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The first creation was a god of THIS WORLD, Man (a devil), the most subtil beast of the field, made of EARTH, flesh and blood, and a carnal mind.
The second creation is a god of the NEXT WORLD, Born of Spirit, with the MIND of God.
You are a NEW CREATION in Christ.
God Bless You!
V 25...with the mind I myself serve the law of God ; but with my flesh the law of sin .
Romans Ch 8 V 1-17 especially : V 1...walk not after the flesh...(not lucifer or satan ) , but after the Spirit . V 3... "God sending His own Son in the likeness of...sinful flesh , and for sin , condemned sin in the flesh "
We are the flesh , we are sinful .
V 5-9 For they that are after the flesh ( non Christians ) do mind the things of the flesh ; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit . For to be carnally minded is death ; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace .
Here is my point : "Because the carnal mind is enmity against God ( not satan / lucifer , us , with our carnal minds ) ...so they that are in the flesh cannot please God . V 9 But ye are not in the flesh , but in the Spirit , if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you .
God is Spirit . The carnal mind is enmity against God...they that are in the flesh cannot please God .
Satan is noticeable by his absence .
Much love in Christ .
Thanks for replying.
Sorry I couldn't get back to you sooner.
Brother Chris gave a delivery I couldn't improve on. I concur with Brother Chris.
God bless.
Well stated!!!
.....Chris do you not understand that if the very Kingdom of God is gonna be with in us we will be Gods period...There is no way we cannot be Gods if the very Kingdom of God is gona be with in us...Can you not understand that we are gona be made 1 with God in a marriage of the lamb of God in Christ Jesus...Chris think b/f you make a statement like that...You are in essence fighting real salvation when ya make a false statement like that....All the evil rulers in the O.T. ARE LIKE THE BRIDE DESIRING TO BE God according to you Christ....but GBU
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Concerned Mom
.....And Spencer you mention that we cannot be Gods...When the bible mentions several times we will be married to Christ...And a marriage is when 2 are made 1...That was our lord's prayer that God wd make them 1 as we are 1... John 17... Isaiah 62 : 5 As A Young man marries a virgin so shall thy Sons marry thee...As the Bridegroom rejoices over the bride So shall thy God rejoice over thee.
.....Remember when he spat on the ground and made CLAY OF THE SPITTLE... John 9 : 6 ...His spit was his Word and the ground was humanity...He made a Marriage of the ground and his Word...The Clay was a new Creature...part God and part man...If any man be in Christ Jesus he is a new Creature...Mankind and God are gonna be enjoined as in a Marriage....Thus we will share his Glory....We are gonna be made 1 with God Almighty BY HIS Word...I have said ye are Gods... Psalms 82 : 6...Thus the seed of the Sower which are the WORDS of God that are gonna make us Gods...As Jesus said to whom the word came( his seed ) it made them Gods...And the scripture cannot be broken..SAYS OUR LORD.
Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
We all brides of CHRIST if you want to go that far, but it is a spiritual analogy. All gender will be done away with in the Kingdom to come. There will be no giving or taking in marriage!!
GBU
As far as I am concerned my opinion is that it is clear that elders as well as deacons must be married. It is also written that they must be one wife's husband, that is not remarried. Also their children must be in faith as well. The scriptures is clear about them been able to govern their house so to be able to minister the church. There are other ministries given by God that do not require a person to be married, like apostles, evangelists, teachers... But for elders and deacons it is a must according to the written Will of God. As I see it ...
GBU
In both accounts, you will note that those monarchs were elevated to an incredibly high position, both in terms of their kingdoms (Babylonia & Phoenicia), their wealth & power, & also in their own eyes. Yet, we see some strange descriptions of them which simply cannot be applied to an earthly ruler (e.g. falling from Heaven, I will ascend into Heaven, exalt my throne above the stars of God. And to Tyre: having been in Eden, anointed cherub, perfect in all thy ways till iniquity was found in thee).
Some see that none other than earthly rulers are spoken of here, but others see the reason for their pride, belief in their invincibility, & eventual downfall of these kings as pertaining to the spirit that controlled them. It is as when Jesus spoke against Peter ( Matthew 16:23); Jesus was certainly looking at Peter, but heard Satan's voice coming through again (as in Matthew 4:3-10), a spirit pressing Peter to blurt out those words that were in opposition to Jesus' Words that the Cross was truly God's Plan. When one utters words that are contrary to God's Word, believing them to be true, those words are Satan-generated, for the enemy will always seek to distort the Truth (remember Eden?).
Even Jesus spoke about Satan's fall from Heaven in John 10:18, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven", though unsure whether Jesus specifically quoted the Isaiah passage. Yet, there was that occasion when Satan & his angels were cast out from Heaven ( Revelation 12:9; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6). Therefore, I too understand that those OT passages have references to both those rulers, but also to the satanic spirit that moved in them, hence the very specific references to Satan being cast out as well. And yet, Satan will once again manifest himself mightily in the person of Anti-Christ ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3,4).
4. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat