1 Corinthians Chapter 7 Discussion Page 3

To Luis:

You need to stay in 1 Corinthians chapter 7; read it slow; take some notes to keep it straight.

My comment is that children suffer the MOST when parents get their relationships in a knot.

Genesis 2:23-24 is the first marriage in creation. It's supposed to be a covenant. The two become one.

God barely tolerates divorce; only for adultery. If I understood right you have left the wife of your youth? Do you have children with her?

My best advise is to go to a Christian pastor or counselor, with your legal wife and try to see if you have enough between you to continue.

The 2nd woman, unfortunately, doesn't get to participate in the counseling.

Try to consider three people who are being harmed by this. I know if you ask the Lord to help you set it right, He will help you.

Spend a little time in 1 Corinthians 13, the love chapter. My Bible says charity which is the same word, love. Don't walk away from God over this. God is Love. Walk toward Him.

Luis. That's an awful relationship situation you present. It's difficult to comment as this man has supposedly become a 'Christian' & still wants to behave like a non-Christian & leave a trail of tragedies around him. Some Christians believe that there is still opportunity for him to get himself right with God through repentance, even though he wants to remarry while being a 'Christian'!; others believe, there is no more hope as he would "put Christ to an open shame" ( Heb 6:6).

Well, I can't see that he ever converted in the first place (but God is his Judge & sees the condition of his heart, not me). So whatever he decides to do will be sin & until he comes to the foot of the Cross in true conviction of his many sins, there is no salvation for him. So your question: what should he do? Well, salvation through Jesus is his only hope & he stays with his second wife, without adding sin upon sin, but if he wants to maintain this lifestyle of having multiple wives (as God doesn't recognize divorce), then he is free to do whatever he wants, as those who conduct themselves as non-Christians, without the knowledge of God & His Word.

Hello, divorce is a sin. Matthew 5:32. Please read the whole chapter to see what God thinks about divorce. There's only few exceptions such as if your wife betrayed your vows and cheated on you. May God bless you and your decisions.

Question: If a man is living with a women and has a child with that women, then leaves this 1st women for another, Then decides to marry 2nd women, and he becomes a Christian. No he wants to return to the 1st. Also wanting to divorce the 2nd women his present wife. What can he do? or what must he do?

Jesse, thanks for your comments; they are appreciated knowing of course, no two people can agree on everything, especially when dealing with such matters which also must include our own experiences in life being factored in.

Yes, I agree that God's forgiveness is paramount here, or else, as the disciples enquired of the Lord, "who then can be saved?" ( Mt 19:25), when enquiring about who could get to Heaven. However, when as Christians we commit a single, maybe isolated sin, we find instantaneous conviction & hopefully take the needed action. I wonder how it would work if one, who knows that an adulterous relationship is about to be entered into, or for that matter, any sin (e.g. a union with someone in something illegal or a lifestyle that is tainted with things which God would frown upon), that the long term effects would be something one would have to live with (or else, break off), & then would he/she have to come daily before the Lord for forgiveness?

I would find that so burdensome & hypocritical, that it could be more than I could bear. And to state, & I believe if I give some opinion/determination on some matter, then I must needs perform it in my life. If I had to face the awful prospect of an unhappy marriage & divorce, would I then be able to practise what I instruct others from the Word? If this happened in my marriage, yes, I would then need to remain single for the rest of my days but I would also know the Spirit's Help & sustaining through it. How important for believers to weigh up every matter in their lives before the Lord before deciding & pursuing it. It is often better to show restraint, than to 'rush the Hand of God' in something we feel is right & from the Lord. I guess, 'easier said than done'. May He give us more of His Grace.

Greetings, NO there is no Hercules in the Bible. That was a Greek myth of when the gods came down from heaven and found mortal woman beautiful and married them. (shades of Genesis 6?) Hercules would have been only half human.

Samson however was in the Bible and he had extraordinary strength. He was a judge in Israel in the time before Israel had kings.

Judges 14:1 records the start of the exploits of Samson and tells of his victory and failures.

Is there a Hercules in the bible?

Chris, thank you so much for your perspective. I guess I'm still on the fence with this one. My understanding is that God hates divorce. Therefore, it should be avoided at all costs. You touch on some key things, and I think forgiveness is most important. I think of so many different variables when it comes to divorce, and then about the one thing where God allows it and I guess that is why in my mind I am not fully persuaded yet about remarriage. I don't disagree with anything you are saying. I mean, how could I disagree, if I can't even agree with myself yet! I understood your dots. As soon as I saw the word fornication, the Greek word popped in my mind. I've actually learned to read Koine Greek over the years. I do have a copy of the Textus Receptus, which I enjoy reading from on occasion.

