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Thank you Free!

Psalms 35:13-14

Thank you Gabriel!

Hebrews 4:16

Amen Brother Jesse.

These scriptures are clear! there's no way one can honestly deny or twist them.

And Daniel sums it up well also.

Daniel 12:9-10. And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Daniel was told these words would be sealed unto the END. They're to be unsealed here in

Revelation 22:10-11. And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Here we see the same thing referenced in the old testament.

Both Daniel and John gives the contrast of the fate of two groups. This so-called refining fire has already past.

God bless.

Acts 2.32,33

Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted , and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which he now see and hear .

Set your self free and believe the true Gospel.

Is drinking strong alcohol a sin?

I mean drinking things like beer, brandy an ciders

I was saved a year ago. However I am very lost at the moment. I am questioning my salvation. Also the doctrine I have been taught doesn't feel right. Dispensationlism seems to be adding to GOD's word in my opinion.

I am so confused as everybody interprets the bible differently.

Can the holy spirit leave?

can gluttony send you to hell?

so many Questions

John the baptist was filled with the holy spirit in his mothers womb, because he would be the chosen one to baptise Jesus for the remission of sins. At that moment heaven was opened and he saw the spirit of God descending like a dove. and a vocie from heaven said "this is my son whom i love and him i am well pleased".

Susan,

Mark 15:32 says that these two thieves were insulting Him. That is true. But we know from the other accounts that one of these thieves afterward turned and received Christ as Messiah. Jesus said today you shall be with me in Paradise. Until a person takes their last breath, they still have the opportunity to confess who Christ is and receive Him. This is exactly what one of them did.

Hi.

Lift up the families of the children killed and injured in Texas in prayer.

God bless you all.

Brother Spencer,

Very well put! If a person is going to be corrupt, they're still going to be corrupt no matter what. A person who has a heart for the Lord, they may be involved in sin and corruption, but when they hear the gospel, when they have a heart response to God's Spirit convicting them of their need of Christ, they'll be righteous and they'll be holy. So it's basically just a statement right across the board. Whatever you're going to be is what you're going to be, either corrupt, unbelieving, or righteous and holy!

Thanks for sharing this!

In my mind i see this John 16 : 13 as very enlightning...Jesus was telling them of the spirit of truth that cannot speak of himself and that is b/c the spirit of truth cannot speak for a while simply b/c he is a Child that is gona be born in us...An infant

..... Jeremiah 1 : 6 Then said ah LORD GOD behold i cannot speak for i am but a Child...Jeremiah cd not speak for a while and he was symbolic of the manchild the spirit of truth that is gonna rule all nations...Jeremiah was just symbolic of that child of PROMISE which is the H.G. That is gona rule all nations...She brought forth a man child that is gona rule all nations...Rev.12 : 5 .

....This is telling us we much be bornagain,...We must birth a lil Child which is the H.G THAT IS GONNA BE BORN IN US...The spirit of truth is gonn be born in us via the seed of Christ Jesus...Thats y Jesus mentions the babes and sucklings as they cannot speak for a while.

..... Jeremiah 30 : 6 ..Ask ye now if a man doth travail with Child, Y DO I SEE EVERY MAN WITH THEIR HANDS ON THEIR LOINS AS WOMAN IN TRAVAIL....This is telling us there is an infant in our future a baby Christ...Thats y Jesus said these things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes, infants that cannot speak for a lil while.

.....Alas for that day is GREAT there is none like it it is a time of JACOBS TROUBLES...Who is this JACOB...Its the 3 rd person the H.G. that is gonna be born in us That heavenly Jacob the H.G that ISRAEL OF GOD...The spirit of truth that is gonna rule all nations....But he is just an infant...our new born babe...But he is just like baby Jermiah that cd not speak for a while..

.....Y am i telling ya all this, simply b/c we are gona birth the spirit of truth that Child of Promise..An infant that cannot speak for a while....He answers to Gal. 4 : 1 The heir as long as he is a Child he differs nothin from a servent THO HE BELORD OF ALL...but is under governors and tutors till the time appointed of the father...thats th H.G.

