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Aaahahaha well done smiley face , I see what you did there , I asked a very straight forward question and instead of giving me a straight answer you asked me a question smiley face , thank you for making me laugh . It's nice to find a good sense of humour on here .

We've been in the end times for some years now. It only gets worse before the rapture and then 7-year tribulation. (Yes, the early church pre John Darby believed in the rapture...such as Irenaeus and many others who wrote of it).

About the bridegroom during the tribulation...those who know the truth are aware the bridegroom is coming back soon. Will they be ready? Some but not all which is one reason why God will separate the wheat from the tares.

Should people on Earth think that they commit no sin in quarter to be with God because they read their Bible all day long and they go by what the Lord says

I have a lot going on in my life and I have one person that I go and I will try to talk to her and she always says you got to stop being negative you got to stop talking about your problems you got to do like Jesus says and leave them behind is is that right am I allowed to discuss my problems with anyone else I discuss them with God also of course

I'm not sure there would be reason to ask unless we need an understanding of how that works. Which I'll listen to if it can be refuted with the Bible. Sometimes I read doctrines I don't agree with but the person isn't writing out of contempt or to try to indoctrinate me. So, I move on.

I feel if everyone spoke to eachother eye to eye on the deeper matters...there'd be a whole lot less misunderstanding too.

My Dear Brother:

"So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen." Matthew 20:16 KJV

"Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:" Romans 1:6 KJV

Grace and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Hello Suze,

I'm not following the nature of your question. I believe in the Bible which includes 1 Thess 4:17 which shouldn't be a controversial statement among Bible believers. That verse says what it says, leaves very little room for misinterpretation, and I believe what the Bible says over what man says.

Do you believe 1 Thess 4:17?

Streetpreacher:

I had the most amazing experience while reading your response. Actually after I have posted the question, God gave me an answer. I was studying the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven.

What an amazing revelation to feel our King Jesus Christ's powerful WORD.

I have been in the Kingdom of God for quite sometime now. During my studies, I know I still need to know more.

My background with the help of God Almighty gave me more insights to enhance the God given gift of discernment.

Your response somehow unexplainable God given timing. I am a bit unsure about what God is telling me, but I will do as you suggested, for I felt the presence of God with your response.

We do have a living God; and walking in His Spirit I truly wanted to serve The Almighty God for the rest of my life.

Thank you and my prayers are for all saints. I love them all.

Grace and peace from God our Father in Heaven and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Well said. Amen!

Christ is the propitiation for our sins , as Christians we are still humans , made of sinful flesh and we will never be sinless as long as we are alive in this world but our sins are covered by Christ and what he accomplished with his sinless life and willing sacrifice , so even though we are still sinners our sins are blotted out and forgiven by God because we believe in His plan of salvation for us through His sinless Son Jesus Christ the Righteous . Our sins are covered by Christ if we believe in him and He who sent him to us . Hope I've said that clearly for you . Much love in Christ .

Even if someone in discussion were to write in a pre-tribulation thread a comment like, "I don't believe in a rapture, only the 2nd coming but God bless." To me, that's still normal didcussion. I can be offended because others don't believe like me but what we saw this weekend (and are still going to see) in the main Bible discussion tab are/were comments to the effect of: "the rapture/grace by faith/once saved always saved are all lies by the modern church." I'm not sure who the fellow is posting it but he's got a divide on this site with a fellow member who also posts frequently.

We need to stop this quarreling and bring all topics back to the Bible with humilty, sound doctrine, brotherly love and fellowship. Many are posting as if this were Facebook. Do they not realize the comments here are read by the unsaved and newly saved looking for truth? By creating divisions or divisive topics; what's that saying to all the visitors to this site seeking guidance, prayer, healing and an example?

There are plenty of sites to spread religion, discord and have theological arguments...but this isn't one of them.

