1 Timothy Chapter 3 Discussion Page 3

Today l a wake to know these times we are in should be lived fully day to day. So much unrest and danger surrounds us now. Warnings in the Bible tell us what to look out for. Covid going strong and people living in uneasy times. But our Father in Heaven has told us to turn to Him and His Son in times of trouble. Not the world of evilness. The Bright Light

Shining before us. His Strength and Love will carry us to the end. Stay on your knees!!!

Prayerfully request Biblical instruction and the will of God, that sanctions, or not, whether women can become ordained pastors, ministers, preachers...

Thank you....

I stayed up most of last night, being led through BIBLE SCRIPTURES, that back up what the teacher is teaching. It is painstakingly slow, And biblically SOUND.

I would not have even listened to it if it didn't have scriptural foundation. The teacher uses the Hebrew to explain the events that happened. I do not know why I had NEVER heard this expanded teaching before, at church, but I have now. I still have 3 hours to listen to!

Here are some scripture passages you'll want to mark for that study. At one point I just began to write all over the page margins :/

This may interest you to listen to it on YouTube later.

Genesis 1, Job 1:8, restoration of earth in Genesis,

Jeremiah 4;23-28

Jeremiah 4:26 Gods anger

Isaiah 24:1 Is pre-Adam; God turned earth upside down,

Job 9:1-9 earth frozen ball of ice

Revelation ch 6

Job 38. Science has proved the Bible is accurate;

Deu. 32:4 Gods work is perfect

Isa 45:18

Eccl. 3:11

Psalm 18:30

Genesis verses 6-9 restoration not creation

Genesis 1-2 earth not 6 thousand years old; it's billions, what science proved.

I had all the prophetic scriptures boxed; I just didn't know how the fit in. When it says former inhabitants and people's, those are the 1/3 angels that followed Lucifer.

Isaiah 14:17 20 spoken by demons to Lucifer

Satan was in hell when Adam was created. He was turned into a snake. Was in the garden Ezekiel 28:13

Ezekiel 28: 1-19 Lucifer>Satan

Lucifer went from Archangel/ covering Cherub. God>Holy Spirit>Jesus>Lucifer

4th in line to the throne. Isa.14:12

YouTube. WAR IN THE HEAVENLIES, by Benny Hinn. 5 hour teaching

Why do we need to put this together so we can understand it?? Because people ask questions. And..,it's very important to Satan. We need to know HOW he came to be loose on the earth; after Adam and after Jesus'S death on the Cross.

For myself and you, we have a responsibility to piece this together as it really happened.

Maxine I believe this is what you are referring to: Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Well it doesn't actually say that particularly but in 2 Tim 3:1-5 tells us that "...in the last days perilous times shall come." And people will be doing wrong as if it were a good thing. So hopefully that helps you some.

Maxine, I can't think of any verse to show this phrase applying to the latter days that you mention. However, you may be familiar with the OT verses that speak of this: Isaiah 5:20, Proverbs 17:15.

where in the Bible does it say that in the end days "Good shall be seen as bad and bad as good"

I've done street ministry with women and men. Sometimes the women want a female street minister to talk to or be ministered to.

As I am fond of saying: God will use a donkey to speak if there is no one else to speak for Him.

There's this lady I met at church who has a real prophetic gift. Iverna Tompkins. You should have a listen on YouTube. I'm afraid she's passed on, but wow can she preach.

Because the Bible has no contradictions, it must be accepted in its entirety. Problems arise when people begin to inject their "knowledge" and "beliefs" into Church doctrine. For instance, I have read people saying that Timothy's position was based on how women were treated at the time. "Why, that is down-right sexist!" you might say. And you may be right. But the truth be told, your position is irrelevant and something you could correct God on when you see Him.

There is also another argument I have heard. And that is "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit." - 1 Corinthians 12:23. That verse is used to justify equality between men and women and therefore allowing women to preach. If one truly has the Spirit, one would understand the relationship between men and women and inherently know that they are not called upon to teach in church.

