revelation)
>He will still be involved with those that are born again after the Rapture and all through the Tribulation.
>During the time of The Two Witnesses.
>His Ministry in Jerusalem, many people will be saved. Also by the 144,000 evangelists. Angels.
>God is not willing that any should perish, but that all would come to repentance.
2 Timothy 4:5
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, DO THE WORK OF AN EVANGELIST, and make full proof of thy ministry.
1 Corinthians 3:13
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1 Corinthians 3:14
If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1 Corinthians 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Hebrews 6:10
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
1 Corinthians 15:58
Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
Evangelism may not be taught in your Church, but it was always in the Bible. You have a "testimony " of how you came to believe in Jesus; and that is enough to get someone else's name in the Lambs Book of Life.
Now is a perfect time to witness to others their need to choose Jesus and accept forgiveness and eternal life.
Hello, the way I understand the Godhead and the 3 in 1, comes from a different angle. Remember we are crafter like Him let's look at Gods Body:(I understand He's Omni-all)
Here we see it says the fullness of what makes up God the Creator dwelled in the Lord Jesus Christ- Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Isa9:6 is very telling, look at all the names of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor (Holy Ghost), The mighty God, The everlasting Father (Also the Father), The Prince of Peace.
Counselor -
The everlasting Father
The mighty God
We see from scripture, unless I missed a spot but there is only 1 image of God, The Lord Jesus Christ
Col 1:15, 2cor 4:4
We humans are made in his Image AND Likeness.
What does this mean? Image-Body/Spirit Likeness-Character, Emotions, The soul.
It even says we have the 3 and they are 1 yet we are not 3 people.
1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Isa 9:6 says speaks of the Lords Spirit when it mentions He will be called Wonderful, Counselor
What about the soul? The Father? Jesus mentions His (The Father)"shape" being unknown
John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
Col 1:15 calls Him "Invisible" Yet He is one with the Word made flesh, The Son
We are made in His Image and likeness, body soul and spirit
His Glory/Image/Majesty is displayed in the Lord Jesus Christ of whom is the
"Body" of God- Col 2:9,2 Cor 4:4, Col 1:15
Even the Lord Jesus Himself tells you unless He Himself is Being praised, Not the Father, nor the Spirit but HIM they are false look at what Joh 16:13,14 says about the Spirit of Truth.
Even though I can't give you any clear Scripture to show God withdrawing His Spirit back into Himself, we have to surmise in our understanding of all of revealed Scripture we have, that as God sends out His Word & His Spirit, He must also withdraw them when His Work is done. Romans 8:26,27 tells us that the Holy Spirit helps us in our prayers, when we are ignorant on how to pray or what to pray. And it says that the Spirit helps us by lifting our 'deficient, uninformed' prayers to the Father, with His 'groans' or 'utterances' which we don't perceive. This the Spirit does because of His constant connection to the Godhead (as even Jesus had & enjoyed on Earth), & He is well able to translate our prayers into valid utterances that conform to the Will of God. But there are times that we ask (from the flesh) outside of God's Will (see James 4:3) & our prayers go no further than our ceiling.
So when the Spirit returns to God at the appointed time, we can't conclude that the Spirit will not again be sent out to fulfil another purpose of God. Where we fail in our understanding is that, since as humans we can't do what God does, so we conclude, that God can't do it either. Just as our spirits return to God Who gave it ( Ecclesiastes 12:7), so will His Holy Spirit return to the Godhead.
>He will still be involved with those that are born again after the Rapture and all through the Tribulation.
>During the time of The Two Witnesses.
>His Ministry in Jerusalem, many people will be saved. Also by the 144,000 evangelists. Angels.
>God is not willing that any should perish, but that all would come to repentance.
2 Timothy 4:5
But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, DO THE WORK OF AN EVANGELIST, and make full proof of thy ministry.
1 Corinthians 3:13
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1 Corinthians 3:14
If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1 Corinthians 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
Hebrews 6:10
For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.
1 Corinthians 15:58
Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
Evangelism may not be taught in your Church, but it was always in the Bible. You have a "testimony " of how you came to believe in Jesus; and that is enough to get someone else's name in the Lambs Book of Life.
Now is a perfect time to witness to others their need to choose Jesus and accept forgiveness and eternal life.
It's not about rewards. It's about saving souls.
Mishael
Here we see it says the fullness of what makes up God the Creator dwelled in the Lord Jesus Christ- Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Isa9:6 is very telling, look at all the names of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor (Holy Ghost), The mighty God, The everlasting Father (Also the Father), The Prince of Peace.
Counselor -
The everlasting Father
The mighty God
We see from scripture, unless I missed a spot but there is only 1 image of God, The Lord Jesus Christ
Col 1:15, 2cor 4:4
We humans are made in his Image AND Likeness.
What does this mean? Image-Body/Spirit Likeness-Character, Emotions, The soul.
It even says we have the 3 and they are 1 yet we are not 3 people.
1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Isa 9:6 says speaks of the Lords Spirit when it mentions He will be called Wonderful, Counselor
What about the soul? The Father? Jesus mentions His (The Father)"shape" being unknown
John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
Col 1:15 calls Him "Invisible" Yet He is one with the Word made flesh, The Son
We are made in His Image and likeness, body soul and spirit
His Glory/Image/Majesty is displayed in the Lord Jesus Christ of whom is the
"Body" of God- Col 2:9,2 Cor 4:4, Col 1:15
Even the Lord Jesus Himself tells you unless He Himself is Being praised, Not the Father, nor the Spirit but HIM they are false look at what Joh 16:13,14 says about the Spirit of Truth.
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