I'm sorry if my response did not answer your question. Please allow a second shot at it.
You asked two questions. First question was if 1 Corinthians 1:18 means that we wear gold crosses around our necks?
My answer to that would be no.
Your second question: does 1 Corinthians 1:18 mean that we go to the tattoo parlor and ask for a cross to be etched/cut into our skin.
My answer to that would also be no. I gave you my understanding of what that verse means.
Again, your question is "Are we supposed to wear crosses on our necks?"
I do not know of any scripture that forbids it. There is scripture that speaks against idols and worship of idols. I suppose if a person does not worship or idolize a piece of jewelry or any other material possessions, that person would be okay.
Also, Luke 14:27 does not address your question. "Whosoever does not bear his cross" doesn't mean whosoever does not wear a cross around his neck.
What does it mean to bear ones cross?
Here in our culture, basically people understand it to mean whatever hardships I have to go through today, I'm just bearing my cross for Jesus. Except that whether you are a Christian or not, you are going to go through difficulties. It is not what it means.
When Jesus died on the cross, He died my death.In reference, you can read Romans 6:1-14, and Galatians 2:20.
What does it mean to take up your cross?
You see, when I received the life of Jesus Christ, I also received His death. That's why Paul can say in Philippians, "Oh that I might know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of his sufferings."
Power to live and power to suffer go hand in hand. But they are not my sufferings. They are the sufferings of Christ. But when He died on the cross, He died my death. He died in my place therefore I have died. But my biggest struggle in life is that every day, my flesh is trying to get down off that cross.
No, I don't believe we're supposed to wear crosses. Leviticus 26:1, nowhere does it say wear a cross, as jewelry. However it does say not to make idols.
Recently I thought, if a person had a friend that was killed by gunshot & had a miraculous recovery. How would he feel, if when he returned to his friends & family, they had an image of the gun or bullet around their neck, to honor him. I would think it would be upsetting to say the least. Wouldn't he say, "your missing the main point." isn't it the life lived?Jesus himself being the example of a loving life, helping others in need? & the hope & promise of resurrection. John 5:21-29, 1Corinthians 15:42-58, John 11:25, Ecclesiastes 5:15, 1Timothy 6:7,
Bare your cross: Luke 14, looking at context, whole chapter Jesus in doing the better thing by healing, suffered rejection, hate, wrongful judgement.
A cross is painful, it's obvious, on view for everyone to see, not something we can hide in our pocket. It causes ridicule & even division. Luke 14:11, Luke 14:12-14, Luke 14:17-20,24, Luke 14:26,27, also Matthew 10, note Matthew 10:36, Matthew 10:17,18, Matthew 10:21, Matthew 10:22, please read in context Matthew 10, Matthew 10:32-42, & Luke 9:22-26, also Matthew 16:21-28, Mark 8:29-38, Mark 10:14-52,
"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." 1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV - Does this mean that we wear gold crosses around our necks? Does this mean that we go to the tattoo parlor and ask for a cross to be etched/cut into our skin.......which is against the law by the way ->
"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD." Leviticus 19:28 KJV
Dear Neveah, I think that this is a deep mystery that only God really knows fully. But the word does tell us that God is One. This not only refers to the fact that He is only One Being. But "one" also refers to His Oneness, that is His unity of three distinct persons in this one Being, each being equally divine and equally possessing deity to the fullest. I don't think our minds can really wrap around this truth about God, but His word tells us so. Therefore, we believe it because He has said so.
One place in Scripture that I love is the Last Supper Discourse of Jesus in John's Gospel. It covers several chapters, but in it He speaks about the Father and the Spirit and Himself as in one another and as being unified. So beautiful, yet beyond our ability to fully comprehend, but we can apprehend it by faith only.
I recommend reading John chapter 1 and then what Jesus says and prays about at the Last Supper in John's Gospel.
When we die will we be with Jesus until He comes back to Rapture the Church . Or will we sleep in the grave until HE reunites body and Soul. Thessalonians seems to be of unite when we die. Corinthians sleep till Jesus comes for Church. Of course, I have wanted to " Be absent from the body present with the Lord." I have lived my life with the desire to be with my Lord. No more years, suffering or pain. Your opinions and Scripture will be appreciated. Janice Wright.