I agree with most of your comment. God hates divorce. Joseph considered to put Mary away privately. To do otherwise she would be stoned for the sin of uncleaness.

Lately I have heard more stories about women and their children being beaten bad enough to be hospitalized; rape; incest. Husbands leaving for another man. No. I do not believe God wants a woman to endure that kind of abuse. Nor do I believe she should forfeit her whole life because of a bad marriage.

I do agree that people get married without even knowing that person. They bring all this misery on themselves. They believe Hollywood over real life. Premarital counseling needs to become popular again; if not taught in High School.

Ditto with reading the Bible. Bible was kicked out of public school in 1962. We are reaping the harvest now. Or should I say whirlwind? Our present culture is wide screen, living color, representation of a life lived without Gods love.

We need more mercy in helping these people. Where the heck was the Church in 1962 ? I was 11 and I remember saying the Lords prayer and pledge of allegiance to the FLAG every morning. Kids nowadays have nothing to guide them in public school.

Pray about these things. If the Holy Spirit does not confirm, then so be it.

(second comment).

So how does God treat such sin? My sense in this is that He treats it as any other sin. Is one sin greater than another, considering that even the 'smallest' sin of impatience or bending the truth, makes us sinners & disqualifies us from Heaven? But thanks be to Him, for His forgiveness to us for ALL our sins. Then if one chooses to remarry while the other spouse is still alive (& enter into an adulterous relationship with another), then God would forgive, but He only knows what the may be the consequence of that decision & relationship.

Please note: my dots shown in my first comment represent Greek words for fornication & adultery, which this Site's checker deems are Words not allowed. But they are different words that are use to describe the different relationships in different settings.

Jesse, I agree that Daniel has not clarified whether a formal divorce from his wife is in place. I assume that there is at least a permanent separation (it has been a year since this took place). So I suggested that mediation & reconciliation be attempted in the first instance, if it is separation that has occurred.

If a divorce, then I understand that both parties are to remain unmarried because of one of God's bases of creation ( Mt 19:3-9) & therefore God doesn't recognize divorce, as both man & wife are one unit (= one flesh) before Him & divorce will break that union ( Lk 16:18). That is, the first marriage is still valid & a divorce makes it adultery. The only way a marriage can be broken is because of the death of one spouse.

Then the matter: what if the man didn't want a divorce, but the wife left him? Or, he had to leave her because of her fornication? For the first question, we're talking about divorce, where the implication is that, even if the man didn't want it, he would still need to give his assent to it, or else divorce cannot legally occur. Even in this instance, the man would need to remain unmarried (or vice versa if it was the wife that didn't want a divorce). Or (2nd question), if for her fornication ( Mt 5:32;15:19) : the word used is '.....' = sex prior to the marriage (i.e. if that act was committed before the lawful marriage to the man); e.g. ( Mt 1:19); Joseph considered 'unhitching' from Mary because of her supposd infidelity ('.....'). Whereas the word '.....' = adulterous relationship is within the bonds of wedlock. Any union with another after the first union has been recognized & consummated, is regarded as divorce, which God does not recognize. (see following comment).

We're not under the law. Find proof in Matthew chapter 5. Jesus was teaching that some basic principals were still in force.

If either one is cheating sexually then grounds for divorce are established. Men are not held less accountable.

If the man is violently beating his wife she can leave the marriage. Christians are called to be at PEACE. Also, as much as is possible be at peace with everyone.

If a legal separation or divorce results, the Bible mentions a time for reconciliation. Ecclesiastes...rend and mend.

If divorce happens and no reconciliation, The mother of the children is best off raising her kids alone till they're of majority. Don't tell the kids "who caused the divorce"; it only causes problems. Keep it secret.

If she remarries she needs to NOT ALLOW the stepfather to act as if the children are biologically his. It causes problems. If kids need correction, then the mother administers it. Husband supports her decisions. Kids are geniuses at playing insecure parents against each other.

If you can't accomplish that, then ladies do not marry again till kids are launched.

I may not be Dr Phil but this way WORKS. We are Christians. Dr Phil ministers the world principals, to the world. Worldly people are clueless about Gods Word.

Hi Chris,

Daniel does not say if this was a separation or a divorce. But if it were a divorce, and it was for the cause of fornication on the wife's part, would he be free to marry then? I know she would not be, but what about him? Your thoughts, please!

Daniel, I'm sad to hear of your unhappy situation & I assume there is no possibility of reconciliation even getting the help of the Church to mediate for both of you?

