1 Corinthians Chapter 13 Discussion Page 13

According to 1Cornthians 13:10, Perfect means completely full of knowledge, completely full of everything, completely full of love. Nothing incomplete in it and only one thing is “fullness of knowledge”, everything is there. This word of God means Bible and MEANS NEW TESTMENT BECAUSE at that time the New Testament was being written and now perfect has come. The Bible is perfect because this is word of GOD.

The love that is being spoken here MUST be from GOD HIMSELF because I cannot imagine that I can give out my body to be burnt but WITHOUT LOVE, it is nothing. Then it means this LOVE is from a PURE heart. THIS LOVE does not require man's REWARD in that when you LOVE then don't BOAST!

You are nobody without love. You have to be real, God is love.

This scripture tells what love is not, and also lets us know what love is.

1 Corinthians 13, you got to have love, everything else will pass away. Jesus is love.

@Paul,
Love is general and can be godly or even worldly (like the love of money 1 Timothy 6:10).
But Charity is specific, in that it is only godly. The love of God in the renewed mind of the believer manifested.
God bless you.

I don't feel the thrill when I am reading charity than when I am reading love.

It is time to get the full meaning of Bible prophecies.... Daniel 2:44, 1 Peter 3:13, Mark 13:10, etc…

Learn it, live it, love it.

To me, there is a difference between "Love" and "Charity" Just as there is with Faith...But are one in our Lord Jesus Christ and Father, Son, Holy Spirit is ONE.

I believe charity is a bad interpretation and that love is correct but also misinterpreted as works why john 14:21 Jesus says He that has my commandments and keepeth them he it is that loveth me and he that loveth me shall be loved of my father and I will love him . the person who has love keeps his commandments.. John 15:9-10 As the Father has loved me so have I loved you continue ye in my love if you keep my commandments you shall abide in my love as I have kept my fathers commandments and abide in his love .....1 John3:23 And this is his commandment that we should believe on the name of his son Jesus Christ ....And love one another as he gave commandment all religions can have charity but they can not have love because they deny that Jesus is the SON OF GOD. As the Word of God HE gives you the Fathers Commandment then he gives you his commandment to love one another thinking that good works are what were talking about is wrong also Matthew 7:21 Not every one that says onto me Lord Lord shall enter into the Kingdom of heaven but he that doeth the will of my father which is in heaven John6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me that all that seeth the Son and believeth on him may have everlasting life and I will raise him up again at the last day...in that day many will say onto me Lord Lord have we not prophisized in thy name cast out demons in thy name and in thy name done many wonderfull works Romans 4:5-6 Now to him that worketh is the reward not recond of grace but of debt But to him that worketh not but believeth on him that justfieth the ungodly his faith is counted for rightsness Ephesians 2:8-9 for by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God not of works lest any man should boast then Jesus says to them depart from me ye workers of iniguity I never Knew you 1John2:3 hereby we do know that we know him if we keep his Commandments 1John3:23

I am pondering those occasions when God modeled patience... Also, it strikes me that this aspect of God's care for us is abused with, in that we feel that God is somehow soft and perhaps not willing to do what He has said He would do...

This chapter shows Paul at his most Platonic. Charity is a far more accurate translation of the original 'agape', especially as that term was defined by Socrates nearly 400 years earlier in the notoriously misinterpreted Symposium. "For now we see through a glass (mirror) darkly; but then face to face" is the Allegory of the Cave from Book VII of The Republic. As an educated Grecophone Jew raised in Asia Minor, Saul of Tarsus would have been intimately familiar with these texts.

The direction of love is important. It is outward, from yourself towards others. When we suffered, before knowledge, looking inward to our own desires, we did not know happiness, serenity or love. When knowledge comes, then we look outward to the needs of others and to the beauty of their soul. The we find happioness and we know love.

We christian keep on asking God to give us great faith without praying to have Gods love in us.we often forgets that the greatest virtue one can have is love.These three remains:faith,hope nd luv but the greatest is love.

"Hear ( Mt 7:24), believe ( Jn 8:24) repent ( Lk 13:3,5) confess ( Acts 8:37) and be baptized for the remission of your sins, ( Acts 2:38, 8:12, acts 22:16)"

AMEN. THAT SUMS IT ALL UP. TRUE REPENTANCE AND ACCEPTING CHRIST SACRIFICIAL LOVE ON CALVARY IS WHAT'S REQUIRED. PAUL SAYS LET EVERY MEN BE WRONG AND GOD'S WORD BE RIGHT. NOW WE SEE THINGS DARKLY THRU THE GLASS, BUT THEN FACE-TO-FACE, WE SHALL BEHOLD HOLD HIM CHRIST THE LORD. IT GIVES ME REAL JOY HAVING TO KNOW CHRIST. THE ONLY REASON I LIVE IS TO WORSHIP HIM. GOD BLESS SAINTS!