There are groups that teach about "prayer cloths" but their teaching are not biblical. They get this from Acts 19:11-12.
There are actually ministries today that if you send in your prayer request, they will pray over it or they will pray over a piece of cloth.
And they will send it to you in the mail and for your donation of $100.00 or more they will send you a "prayer cloth" and if you touch it you get healed.
It comes from this text right here. These ministries are making millions a year from these donations! And they say it comes from this text in Acts Chapter 19.
But Acts 19:21-12 is a historical account. It is not a teaching! God didn't say to do it. This was a very special time when Paul's headband and his apron from work, people would touch it, and they would be healed and demons would be cast out.
Many groups took this as a money making scheme. The Mormons taught about a prayer cloth, along with several Pentecostal groups. But they completely misapplied the biblical account and used it as a way to make money and many people fell for their scheme.
Hi, I was talking to someone about a prayer cloth and they never heard of it. Where is this located in the Bible, so, I can share with them? Thank you in advance for your help
The end is the end of this world , the day of judgement , the return of Christ , the establishment of God's Kingdom on earth . Revelation Ch 21 V 1-8 .
This is one of Scripture's truly great promises about what it means to be in Christ. Paul has been giving thanks to God for all the amazing things He has done for the Christians in Corinth. Everything he has mentioned is true of all Christians.
Reading these words, it's important to notice that nothing Paul has written mentions anything the Corinthians themselves have done. God has done it all, in and for them, as a free gift because of their faith in Christ. The rest of Paul's letter will show that as individuals and as a church, these believers in Corinth struggle with major spiritual problems. They are indulging in attitudes and actions that are sinful. Still, Paul writes the words of this verse to them and to all who are in Christ. God will not stop giving the Corinthians His good gifts. He will not stop sustaining them, keeping them going, holding them together. They will remain guiltless or blameless in His eyes all the way to the return of Christ on the day of the Lord.
How is this possible? Why would God do this? God's grace to us is rightly called "amazing." For those who come to Him by faith, God receives Christ's death as payment for our sins and gives us credit for Christ's righteous, sinless life on earth ( Romans 5:6-11). That's why, instead of dreading the return of Christ, Christians can wait for it with eager hopefulness ( Galatians 5:5; Romans 8:19-25).
Concerning Christ, who shall also confirm, that is, establish you unto the end, because God is faithful!
So not only are you established now in Christ, but this same Jesus is going to establish you all the way to the end.
Now if it were me writing a letter to this church in Corinth, I would have told them "Well, the Lord has established you but I can't promise you anything for your future if you keep going on the way you're going!"
But Paul is giving them a promise. He will establish you unto the end because God is faithful. He keeps his word.
The end would be when a believer stands before the Lord. God is faithful to keep a believer established until that day so that we will be found blameless.
Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
1 Thessalonians 4:13 - But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
Revelation 21:4 - And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Ecclesiastes 3
I'm 70. Been to some funerals. My generation is passing on, but those of us left can leave some hope with our young people just carving out their futures.
People like me, have seen a lot, done a lot and still have more time left. Do you have time for me or for the aged relatives in your life? I would LOVE to sit at Isaiah's feet and hear what he saw in chapter 1. I would like to get inside Paul's head in the days he was blinded by seeing Jesus on that Road. Every time Jacob got through something impossibly hard, he would build a pile of stones and leave the memory there. I have lots of questions_still.
It's good to ask questions, dig like an archaeologist in the Bible. Sift out every detail you can.
Evangelize. Pass on what you've sifted out of the Bible. Tell the Stories like Jesus did.
It's not right for the elderly to die with their stories still untold. Those are bricks we lean on, when life sends humanquakes. I'm taking my stories to heaven. There'll be billions I can tell them to :)
Likein the 60's we didn't ink up our bodies with tatoos. We used washable paint and went swimming after. It was fun. We waded in fountains. Racism was taught by politicians. We didn't segregate our paint & swim parties.
