Acts Chapter 2 Discussion Page 3

It's amazing, the Christian world ignores Acts 2, especially the thirty eighth verse.

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." This verse is self explanatory!! Repent, be baptized in Jesus name for the REMISSION OF YOUR SINS and you (everybody) will receive the Holy Ghost.So why does most of the Christian world ignore Acts 2:38? This is the instructions to obtain salvation.The Church began on that day, the day of Pentecost.THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH began on that day in Acts, which is the only church Jesus died and bled for! Most of the Christian world seems to admit repentance is necessary for salvation. But they seem to believe baptism is ONLY symbolic and has no real impact on salvation. Yes baptism is symbolic, just as Jesus is the symbolic sacrificial lamb who was slain on Calvary for our sins!! Paul explains the importance of baptism in Romans chapter 6. Baptism is necessary for salvation.

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him (Jesus) by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk--- in newness of life.What is that

"newness of life"? Its remission of sins! When our sins are remitted, they are gone and forgiven. But their our sins are only remitted if baptism is done in Jesus name after repentance. And Paul explains why baptism is necessary in Romans 6.

The New Wine is the Holy Spirit. There is no beverage on this Earth that can compare to what Jesus blesses His Children with.

Testimony:

I was at Church on a Tuesday night, in corporate intercessory prayer. There were about 70 people there. The Pastor taught a short sermonette. Then the Holy Spirit must've given him a Word of Knowledge.

His whole demeanor changed: he said there are those of you that have promised things you cannot deliver, ever. There are those of you hurt by false hopes.

We're all sitting in our seats in shock. That had to be most everybody there. Pastor said to come to the front to be prayed for.

We're all looking around at each other to see who's going to get up first. Finally one guy stands up and almost runs to the front. I'm in line about 10 back.

Pastor was just standing on stage. WELL... the Holy Spirit was standing 10 feet from the stairs.

People were to go forward, have hands laid on, and go down the back stairs back to their seats. When I was a few feet up on the stage, me and everybody else went down in a heap.

We were what is called, "SLAIN in the Spirit". I could not stand up. I tried. No one could. Then we began to laugh. We were being healed of false promises. It was like we were all drunk and couldn't stand up.

I looked over the lights to see there were many people still sitting in the pews who DID NOT go to the front to be healed. I just thought Why would they not run to Jesus for healing, filling up on the Joy of the Holy Spirit? The Living Water.

When you experience total healing and receive THE JOY (oil) of the Holy Spirit, you get drunk on the New Wine. God knows when we need a Fill Up. It was wonderful.

There was a guy who went to my church who wrote a song about this. Listen on YouTube and get happy. The Well by Carman. Listen to 'Yahweh' and 'Sunday's on the Way', while you are there. 'I Got The Joy' if you're brave' :D

He died a few months ago & is with Jesus now.

M.

Acts 2:13 says the disciples were mocked and suggests that they were drunk on new wine. Is new wine fermented, or is it still just fresh juice from grapes that would be drank in the early part of the day? If not fermented, were the disciples being mocked for their exuberance?

Luke 17:26

Hi Mary.

Matthew 24:36-39 (KJV) But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Luke 17:26-27 (KJV) And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

God bless you,

I hope that helps.

Matthew 24:37-39.

Where in the KJV Bible does it say that in the end times, it will be like the times of Noah?

I just checked and anyone with a cell phone or computer can Google free online Bible to read or download, in Over 400 languages. Including Middle East countries.

We are so blessed that all people's of most every country, can see that Jesus is returning soon.

Let everyone that has breath, praise the Lord!

If you want a small Bible (the book) you can find them at Dollar Tree for $1. It's likely you can find them at 2nd hand stores for less, or free through churches or various charities if the need is genuine.

the easiest for me was to download the KJV as an app on my phone, and now I can access it wherever I go.

yes I agree great idea, a couple years ago as I was reading James chapter two this verse stuck out, and since then I've been handing out a bible with a gift certificate enough for a meal or two, to a local restaurant.

