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My take on that is this. when you die your soul goes to be with the Lore, " to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
Your body is in the ground, i believe since the body belongs to a saved person, it leaves first, the dead in Christ rise first, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up with them in the clouds.. I think the Lord want the bodies of the saved believers out of this world before the Antichrist takes over. I think he will put the molecules back together and match it back to the soul.
Wisemen still seek him - In Reply on Acts 8 - 2 years ago
Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever , where is that verse in Book of Hebrews Im sure . So he walked the earth as a man and must still be one . although glorified .
The believers that has departed the Earth prior to Christ coming is with the Lord.
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
2 Corinthians 5:8.
Philippians 1:23.
The Lord will bring them, and those raptured at his second coming.
Right after the marriage supper of the Lamb we are presented with Christ's "VISIBLE" return to this earth to execute judgment, put down evil, and set up His kingdom. He returns "with his saints.
1 Thessalonians 3:13.
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
The first coming of Christ was his ministry IN THE FLESH, three and a half years, on earth in the flesh.
His SECOND COMING is SPIRIT, you cannot see SPIRIT, it comes like a thief in the night.
At pentecost Christ POURED OUT his Spirit on mankind.
Christ, in the form of the Holy Ghost, now lives inside you, you are the BODY OF GOD, Christ is THE LIFE in YOU.
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ....Christ in you ......
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (Christ in you) that WORKETH IN YOU (the body) both TO WILL and TO DO HIS (the life's) good pleasure.
PROPHECY:
Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my Spirit (life and truth) within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgements, and DO THEM.
I would to know concerning the rapture,at the coming of Jesus those who have fallen in jesus will rised first and those who are believers still alive will be caught with Him in the air. My question is,where is the resting place for the believers who have departed this earth?
Ezekiel 27 & 28 describes the King of Tyre as making himself a "god" and was called a "cherub" and referenced "Eden, the garden of God" This Cherub was "perfect" in beauty, faultless in his ways from creation onward until unrighteousness was found in him. Ez 27:3, 28:12,15
Isaiah 42:12 Reference the God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Joseph, David, Josiah, Ezekiel, John the Baptist, Jesus, the Apostles, etc. This Almighty God of Israel is the creator of all living things. In Psalms 83:18 he is called Jehovah God.
If you look in one of the earliest King James Bible of 1611 you'll see that name. Most modern translations have removed that name and substituted it with Lord claiming since the original pronunciation was lost it makes sense to remove it as if the Almighty doesn't exist. Also the divine name Jehovah or Adhonai or Elohim in some translation appears in the Tetragrammaton close to 7000 times so removing the name removes the knowledge and understanding of the Almighty and creates confusion. He just wasn't a tribal God in Isaiah 54:5 it says "....He will be called the God of the whole earth." Psalm 124:8 Jehovah is called the maker of heaven and earth.
Jesus who was a Jew also recognized the God of Israel as being Jehovah or Yahweh. Remember the Jewish clergy during the time of Jesus wanted to bring charges against Jesus in order to put him to death for blashemy so any of worship or acknowledgement he gave to any other god would have given them this opportunity. Plus Genesis 17:1, Isaiah 45:18, Psalm 83:18 refers to Jehovah God being one God. Deuteronomy 6:4,5 also call Jehovah one Jehovah. This is in harmony with Mark 12:29, Romans 3:29-30, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Ephesians 4:4-6, 1 Timothy 2:5 all these scriptures refer to one God.
For Jesus to believe in multiple gods or a triune god would be paramount to apostasy for a Jew and thus grounds for death. Also Roman Zeus was a triune god and existed during this time.
That is a very telling portion of Scripture, again showing that water baptism is simply one's visible act of identification with the crucified risen Christ & not necessarily an evidence of saving faith. One would always rejoice in another's baptism testimony but only the Lord knows & judges the heart.