Church picnics were not segregated. I ate everyone's chicken! I hate what America has become. Jesus didn't teach it either. If only we would follow Jesus!
There is a passage in Corinthians that talks about....."It is better to be in the House of the mourning than the House of Merriment?
It compares being at someone's passing as oppose to being at someone's birthday. Because at someone's passing you have time to reflect on your own mortality.
God foretold this to Abraham when He visited Abraham before destroying Sodom and Gommorah, renewing the covenant promises with Abraham, and saying that Sarah would get pregnant in her next cycle, (which happened)
God also told Abraham that the height of sin of the Amorites had not reached the point to where God was going to judge them. But at the time of the exodus, the Israelites brought that judgment on the Amorite.
There may be other reasons why God determined it to be 400 years, but it may have been to allow time for the Israelites to grow from one family/tribe to a nation large enough to drive out the nations n Canaan and possss the land as God promised. Even at several million , the Israelites had to continue to fight and contend with other people's to maintain control of the promised land. So perhaps this was a factor.
Joseph did not cause his people to be enslaved, nor did he do It to pay back his brothers for their son against him. He forgave his brothers and invited them to come to Egypt during a lengthy fine across the lands in order to provide food and arible land for them in Goshen for their survival. Pharaoh at the time to was supportive of Joseph's family. So Joseph was chosen by God early in his life and he served God well despite the hardships he had to endure. God elevated Joseph to be second next to Pharaoh.
And God used this favor to bless the Istaelites.
God had foretold that Abraham's descendants would be in Egypt for all those years. They were there because God willed it. Jacob died in Egypt after live my there 60 years or so. Joseph and his brothers died in Egypt, too. Many generations passed by. Other Pharaohs came and went. Eventually, a Pharaoh ruled who did not favor the Istaelites and thus began their enslavement. I do think that by this time Israelites began adopting Egyption ways and idol worship (as the golden calf in Exodus demonstrates). God knew this would happen when He foretold this to Abraham.
God was using this enslavement to:
1) punish them for idolatry and for forsaking Him
2) to make them ready and will to leave the good land of Goshen to return to the land promised to the descendants of Abraham.
Perhaps you can go back and re-read about Joseph and the Israelites in Egypt.
Joseph was a good man and should not be disparaged by followers of God.
Well, I'm sure as soon they set their hearts to call upon God he gave ear to them, but if the question is why where they are in bondage in the first place, id say It goes back to Joseph when he had the power over all of Egypt he sold the people of Egypt into bondage to Pharoah so as a punishment that happen. Why God chose 400 year i don't know he's God he can do whatever he wants.
Gen 47:25-26 KJV - And they said, Thou hast saved our lives: let us find grace in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh's servants. And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth part; except the land of the priests only, which became not Pharaoh's.
Hello Free. I'm sorry that I missed your comment to me, but will address it now. My apologies.
In 1 Corinthians chapter 11, the apostle is speaking about this relationship within the New Covenant. Before Jesus came to Earth as a babe, the Bible tells us that He was the Word of God ( John 1:1-14). In other words, God manifested Himself to His people, Israel, through the giving of His Word & by His Spirit through His prophets. But now in these last days (i.e. New Covenant days - post Cross), He has spoken to us by His Son, that Word Who was made Man ( Hebrews 1:1,2).
So, now when we see Jesus, He is seen (in the NT), as God made flesh, died, buried, resurrected, & ascended to sit at the Father's right Hand ( Luke 22:69; Colossians 3:1; Hebrews 10:12). Jesus holds within Himself the full divinity of God His Father, all His Glory, & receives all the worship ( Hebrews 1:6; Revelation 5:12), but He now remains distinct in 'bodily' form because of His incarnation. And this is a picture of how we will be when translated to live in Heaven ( 1 John 3:2).
Therefore, God as Jesus' Father will always be at the Head, then Jesus as His only begotten Son next in position, then man as God's first creation in God's Image, & then woman made out of man, both of them bearing God's Image.