James 2:16, "And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?"

Hi mishael ,thats a fab idea ! It had never occured to me to carry a spare Bible in case i meet some one who needs one ,thankyou for that tip ! I shall do it .

Of course there is always Amazon or any Walmart. Open the Bible and see what version of Bible it is, before you buy it.

Goodwill and Salvation Army stores have low cost Bibles. Be patient and the KJV Bible will be on a shelf next time you pass by. Many churches have Pew copies they can give you, if you have no money. Ask God to put one in your hand, and then see how Faithful and True he is.

This is a call to some of us here, to carry an extra Bible in our car, or backpacks.

For people in need of a Bible, or a Bible in the language of your country:

Call. 1-800-700-7000

I give, so that all those in need can get a Bible, and in their language. May God bless you for the hunger in your heart and soul.

Mishael

Hi Christine.

Any book store, certainly a bible book store. or order online.

Isaiah 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

Ezekiel 33:31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.

Matthew 15:7 Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you

James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

( 1 John 3:18-19 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before Him.

Yes only ONE GOD .

It's so simple that many can't believe it . They need to make it so complicated, and we know confusion is of the Devil .

God is light not confusion.

The purpose of confusion is to distract away from the truth , that will lead you to more truth etc . That's why the spirit of error is on going . One step in the wrong direction and ten yrs later or less you are shipwrecked .

Amen! Lord says he is God alone! There is no one with him in the Godhead! He says he knows not any:

Isaiah

40: 25

41: 4

42: 8

43: 10, 11,

44: 6, 8, 24

45: 5, 6, 14, 18, 21, 22

46: 5, 9

48: 12

Chris,

I do concur that both eras have ended, apostolic and prophetic. We both know that there are groups that claim there are both prophets and apostles in existence today.

I myself know that can't be so. If I recall, without looking it up in the scripture, so please don't quote me on this, but the qualifications of an apostle was that he had to be there from the time of John's baptism, had to be chosen by Christ, and also had to be an eyewitness to the resurrection of Jesus Christ. No one alive today can meet those qualifications.

And yes, we have the complete word of God in written form. The book of Revelation was the final prophecy given to us.

Personally, when I hear of a "prophet" today, and there are many who claim to be, I am not even interested in what they have to say. I am very cautious.

I know that God does not give new revelation or new prophecy. If He did, it would have to be added to the Bible, and we are given a stern warning about adding.

If God gives a so called "prophet" today a new revelation, it must be added to the scripture because if God gave it, it's His word.

But those who profess to be prophets, they won't go that far as to add it. Why not? Well, I think we know the answer to that!

Thanks Chris, always a pleasure to hear from you. The Lord is good!

Hi Jesse. It's good to catch up with you after such a long spell. I have heard about this re-defining of a modern day prophet: no more of a foreteller but a 'forthteller' of God's Word. I must confess, that I've always had difficulty in accepting this definition as it seems to be one of convenience so that Ephesians 4:11-13 might be 'better understood'.

Paul gives us a list (maybe not intended to be comprehensive) of those specially equipped by the Spirit "for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ". And I note that the position of the Elders & Deacons (1 Timothy chap 3) are excluded from the list, indicating that their appointments were based on other criteria & not as a Spirit-enabled (but Spirit-led) provision.

Looking at Paul's list, the apostolic era was well & truly over (by the 1st Century) & could it also be the same with the prophetical era as God's Word was finally completed at the revelation given to John? So, the work of the Evangelist still goes on (& not referring to a believer's personal witness to someone), as also does the work of a Pastor & Teacher. I realize that there have been many 'prophets' over the centuries & even in recent times, but I always question their materiel & how accurate their prophecies have been. I'm inclined to think rather negatively about such claims, especially from their recent dismal showing.

So I tend to believe that the work of the Elder or Teacher of the Word is sufficient to fulfil the role of 'forthteller', in wisdom sharing what the Spirit desires to be taught to God's children.

