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Yes, Dear Junnybug, your pastor is right about that "where we still give as we feel led to and where we feel led to", although in my opinion this has nothing to do with the Law that was fulfilled by Jesus, simply such a thing is not mentioned in the NT.

On the contary, Paul in his epistle to 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 is very clear about it. "Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come".

See also 2 Corinthians 9:7 "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver" If there would still be tenths he wouldn't ask this but he would demand that corinthians kept the commadement.

No one can demand such thing.

Paul in his last meeting with the elders of Ephesus Acts 20:17-36 (see v 33-35) asks them to serve the members of the church there free, like he was always doing. Why? Because he didn't want them to put such a heavy weight on christians there. So how about asking now for 10%? No, certainly not. GBU

Thank you for your prayers it's been rough and I don't know what to do anymore. It has been a living hell and Im waiting to see relief. Though if I told you my story I may deserve to be in hell. People do change.

Be encouraged in Jesus name.

Isaiah 55:11 kjv: So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:

it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish

that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing

whereto I send it.

Matthew 17-24:27 as I read tithes is up to us, for we give freely to help our brothers and sisters!

Dear GiGi, I'm sorry to hear about what you and your family have gone through. I am glad to hear your confidence in her salvation. May God uplift you and give you peace.

Yes, it is wrong for women and young women to wear clothing that reveals too much skin. Woman are to honor God by their actions and dress.

Genesis 3:21, "Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them."

The word, "coats," as mentioned in Genesis 3:21 comes from the Hebrew word from the Bible Concordance:

kthneth, keth-o'-neth; or kuttneth; from an unused root meaning to cover (compare H3802); a shirt:-coat, garment, robe.

H3802 comes from the Hebrew word kthph, kaw-thafe'; from an unused root meaning to clothe; the shoulder (proper, i.e. upper end of the arm; as being the spot where the garments hang); figuratively, side-piece or lateral projection of anything:-arm, corner, shoulder(-piece), side, undersetter.

Outline of Biblical Usage per Blue letter Bible:

tunic, under-garment,

a long shirt-like garment usually of linen

GiGi,

I am so sorry for the loss of your mother! I'm in the middle of writing a musical, and I wrote this sone as a part of it. Let me share it with you:

There's a place where angels live.

A place where saved family live.

And a place where our Savior reigns,

Where golden streets remain,

And that's where you shall reign.

With broken hearts, we release you.

Release you to our King!

In time, we will join you,

And sing forever in Paradise!

But for now, Rest In Peace with the Father.

The pain you were in is finally gone.

The stress you were having is finally away!

No more tears, no more pain,

No more fear, no more sorrow,

No more remembrance of today!

With broken hearts, we release you.

Release you to our King!

In time, we will join you,

And sing forever in Paradise!

But for now, rest in peace with the Father!

And we can't wait to reunite with you!

When we see you at Heavens gate's!

No more tears, no more sorrow,

No more remembrance of today!

Oh, friend, our great joy,

You can sleep on right now,

For you're in, Jesus great hands!

No sickness or pain,

No sadness of care,

We are on our way to reunite with you there!

Oh, friend, we love you!

I hope these lyrics I have wrote encourage you during your time of grief and loss! I am praying for you, dear friend!

Abigail

Again, the reason certain epistles are considered to be questionable is because they do not agree with the teaching of Jesus, the Holy Ghost, and the Apostles.

Here is another glaring example from the 1st epistle to the Corinthians:

"...take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak." 1st Corinthians 8:9

The author(s) of 1st Corinthians claim Christians enjoy the liberty to eat meats that have been offered to an idol in the temple of an idol.

Christians are NOT at liberty to eat meats that have been offered to idols. In Acts 16:4-5, we're told Paul preached the exact opposite. "...abstain from meats offered to idols [...] from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well." Acts 15:29

I do not know if you made this typo by mistake, but Yahweh, the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, Jesus Christ should always have an uppercase G, not a lowercase g. Lower case g in the Bible refers to false god's, and a capitalized G refers to the One True God. Jesus Christ loves you very much!

2 Kings 4:1 Certain woman of the wives of the sons of the profits. what is the meaning

Look up Usama Dakdok and you will see what I am talking about. I am not sure about the comment you made about inner hurts, I do not have any inner hurts. Christ has made me free indeed. I am just sounding the alarm to warn Americans and the whole world of the grave dangers of islam that blasphemes against the Triune Godhead.

islam also promotes pedophilia, homosexuality, cross dressing, domestic violence against women and children, homicides, brain washing tactics to intimate their victims to never leave their cult. It is crazy to see how America has truly fallen away from Yahweh, Jesus Christ, by allowing muslims to erect their mosques in our country.

