2 Thessalonians Chapter 2 Discussion Page 13

Antichrist comes in peace and flatteries as Daniel 8 23,24,25 and throughout Daniel and Rev. Tells us he comes with power looks like the Lamb but speaks like the dragon, disguised as antichrist which means translated instead of Christ. He will be telling people follow me and I will fly you away. He wants company in the lake of flyers.

Larry there is no rapture in the Bible. In fact Ezekiel 13 18 to 25 says God hates preacher 's who teach his children to fly to save there souls. Scriptures says All will change to spirit bodies at the same time, the 7th trump. First Thessalonians 4 is speaking, subject in verse 13th verse, where are the dead letting us know they are with Christ and will return with Him at the 7th trump. Clouds is street Greek for crowd and air is the breath of life God blew into us and we will return to our spirit bodies at that last trump. If the elect are here to the end with gospel armor on to fight, these fighting are, the set aside ones, the true Church in the scriptures,how could any one escape the test God 's children are to go through.

There is only one son of perdition. Reason, only one person has been sentenced to die. Ezekiel 28 18,19. Every other person has to wait until the great white throne judgment. Satan is death and when he sits in the temple claiming to be Christ come as antichrist mothers,fathers,sister,brother will turn their family members over to death because they think it 's the real Jesus. That 's scripture.

People 's Bible Notes confirmed my first inclination. Anyone can be the son of perdition. The whole world will be tried and tested. The son of perdition will be revealed in this testing.

This tells us up to verse 8 that Satan as antichrist sets in the temple and that there is a falling away, meaning, your religions or your belief, all the world religions become one under the false prophet, and then in verse 8 and then you will see The True Christ come. That 's why it says that the antichrist looks like the Lamb but speaks like a dragon because he is the dragon who is looking and acting like the Lamb of God. Comes on a white horse in Rev. 6.2 just like Jesus only his crown is fake an bow is an imitation but it looks real enough cause the world loves this fake who can bring lightning from the sky.

There are lots of lies going around that people believe. The Word of God must be the Standard of Truth. The passage says that, "the mystery of iniquity doth already abound.. " vs. 7 but later says that, "...because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth. " vs. 13 God doesn 't have to send someone strong delusion if they already believe a lie. Take them to the Book! Make them prove it to you but be sensitive to the Spirit so you know when you have been wrong.

2 Thessalonians Chapter 2 verse 6. Is it possible that this verse is referring to the Dome of the Rock, in that this is a great hinderance to the Roman Catholic Church in the unification of Muslim and Christian Religions. At present the unification of protestant and Catholic religions is taking place. But for the Catholic Church to have a great influence with the Jewish people and to rebuild the temple the Dome of the Rock is the stumbling block that restrains the World Religious and Political Order.

The son of perdition is the pope because no man can forgive sin but GOD himself.Therefore we see today that the pope is exalted more than GOD.The word that he will bring forth is deceitfulness and a lie.God will make the followers beleive that lie.We know that GOD has chosen us and that we must continually thank him for choosing us.We as true beleivers must stand fast and obey the commandements of GOD.Once we are obedient to GOD the devil will have no chance of getting into your life.

The anti christ will take power soon after the rapture of the church. The Holy Spirit is in control until He be taken out of the way. Once He is taken out of the way things really go south. That 's when the 7 year tribulation begins and 7 years later Christ return with His saints to take over this ungodly world and He and His saints will rule with a rod of iron for one thousand years.

Let no man deceive you by any means for that day shall come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition ......Fellow Christians are we being decieved? My father and my Aunt do not believe in a pretrib rapture but my mother does....so I decided that I wanted God to show me the truth....If we pay attention to what is being said "Let no one deceive you for the day of the Lord shall come until there is a falling away the apostasy of the church and the man of sin the son of perdition is revealed Anti Christ "....It says that the Lord will not come until after these events and do not let any man deceive you!!!

I believe the church will be rapture and will escape the tribulation so when it talks about the falling away could it be it is referring of the Jewish people that will be saved during the middle of the tribulation just a taught

THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY IS ALREADY HERE FROM THE FIRST CENTURY AS JOHN SAYS IN 1 JOHN CHAPTER 2 BUT WHAT IS HOLDING SATAN TO BRING IN COMMAND OF THE WORLD HIS REPRESENTATIVE IS THE PRESENCE OF THE CHURCH AND THE HOLY SPIRIT VERY SOON RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE AND THEN THE ANTICHRIST WILL BE PRESENTED AS SAVIOR OF THE WORLD ECONOMICAL SITUATION AND MANY WILL BELIEVE IN HIM AS JESUS CHRIST THIS IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND BELIEVE

The church has been the restraining power of evil The church has resisted the devil that is why satan can t carry out his wickedness the way he wills So until the church be taken away raptured the wicked man can t be revealed

Satan is the man of sin that take his seat in the temple which is the local church.

the delusion will be aliens... be careful the aliens are the fallen demons and satan

God has enlightened me on this line of scripture. It will be aliens and the secrets that we are uncovering about old civilizations have been set up by satan so that in the end times these things will be found to dispute creation

Humankind is not perfect and Christians are still imperfect people. So, naturally Christian churches will interpret things differently and will easily get off base. Always go back to the Bible to see if someone is on track or not. We need to follow God's word above anything else.

