Matthew 24:30 talks about the sign of the Son of Man; followed by the well known verse 34 about this generation not passing until all these things come to pass.
Psalm 90:10 seems to show the limit of a generation as being 80 years at most. If 1948 was the sign of the fig tree; that means that the Lord should return by 2028; obviously with a 7 year Tribulation and being currently in 2023 that can't happen.
One possible interpretation is that the Revelation 6 sign where the nations know the wrath of God and Christ is about to start would be what the sign is referring to not the actual physical return at Armageddon. Preterists are right at least to AD 70 and certain signs that showed the destruction of the Temple in the generational timeframe within 40 years of the crucifixion. Thus; we need to assume a double fulfillment which much prophecy indeed refers to.
Some have proposed 1967 and the recapture of Jerusalem as the date referred to. Even if that's the case it doesn't leave much more time; as we are already 56 years from that date and at least 63 years past then if he returns say in 2030.
Another theory I have is that the final generation may not BEGIN until the " Psalm 83" war which is an invasion of the nations immediately surrounding Israel which are NOT mentioned in the Ezekiel 38 war. There is also some confusion on the timing of Ezekiel 38-I will just say that there are some similarities to the battle (so called) after the Millenium with some important differences.
At any rate; we must realistically assess if we have been wrong assuming 1948; as many have already fallen away since 1988 came and went along with many other dates announced as to when "it had to happen by then." Many more have gone Postmillennial in their doctrines in recent years as a response I would expect. We certainly need as a minimum to believe in the literal physical return of Christ. That is the bottom line.
Richard H Priday Your posts do give one a lot to think about, Thank you for that Richard. You said "If 1948 was the sign of the fig tree; that means that the Lord should return by 2028; obviously with a 7 year Tribulation and being currently in 2023 that cant happen".
Then you also said "At any rate; we must realistically assess if we have been wrong assuming 1948;"
I have a different thought here Richard, Maybe you should be realistically assessing whether the rapture of the church comes before a 7 year Tribulation period?
When great tribulation starts that will be the midst, or middle which is the last 3 1/2 years that God will shorten for the elect's sake. I do believe we are in the beginning of sorrows time period now. If we look at ( Ps. 90:10) We see the last 10 year period is called (labour) and (sorrow). (it is soon cut off, and we fly away) The word (labour) is #5999; it means toil, wearing effort, worry, whether of body or mind, grievance (-vousness) iniquity, labour, mischief, miserable (-sery) pain (-ful) perverseness, sorrow, travail, trouble, wearisome, wickedness.
The word (sorrow) is #205; it means to pant, to exert oneself, usually in vain, to come to naught, strictly nothingness, also trouble, vanity, wickedness, affliction, evil, false, idol, iniquity, mischief, mourners (-ing) sorrow, unjust, unrighteous, vain, vanity, wicked (-ness). (The true meaning of those 2 words sound a lot like what people are dealing with today) Do they not?
Then we look at ( Mt. 24:4-8) v8 "All these are the beginning of (sorrows)" The word (sorrows) in this verse is #5604; it means a pang or throe, especially of childbirth, pain, sorrow, travail, grief (as dejecting).
We are in the beginning of sorrows now, when the great tribulation starts (which will be soon) that will be the last 3 1/2 year time period that will be shortened for the elect's sake. If this is the Truth then the Ps. 90:10 generational timeline is clearly still very possible. God Bless you Richard.
Matthew 24:30 talks about the sign of the Son of Man; followed by the well known verse 34 about this generation not passing until all these things come to pass.
Psalm 90:10 seems to show the limit of a generation as being 80 years at most. If 1948 was the sign of the fig tree; that means that the Lord should return by 2028; obviously with a 7 year Tribulation and being currently in 2023 that can't happen.
One possible interpretation is that the Revelation 6 sign where the nations know the wrath of God and Christ is about to start would be what the sign is referring to not the actual physical return at Armageddon. Preterists are right at least to AD 70 and certain signs that showed the destruction of the Temple in the generational timeframe within 40 years of the crucifixion. Thus; we need to assume a double fulfillment which much prophecy indeed refers to.
Some have proposed 1967 and the recapture of Jerusalem as the date referred to. Even if that's the case it doesn't leave much more time; as we are already 56 years from that date and at least 63 years past then if he returns say in 2030.
Another theory I have is that the final generation may not BEGIN until the " Psalm 83" war which is an invasion of the nations immediately surrounding Israel which are NOT mentioned in the Ezekiel 38 war. There is also some confusion on the timing of Ezekiel 38-I will just say that there are some similarities to the battle (so called) after the Millenium with some important differences.
At any rate; we must realistically assess if we have been wrong assuming 1948; as many have already fallen away since 1988 came and went along with many other dates announced as to when "it had to happen by then." Many more have gone Postmillennial in their doctrines in recent years as a response I would expect. We certainly need as a minimum to believe in the literal physical return of Christ. That is the bottom line.
Then you also said "At any rate; we must realistically assess if we have been wrong assuming 1948;"
I have a different thought here Richard, Maybe you should be realistically assessing whether the rapture of the church comes before a 7 year Tribulation period?
When great tribulation starts that will be the midst, or middle which is the last 3 1/2 years that God will shorten for the elect's sake. I do believe we are in the beginning of sorrows time period now. If we look at ( Ps. 90:10) We see the last 10 year period is called (labour) and (sorrow). (it is soon cut off, and we fly away) The word (labour) is #5999; it means toil, wearing effort, worry, whether of body or mind, grievance (-vousness) iniquity, labour, mischief, miserable (-sery) pain (-ful) perverseness, sorrow, travail, trouble, wearisome, wickedness.
The word (sorrow) is #205; it means to pant, to exert oneself, usually in vain, to come to naught, strictly nothingness, also trouble, vanity, wickedness, affliction, evil, false, idol, iniquity, mischief, mourners (-ing) sorrow, unjust, unrighteous, vain, vanity, wicked (-ness). (The true meaning of those 2 words sound a lot like what people are dealing with today) Do they not?
Then we look at ( Mt. 24:4-8) v8 "All these are the beginning of (sorrows)" The word (sorrows) in this verse is #5604; it means a pang or throe, especially of childbirth, pain, sorrow, travail, grief (as dejecting).
We are in the beginning of sorrows now, when the great tribulation starts (which will be soon) that will be the last 3 1/2 year time period that will be shortened for the elect's sake. If this is the Truth then the Ps. 90:10 generational timeline is clearly still very possible. God Bless you Richard.
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