I don't understand your statement: "Also how do you say we are not under the old law but then makes new laws for women?" The only way I can understand your statement is to say that under the old Law, there was neither need nor provision for women preaching in the Church; there was no Church. This "ordinance" that Paul delivered ( 1 Corinthians 11:2) is entirely based on the risen Christ & His Church - nothing at all to do with any 'old' Law or whether the women of old ministered as prophets, judges, warriors, etc. Under the New Covenant, there is also a new order in His Body, as for those who now worship God in spirit & in Truth. Blessings.
I'm sorry if my response did not answer your question. Please allow a second shot at it.
You asked two questions. First question was if 1 Corinthians 1:18 means that we wear gold crosses around our necks?
My answer to that would be no.
Your second question: does 1 Corinthians 1:18 mean that we go to the tattoo parlor and ask for a cross to be etched/cut into our skin.
My answer to that would also be no. I gave you my understanding of what that verse means.
Again, your question is "Are we supposed to wear crosses on our necks?"
I do not know of any scripture that forbids it. There is scripture that speaks against idols and worship of idols. I suppose if a person does not worship or idolize a piece of jewelry or any other material possessions, that person would be okay.
Also, Luke 14:27 does not address your question. "Whosoever does not bear his cross" doesn't mean whosoever does not wear a cross around his neck.
What does it mean to bear ones cross?
Here in our culture, basically people understand it to mean whatever hardships I have to go through today, I'm just bearing my cross for Jesus. Except that whether you are a Christian or not, you are going to go through difficulties. It is not what it means.
When Jesus died on the cross, He died my death.In reference, you can read Romans 6:1-14, and Galatians 2:20.
What does it mean to take up your cross?
You see, when I received the life of Jesus Christ, I also received His death. That's why Paul can say in Philippians, "Oh that I might know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of his sufferings."
Power to live and power to suffer go hand in hand. But they are not my sufferings. They are the sufferings of Christ. But when He died on the cross, He died my death. He died in my place therefore I have died. But my biggest struggle in life is that every day, my flesh is trying to get down off that cross.
No, I don't believe we're supposed to wear crosses. Leviticus 26:1, nowhere does it say wear a cross, as jewelry. However it does say not to make idols.
Recently I thought, if a person had a friend that was killed by gunshot & had a miraculous recovery. How would he feel, if when he returned to his friends & family, they had an image of the gun or bullet around their neck, to honor him. I would think it would be upsetting to say the least. Wouldn't he say, "your missing the main point." isn't it the life lived?Jesus himself being the example of a loving life, helping others in need? & the hope & promise of resurrection. John 5:21-29, 1Corinthians 15:42-58, John 11:25, Ecclesiastes 5:15, 1Timothy 6:7,
Bare your cross: Luke 14, looking at context, whole chapter Jesus in doing the better thing by healing, suffered rejection, hate, wrongful judgement.
A cross is painful, it's obvious, on view for everyone to see, not something we can hide in our pocket. It causes ridicule & even division. Luke 14:11, Luke 14:12-14, Luke 14:17-20,24, Luke 14:26,27, also Matthew 10, note Matthew 10:36, Matthew 10:17,18, Matthew 10:21, Matthew 10:22, please read in context Matthew 10, Matthew 10:32-42, & Luke 9:22-26, also Matthew 16:21-28, Mark 8:29-38, Mark 10:14-52,
Philippians 2:1-15, Colossians 1:10-29 ,
Matthew 25:31-46, James 1:5,
Hopefully these are helpful
"And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:27 KJV
"Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD." Leviticus 19:28 KJV
One place in Scripture that I love is the Last Supper Discourse of Jesus in John's Gospel. It covers several chapters, but in it He speaks about the Father and the Spirit and Himself as in one another and as being unified. So beautiful, yet beyond our ability to fully comprehend, but we can apprehend it by faith only.
I recommend reading John chapter 1 and then what Jesus says and prays about at the Last Supper in John's Gospel.
Agreed, we all need to be more prayerful. Pray without ceasing, says Paul. Don't just commiserate or empathize with others, pray!