Chapter 2 of Thessalonians concerns itself with the Antichrist being revealed. Someone may be keeping his identity hidden because that person is being restrained by the Antichrist from letting the truth be known. Eventually, the person will let the truth be known.

Question: Why would the Holy Spirit withhold the "Wicked" one from being revealed? This conclusion is illogical and does not hold up to scripture.
The Wicked One wants to remain a mystery until the last possible moment. To say that the Holy Spirit is restraining or withholding the revelation of the Wicked One is nothing less than blasphemy, yet, this doctrine is widely taught in the churches.

There is a principle at work in this passage. The principle is that where ever the Spirit of the Lord is, sin, the evil one, nor his evil can invade. That principle has been in place from the beginning. When evil tried to invade heaven it was evacuated by the power of a Holy God who's Holiness would not give place to it; not even for a moment. 2 Corinthians 3:17 says, "Now the Lord is that Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty". This is understood in the first part of the verse: "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work." 1 John 4:3b says that "...that spirit of Antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is in the world". So then, he that keeps back the forces of evil that dwell in the antichrist personality is the believer in whom the Holy Spirit dwells.

the word Antichrist in the greek is instead of.so he is going to stand in the temple of God pretending to be Jesus. and he is no one else but the devil himself and he comes at the six trumpet and the real Jesus comes at the sevent, do not been decive.

the apostacy can be found in daniel as well when one of the two kings will invade the holy land and exalt himself above every god. you can also look at hebrews 6 which i percieve might be what happens to this man. because if he falls away he must first be standing in the faith. daniel says that the little horn will throw some stars from heaven to the ground and this p***age i thessalonians speaks of signs with all power. scripture tells us that these signs will be so great that the satrs of heaven can be called down as well as fire from God found in job that is powerful enough to burn up men and sheep. so what to do...pray that you can escape these things and always stand firm and hold to the sommands of Jesus

The mystery of of lawlessness is already at work, and will get worse as the time of the end comes. Just as the birth pains of a woman in labor intensifies as she becomes closer to birth, so it will be. There are many antichrist, but the Holy Spirit will continue to restrain evil, until God the Father takes Him out of the way. Then the Antichrist, the man of sin, will be revealed, who will be the son of perdition. So the apostasy comes first, then the gathering of the Saints in the air with the Lord Jesus Christ. Then the lawless one, the idle shepherd will be revealed. Watch and pray that you will be counted worthy to escape these things, for God will send strong delusion to those who miss the gathering of the Saints in the air, and they will believe the lie of the Antichrist by receiving the mark of the beast 666. Rev. 3:10 Jesus promises to keep the Church from the hour of temptation that shall try all those who take pleasure in godlessness. Repentance toward God, and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ will save you.

Believe the gospel message of JESUS CHRIST and love the truth that you must be saved by him to have eternal life. He will save your life here too on earth and you will be able to accomplish the purpose and plan he has for your existence. Repent and be the truth.

I’m with you Cheryl Lynn,
God’s real kids will be removed because the Holy Spirit lives in us and we will need to be out of the world so that we are not praying and trusting God here any more! Then the wicked ones will have to go through it all and be destroyed with Satan and his angels. We will see who stands up and says he is God. But we know better off, and Our redeemer will call us away! Thank You Jesus!!

The falling away, called the apostasy, comes before the translation of the Church to Heaven. Enoch was taken by God from the flood, and he had a son, whose name meant when he dies it shall come, meaning the flood would come after his death. The Anti Christ cannot come, until the Church has been translated. The Holy Spirit is holding him back from being revealed.

@Scarlett,
It just takes to click on verse 3 itself, and when the verse is opened in a new window or tab opening the verse alone, you will find it as it has been rendered in other English versions.
God bless you.

In short it is plain as day. Verses 7 and 8, the spirit of God will leave free hand to the antichrist his short time, then the antichrist is taken out of the way by the Coming of the Lord Jesus! Amen.

I would catch that nor by letter from us. Paul had sent the first letter to the Thessalonians and even they couldn't understand the subject matter was "where are the dead" or at least the people reading it on down the line. Our preachers pick up on it and think they are all gone and flown away but this letter here sets it straight with how it will be when Christ returns. First warning to the first Seal "Let know man deceive you". Satan comes first and the stupid will have a great big church following their little prince little rock. Not our ROCK. When Our Rock we waited for comes, HE comes in war against them that love theirs instead of Christ, antichrist because they love death, the son of perdition and they even turn their children and relatives over to him. But even though you turn us in we won't bow down to him because we know he is a fake. Learn the seals and know the truth. You think you are going to fly, .. you are going to die. Today on the History Channel on T.V., they have a story that is so fake with 3 religions telling people Jesus comes and then Satan and they are going separate the good who love Jesus and the bad will follow Satan. Man, are they teaching people a lie that will lead many into hell. Satan comes first and that is a falling away which is all the churches falling away from their religion and joining a new religion they think is lead by Christ but it is the antichrist who is a fake.

We should feel free to give always. God gives us freely.