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I think that this scripture is very comforting, but I also believe that we are going to go through some really hard times before Christ returns. I don\'t think that just because we have sat on the pews all these years it guarrentees you an exit from tribulations. Are we more special than those in the bible? They were beaten, saw in half, put in prison, beheaded for believing in Jesus what makes you think you gonna have it so easy?
Garyloyd, blessings and peace be with you! You've clearly read His Word. I'm not a bible scholar or anything, but my understanding is that The word Rapture doesn't even exist in the original Hebrew or Greek manuscripts of the bible, so I'd be very careful about the rapture nonesense because man can dangerously make void the Word of God. Thank God for His precious letter to us to prepare ourselves for what's to come and for Spiritual Dicsernment! There really is no room for ignorance here, we cannot afford it since our very souls literally depend on it.
Chris you will be here. But this is where we will all be,earth. Jesus is headed here at the 7th trump but first there is a tribulation for 5 months. Satans evil spirit will be strong for 2 and a half months setting up things in a one world system, controlling things and setting things up. Then the Nations come together in a treaty of some kind, peace most likely, but one of the big shots, political, or a ruler of a country pulls out and it looks grim, the deadly wound is healed by this one that shows up and with his powers that he shows the whole world people think he is a god. All the churches, christian,muslim, and all the rest, a great falling away to chase this man who they think is there god, not our God. We wait for the true Lord Jesus, our true husband with our Gospel Armor on. That's why I worry about the fly away doctrine, people being told they don't have to read Revelation because " we will all be gone!" I heard that garbage growing up but then I learned the word and found out that in Daniel the vile one takes over in peace and flatteries and God shorten the time to a 5 month period in Revelation 9 for the elect sake. The deeds/program or what will occur in the seals will still be the same. So, why are they flying? This man of sin who is playing an acting role of trying to be Jesus and being a man of peace? Even thoe he is death and wants your soul to died. This man of death sits on the throne and wants Mother, Father,Sister,Brother, anyone who is one of the elect that will not bow down to him to be delivered up by their family member to him which is to say death who is the devil antichrist which translated is instead of Christ. It is written, and woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days. What is being said is them that married, jump in the sack with the wrong husband or whored and married the devil and when they see the true Christ and Husband come they hide their faces in shame and wish the rocks would falls on them because they don't want to face Our Lord Jesus because they went chasing or running with the devil, like a whore. To give suck means to help work the system of satans one world system. Don't buy or sell nothing. Have at least 3 months of food on hand when you see the season. I almost make it a habbit when summer draws near. The Locust come May through Sept and its a good chance that it will happen in that time frame. But just watch and pray fro guidance and study the word.
Anyone that reads anyones fly away rapture doctrine needs to go back and read Ezekiel 13 in the real King James Bible and not an N.I.V. Bible. God dedicated a whole chapter on not being ignorant of following people who think they can somehow create their own salvation and he hates the fly away to save your own soul teachers. It came about in 1830 from a woman Margert Mcdonald who started that garbage but acturally as you read the scriptures you learn that Satan will be telling them fly away people the same lie and they will all gather with him in Babylon meaning confusion. Have a nice flight just watch out for the hail storm I heard from the scriptures it will be hailing 180 lb. rocks of ice that day on take off.
Dear Garyloyd, we love you in the Lord, and you need to know that Christ returns in the air to meet the Church. We have been called out of darkness into his marvelous light, and the dead in Christ will rise first. At the voice of the Arc-angel, and the last trump Christ will descend from heaven to catch the Church away in the clouds. Rev. 3:10 Tells us because you kept the word of my patience I will keep you from the hour of trial, and temptation that will come upon the world. The Church does not go through the tribulation, and after seven years will the Lord Jesus Christ return with the Church Rev.19:11 to set up his kingdom. We are to comfort one another with the words of the rapture of the Church, and pray for the peace of Israel for they will go through the tribulation. It is called the time of Jacob's trouble. Israel will return to the Lord, and say blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Study Hosea 6:2 and it will tell you how the Lord will revive them after two days. Remember a day with God is a thousand years. So we are now at the beginning of the third day. Jesus will be coming soon, and make sure you keep your garments clean for Christ is coming back for a pure and holy bride. The Church is the bride of Christ, and there is going to be a great meeting in the air of all those who have placed their faith in the Lord Jesus, and been baptized in the Holy Spirit. I pray that you will be in that meeting in the air to meet the Lord in the clouds.