Simon appeared as one saved, as the Scriptures indicate, but he had other plans that were not consistent with his salvation experience: he wanted to continue his profession, no more in sorcery, but in using the "power of God" which seemed much greater than he had before, to earn him bigger bucks. So in both ignorance & wickedness he sought to purchase this "power". Peter then withstood him & essentially told him, that if this was his attitude, then his salvation & baptism were not real. And that he was in "the gall of bitterness" suggests that Simon's heart was as gall, which is similar to Hebrews 12:15: "root of bitterness". What was he bitter about? Simon was in the grip of envy, so strong that the envy he should have had for receiving more of Christ, was actually envy for his personal carnal profit. And this proved a heart of bitterness towards those who had what he didn't have.
For any bitterness that you have, you need to deal with that speedily. A bitter spirit against others, for any reason, is like a canker that will continually eat into you, even to the point that you may wonder whether you're actually saved. Bitterness & hatred are close cousins; both are not acceptable by the Lord. You recognized this in you, which is the first step. Then you have to deal with it: seek forgiveness from God & the other person, pray for yourselves - for healing of the mind & spirit, do good things for him/her - cover it with love.
When you know something is wrong (e.g. the violent movie) & refuse to watch it, then you're obeying the Spirit's Word to your heart. If you however, disobey, you will soon get the Spirit's tug to remind you that "Alec, you should know better".
Hi, Alex. The verse says that he was "in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity."
This means that Simon was jealous of the apostles' power to bestow the Holy Spirit by the laying on of hands, and wanted that power for himself and he believed that money could purchase power from God.
Furthermore, Peter also said, "Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God."
Interestingly, in John 13:8 "Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me."
Peter used words similar to Jesus when He sais, concerning Peter, "If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me."
It is not at all clear whether Simon was truly bore again and if he actually did repent and regain fellowship with God.
Your bitterness seems to be about your relationships with family members. Do some self examination. "Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." Psa 139:23-24 (KJV)
I'm having difficulty understanding that on one hand you, "want to watch a movie that has violence, cursing and the like" but on the other hand you "make a deliberate choice not to." I have to tell you that I've actually done things like that and I've paid the price of rebellion against God. "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption." Eph 4:30 (KJV) When we know what is sin and willfully disobey, we grieve the holy Spirit of God. I don't want to do that any more. How 'bout you? Read the whole chapter. Read Ephesians. Get into God's Word every day. It's food for your soul. Read Psalm 19. It ends like this, "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer." You can't really do this when you're filling your head with violence and foul language.
In acts 8 vs 13 it says Then Simon believed and was baptized and continued with Philip and was amazed seeing miracles then drop down to verses 20-23 and Peter tells him he has no part in this ministry he tells him to repent and he is bound by bitterness and iniquity, so does that mean simon was not saved ? What does bound by bitterness mean, I have bitterness i am struggling with because of issues with some family members but i know i am saved acts 5 vs 32 says the spirit is given to those that obey him, is it still obeying for instance if I want to watch a movie that has violence, cursing and the like but i make a deliberate choice not to. Confusing sorry
If we are to receive the Holt Spirit when we are born again why did the people in Samaria not receive Him when Philip baptize them in verse 15 16 and 17 in chapter 8. Not sure why Peter and John had to lay hands on them to receive the Holy Spirit.
I very much agree with your statement. As their is much out there to deceive but God knows everything. As I know the Word of God is in the Bible I believe the Lord want's us to search it out instead of just believing every single word in the book. With my own eyes I have seen things that just don't feel right, things changed through versions, and things removed through versions of the Bible also. This proves the Word of God is not preserved in a book printed by man. The 1611 KJV is the best we have to my knowledge. Love one another my brothers an sisters, repent from sin and bear good fruit to make the Lord happy. Life may not be easy but keep your faith and pray. Our Eternal Father loves you and will not fail you. God bless you all in Jesus Christ!
The hedge that surrounded Job is the True Church, the Bride of Christ. This is a lamb's protection, outside of this Church, the hedge is far more dangerous and leaves for far more influences that can steal and kill the Truth once delivered. Job did not at first understand the quality of that hedge but he learned later the Truth of it. Our righteousness is within the hedge and not of ourselves, if we try to work around this hedge we are poor, blind and naked.