Let us pray that the Holy Ghost gives us wisdom to address the issue of women preachers and keeping silent. God himself set the relationship model in Gen 3:16 when unto the woman he said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." When would you then think that He would then allow women to preach to men? When Jesus chose the 12 Apostles, how many were women? Timothy, when laying out the structure of the Church was quite clear in the leadership roles. 3:1 - This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop. Likewise, in 3:12 " Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife". Timothy then expounds on these concepts by describing the personality characteristics of men and women in which he clearly identifies the role of each. Finally, Timothy writes in 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?). Paul, in 1 Corinthians 12 talks about the diversity of gifts. He specifically mentions men. He concludes in 12:28 that God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. No where does Paul mention women. He does mention women in Titus 2:3/4 - The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children.

In Ephesians 6:11 it reads: "In whom we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will. God counsel himself. The only other beings present at man's creation were angels. "Hear O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD." Deuteronomy 6:4.

Genesis 1:26 and 11:17. God spoke:

LET US

Either he was talking to himself or.....

He was speaking to the Word

Speaking to the Holy Spirit

You wrote all that untruth for what?

I just read your comment. God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world and received into glory. God did this all by Himself. God was manifest( made visible in the flesh of Jesus Christ). He is the Father of creation, the Son ( his flesh) in redemption; and the Holy Ghost in the church. The idea of a triune Godhead is not found in the Bible. Read Isaiah 9:6; Isaiah 43:10-13; St. John 1:1-14; St. John 17:6; St. John 8:21-24; St. John 14:9-10; Luke 24:44; Colossians 1: 13-16; Hebrew 1:1-4; I John 1:1-3; Revelation 1:13-20; Revelation chapter 5. These are only a few of the scripture that validate the Oneness of God. God has many names and many attributes. He appeared in many theophanic forms in the Bible. But His greatest revelation to man was as the Man Christ Jesus. Jesus is His Saving Name. Jesus is God. God is Jesus. From Genesis to Revelation, there has only been one God, One Spirit, and One Savior. Ephesians 4:4-5 tells us that there is one Lord, one faith, and one baptism. One God and Father of all...God does not have three personalities in His head. God is our savior; and He loved us so much that He was willing to die for us and rise again for our salvation. What an awesome God that we serve!

I love you and shared some of these inspirations on fb with your name on them . to help some one that may need to read them. some of them helped me. and made me think

For today is never promised. Challenges come out of the blue. Faith in your Holy God that gives you your strength to fight against the evilness of this world- is never far from you. His Light surrounds you with his Protection. Oh Mighty God- that can move all the mountains- is by your side. Unknown territories face you- but the strength of God leads you safely through it. Blessed Be the Lord!

What is this world coming too? Evilness all around. How do you protect yourself? The Almighty God !! His Light of Strength is so close now!! Ask for HIs Strength- Love- Care where ever you walk Or drive today. Keep His Light over you. The Holy spirit intune with you! Day to Day always walk that way. Sure as a mountain. Unmoveable no matter what comes your way! Know God is in control in you!!

Have you ever asked yourself what Life is suppose to be about? Do you show Love to orhers? Your Father in Heaven sacrificed His Son to Suffer for our Sins on this Earth- so at the ending of our Life we will be able to come straight to the Throne! Works- Prayer- Faith- and much Love everywhere you go. That shows Jesus's Love and Compassion- Given by His Father because of His Love for You!! LOVE!!

Are you improving your life or disgrading your life? God wants the Best for You! Are you honoring His Will? Don't feel sorry for yourself- go and take a challenge that you can control and do!! Watch God's Light give you the Strength to go into the unknown- you never believed you could do. Don't let yourself down. Achieve it! Watch the effect of it on your mind and body. Than go again. Success!!!