Susan:

We are the two thieves on the cross.

One saved in the first resurrection.

The other to be saved in the second resurrection.

It's the work of that death on the cross, that CAUSES this reviling to TURN into confession unto salvation.

Today you shall be with me in paradise (the presence of God).

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery .....CHRIST IN YOU ......

God Bless YOU!

i have no comment but i did love this chapter

Revelation 22:11.

A very tough verse to deal with.

He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

In the context of death and the end times, this is a dire warning. Unbelievers who reject the gospel do not receive a second chance to be saved if they die. Eternity does not change anyone's status. The person who dies in an unsaved condition will be unsaved throughout eternity, and the saved person will be saved throughout eternity.

When Jesus returns, He will reward the righteous but punish the unrighteous. Daniel 12:10 states that in the end time "Many shall purify themselves and make themselves white and be refined, but the wicked shall act wickedly." Someday it will be too late for the unsaved to change their destination by repenting and believing in Jesus. Hebrews 3:15 implores: "Today, if you hear his voice., do not harden your hearts."

More to come.

God bless

Brother Jesse:

In a nut shell: All the WORDS were spoken, and the WORKS were finished before the foundation of the world.

Hebrews 4:10 For he that has entered into his rest, hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

Hebrews 4:3 ....the works WERE FINISHED from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 13:8 .....slain BEFORE the foundation of the world.

Everyone has been given the gift of being a heir to God.

All this is being played out in God's appointed time.

I AM the beginning and the end.

I AM the FIRST (born) and the LAST (born).

All preordained to be conformed to the IMAGE OF HIS SON.

The WHOLE world is in TRAVAIL, as a Woman getting ready to GIVE BIRTH.

You must be BORN AGAIN, into the likeness of Christ.

You are a FINISHED WORK, you are just being brought to TRUTH.

My people perish for lack of knowledge.

This is the GOSPEL, all the works of God. GRACE

Man has no part in these works; man is the HEIR of the works of GRACE.

John 4:23 Now the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and TRUTH, for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

If Christ DIED for the WORLD, and RECONCILED all things TO HIM.

To say different, that it's up to man, is not worshipping the Father in spirit and truth.

God Bless YOU!

Shirley,

Unfortunately, and sorry to say, the short answer is, "no." I'm glad you've accepted Christ and that question is not for you. To me, this is why the Gospel is so convincing/convicting. I believe the Bible makes it very clear upon death that our fate is sealed, or your name is in the "Book of Life" or not. This is why we're preached, "Come to Jesus, be saved, choose, surrender, time is short, be ready, spread the "Good news" gospel." Link

The closest you could come to this; for the living to be in the tribulation. Much controversy about that. Yet, not really. Jesus comes and takes His Church/gentiles (by REV 4, no mention afterwards). Our chapter is done as we know it - literally. It now goes back to God's promise for the Jews, His chosen people. I don't know how this will technically work for a gentile in tribulation, but it seems by now, you will have to give your life by total sacrifice/Martyrdom and deny the world/mark/beast ( Rev 13,14) Even so, you'd not be wise to gamble in tribulation, by REV 6 scrolls are unsealed and only goes south from there.

Hope that helped. I'm sorry if you knew someone that didn't or unsure if they accepted Christ. I battle with this for my own loved ones --the burden is real. In Christ,

Romans 6:9 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

To All saints:

Grow in grace and keep the righteousness of faith. The gift of grace and the grace of God always in your heart. We already won. We are just waiting for our redemption when Jesus meets us in the cloud. Stay healthy and keep reading the Bible. It is exciting to see all of you in the cloud.

We walk in the Spirit of God.

Amen Brother Chris.

I've read a few of his quotes but that one bypassed me.

The bible speaks of this falling away throughout scripture, even symbolic in the Leaven offered in shavuot.

It's no comfort to me to engage in this debate in such manner. It's actually heart breaking.

If nothing else you're blessed with the clarity of scripture being played out before your very eyes. It declares the truth.

Jesus foretold his desciples many things for them to observe that they might believe.

John 13:19.

John 14:29.

Thank you and God bless.