I don't believe God deceives people, but he allows satan to, and for you to deceive yourselves. In the past God used special circumstances to interact someone more than normal too, like hardening Pharaohs heart, like allowing satan to tempt Job, allowing people to not see or understand things unless they genuinely sought the truth. If you look at 2 Thessalonians 2:11 it said God sent them a 'delusion'. It says in verse 9 satan is behind it. How do you know for certain that God didn't just allow satan to do the tempting? He could have easily been the delusion. It doesn't say God 'made' them believe the lie either, it was likely still their own choice. People can often blind themselves by having a hard heart. Jesus said that's why he spoke in parables that way: Matthew 13:13.
So, I provided evidence that is consistent with the rest of scripture that I do not believe God tempts James 1:13 or deceives people, but that for everyone He allows satan to roam and tempt, and in certain circumstances in the Bible he interacted more intimately with people to truly challenge them so that through it God's glory would be revealed.
Revelation says "to him who adds to this book, to him shall be added the plagues written in this book. To him who takes away, his name will be taken out of the book of life.
Now..double check your choice.
Loving the truth has a great reward attached. Gods protection against deception! But if you do not love the truth, God will deceive you. (2 thes.2)
The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).
The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).
You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).
It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what it means to Repent and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).
LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH
Freedomborn*** Grannie Annie. - In Reply on Acts 8 - 5 years ago
Santi I agree Love is an Action not just a Word. God Tests us by giving us Opportunities to walk in The Fruit of The Spirit and when needed gives us His Strength and Longsuffering during the Storms of Life. When we Choose to do Good The Holy Spirit Empowers us to do it putting our Carnal flesh to death as we Aim to be Perfected in God's Love which brings us Close to Him so Satan flees- Bless you.
Freedomborn in Truth....... - In Reply on Acts 8 - 5 years ago
Santi it's not God who Temps us to do evil James13 but we do reap the evil we sow which is God's Loving Discipline to bring us to our Senses and to Heart Repentance. Satan puts us to the test wanting us to reject The Lord and Worship him he uses his followers to hurt and deceive us and to temp us to follow the way of Balaam 2Peter2 God protects our Souls and not one of us will be lost Eternally.
O proud man, know ye not that the Son of God chose ye that ye may live? It is written, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money. Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God. Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
You boasted of your pride to the Son: and falsely confessed his Name: and thought you and thy seed were me. Leaning on thine own understanding, ye glorified thyself and not GOD when reading this Scripture: He was led as a sheep to the slaughter: and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation?
Your body is in the ground, i believe since the body belongs to a saved person, it leaves first, the dead in Christ rise first, then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up with them in the clouds.. I think the Lord want the bodies of the saved believers out of this world before the Antichrist takes over. I think he will put the molecules back together and match it back to the soul.
He is still a full human and fully God in one person. The Holy Spirit is not Jesus, nor is the Spirit the Father, nor is Jesus the Father.
Rather we worship a Godhead of three distinct Persons that are a union in one Being.
The believers that has departed the Earth prior to Christ coming is with the Lord.
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
2 Corinthians 5:8.
Philippians 1:23.
The Lord will bring them, and those raptured at his second coming.
Right after the marriage supper of the Lamb we are presented with Christ's "VISIBLE" return to this earth to execute judgment, put down evil, and set up His kingdom. He returns "with his saints.
1 Thessalonians 3:13.
Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Revelation 1:7.
I hope this helps.
God bless.
Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:5-37, 1Corinthians 15:41-58, 1Thessalonians 4:13-18, Psalms 97:2, Psalms 104:3, Joel 2:1-15, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Matthew 26:62-68, Mark 14:60-65, Revelation 1:7, 2Thessalonians 1:4-12, 2Thessalonians 2:1-17, Revelation 6:9-17, Revelation 7, Revelation 8, note Revelation 8:6 continues on through Revelation 9, & Revelation 10, Revelation 10:6-7, Revelation 14, note Revelation 14:12-20,
Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 20:5, Revelation 20:12-15, Revelation 20, in context &
Revelation 1:5, Colossians 1:18,
Hebrews 6:1-3, Hebrews 11, Revelation 11:15-19, Acts 24:15, Mark 12:26-27, Luke 16:19-31
Hope these are helpful
The first coming of Christ was his ministry IN THE FLESH, three and a half years, on earth in the flesh.