Thank you for that timely reminder of how we should treat and speak to our fellow Christians . I do get genuinely confused about people who believe we go to heaven and also they believe in the rapture . I don't really understand how people can believe in these two things at the same time . I'm sometimes nervous to ask people about their beliefs because it seems that some people respond a bit aggressively to genuine questions and don't realise that it's a genuine question and take it as an attack , these aggressive attitudes and responses have definately stopped me from asking people genuine questions about their beliefs .

Can I ask you , based on what you just posted about the rapture , do you believe people go to heaven ? If yes , why do you believe that please ?

Hiya Andrew GBU ....Was just reading your post on Jeremiah 1 : 5 ...But I don't think this is prophetic of Jeremiah himself..As Jer. neva did destroy nations and Kingdoms and etc....This Jeremiah 1 : 5 was prophetic of the H.G. the Child of Promise that is gonna rule all nations...Which is the manchild that is gonna be born to the Woman in Rev 12 : 5 that is gonna rule ALL nations.

.....As Jesus said when he the Spirit of truth is come he will reprove the world of sin and judgement and righteousness etc John 16 : 13 kjv ..Which is the H.G. that Child of Promise...As Jeremiah also speaks of Gods battle ax which can only be the H.G. that is gona destroy everything not of faith...Jere. 51 : 20 kjv

.....And also Andrew i think this predestination is Christ the Child of PROMISE...Not man which is born with the stain and the spot of adam which is in rank with Satan....God cd not predistinate Satan which is mans evil adamic nature...Its Christ that is Child of Promise that Jeremiah is prophesing about the manchild that is gonna rule all nations...The H.G.

......She brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule all nations which is the H.G. that Child of Promise... Rev. 12 : 5 kjv

Romans 8 V 29 - 30.

So has God preselected the ones who are to be saved through Christ? Then, what does our faith in Christ Jesus do for us?

This, as I understand, is one of the main differences between Baptist and Presbyterian beliefs.

Hi Roy,

I searched for other red letter KJVs and they didn't have chapter 21 in red either, so maybe who is speaking may not be confirmed it's Jesus? One site said they think it's God the Father? I noticed Rev 21:7 says "I will be his God..."

Please pray for Pueblo co these people are gonna need all the pray they can get they need to softened there hearts and quicken there righteousness they are being easily perswayed by the devil we need Yhvh help please I'm in fear for my 10 yr old son Devon Matthew Duran and father Christopher Joseph Duran Jr were from Pueblo co unfortunately this city has losted it and are easy being puppets to the devil and we need Yhvh help to the fullest this my friends is no joke this city is corrupt and they are defiling themselves but are to blind to see it. We need ur help and alot of pray especially for my baby and his dad I fear for there lives literally please n thnx. God bless

It is more of an observation/question actually. In Chapter 1 vv 8 and 11, we can see that the letters are in red. It's the same "Alpha and Omega" speaking on verse 6 above ( Rev 21:6), why is it not in red letter?

Please pray for Pueblo co these people are gonna need all the pray they can get they need to softened there hearts and quicken there righteousness they are being easily perswayed by the devil we need Yhvh help please I'm in fear for my 10 yr old son Devon Matthew Duran and father Christopher Joseph Duran Jr were from Pueblo co unfortunately this city has losted it and are easy being puppets to the devil and we need Yhvh help to the fullest this my friends is no joke this city is corrupt and they are defiling themselves but are to blind to see it. We need ur help and alot of pray especially for my baby and his dad I fear for there lives literally please n thnx. God bless

Memorize Joel 2 also.

Counsel: if you discern Gods call on your life, you must get into scripture like life depends upon it.

Now, God ANOINTED a shepherd boy (David). Read that. David heard the Philistines taunt against Saul and the men of Israel.

He strode out to the battlefield (a teen-aged boy) with only a sling and 5 stones. Goliath (a giant) died of his brain being caved-in by one stone. David took his head, as was the manner of challenges.

We cannot confirm this or that. If God calls you to Ministry, he will anoint His Word and the messenger. You, must ask the HOLY SPIRIT to teach you.

People in a Bible Comment room cannot do that or replace the Holy Spirits ministry as Teacher. It's your job to faithfully get alone with HIM, and ask Him, to teach you.

Interestingly, after killing Goliath, David went to be Sauls music minister at court. David's life is a study in advances to being Gods anointed King; falling into sin, and repenting of it, and living out the rest of his life.

Isaiah 61 and Luke 4:18. It is the anointing that sets people free.

The baby passed away on 6-4

[ Acts 2:17-20 and,

Matthew Chapter 16:1-4

1 The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came [neither of which, believing in the "caught up in the clouds" ]

Mishael comment: we cannot predict the Rapture, by selected and separated passages. Jesus said ONLY the Father knows. If we understand the procedure of the Bridegrooms father's preparations for a son's wedding to his espoused bride; can we understand the moment the Bridegroom is released to bring the bride to the wedding. This is the focus.

It's not on world wide social and national violence and threats of wars.

We are given many Bible passages (OT and NT) to read the signs and share the acceleration of those signs. We cannot move Gods hand.

We are a generation of watchmen. Watching for what? the approach of enemies. Satan WANTS to deceive, kill, steal and destroy.

To turn our focus TO social violence and freedoms removed; fears we will miss the "rapture of the CHURCH." Memorize Jesus's teaching on the Ten Virgins parable.

The earth, nations and land, will see the beginning of

2 Peter 3__even now.

That's why I've said "the Green Deal" is the ONE WORLD RELIGION" that will unite unbelieving people on earth.

Gods promise to people is that those who trust implicitly in Him; will see the total restoration of Earth, by God the Creator (no others).

Sad to say this, but E. Musk cannot save earth, nor plant colonies of people on Mars. He is not a believer. Pray for him.

THE Bible provides signs and events that will occur. They do not predict timing. Gods timing is not like man's.

The Thief comes not at noonday. He comes in the blackness of night. Sin thinks blackness of night covers it's deeds? Not so.

Let us go through the Bible and gather the signs Jesus gave us.

Christians, vote for the FRUIT of righteousness. Not empty promises. Use righteous judgment; not wistful hopes.

If we do not read our Bibles we may be the 5 VIRGINS with no oil in our lamps. Selah.

Mishael

J. D. Riles:

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of KNOWLEDGE .......

Most DO NOT have knowledge of the Kingdom of God.

Ephesians 4:4 ......ONE BODY and ONE SPIRIT ......

Ephesians 4:6 ....ONE GOD and Father of ALL ....above ALL ....through ALL ....and IN YOU ALL .......

John 14:6 ....I AM TRUTH .....I AM LIFE ......

John 17:21 That they may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in you: that they may ALSO BE ONE IN US .....

Christ is a BODY that HOLDS the LIFE of his Father.

John 5:19 ....the SON can do NOTHING of himself ....

John 5:30 ...I can of mine own self DO NOTHING .....

WE are a BODY that HOLDS CHRIST (the life and truth of our Father).

John 15:5 .... for without me you can do nothing .....

What happen at the CROSS of Calvary?

Sinful flesh was crucified (all mankind died that day); three days latter all mankind was raised a NEW CREATION.

Matthew 8:22 ...let the dead bury the dead ......

They now have the LIFE OF CHRIST:

BUT they have NO KNOWLEDGE.

1 Timothy 4:16 Who (Christ) ONLY hath immortality dwelling in the LIGHT .....

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God GIVETH IT (the new creation) a body as it hath PLEASED HIM: and to every SEED HIS (Christ's) OWN BODY.

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery .....Christ in YOU ....

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (Christ in you) that WORKETH IN YOU (his BODY) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

To be BORN AGAIN is to come to TRUTH and KNOWLEDGE and LIFE.

Christ is the LIFE IN YOU, and Christ CANNOT SIN.

Revelation 12:9... and Satan who deceiveth the whole world was cast out ....

You are either the TEMPLE of SATAN: dwelling in deception, with no knowledge.