The bible says that all sin will pay off in death. So in God eyes there is no little sin or big sin, all sin without repentance will lead everyone into hell fire if we don't repent. No sin is bigger than the other.

Earl,

With all due respect, Christ is not the beast of Revelation Chapter 13.

Thank you so much for sharing that personal information , it sounds from your posts , that you had a very interesting family life , you are very fortunate to have had such a close warm family , all our experiences are so important to getting us where we are supposed to be and God leaves nothing to chance , if we trust in Him He will always give us what we need . My mom is a very complex person , she is a diagnosed psychopath and narcissist so she's not always easy to be around . I have to have my emotional guard up with her . When I was young I took everything she did and said very personally , that was not good for me . Some years ago she told me about her diagnosis and this was such a relief to me . It's helped me so much to understand that she just can't help being who she is and it's not my fault . Our relationship has improved now I know that most of the time she's not trying to be nasty and I've grown a few extra layers of skin smiley face . She's quite vulnerable now and needs my help a lot , if she hadn't told me about her diagnosis I would be struggling to help her but now I understand her better it means I can be a better daughter to her . God puts people in our lives to teach us important lessons , we can all learn so much from each other , on here and in the world , our whole lives as Christians in this world are about learning to be as good a Christian as we can be . Much love to you in Christ .

Earl,

I have no rebuttal because I'm still not understanding your message. I'm a little slow sometimes. I was just trying to understand what you were trying to say in your original post. I'm still unsure but that's okay. I do not recall saying "that just because we don't believe, doesn't make it not so." Can you please refer me to the post where I said that so I can see why I might have said that?

Have a great day Earl.

Hi Earl.

Honestly, Here's as far as I read from your last post.

Your quote.

This study is going to take a while, because it take lots of references from outer scriptures to come to TRUTH. End quote.

I haven't seen you quote a scripture that was satisfying.

There's no virtue here.

Thanks but no thanks.

I want be carrying this any further with YOU.

But I will have much to say to those who trust and believe what's written.

God bless.

Amen Bro. ELB....You are so right...Our God is a consuming fire...that is gonna CONSUME mans evil adamic nature...Thats y Jesus said EVERY SINNER WILL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE OF FIRE....Without this lake of fire ( our God ) we cannot be made clean.

...... Mal. 3 : 2...Who shall abide the day of his coming...Who shall stand when he appears...( 2 nd coming )...For he shall be as a refiners FIRE and FULLERS SOAP...And his words are the fire as Jeremiah said in chap 5....ok gbu

.....Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire....thank you Jesus that is what we ALL NEED....His baptism of the HG and

Fire.....Even in the natural Gold has to be tried in the fire and God tells us we are gonna be made more precious then the golden wedge of OPhir....ok gotta go

Tom,

There is nothing in those three verses that describe a saved person losing their salvation. First of all, an enlightened person does not mean that that person is saved. John 1:9 tells us that every person coming into this world is enlightened to the truth. But everyone does not have the same response to the enlightenment. Some receive Christ, and some don't. Hebrews 6:4-6 is talking about those who were participating with believers, they were being enlightened to the truth, but they walked away from it. It doesn't say anything about them ever surrendering their lives to Christ.

We have people in our churches today, who look, and act, and talk, and believe just like a normal believer. They learn the language and learn the doctrines, and learn the lingo and say "praise the Lord," and they can learn how to put Jesus bumper stickers on their car correctly, and then one day they just disappear.

Did they lose their salvation? No, they were never saved at all and that is why they left. 1 John 2:19 says, "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us."

John says the reason why they left us is because they really were not one of us, because if they were one of us they would have remained with us. This would fit in with Hebrews 6:4-6. Also, if we understand the Parable of the Sower, it helps us to see who the the writer of Hebrews is talking about. They are not saved individuals who lost their salvation. They were there being enlightened to the truth just like everyone else. It's how they responded to that enlightenment. They either received Christ and were saved, or they walked away from that enlightenment, never being saved. And Hebrews 6:4-6 says the fell away. That was their response to the enlightenment. They never got saved.