Carleton,

I am not sure I understand what you are asking me?

Hi again Jesse. I am glad that Linda helped in this. It was was I also meant the other day when we wrote back and forth. God bless His ways in these simple vessels. My just posted question, I wish now I had included as a question, that when time ends after the seventh Angel sounds his trumpet, so does the ability to change anything more. What do you think?

Carleton

Linda,

I spent a couple of days reading scripture about prophets and prophecy and I may have come to a different conclusion and answer about modern-day prophets. You say you believe there are modern-day prophets. At first, I said I didn't believe that. But now, I think you may be correct. However, a prophet today has a different function than the prophets of old.

The word prophecy comes from the word prophet that just means to be a spokesperson for God, not on your own, but rather to speak God's word. The prophets of old, they would foretell. They would tell about the future.

But the prophets of the New Testament, especially around the time of John in the mid 90's A.D., it wasn't foretelling, it was forth-telling, telling forth the word of God, taking the book, and ministering the word of God.

So a prophet today would have a different function than the prophets of old. The book of Revelation is God's final prophecy given to man. It is His final message to the church before He comes back. There are no new prophecies after the book of Revelation. So a prophet today would be a person who takes God's written word and speaks forth the things that are already written.

So by a modern-day prophet, if you are referring to one who speaks forth the written word of God, I would agree to that. But if we are saying that a prophet today is someone who receives a new revelation or new prophecy from God, I would not be able to agree with that.

I now have a different view about "modern-day prophets" and I want to thank you for leading me to do a little more research on the subject.

God Bless!

Revelation 2:11-16 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Revelation 2:18-23 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

Should say Father God.

Why you still stuck......REVELATION......where are you going

Jeremiah 4:4 Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.

Jeremiah 4:13-14 Behold, He shall come up as clouds, and his chariots shall be as a whirlwind: his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled.

O Jerusalem, wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved. How long shall thy vain thoughts lodge within thee?

Thank you Jesse, well you may have a Gospel twin that I have not seen in thirty+ years in the state north of here.

God bless your time and instructions.

Carleton

Carleton,

We do live in the same state, you being in the north end, me in the south, but I promise you that was not me!!!

Carleton,

Encouraging/building each other up is what it's about. You share things that are uplifting, and you do it with so few words. In fact, your short reply touched me in a very special way. It brought a tear to my eye where you said "I am weak no doubt," referring to yourself.

I think that brought some conviction to my own heart in that I don't confess that enough. I do thank you for that. Although that may not have been your intent, I believe the Lord works that way. I believe that's how he uses us.

Did you know that is when we are at the strongest point in our relationship with Christ; is when we confess our weakness before Him? He has a way of bringing us to that point!

My thoughts on what happens when the Church is lifted up are that we'll be part of the wedding feast taking place in heaven while the world is in chaos. I shared on here about a year ago the actual 7 steps of a Jewish wedding. These 7 steps parallel the events spoken of in Matthew Chapters 24 and 25.

Here are the steps of a Jewish wedding:

1) The groom barters with the father of the bride.

2) If the bride approves of the wedding, she drinks from the Covenant Cup.

3) The groom goes back to his father's house to build their living quarters.

4) The Father of the Groom decides when the living quarters are done. It can take a minimum of one year and a maximum of two years. The Groom can go get his bride when his father decides it is time.

5) When the marriage announcement is made, the people who have been invited to the wedding feast take positions along the parade route. They join the parade as it passes by.

6) When the groom reaches the bride's house, he stands at a distance and blows the shofar for the bride to come out to meet him. The wedding takes place at this time.

7) The parade goes back to the groom's house and the wedding feast begins. All of the guests in the parade gather in the Fellowship Hall and the door is shut.

I can expound, but I'm sure you'll make the connection!

Hello again Jesse, as I said you got me thinking. Have you ever bought oranges for making juice for donation purposes? You seem very familiar to me.

Carleton