The thing to realize is verse 13 is the subject and that is "asleep" or where are the dead. They are alive with Christ and will be returning with Him at the 7th Trump. The trump og God is the last Trump. Paul wrote in colloquial greek or and spoke in it and about 8 other languages. He was a very educated person. Most of his writting were done with them that were with him because he was half blind but at the end of his books you will notice that he signs off himself and mentions that he signs off large writting. In Hebrew 12:1 you notice this colloquial greek when he is speaking of a great crowd of people and says great cloud of witnesses which is the same cloud in 1 Thess 4 16,17. All are changed at the same time in a twinkle of an eye at the 7th Trump when Christ returns to set His Kingdom up.
I came here to see if anyone had made comments on "the rapture" which is often taught using this scripture though it is false doctrine, and was brought to tears of joy to see that some had properly recieved Pauls intentions in writing this letter. Though we are told that "the whole world will whore" after the anti-christ, who comes claiming to be Christ and claiming to save us by flying us all out of here, it lifts my spirits to see that the truth is still being brought to the world for those, whomsoever, that will recieve it.
Hi, It is awesome to know that my Grandma will be taken before us who are alive to glory afterwards then the antichrist will appear Thank You God Bless You, James.T.
A shout-A shout of joy
Voice of an archangel-A voice of a victorious warrior; for there are principalities in the air that must make way.
Trumpet of God-Symbol of authority as handed over from God:the father Himself,
and proclamation of awakening to the righteous souls whether dead or alive.
The Apostle Paul's words, under the influence of the Holy Spirit, and in regard to the translation were meant to be a comfort to all believers.
Paul wanted to remove any confusion or doubts regarding the destiny of believers who had died. Upon death, the believer is escorted by angels to the third Heaven. When God the Father tells his son, Jesus Christ, to remove his body, the church or those redeemed and alive on earth, those believers who have died will rise first. That is, their bodies. Their souls will accompany Jesus Christ when it is time for the church or body of Christ to be removed.
Those believers who are alive, literally are transformed or translated once the dead in Christ rise first.
With ressurected bodies, we then follow Jesus Christ, in the clouds, in the air to the Judgement Seat. Somewhere in this universe or possibly in another dimension.
Those were the words of comfort to believers. The hope we have, whether physically dead or alive.
Finally, since sin is dead to the extent of penalty, our works will be the issue. Not to determine status as "sons", but to determine the extent of our blessings in eternity.
concerning 666,if you read it states the number of the beast IN YOUR FOREHEAD...NOT ON YOUR FOREHEAD..you can be tattoo head to toe but its your mind that except the number which is antichrist which is satan,there will be no heads cut off,he wouldnt be acting like christ then would he,christ saves not distroys,if you in a church that teaches that,id get out sap.the dead in christ are already risen,if you dont beleive that then how you beleive christ rose is what pauls saying,when you die ur body,not soul is in ground you go directly to go wehtere you want to or not ,hope you want to if you aint here to stand against antichrist,we need all we can cause we are the winners already.read thess.4 the whole chapter,its such a blessing to have a god like we have,be strong ask him he will lead and guide u if you are truthful from the heart.god bless hope this helps you on 666...go to arnoldmurray.com ask for free cd on the mark of the beast,it will help you so much....good luck jesus will never forsake or leave its his promise.
The word "Church" translates "set apart or set aside ones" or one person is one temple and one of a many membered body of Christ. The Elect are the Church. Its not a building or a group of people calling themselves, church. When you study the word ask God to lead you with His Holy Spirit to guide you in the word,I do, and you will know if you are chosen because you will understand and well, you will just know. It will all come together as one big letter of understanding and You won't be fooled with fly away doctrine and the rest of the junk out there that people pull a verse here or there to make up some lie like flying away or send your money in for your prayers to be answered or some other trick that will heal you or save you or bless you from some healing potion that have made to make money. If you get shepherds chapel on t.v. that's a good start. God has a plan that is going to save His children that love Him. There is some of the elect that will stand at the time against antichrist and we are to blank our minds and the spirit will speak through us in every language so all will know the message of the LORD. Love the LORD with all your heart and you will be fine. God love His children.