One of those moments when you read and the KJV and you see something that startles you. BOTH individuals being crucified with Jesus reviled him; meaning the one that was saved, right before he was saved, actually called Jesus out in a derogatory manner? Mark 15:32. Am I missing something? All along I thought it was only the thief on the left?

Hi Tom,

The verses do not mean you can lose Salvation. The doctrines teaching that Christians lose Salvation is Lordship Salvation from Calvinism and very contrary to true Christianity. The meaning of Hebrews 6:4-6: There were Christians that were known in this time who had heard the true word of Salvation and it's thought some even made a false profession to accepting Christ as their Savior. Deep down, although they follow Christians and went through the motions...they were not saved and their works (fruits of their Salvation) were shown as reprobate. Thus, this is why they were marked as fallen away. This is no different than Judas Iscariot who'd followed Jesus, walked with the other disciples, professed Christ but deep down had never accepted Him.

The great Bible teacher, Dr. Ray Stanford (1916-2012) said, "The moment you are saved, you become a member of the body of Christ. If you could ever become unsaved, part of Christ's own body would go to hell"

Think about that.

Also consider this, the Gift of Salvation is given of God to man through Christ Jesus. We didn't die for sin and set anyone free. Anything man builds or gives can be taken away. But, not the things of God. God will never and has never "removed" His free gift of Salvation when it's genuine. That's a Calvinistic lie.

The assertation that one can lose Salvation is the belief that one was saved by works and not by Grace.

If I cannot do good works to get saved, then how can I do bad works to lose salvation? Neither would have been saved in the first place and they would be those in Hebrews 6:4-6.

John 5:24 states: "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life."

Jesus said in John 10:28, "And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."

I have to admit I have never read the Quran; therefore, I cannot speak on it. However, as a Child of God, I've never been led to read it or follow anyone but JESUS. God wrote the living word of the BIBLE and I have read it, somewhat studied it, and hopefully live to God's pleasing. With that said right there, and as a Christian, you drive a moot point for a Christian; for I cannot serve two Gods/masters:

Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

The BIBLE is the Living Word of God and is ONE Master/Holy Trinity. I'm sorry, but Muhammad/man doesn't decide who is "glorified" and get to write his own bible. From what little I have learned about Muhammad, he took similar teachings of God/Jews and manipulated them for his own following but claimed God; hence the conversation, division, and another book called the Quran.

This is why there's only ONE GOD and ONE BIBLE --anything outside of this is deception or false. Sometimes it's so simple, but leave it to man to complicate/manipulate.

I pray that you will ask Jesus to reveal Himself to you and His truth, not Muhammad's.

Besides that, and here's the common sense of God's simplicity; where is Muhammad's name in God's book? Link

On top of that you call him a "prophet," but yet God has no "Muhammad" in His book --that speaks volumes to me. Case closed. I pray it will you too.

Truth Matters

Tom,

Jesus lays out in plain easy to understand words in his gospel, and throughout the scripture, how we shall actually receive salvation, and how he expects us to live our lives.

I believe this one small scripture - spoken by Jesus really sums it up:

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

If we ignore Jesus, he will not know us.

Matthew 7:21

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Jesus says point blank: Only those that do the will of the Father will enter into the kingdom of heaven! So, if we are not doing the will of God - will we receive salvation? Jesus tells us no - we will not receive salvation!

Jesus is telling us that we must be obedient, and live our lives according to his Word!

God Bless.

Lord Yehova

I know I'm not perfect and I have sinned greatly. I know Lord God that I am a sinner and in knowing this it is only by Yeshua that by His blood i am made anew. Lord God I pray for all those who have prayed in faith asking for when we ask we shall receive. Lord God I know with you. We never pray for what is impossible because we know with you ALL things are possible. Lord God we ask for wisdom guidance and peace. Knowing all that we pray for all that we need Yehova will supply. In the Name of Yeshua, May this prayer go out like a cry in the world. Our bones sing in a thousand different ways to praise you and our voices lift to the Heavens above. Open our eyes to what is beyond and above and not in front of us. Yehova you made all and the spirit of God move inside the waters of our body as you did in the beginning. In Jesus Christ Name