What does the word perfect mean in scripture? But the man who looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues to do this, not forgetting what he has heard, but doing it--he will be blessed in what he does.( James 1:25). Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." ( Matthew 19:21) Does the perfect here means something different than the perfect used in 1st Corinthians 13:10? What is the perfect law of liberty? What was Jesus referencing when he told the rich young ruler if thou would be perfect go sell all that you have and come follow me. Could perfect mean complete? I'm just saying! Sometimes we make things more difficult than they should be! My feeling or my opinion is fruitless when it comes to the word of God. Solomon said in Proverbs 16:25 "There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." In Matthew 7:24 Jesus said these words "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock." The Hebrew writer said in Hebrews 5:8-9 Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation,

Hear ( Mt 7:24), believe ( Jn 8:24) repent ( Lk 13:3,5) confess ( Acts 8:37) and be baptized for the remission of your sins, ( Acts 2:38, 8:12, acts 22:16)

Love is the willing sacrificial giving of ones self...for the benefit of others...with out thought of return... to sum it all up selflessness..............do you have love...it is a friut of the Spirit....if you dont have love....are you really saved...are you producing fruit?
Love fulfilled the law?

When a beggar on the streets ask for a hand out, and you give him a sizable hand out. This is a sign of love to be passed on.

love is a virtue we ought to uphold daily and live every breathing moment

I read this passage with a friend looking for the meaning of love this passage tells us that all these things will not last except love just like GODS WORD charity faith even suffering means nothing with out the love so being puffed up or looking recognition for them makes it phony and selfish love must motivate these action free from self concerns

The greatest of these is love. Yes it is good to have hope, but hope will be done away with. Yes it is good to have faith, but it too will be done away with when Jesus return for the Church. Love will last forever. Hear by we know we have passed from death to life when we love one another. This is the best thing about heaven because everyone there will love one another. Jesus said by this shall all men know that you are my disciples by the love that you have one for the other.

1 Corinthian 13 in its entirety is speaking about the attributes of love. 10 says, 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
When real, perfect love, the love of the Father for us through Christ is shown in ours lives anything fake, unreal is done away with.
I know it is simplistic but...

I have never had piece when it comes to the teaching that proclaims that the "perfect" is the finalization of the canon of scripture. For one thing, it's a bit of a reach to state such a thing when there are virtually no other verses to support this notion. I believe the "perfect" being referenced in this verse is none other than the 2nd coming of our Lord. A verse which supports this is 1 Corinthians 1:7. I'm surprised no one has ever tied this verse into the discussion as it clearly reveals how long the gifts are to be used to edify the body of Christ.
"So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ"

"Charity suffereth long, and is kind..." ( I Corinthians 13:1-13)

What is love?

Years ago, I had a friend and it was common among us both to walk to each others houses - daily.

Sometimes I would go to her house and knock on the door. Someone would answer the door, usually the grandmother or the mother, and I would ask could my friend play. They would open the door and let me in. On occasions, they would be seated at the table eating a meal. As I would walk in they would ask me would I like to eat with them. I would tell them "thank you, but I'll wait outside or I'll come back later." They would say "no, come on in." I would then make my way to sit in the living room adjoining the dining room.

The father would then ask me if I wanted to go to the land with them. (They had land where he had made a lake. They had a lakehouse, and golf carts we could ride around the lake. We swam and fished and just ran around.) I would say, "Yes." He would then say, "If you going with us, you need to get up to this table and eat, no one gets to go unless they eat." I got up to the table and ate.

At the land, I remember he once told me he would pay me $5.00 an hour to pick up potatoes. At the time, $5.00 and hour was way more than minimum wage (as I later learned).

He had a tractor and plowed a certain area. We went behind the tractor - I never saw so many potatoes. We picked them all up. I remember the feeling of joy and pride when we got to the end of the area and there were no more potatoes - until I saw him coming again with the tractor. He plowed the area again, and there were more potatoes! We picked the field again.

I remember us sitting all together shelling butterbeans - until my finger was worn.

On the way home, he would stop at a little country store and buy us all a candy bar and a soda.

They had a large house, but it did not feel like a museum. We played pool and ping pong and went to the farm and rode ponies.

I remember the house and the things, but without love, these things would become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

"Love suffereth long, and is kind...vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up..."

I remember love.

Very well, that means NO that abominable creature in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Faith, hope and charity. These virtues that if we possess we become complete, as compared to just in part. That is our understanding, the secrets of God revealed in our hearts, by which secrets we speak in tongues, albeit spontaneously, or we prophesy truth, ot we teach true wisdom. Paul was not an actor, or a philosopher, but an Apostle of the Risen Christ. Pretty heady stuff, but he was chosen and not self-appointed as many will do. For his knowledge of scripture and zeal for God surpassed all of his contempories of that day, and even though he persecuted this way even to consenting to the stoning of Stephen, he was accepted into the small fraternity of Apostles. God needed him to teach in his special way for all of our edification and understanding down through these generations.

Are the mentioned tongues existing tongues of human being? Or does the verse suggests that a human being can speak Angel's togue which is not understood by the speaker himself and by the listeners?

This is a verse many believers need to understand better. While it is important for us to tell people the truth about hell, we need to do it in love. There's alot of mean spirited Christians out there and that troubles me.

In "Pygmalion" Higgins admonishes Eliza "Remember that you are a human being with a soul and the divine gift of articulate speech: that your native language is the language of Shakespeare and Milton and The Bible". I don't think Shaw was referring to the Revised Standard version