We must continue to expose the morbid atrocities of the koran, how sordid the koran is. I am disgusted when I hear people try to relate Christianity with other false religions, including islam.

Christianity opposes rape, pedophilia, and all other perversions of the world.

Read Deuteronomy 22:25 -27, "But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die: But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter: For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her."

Also read Judges 19 and 20 to see how God dealt with rapist.

The koran encourages rape with muslims and non-muslims. Look up Usama Dakdok wesite:The Straight Way.

Usama was born in Egypt and was raised in a Christian home, and attended an islamic pubic school, where he learned Arabic and the koran. Usama moved to the United States, and started an Christian organization, exposing the errors in the koran, and has toured acrossed the United States to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to muslims, and non-muslims, and to warn the church of the dangers of islam.

Alice,

1 Timothy 2:9-10 gives instruction on this. Women are to adorn (Dress) in moderate apparel, something that is orderly and acceptably decent. That word shamefacedness is an old English word representing the Greek word that has to do with orderly or Godly fear.

Something we don't have in our culture today is shamefacedness, people who are ashamed of the clothes that they wear out in public. It's the old "Everybody does it, who cares?" And you would think that they would be self-conscious, but they're not.

It goes on and talks about broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array. I think the whole point here is that women should not present themselves in church in a way that would cause distraction.

In 1 Timothy 2:10, Paul says that the conduct of the women are to be such as women who profess godliness that they belong to Christ. And the general teaching of scripture is, especially for a woman, is that Paul's very sensitive to the fact that women are more noticeable physically, and that Christ is seen in them, and there's nothing about them, the way they dress, or the way they act, that distracts from people seeing Christ instead of something else.

That's basically what it's all about. But some people have taken it to extremes in both ways. And you will see groups today that will draw attention to themselves because they try to legalistically follow this outline, rather than understanding the spiritual message behind it. What Paul is saying is let these people see Christ in you. Don't distract from that. This is not a fashion show when you go to church.

Is Heaven and hell, right here on

I have stage four cancer please pray for me!!!!!

Dgjot: YOU ARE SAVED BECAUSE YOU ARE CHOSEN, God says he CHOOSES YOU!

You came to God because GOD CAUSED you to come to him.

John 12:32 If I be lifted up, I WILL draw ALL MEN to me.

You BELIEVE because God CAUSES you to BELIEVE.

Philippians 1:29 For unto you IT IS GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not ONLY TO BELIEVE on him, but also to SUFFER for his sake.

Everything that has happen in you life has been for A PURPOSE, That we come to TRUTH that ALL WORKS are of GOD, we are just the vessel.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (his life) that worketh in you (the body) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

John 14:6 ....I am the LIFE ......

Rejoice in the past, it's CAUSING you to be conformed to the IMAGE OF GOD (the Divine Nature).

Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put MY SPIRIT (LIFE) in you and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and to keep my judgements and DO THEM.

Matthew 6:10 Thy will be done .....

Everything in your past (as well as the future) is God's will, you are just now coming TO KNOWLEDGE, that GOD KNOW whats best for HIS BODY.

2 Peter 1:4 Whereby are GIVEN TO US exceedingly great and precious PROMISES: that by these you might be PARTAKERS of the DIVINE NATURE ......

God Bless You!

2Peter 3:8, Genesis 1:27-28, Genesis 5:1-2, Psalms 90:1-6, Hebrews 4:7,

I believe you may be correct, just like the Day of The LORD, days = are also a moment of time,

Zephaniah 1:15, Ezekiel 30:3, Revelations 6:17,

Hopefully these are helpful

Death comes. I don't think anyone is ready for what The Lord chooses to reveal. My sister said my mother smiled and was looking high up a wall. I wasn't there.

When my Dad died I was with him all evening. He had Alzheimer's and aspirated food. He was drowning. I did not want him to go! I continued to pray. Then something said. LEAVE. I'm taking him now. I left 5 mins. My Dad was gone, but all the pain and agony was gone from his face. He looked happy. Not the terror from drowning on food. Death is swallowed up in victory. Christians have nothing to fear.

A few months before my mother died, I felt I should witness to her. All her life she did the work of 5 men. I asked her, aren't you even curious about WHO you are spending eternity with? You'll be with Him forever. Don't you want to know what He's like?

Next morning I see her eating her oatmeal, with the Bible reading it intently. It was my Bible which is all marked up, falling apart. Every morning several days. I asked if she wanted to pray. She said "I always just thought it would be me and your Dad together." I never considered Jesus would be there too. She had prayed the prayer taped on the inside cover.

I'm wondering, have we thought about our Savior, living with Him, day to day, in heaven? What is he like? What does he like? Jesus knows what we need, and has prepared for wonders we never thought of.

