1 Corinthians Chapter 11 Discussion Page 4

Michael, about your comment on hair length, did you state that Jesus would have had short hair? Many of the Independent Fundamental Baptists like to portray Jesus with a crew cut, which is quite absurd. We have to rightly divide; Paul was writing to people in the body of Christ, not to Jews nor to Christ Himself. Per Leviticus 19:27, Jesus had long hair. He didn't break the law.

Yes I believe the apostle meant what he said concerning long hair on a man you see Christ did not have long hair all of the paintings that you see of him began hundreds of years after his death and if we knew what he looked like every picture we see of him would all look the same I have seen pictures of the Lord Jesus from many different countries and none look the same

Ann Hering; This is a good example of why God does not allow women to exercise dominion over men, nor to teach in the Church: you do not accurately expound, and you base your exposition on false premise. There was no "transition period" between Law and Grace. Jesus came not to abolish the Law, but to accomplish it! The day Jesus came in the flesh born of the virgin the word of God was completed.

1,2 Corinthians is written to the church of God at Corinth, a Jewish Little Flock church. These people are prophesying because the completed Word of God did not exist yet. 1Cor 11:1-16 instructs these Jewish men who prophesy to shave their head, like Paul did, and the women, who prophesied, to have their hair as a covering. These ordinances were in the transition from law to grace. Not for today!

Barbara; but if anyone seems to be contentious about it; "We have no such tradition!" I think that there are many things we COULD do as signs and for teaching in the statutes that Moses gave to the children of Israel; as long as we can confirm them by the manner of life that shows the grace of God in the Gospel of Christ REALLY true and fulfilled, an evidence of the Presence of His Spirit in us.

Alleluia Glory To God

The Bible says that it is a sham for a woman to pray uncovered and it is a shame for a man to pray covered and their hair is the covering that God has given them. Therefore if people say it is ok for a woman to pray uncovered then it would be ok for the man to pray covered. It is a shame, and we are pleasing ourselves when we go against what God has said, who is the one we will stand before.

covering of hair by women, the bible did not out rightly condemned it as sin, in verse 13, the bible tells us to judge in ourselves whether it is comely for that a woman should pray unto God uncovered. It is left for us to judge it. If it was a sin, the bible would have condemned it straight ahead.

We are to learn of GOD. That means we should, with all our getting...get an understanding. The word or GOD is both old and new testaments. We are to study and rightly divide it. Even with that, there is order. How can we hear without a preacher, how can he preach except he be sent? When you receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, it will lead and guide you unto ALL truth! Always follow the word of GOD

Amen.

Verse 3: Every being created has a head that they are to be subject to. This shows how Jehovah God is a God of order.

Its amazing that people don't understand the writings of Apostle Paul, even Apostle Peter had a hard time understanding Paul. Peter had to eat his pride and admit that Paul was chosen from Jesus and that we have to believe and follow his epistles or destruction may come to us. Paul in the book of Corinthians is our Apostle for this period of time today. For by Grace are we saved, not by works.

1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ and the head of the woman is the man and the head of Christ is God. It's the same with Apostle Paul. Jesus taught Paul mysteries and revelations. Therefore Jesus wants us to follow Paul because Paul is following Jesus. Simple

A woman's hair is her glory, we DO know why. 1Cor.11:15 "it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering." The hair should cover her head,which is about to the jawline for the head to be covered, bangs would not be involved. No where does it say it is a sin to cut a woman's hair. Scripture does not tell why it affects angels. V.10

Julius, Your answer for "uncovered" is verse 15.(And if a woman does not have hair that is long enough to cover her head she should cover it with something else,when she prays because of angels in verse 10) "Cover" a man should not have hair long enough to cover his head, it dishonors his head, verse 4.

What is the meaning of these words COVER and UNCOVER as used in 1 Corinthians 11 : 4 - 5?

John 10:36, Christ states He is the Son of God. Couldn't be planer.

Irene, just think you need to do some Bible study with a more open and questioning mind and heart. Seems you are troubled by "Father, Son, Holy Ghost", etc. Must be a problem for you. GB

To Martha on 1 Jn. 5-7 I appreciated your support of the Word of God. Just pray for those on here, as you would others only God can reach them. They love to debate that's why they are on here.

Gen. 1 - To Bruce; Apology/clarification - I didn't read your message about 'Elohiym' right; I must have confused you - and I am sorry for that.

Irene: I assumed with your Bible study and you wouldn't need an explanation. Elohiym is a Name of God pronounced El-o-heem. It is plural meaning more than One. Like:we,us,our,them---In the beginning Elohiym created the Heaven and the Earth. Elohiym said,let Us make man in Our Image,after Our likeness. / There are Three in Heaven--- . There are different spellings for Elohiym for different meaning.

The word Elohim isn't - Eloheem ............

Hi Irene; Translating the Bible from the original tongues into other languages has always been a challenge just by its nature. The Hebrew word which is translated into the English, GOD; is El-o-heem, which is in the plural form; and depending on the context can mean gods or mighties or angels. The King James Version is indeed a masterpiece; and I love mine; but it is not the original language.

Irene: Genesis 1:1 in the beginning Elohiym created the heaven and the earth/ in the beginning God,in Hebrew that is Elohiym the plural of God, in the beginning ------- created The Heaven and Earth. V:26 let "us"make man in "our" image after "our" likeness:---. (el-o-heem)

Deut. 6:4 - just as an aside to all this trinity/oneness stuff - is there anywhere in the KJV Bible where LORDS, (plural) is used of God?

Son of God; Son of man; but there is not ONE sentence that says - God the son. God (spirit) wasn't the 'son'; the FLESH BODY was the son; the spirit (God) indwelt the body fully. When Jesus spoke of the son of man , He was speaking of his flesh body; when He spoke of the son of God, He spoke of the spirit in the body.

Every word of the O.T. and N.T. of the KJV not 'new' kjv come from the 'mouth' of Jesus God was MANIFEST in the flesh God's name is - JESUS. ONE God His name is Jesus.

V. 15 - Long hair is - UNCUT hair - no 'trimmed' split ends, no 'bangs'. "A woman ought to have POWER on her head because of the angels". The power is from God, to hear our prayers, to use us for His Glory; there is no higher calling. But long hair on a sinner woman that hasn't followed Acts 2:38 has no benefit; Cleopatra had long hair. Jezebel had long hair, Jn. 9:31.

Bruce

Martha: but whom say ye that I am? Thou art The Christ,The Son of The living God. Blessed art thou,Simon Barjonah:for flesh and blood hath not
Revealed it unto thee,but My Father which is in Heaven.Matthew16:15-17
The Son can do nothing of Himself but what he seeth The Father do/V:30
I can of my own self do nothing:---I seek not my own will but,the will of The Father which sent me. John 5:19,30.