I need to hear this today, Mishael. Thank you.
There are groups that teach about "prayer cloths" but their teaching are not biblical. They get this from Acts 19:11-12.
There are actually ministries today that if you send in your prayer request, they will pray over it or they will pray over a piece of cloth.
And they will send it to you in the mail and for your donation of $100.00 or more they will send you a "prayer cloth" and if you touch it you get healed.
It comes from this text right here. These ministries are making millions a year from these donations! And they say it comes from this text in Acts Chapter 19.
But Acts 19:21-12 is a historical account. It is not a teaching! God didn't say to do it. This was a very special time when Paul's headband and his apron from work, people would touch it, and they would be healed and demons would be cast out.
Many groups took this as a money making scheme. The Mormons taught about a prayer cloth, along with several Pentecostal groups. But they completely misapplied the biblical account and used it as a way to make money and many people fell for their scheme.
Matthew 25:31-46, 1Peter 4, Matthew 12:36, Romans 2, James 2, 2Peter 3:7, Jude 1, Revelation 20,
2Peter 2:9, 1John 4:17,
Hopefully these are helpful in your learning
Reading these words, it's important to notice that nothing Paul has written mentions anything the Corinthians themselves have done. God has done it all, in and for them, as a free gift because of their faith in Christ. The rest of Paul's letter will show that as individuals and as a church, these believers in Corinth struggle with major spiritual problems. They are indulging in attitudes and actions that are sinful. Still, Paul writes the words of this verse to them and to all who are in Christ. God will not stop giving the Corinthians His good gifts. He will not stop sustaining them, keeping them going, holding them together. They will remain guiltless or blameless in His eyes all the way to the return of Christ on the day of the Lord.
How is this possible? Why would God do this? God's grace to us is rightly called "amazing." For those who come to Him by faith, God receives Christ's death as payment for our sins and gives us credit for Christ's righteous, sinless life on earth ( Romans 5:6-11). That's why, instead of dreading the return of Christ, Christians can wait for it with eager hopefulness ( Galatians 5:5; Romans 8:19-25).
Concerning Christ, who shall also confirm, that is, establish you unto the end, because God is faithful!
So not only are you established now in Christ, but this same Jesus is going to establish you all the way to the end.
Now if it were me writing a letter to this church in Corinth, I would have told them "Well, the Lord has established you but I can't promise you anything for your future if you keep going on the way you're going!"
But Paul is giving them a promise. He will establish you unto the end because God is faithful. He keeps his word.
The end would be when a believer stands before the Lord. God is faithful to keep a believer established until that day so that we will be found blameless.
1 Thessalonians 4:13 - But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
Revelation 21:4 - And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Ecclesiastes 3
I'm 70. Been to some funerals. My generation is passing on, but those of us left can leave some hope with our young people just carving out their futures.
People like me, have seen a lot, done a lot and still have more time left. Do you have time for me or for the aged relatives in your life? I would LOVE to sit at Isaiah's feet and hear what he saw in chapter 1. I would like to get inside Paul's head in the days he was blinded by seeing Jesus on that Road. Every time Jacob got through something impossibly hard, he would build a pile of stones and leave the memory there. I have lots of questions_still.
It's good to ask questions, dig like an archaeologist in the Bible. Sift out every detail you can.
Evangelize. Pass on what you've sifted out of the Bible. Tell the Stories like Jesus did.
It's not right for the elderly to die with their stories still untold. Those are bricks we lean on, when life sends humanquakes. I'm taking my stories to heaven. There'll be billions I can tell them to :)
Likein the 60's we didn't ink up our bodies with tatoos. We used washable paint and went swimming after. It was fun. We waded in fountains. Racism was taught by politicians. We didn't segregate our paint & swim parties.
Church picnics were not segregated. I ate everyone's chicken! I hate what America has become. Jesus didn't teach it either. If only we would follow Jesus!
It compares being at someone's passing as oppose to being at someone's birthday. Because at someone's passing you have time to reflect on your own mortality.
