2 Corinthians Chapter 7 Discussion

Are we all forgiven yet blinded from our sinful nature of birth (Adams sin and Satan's temptive joy). Belief that Christ Jesus came to earth to forgive them all, All sin All sinners, might I add all that can, we the people created by the hands of God and the dust. God achieved this from the beginning and through his perfect ensample (example), offering life forgiveness from death of earthly life and his death resurrection. Earthly pain earthly sarrows earthly wrongs. God is good and we should love to be good as well. Amen? Yes, Amen

We always are subject unto those things that question God. It is our nature!

We overcome these things in and through the holy spirit.

Christ died for these sins that go before us and follow after!

We should always be confident that what Jesus has done is sufficient to forgive us of these sins. There are no specific sins that keep us from the frustration of the Holy Spirit. Sin is who we are. Jesus calls us evil! Imagine that!

There is nothing we can do to change this condition, but believe that Jesus death and ressurection cleanses us from all sin. That we are reconciled unto God through the shed blood of Christ! Praise Him, sing unto Him! He loves you!

When you Back up to 2 Corinthians 6:15 where God asks you what part is there to the believer with an unbeliever ?

It should explain His promise to you, and how He will be your God and ye His people, and how to receive this promise, and it's not by the building with the temple of idols.

He goes on to say come out come out of the midst of them(unbelievers), and be ye separate.

And will be for a Father to you, and ye shall be to Him for sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all pollution of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

We should all know this promise, and remind Him of it,,, He wants us to.

Naz,

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I think that's the most startling thing that a believer can find out, and especially with the way people present salvation today, they say "Hey, do you want to go to heaven and have your sins forgiven? Just pray this prayer." And no one tells them that if indeed you are serious, and if indeed you really did get saved, that God's Spirit has come to dwell in you and you've been set apart for Him. You're not your own anymore!

People aren't told that. They are not told that you've been set apart, and that your biggest struggle is going to be thinking that you can go back to living and approaching life like you did before you were saved. No, you've been set apart for Christ. Love not the world, neither the things in the world. Be separate and come out from among them. Be not unequally yoked together.



And so we are to cleanse ourselves and do this in the perfecting of sanctification, maturing in the lifestyle of sanctification, drawing closer to Christ. And notice the basis for this. It says in the fear of God. That's a healthy reverence for God. And just in our own human, we naturally do not fear God. And if we do respect Him, we fear people more than we do God.

Sometimes we know that we are disobeying God, but we also know that He's a gracious God and He will forgive us, and people won't. So, we compromise our walk with Christ and then we ask God for forgiveness because we know He will forgive.

I hope this helps you!

Hello Naz Williams,

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Paul starts off 2 Corinthians by saying "having therefore these promises." What promises? These are promises at the end of Chapter 6. We see in Leviticus 26:12, Isaiah 52:11, and 2 Samuel 7:14, that the promise that God said I will come and I will dwell in you, and I will be your Father, and you will be my children. I will be your God and you will be my people.

Having these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit.

Now these are not technical terms (flesh and spirit). He's talking about realm. Don't pollute by getting involved in the spiritual forces of darkness. There's a spiritual influence over you, and don't get involved in those physical human fleshly things that war against the things of Christ. Let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness, that is, contamination of flesh and spirit.

Secondly: perfecting holiness in the fear of God. The word holiness is the word sanctification. He says you've been sanctified. You've been set apart for Christ. And we keep trying in the human social to cross the line and be socially joined and get our social needs met.

But at the same time, Paul is saying that you cannot compromise your walk with the Lord by getting involved in situations and with people that are going to influence your relationship with Christ and affect your effectiveness in your walk with Christ.

So, he says the key here is you've been set apart. God has set you apart. His promise is that He's going to be with you and dwell with you. And He is going to be your God and you are going to be His people. Therefore, perfect, (mature) the sanctification. We are sanctified the very moment that God's Spirit comes into our spirit. In 1 Thessalonians, Paul told the Christians in Thessalonica to walk in your sanctification.

Yes, I enjoyed reading the commentary on 2Cor. 7. Can you speak and explain filthiness of the spirit more for me please?

Amen, David

God made it extremely clear, that the evening and the morning were the first day. There should be no kind of confusion except for only those who are genuinely blinded and do not believe. I state this under God's authority... 2 Corinthians 4:4 "In whom the god of this world (Satan) has blinded the minds of them which believe not, or risk the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them." Satan does not want to chance that the light of Christ should shine on you, and lead you to ALL truth.

My GOD is an awesome GOD, and HE reigns from the heavens above. If HE can create Adam and Eve as adults why should there be a problem with a 24 hour day. My GOD is capable and able to do exactly as given in the BIBLE. HE spoke and it was so.

I choose to believe in the creation account as given by GOD in HIS Scripture. Everyone has to make their own choice or choices. May the LORD be praised and magnified as we bring our prayers and supplication to HIM regarding our present situation. Rising gas/oil, food, prices, pending war, social unrest, and spiritual and political leadership that needs to get back to leading.

These are just my thoughts, may the LORD bless all on this forum, and grant us peace and comfort in HIS Name.

JUne 8, 2022

You are so correct I battle with a certain sin and sometimes I go years staying away but at a certain point find myself giving in I don't want to fall anymore I love God and I want to show him I love him by the way I live and not sin!

Alex, this blessed me just now. Thank you so much!

Amen Mountain Preacher GBU . But many times i think of that scripture. The spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made us Free from that law of sin and death . And if be lifted up i will draw ALL MEN UNTO ME.