A few months after my Dads passing, I was still missing him terribly. We were close. I had a dream: he was walking towards me, weaving in and out of our driveway that was like a parking lot. His face was young again, and he had a great big smile. I woke and I knew he was with Jesus! The mourning ended that day.

Witness to your family members. Let them have those old ragged Bibles. Tape the sinners prayer inside the cover. Believe in miracles.

Michelle,

This is what I learned about 1 Corinthians 16:13. It says, "quit you like men." "And like a man, I've quit several times!" Just kidding, that is not what it means. It's literally one Greek word that means be a man. Moreover, it is associated with courage! Remember what God told Joshua in Joshua 1:8-11? Be of courage Joshua for I am with you wherever you go. So it's not a human courage. It's a spiritual trust that no matter what, we can face anything in life because Christ is there.

Here's some scripture I feel relevant about tithe today: Matthew 23:23, Matthew 25:31-46, Luke 11:42, James 2:15-17, James 1:27, Malachi 3:10,

Mark 12:38-44, Leviticus 23:22, Deuteronomy 24:19-21,

Hopefully these are helpful

John 13:35, "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."

True Christians can not persecute true Christians; only false converts can encourage true Believers in Christ to suffer severe persecution for His names' sake. How will all men know without a shadow of a doubt, who are the real Christ followers verses the false professing ones?

The answer is stated in Matthew 7:16, "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?"

Matthew 7:18, "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit."

Love is one of the fruits that is mentioned first in Galatians 5:22-23, "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."

1John 4:20, "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?"

True Love, God's Agape love does not persecute another child of God for doing what God says to do in His Holy Word. A person will know who is who by the fruit on a person's tree. That is how an Believer will be able to discern a true Christ followers from an affected (phony) one.

That is why in John 16:2 it says, "They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service."

When Saul before he became Paul before he had a road to Damascus experience: he was on a mission to slaughter all the Christians in certain territories, when Christ, thank God, interrupted his plans. Paul considered himself the least of the apostles because of his past persecutions against the church of God.

1Corinthians 15:9, "For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God."

But now that Saul was transformed by the Holy Spirit, he is now a new creature.

I do not believe that Jesus would turn anyone away from attending a service, in fact the Holy Spirit may have led them there in the first place, to teach them, to possibly convict them eventually, and to lead them to Christ. These things have happened. I was once told and believe it to be true that the church is a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints. Do not forget we are all sinners and are saved by grace.

My old pastor said church is exactly where they should me, along with Alcoholics, drug addicted people, the bum in the street, the homeless, etc for where else are they going to hear the gospel.

I myself, was lead God to a spirit filled church before i was saved. No one had lead me to Christ as is common but God himself lead me there.

I do agree they cannot hold an office or become members of the church, but they DO belong there.

Thanks for listening.

Junnybug

That is also true god is truly truly real as anyone else because god is everywhere

And he sees all that his children do and not do

Of all the gifts from the Holy Spirit - a most excellent way Paul said superior and better than these gifts the more excellent way than the gifts the best gifts - superiority of love over the gifts of the Spirit

Christ is with a capital C not lower case, you must of had a typo. Jesus loves you very much!

I have always believed in the 10% tithe giving but recently saw a vidio concerning a pastor talk where he said that the title was under the law and once the Jesus fullfulled the law the 10% was also fullfulled. And that now we have what he called the "Spirit of the tithe" where we still give as we feel led to and where we feel led to.

How do you feel about that.

Also heard that God instilled the tithe BEFORE the law was given to Moses to Abrham, Lot and others... so if so wouldnt it still be in affect even though the law was fullfulled?

Junnybug

Genesis 3:14 ..... upon thy belly thou shall go........ Does this mean the serpant originally walked with legs and feet?

Junnybug

There is always those who say the seven days of creation are literal and those who do not but in Genesus 1:4 my eye caught, "These are the generations of the heavens and earth........ So I am thinking it is not a literal seven days?

Your thoughts?

Junnybug

is it wrong to wear deep neckline dresses? is it wrong to show a lot of skin for girls?

What a wonderful Lord we have! Thank you for sharing this! Praise the Lord!

I have a feeling you would love a certain you tube video. Go to you tube, and search "Eric Ludy - (The Names of God) - (Return of Majesty Trilogy). It's not long; perhaps a bit over 11 minutes....but absolutely glorious! Indeed, what a beautiful Savior is Christ Jesus! He is everything! HalleluJAH!

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

The Elect along with 2 witness will prophecy (teach) of the anti-Christ when everyone else have fallen for the great deception; those who sat in pews their whole life but were never taught the truth. Will be so ashamed that they fell for it that they will want mountains to fall on them but they will not be able to die. Revelation 6:16 Those who were patient, having eyes to see wait as a chase virgin for the true CHRIST who comes 7th trump.