His SECOND COMING is SPIRIT, you cannot see SPIRIT, it comes like a thief in the night.
At pentecost Christ POURED OUT his Spirit on mankind.
Christ, in the form of the Holy Ghost, now lives inside you, you are the BODY OF GOD, Christ is THE LIFE in YOU.
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ....Christ in you ......
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (Christ in you) that WORKETH IN YOU (the body) both TO WILL and TO DO HIS (the life's) good pleasure.
PROPHECY:
Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my Spirit (life and truth) within you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgements, and DO THEM.
God Bless You!
The perfect confession!
Ezekiel 27 & 28 describes the King of Tyre as making himself a "god" and was called a "cherub" and referenced "Eden, the garden of God" This Cherub was "perfect" in beauty, faultless in his ways from creation onward until unrighteousness was found in him. Ez 27:3, 28:12,15
Isaiah 42:12 Reference the God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Joseph, David, Josiah, Ezekiel, John the Baptist, Jesus, the Apostles, etc. This Almighty God of Israel is the creator of all living things. In Psalms 83:18 he is called Jehovah God.
If you look in one of the earliest King James Bible of 1611 you'll see that name. Most modern translations have removed that name and substituted it with Lord claiming since the original pronunciation was lost it makes sense to remove it as if the Almighty doesn't exist. Also the divine name Jehovah or Adhonai or Elohim in some translation appears in the Tetragrammaton close to 7000 times so removing the name removes the knowledge and understanding of the Almighty and creates confusion. He just wasn't a tribal God in Isaiah 54:5 it says "....He will be called the God of the whole earth." Psalm 124:8 Jehovah is called the maker of heaven and earth.
Jesus who was a Jew also recognized the God of Israel as being Jehovah or Yahweh. Remember the Jewish clergy during the time of Jesus wanted to bring charges against Jesus in order to put him to death for blashemy so any of worship or acknowledgement he gave to any other god would have given them this opportunity. Plus Genesis 17:1, Isaiah 45:18, Psalm 83:18 refers to Jehovah God being one God. Deuteronomy 6:4,5 also call Jehovah one Jehovah. This is in harmony with Mark 12:29, Romans 3:29-30, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Ephesians 4:4-6, 1 Timothy 2:5 all these scriptures refer to one God.
For Jesus to believe in multiple gods or a triune god would be paramount to apostasy for a Jew and thus grounds for death. Also Roman Zeus was a triune god and existed during this time.
Simon appeared as one saved, as the Scriptures indicate, but he had other plans that were not consistent with his salvation experience: he wanted to continue his profession, no more in sorcery, but in using the "power of God" which seemed much greater than he had before, to earn him bigger bucks. So in both ignorance & wickedness he sought to purchase this "power". Peter then withstood him & essentially told him, that if this was his attitude, then his salvation & baptism were not real. And that he was in "the gall of bitterness" suggests that Simon's heart was as gall, which is similar to Hebrews 12:15: "root of bitterness". What was he bitter about? Simon was in the grip of envy, so strong that the envy he should have had for receiving more of Christ, was actually envy for his personal carnal profit. And this proved a heart of bitterness towards those who had what he didn't have.
For any bitterness that you have, you need to deal with that speedily. A bitter spirit against others, for any reason, is like a canker that will continually eat into you, even to the point that you may wonder whether you're actually saved. Bitterness & hatred are close cousins; both are not acceptable by the Lord. You recognized this in you, which is the first step. Then you have to deal with it: seek forgiveness from God & the other person, pray for yourselves - for healing of the mind & spirit, do good things for him/her - cover it with love.
When you know something is wrong (e.g. the violent movie) & refuse to watch it, then you're obeying the Spirit's Word to your heart. If you however, disobey, you will soon get the Spirit's tug to remind you that "Alec, you should know better".
This means that Simon was jealous of the apostles' power to bestow the Holy Spirit by the laying on of hands, and wanted that power for himself and he believed that money could purchase power from God.
Furthermore, Peter also said, "Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God."
Interestingly, in John 13:8 "Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me."