When things look the lowest- change opposite what would help you with strength- for doing God's Will. Go after now! Don't go lower- than you are stepping in Satan's world. Ask God for guideness toward what He wants in your Life. Fight to regain it! God is right next to you: all you do is change one thing and start climbing that mountain! Challenge yourself- be proud you are chosen by your Father!!

Does anyone see changes coming fast in this world now? Stores going crazy with building up all of a sudden. No matter where you go they are building and changing. In the Bible it reads how cold hearted everyone will be. How powerful stores, churches, and restaurants, are to get. What happened to yester year? Can never go back. God is warning His people. Every where you go now-' Keep God Close!

Some days l awake and wonder what this day will bring. I slow down to moving like a snail. Trying to put my day together l forget there is a God l should go to each morning when l rise- and Thank Him first. Than ask Him to Guide me through out my day. There l feel His Strength go thru me and my mind starts gathering up speed to move me. Knowing the Light is around me- l search for the needy:

Life is so Short. Do others see how Special Life is. That you are here right now- but in a twinkle of an eye could be taken away. Everyday is Precious that you can go to and fro doing your daily chores. Do you ever just stop and look around? Just watch others that God created as you. I do! I get lost in time just watching how others live- as l do. Than l Thank my Heavenly Father for that moment!!

This World belongs to our Father in Heaven. He created it from the start-- Satan took it away from What He wanted it to be. Oh, why can't others see. Some do- but do not know they can fight in God's Light and turn it the opposite of the World's way of thinking.God is our Rock! He Loves us enough that His Only Begotten Son suffered so we could come to His Father in the ending of our Life. SO FIGHT!

I woke up this cold morning thanking God- for when l rise l have another day to do His Will. Challenges- l will give myself to others less fortunate. Our Heavenly Father watches over us as we do His Works unto His creations. By Faith and Strength He will challenge us to see if we are capable to handle His Will- as His Son Jesus did for us. The World's Ways no more!! Only God will lead me today!!

My writings are inspirations from the Lord- what He had me go through in all my Life. Always alone- l fought for the answers- Why? Now in the days we are in- l know. I have to let others see the wisdom and knowledge l have from those times- is not from the Evilness of the world- but from the Holy Light of His Love for us. Fighting for our Salvation in the Ending of Times. He is all Mighty God!!!

To help others before yourself is a great gift from God to understand Him. Helps are giving yourself as Jesus did for us. Challenging yourself for anything God puts in front of you. Getting out of your rot of self and complaining.Sound familiar? Well- do something about it this holiday season. Open your eyes and Love God for for putting you into a situation you had to use God's Love! Understand!

God is close to us now.Time on this earth is going too fast. People building- running to and fro. Not stopping to see what is around. Seems to me the evilness has everyone where he wants them. But wait- God's people are being called to fight the evilness in our Heavenly Father's Name. We are the Light shining from Him. Do not forget what He has done for us. Lets go out- for others- not Self!!

you are not alone in observing how the days are ripping by.... jesus said less those days had not been shorten No flesh would be saved.... I wondered how that would come about myself, and i believe the faster the time goes by the faster we are getting to the Day Of The LORD.... so yeah, days have been shortened... Be Well

Hi Cameron Woman can Teach Children and other Woman Tit4:3-5 also share God's Truth with Men Deb4 to 5 Correct error with His Truth but we are not to be in Authority over Men in Church a3nd Speak meaning Teach or Preach 1Cor14:34-37 -61Tim2:11-12 Husbands have Authority in Marriage and they are to Love us as Christ Loves His Church a Woman who feels greatly Loved will have no problem submitting.

True Ruben Woman can Teach Children and Woman Tit4:3-5 share God's Truth with Men Deb4 to 5 and Correct error with His Truth But we are not to be in Authority over Men in Church and Speak meaning Teach or Preach1Cor14:34-37 -1Tim2:11-12 Husbands have Authority in Marriage Col3:18-19 if asked to do something wrong we don't Our Husbands are to Love us as Christ Loves His Church Eph5:22-28 - Annie.