Scripture is clear on this subject, that once a marriage takes place & then a divorce or permanent separation occurs, then neither of them can re-marry & must remain unmarried. The reason for this is that God recognizes marriage as binding & if a couple separate, they are still bound to God's Law. (see Mk 10:6-12). I appreciate that this is a very difficult situation & many people including Christians, put aside God's requirements to satisfy their need for love & companionship. As an elder, your position in this matter & responsibility in the Church is very important, not only for your obedience to God, but for an example to your congregation. They would know your situation & maybe your difficulty in remaining alone & looking after two sons but they will also be watching your life & the decisions you make. God will give you His Strength & His Companionship as you honour Him in your obedience.

We quarrelled with my wife for the last 10 years

After she left and now it's one year.

I have two sons left with me.

Am an elder church ,.

My question is that, canine marry another wife?

1 Cor. 7:14 has caused a lot of debate because many believe the word sanctified means salvation, that if one member of the family is saved, then the other members are saved also. It doesn't mean that. What Paul is saying is that if a non-believer is pleased to dwell with the believer, that person will be living under the influence of the Holy Spirit in the believer's life.

I'll give you the literal translation about children. It says else were your children, but it is literally else are your children unclean; but now they are holy. It doesn't say they are clean. They're still unclean. The word holy is the same word for sanctification. Both words mean set apart. They're unclean but they are set apart to be under the Lord's influence in the life of the believer.

If you follow the Lord and the non-believer says it doesn't bother me any, that non-believer is set apart to be under the influence of Christ in your life. But they still need to be saved. They still need to receive Christ.

Nancy, the apostle Paul in 1 Cor 7, is speaking to the Church on marriage & in the event that the marriage goes sour, how should the Christian wife or husband behave. To state, the Lord doesn't recognize or approve of divorce, but Paul says that, sometimes the spouses need to split (maybe because one rejects or abuses the other, or is unfaithful). And of course, they then need to remain unmarried for the rest of their lives. However, if the husband is pleased to keep the marriage going & the wife is happy with that arrangement, then vv 13,14: "the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the (believing) wife (& vice versa)". So what Paul is intimating here, is that the believing spouse in the marriage will be a testimony to the other spouse of godly things, will be able to pray for him/her, or make the Word of God real to him/her in practical ways. So the children from that wedlock may also be taught in the faith. So we see, that marriage is a holy union & all options used to save it.

What does Paul mean in 1 Corinthians 7,4 if 1 of the parents is Holly than the other partner is Holly and also their children?

Was salmon be that one of the men visited to zaricho and hide themselves in the house of rehab

To Deanna: we are all commanded to love one another. "A new commandment I give unto you, That you love one another; as I have always loved you, that ye also love one another.
An example of this Jesus kind of love is seen in Acts chapter 2:42-47. People were going house to house, sharing meals, searching the Word... they were excited, turned on for God. Wish I was there today :)

Isn't there somewhere in the Bible that says we each have our own personal guardian angel? The only place I can find that would come close to a personal guardian angel would be in Matthew 18:10. I was raised Southern Baptist but later became Independent Baptist and was always taught that as a young girl.

Can you plz elaborate on a question I have? I know the Holy Bible says the 5th Commandment is to honor your mother and your father, now is there ever a time when a parent should reverse that? Should a mother have to prove her love and devotion to her child?

Easter is a pagan name for Ishtar which means Queen of Heaven.

That's 3 names right there and none have anything to do with PASSOVER.

It's also the day that Jesus was resurrected from the tomb. He was seen walking around by hundreds of people. He had fish & chips with his disciples. Later they watched him rise towards heaven.

People do easter and halloween so their children can grow up confused and hopped up on sugar! Can't you stream Ten Commandments for them?

1 Corinthian chapter 7:15 "But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases: But God has called us to peace"
Does it mean that a brother or sister can remarry if their unbelieving wife or husbands departs?

1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. It explains itself very clearly.

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Marriage is a life long obligation. marriage is a divine institution. Christ is the groom and the church the bride. With this in mind it is easier to understand the will of our God in the Christ Paul speaks by the authority given and provided by the holy spirit. We too through faith, can learn patience and grow in love with one another, asking God in Prayer for his support in all these things.

Clearer explanation of 1 Corinth 6:9, 10 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Then lists the fornicators sexually immoral , idolater, adulterers, effeminate male prostitutes , abusers of themselves with mankind homosexual offenders , 10. The thieves, covetous the greedy , drunkards, revilers slanderers , extortioners swindlers . . .

Fornication in verse 2- do you believe fornication is sexual intercourse outside of marriage? Does it include all sexual activity even kissing is considered sexual by some or just intercourse?

Hallelujah Amen. So many people are content with the devil running their lives, that sin is bliss. No morals, no conscience, no consequences, no remorse. Without "JESUS...NO LIFE"