Peter used words similar to Jesus when He sais, concerning Peter, "If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me."
It is not at all clear whether Simon was truly bore again and if he actually did repent and regain fellowship with God.
Your bitterness seems to be about your relationships with family members. Do some self examination. "Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting." Psa 139:23-24 (KJV)
I'm having difficulty understanding that on one hand you, "want to watch a movie that has violence, cursing and the like" but on the other hand you "make a deliberate choice not to." I have to tell you that I've actually done things like that and I've paid the price of rebellion against God. "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption." Eph 4:30 (KJV) When we know what is sin and willfully disobey, we grieve the holy Spirit of God. I don't want to do that any more. How 'bout you? Read the whole chapter. Read Ephesians. Get into God's Word every day. It's food for your soul. Read Psalm 19. It ends like this, "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer." You can't really do this when you're filling your head with violence and foul language.
Translated that distance very quickly( instantaneously?) by God?
Similar to the story of Jesus in the boat and storm being translated " immediately" to their destination? John 6:21
Does this answer the Q " How did the animals get to and from Noah's ark during the flood story?
They were translated there by God? Vs they migrated there......how would the kangaroo from Australia
get to and from the ark of Noah if HE didn't do it " immediately" ?
I very much agree with your statement. As their is much out there to deceive but God knows everything. As I know the Word of God is in the Bible I believe the Lord want's us to search it out instead of just believing every single word in the book. With my own eyes I have seen things that just don't feel right, things changed through versions, and things removed through versions of the Bible also. This proves the Word of God is not preserved in a book printed by man. The 1611 KJV is the best we have to my knowledge. Love one another my brothers an sisters, repent from sin and bear good fruit to make the Lord happy. Life may not be easy but keep your faith and pray. Our Eternal Father loves you and will not fail you. God bless you all in Jesus Christ!
I don't believe God deceives people, but he allows satan to, and for you to deceive yourselves. In the past God used special circumstances to interact someone more than normal too, like hardening Pharaohs heart, like allowing satan to tempt Job, allowing people to not see or understand things unless they genuinely sought the truth. If you look at 2 Thessalonians 2:11 it said God sent them a 'delusion'. It says in verse 9 satan is behind it. How do you know for certain that God didn't just allow satan to do the tempting? He could have easily been the delusion. It doesn't say God 'made' them believe the lie either, it was likely still their own choice. People can often blind themselves by having a hard heart. Jesus said that's why he spoke in parables that way: Matthew 13:13.
So, I provided evidence that is consistent with the rest of scripture that I do not believe God tempts James 1:13 or deceives people, but that for everyone He allows satan to roam and tempt, and in certain circumstances in the Bible he interacted more intimately with people to truly challenge them so that through it God's glory would be revealed.
God bless...
The serpent added the word "not".
Revelation says "to him who adds to this book, to him shall be added the plagues written in this book. To him who takes away, his name will be taken out of the book of life.
Now..double check your choice.
Loving the truth has a great reward attached. Gods protection against deception! But if you do not love the truth, God will deceive you. (2 thes.2)
The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20).
The word 'Repent' means a lot more than what people by nature have been conditioned to believe. It is the key principle of all the teachings of Jesus Christ and the axiom (basis) of the Word of God and a prerequisite and primary requirement for the salvation of mankind. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).
For a better understanding and the 'spiritual truth' of what it means to repent, and learn how and by whom mankind has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9) and what people must do to be reunited with the true and living God, we invite you to seek Him according to the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive ( Matthew 7:7; John 14:17).
You need not that any man teach you ( Isaiah 54:13; 6:45; 1 John 2:27), as mankind follows after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9).
It is only by revelation of God that you will come to know the true Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1), and only then will you be able to overcome the spirit of this world ( 1 John 5:4; Rev. 3:21) and learn what it means to Repent and how this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9). It should also be remembered that it is a narrow way that leadeth unto 'Life', and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).
LUKE 15:10. LIKEWISE, I SAY UNTO YOU, THERE IS JOY IN THE PRESENCE OF THE ANGELS OF GOD OVER ONE SINNER THAT REPENTETH