For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
God does not send Christians into all the world today to baptize, but to preach the Gospel.
Have a great day ...
God foretold this to Abraham when He visited Abraham before destroying Sodom and Gommorah, renewing the covenant promises with Abraham, and saying that Sarah would get pregnant in her next cycle, (which happened)
God also told Abraham that the height of sin of the Amorites had not reached the point to where God was going to judge them. But at the time of the exodus, the Israelites brought that judgment on the Amorite.
There may be other reasons why God determined it to be 400 years, but it may have been to allow time for the Israelites to grow from one family/tribe to a nation large enough to drive out the nations n Canaan and possss the land as God promised. Even at several million , the Israelites had to continue to fight and contend with other people's to maintain control of the promised land. So perhaps this was a factor.
Meant sin not son
And famine not fine.
Joseph did not cause his people to be enslaved, nor did he do It to pay back his brothers for their son against him. He forgave his brothers and invited them to come to Egypt during a lengthy fine across the lands in order to provide food and arible land for them in Goshen for their survival. Pharaoh at the time to was supportive of Joseph's family. So Joseph was chosen by God early in his life and he served God well despite the hardships he had to endure. God elevated Joseph to be second next to Pharaoh.
And God used this favor to bless the Istaelites.
God had foretold that Abraham's descendants would be in Egypt for all those years. They were there because God willed it. Jacob died in Egypt after live my there 60 years or so. Joseph and his brothers died in Egypt, too. Many generations passed by. Other Pharaohs came and went. Eventually, a Pharaoh ruled who did not favor the Istaelites and thus began their enslavement. I do think that by this time Israelites began adopting Egyption ways and idol worship (as the golden calf in Exodus demonstrates). God knew this would happen when He foretold this to Abraham.
God was using this enslavement to:
1) punish them for idolatry and for forsaking Him
2) to make them ready and will to leave the good land of Goshen to return to the land promised to the descendants of Abraham.
Perhaps you can go back and re-read about Joseph and the Israelites in Egypt.
Joseph was a good man and should not be disparaged by followers of God.
tool over. Sorry should have had this in there last time.
pharoah became ruler and as it says in Exodus 1:8 he knew not Joseph and started dealing wickedly with
the children of Israel.
Gen 47:25-26 KJV - And they said, Thou hast saved our lives: let us find grace in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh's servants. And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth part; except the land of the priests only, which became not Pharaoh's.
In 1 Corinthians chapter 11, the apostle is speaking about this relationship within the New Covenant. Before Jesus came to Earth as a babe, the Bible tells us that He was the Word of God ( John 1:1-14). In other words, God manifested Himself to His people, Israel, through the giving of His Word & by His Spirit through His prophets. But now in these last days (i.e. New Covenant days - post Cross), He has spoken to us by His Son, that Word Who was made Man ( Hebrews 1:1,2).
So, now when we see Jesus, He is seen (in the NT), as God made flesh, died, buried, resurrected, & ascended to sit at the Father's right Hand ( Luke 22:69; Colossians 3:1; Hebrews 10:12). Jesus holds within Himself the full divinity of God His Father, all His Glory, & receives all the worship ( Hebrews 1:6; Revelation 5:12), but He now remains distinct in 'bodily' form because of His incarnation. And this is a picture of how we will be when translated to live in Heaven ( 1 John 3:2).
Therefore, God as Jesus' Father will always be at the Head, then Jesus as His only begotten Son next in position, then man as God's first creation in God's Image, & then woman made out of man, both of them bearing God's Image.
I don't understand your statement: "Also how do you say we are not under the old law but then makes new laws for women?" The only way I can understand your statement is to say that under the old Law, there was neither need nor provision for women preaching in the Church; there was no Church. This "ordinance" that Paul delivered ( 1 Corinthians 11:2) is entirely based on the risen Christ & His Church - nothing at all to do with any 'old' Law or whether the women of old ministered as prophets, judges, warriors, etc. Under the New Covenant, there is also a new order in His Body, as for those who now worship God in spirit & in Truth. Blessings.