Alex: Every child of God has a sin that they struggle with. They find themselves tempted by this sin over and over again. Occasionally they will fall into this sin out of spiritual weakness or even depression. They hate this sin and when they find themselves doing it they are reminded by the Holy Spirit just how ungodly they have been. However they must go to God and ask forgiveness again in order to restore the fellowship with Jesus Christ although they don't feel worthy to do so.

Godly sorrow leads to repentance it says, so you will not commit that sin again because you know it is wrong OK , but what if you are tempted to commit it again does that mean you did not repent of it? Or what if you did not hate it even though you knew it to be sinful and still did not repeat the sin, did you still repent of it..

Brian, first of all, there is only one earth. God created the earth with a Purpose and that Purpose is Christ ( Col 1:16). Everything happened here. With respect to the days of creation, St. Augustine and many of the Church Fathers questioned whether the 6 Days of Creation were literal 24 hour days. In Genesis 2:5-9, for example, tells us plants and trees took time to grow. God, we are also told, planted a garden in Eden. The implication is that planting, watering and cultivating a garden takes time. So the question is, do we do Scripture justice by insisting that God created everything in 6 literal days?

The Days of Genesis are probably more than likely periods time, phases of development, stages. This is not a new thought. What has confused many is the fear of accepting that the word 'Day' is not literal. Many Christians fear God will not be happy with them and think admitting it is tantamount to denying the infallibility of Scripture.

But take a peek at Hebrews 3-4. There Paul explicitly tells us that we are still in the 7th Day of God's Rest. And that Day will come to an end at the coming of Christ. So, if the 7th Day can be 6,000 years old, why can't the 1st Day be as long? Now, St. Augustine believed God created us imperfect (able to die, experience pain and suffer). We were supposed, he said, to work our way into Paradise. But when man disobeyed, he failed to perform the works that would lead him to Paradise.

What I want everyone to think about is that God created everything that exists, not for its own enjoyment or road to Paradise. God created for Christ to enter creation to eradicate, annihilate, destroy and put an end to corruption (physical, moral, spiritual), pain, suffering, evil, death and to establish eternal perfection in all things God creates. That is why God stopped creating on the 7th Day, to resume creating a new earth and universe, after His Purpose for this existence is accomplished in Christ, who is the Tree of Life.

In the beginning ... God created Heaven and Earth.

Could this also mean that the earth is millions or even billions of years old?

Then we see the creation of 6 days and He rested on the 7th. day.

Could this also be the creation of Paradise in which still exists today, but not on this wicked planet in which Satan is the god of? Because an Angel was station at the entrance to prevent anyone from entering. After the death and resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, the veil was torn open and we now have access to the throne of God and Paradise is now open for the saints and for those who hath been redeemed. The TREE OF LIFE is still in the midst.

Is it possible that the first man Adam failed because of deception and the second man Jesus Christ was tempted just like Adam... but he defeated the accuser.

I say this because Jesus said to the man on the cross.. today... you will be with me in Paradise.

Then the graves were open and the saints who had died were now resurrected into Paradise.

I hope and pray that someone could help me or prove me wrong.

Because if Cain killed his brother Abel and he was to leave home, He went to the land of Nod, where he met his wife. This was after Adam and Eve were removed from Paradise and brought down to this OLD EARTH. Could there be 2 earths... One that is billions of years old and the other in which God created in 6 days.

In the Beginning, God Created the Heavens and the Earth. In it, He placed a Garden. In it, He also placed Adam and Eve. And God declared everything He created, Perfect.

1. Why didn't the Garden cover all of the earth?

2. What is the meaning or definition of a Perfect Garden?

3. How do weeds grow in a Perfect Garden?

4. How Perfect were the people God created and placed in the Garden?

5. What are the flaws of Perfection?

6. If Adam and Eve were Perfect, how was it possible for them to disobey God?

7. Where did God go wrong with creation?

Acts Chapter 2.

JESUS SAID - Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

The top and bottom line is this: God has promised eternal life to the righteous. Let us cleanse ourselves from all unrighteousness and filthiness of the flesh and spirit. Let us walk in the light, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. Jesus is the light of the world.

godly sorrow produces change, worldly sorrow does not and that's why it leads to death-v.10

Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for your grace peace your everlasting love the comforter thank you for the blood that washes me Oooh father thank you for every blessings that you have bestowed upon my life though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I fair nothing as you are with me thank you for your goiding wounded hands father I lift up your name on high

Sorrow is a necessary part of repentance. Because when we are rebuked by God we mourne or are made sorry about our sin which saves us. Because salvation is of the LORD. And He who hath begun(born again or new birth) a good work in you shall perform it until the day of Jesus Christ. God has saved us from the penalty of our sin. He is now saving us from the power of our sin. Finally from its presenc

Amen.

2 Corinthians 7:8 For though I made you sorry with a letter, I do not repent, though I did repent: for I perceive that the same epistle hath made you sorry, though it were but for a season. In this letter, Paul never repented of sin, Paul repented of his way. In all 12 Paul's epistles, Paul never uses repentance as the final step to salvation. Repentance is change of way.

Saved only:When you are called: John 6:44,Forgiving: 1John 1:9, Baptized with The Holy Ghost and Fire: Matthew 3:11, Changed: 2Corinthians 5:17 You will know! Impossible not to know.

I think Godly sorrow and repentance are the only way can be saved

Ronnie: The spirit referred to here in 'the filthiness of the spirit' is the part of the soul called the 'heart' which we use to feel, not our 'spirit man' which is sealed by the Holyspirit when we are born again. Notice how this spirit heart of the soul is used interchangably together in these verses: Isa 65:14, Ps 51:17, 34:18, 51:10, Eze 36:26, etc

I think sorrow is not part of repentance but it can lead to repentance. What do you think?

Repent ! Knowing that u did something wrong recognizing it and repenting from it . For God knows ur heart. Applying his word to you.