OR:

You are the TEMPLE of God: dwelling in truth and light and the LIFE OF CHRIST.

Psalms 82:6 For I have said: Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

Psalms 136:2 O give thanks to the God of gods .....

We die daily to deception and are daily being born again of truth.

God Bless you!

I probably missed all the discussion around this, but I have seen comments before denying any rapture and done so in such a way that some are calling God's followers anti-Christian, heretical or other names. Is that normal for God's followers to call other God's followers names for simply believing God's word in 1 Thessalonians 4:17?

Some seem to have unusually negative emotional responses to the word "rapture" but the Bible clearly uses the words "caught up." So, those with animosity toward a particular word can just use whatever word or phrase to describe that event that they are comfortable with, but either way its the same event that 1 Thessalonians 4:17 describes. This verse is God's word and is true. Because God's Word says "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:" then that is true. Anything else people claim against God's Word by definition would then be false.

The Call of Jeremiah

GOD calls Jeremiah, Son of Hilkiah the priest. He began to prophesy in the thirteenth year of Josiah's reign ( Jer 1:2). It was a surprise to hear the calling of God. God has degrees for every child that is yet to be born. Doesn't these words of the LORD give us assurance?

"Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." Jer 1:5

"You're not what you think you are. You're what GOD degreed you are."

AKR

Trust GOD. Don't confuse about the calling of the LORD. You have to know for sure, that the gifts calling of the LORD are Irrevocable. He is the GOD who is unchanging. It is the whole duty of every Christian to share the whole Gospel with everyone next to him that lost and dying in sin. It is not promised Christians a persecution-free Earth. But do not be anxious. Even if we get questioned by Kings (/officials) of the Earth, our LORD shall put in our mouth what we must answer. The whole world follows the path of sin such as corruption, promiscuity, adultery, homosexuality, abortion, idolatry, pride, etc., The whole world disobeys God's moral law. We as Christian must stand for the truth.

"It is not politically correct to tell others of sin but it is Biblically correct to stand for the truth and expose light on sin's darkness." David Burnette #Jer2

"God chooses people based on their willingness to serve obediently, not based on their ability to perform perfectly." Christian Busse

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Much of my extended family hold decades-long grudges against each other... and many of them are Christians. Please pray that God will lead them to forgive each other, ask forgiveness where needed, and realize that we are all going to be offended one way or another by somebody. Thank you.

I agree, there's a way to disagree in a polite way but there's when someone starts preaching "the rapture doesn't exist, Salvation by Grace doesn't exist, eternal security doesn't exist;" I have to say -- it that how we should be writing on the King James Bible Online? Are comments like that going to draw fellowship or create harsh division. I disagree with every point he made but it's the way he said it too. He wrote it to try to shame those that believe.

There are plenty of things I disagree with in churches today but I'm not here to bring about divisions. I believe in lifting up others with the word; not searching for ways to mock offend the brethren.

1 John 3:16 - Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

That's the love we ought to have. Also I agree with you, attention is needed to the other tabs of discussion especially the 'prayer requests' side of things. Sometimes when a prayer request is being written here - it's because that person has no where and no one else to write to.

God bless!

Thank you Suze and for sharing edifying comments here. Christ Jesus commanded that we love our brother (sisters in Christ too) and a command from Christ is shows He wants us to walk like Him. He laid down His life for us and called us His friends. To think, the God and Creator of the universe to do that for us.

What appalls me is the vehement comments that were posted in the main Bible Discussion page the other day. Someone complained that a post was deleted and I saw the post prior to it's deletion. In short, the author wrote, "modern churches preach the 'easy way' doctrines of the rapture, once saved always saved..." The author goes as far as to mock Salvation by Grace through Faith. Now, it offended me because it's blasphemous to deny Salvation above anything else and this guy was so passionate to carry this message that it was posted more than one time.

Do those who post these not know that Christ left a body (the church) and he expects that without spot or wrinkle. About loving the brethren, we should be showing that in the way we comment to others on this site.

Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

God bless you!