Its in the forehead, anyone that has not the plan of God inside their mind has the mark of the beast and can be deceived. First warning in Matt,luke,Mark, combinded they teach the truth and the seals in Revelation, first seal,satan is coming with a fake crown and bow and the Gospels are this, don't be decieved by Man 666 antichrist he is coming as antichrist first antichrist translates " instead of christ". God loves His children. 2 witneses come first to preach and if the world don't like them it will show you to listen. Then the one world system will start to form, looking close but a money change takes place, a one world money, and the 10 kings of the flesh, leaders set the system up and then in 2 and a half months one of the leaders pull out, called a deadly wound, then satan shows saying he is every bodies god, peace and flatteries, opposit of wars and rumore of war which is peace, and with signs and wonders because he is supernatural everyone that's christian chases after him,and the rest of the world see him as their god, if they don't know God`s plan so turn away. For 2 and a half months don't nurse the system along and don't bow down to any man that says he is Christ, just wait for the true Christ. Buy food and pay your rent and bills up,If you obtain a Companion Bible by E.W. Bullinger from Shepherd`s Chapel and the tapes/C.D.`s get Revelation,Daniel, you can go on the web or write box 416 Gravette AR.72736 you can learn the truth and then when you go to church you will know how to test the fruit. Once you know the key no one can take it from you and you will stand. When you realize its not the Christ, turn away because as long as your in the flesh you can be saved.
I've been visiting a church that believes that the dead in Christ will rise first and anyone that is left will either take the mark of the beast,"666", or have the will be beheaded. This contradicts what I was taught from the church I'm a member of. I would like others input on this.
Yea, First Thessalonians 4:13. And 14 is speaking of where are the dead or asleep. Asleep to us but rose as Christ did. Not in the ground but will return with Christ. And in vs. 15 the word prevent can be translated and means precede. Sayin, those that are alive cannote precede them that are passed on and dead because they are already there and coming with Him on the 7th Trump and vs. 16 is the 7th Trump. The dead are there already. Vs.17 is Paul speaking in colloquial Greek........." Cloud" means large group. Paul utilized this word in Hebrew 12:1 and the word "air" means breath,or spirit. Wait for the true Christ and we will be changed into spiritual bodies. Don't fall away in the new one world religion coming to worship a fake who says he`s jesus and he will fly you away to heaven because ron is right heaven is where God is and after Jesus flattens Jerusalem He will be here on earth.
this is not a rapture,and it says to be with the lord ever more,heaven will be here on on earth,and this is not all shown,it says at the LAST TRUMP,FUTHER ONE OUT.read rev. THE WHOLE WORLD BECOMES OUR LORDS..DOESNT SAY SKY IT SAY AIR.THIS MEANS BREATH OF LIFE.READ ALL THIS CHAPTER NOT JUST 2 VERSES.if you are rapture and sinners are left behind,then why jesus die on the cross?what make you better?we all fallen through the grace of god we are saved.there is no rapture,gods comming here,where you going?the word rapture is never mention once ,. god says in ezekeil,he hates those who teach his souls to fly...thats what our father thinks of the rapture....ezekiel13;20.all rapture ist need to read this.god bless all.may he open the eyes of the lost.
Chapter4 in the book of Thessalonians is all about the rapture.When the Lord comes back in the air we will be caught up to meet him.And so shall we ever be with him.He gives us this promise.
Verse 16.The king james version translated rapturo to caught up. And in verse 18 the good book tells us to comfort one another with this information, that is very comforting to know that we have lived our trial and in the day of tribulation we shall go to be with the lord and not have to suffer that hour of tribulation.
Verse 16 is the Rapture. This is not the second coming of Christ. In the second coming, Jesus comes to the earth. In the Rapture, he comes as far as the clouds which is what happens in verse 16.
Voice of an archangel-A voice of a victorious warrior; for there are principalities in the air that must make way.
Trumpet of God-Symbol of authority as handed over from God:the father Himself,
and proclamation of awakening to the righteous souls whether dead or alive.
Paul wanted to remove any confusion or doubts regarding the destiny of believers who had died. Upon death, the believer is escorted by angels to the third Heaven. When God the Father tells his son, Jesus Christ, to remove his body, the church or those redeemed and alive on earth, those believers who have died will rise first. That is, their bodies. Their souls will accompany Jesus Christ when it is time for the church or body of Christ to be removed.
Those believers who are alive, literally are transformed or translated once the dead in Christ rise first.
With ressurected bodies, we then follow Jesus Christ, in the clouds, in the air to the Judgement Seat. Somewhere in this universe or possibly in another dimension.
Those were the words of comfort to believers. The hope we have, whether physically dead or alive.
Finally, since sin is dead to the extent of penalty, our works will be the issue. Not to determine status as "sons", but to determine the extent of our blessings in eternity.