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  • S Spencer - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi Momsage.

    You said, "First of all, I said nothing about Christians having to do rituals.

    It's very simple: This is how a true believer loves the 10 commandments.

    End quote.

    Momsage I wasn't referring to Christians when I mentioned the rituals.

    I said, "Our worship of God is directed by our love for Him, Not by Command and rituals".

    I was contrasting the way the Samaritan woman knew as worship, which is the way Israel worshipped in the OT.

    That is what the Lord was telling her. These were the ceremonial practices.

    There were commands given concerning the Moral law, Ceremonial law, and Judicial law.

    The ceremonial laws seem to focus the attention on God.

    They include instructions on regaining right standing with God. ("sacrifices and other ceremonies regarding "uncleanness"), Remembrances of God's work in Israel. ("feasts and festivals"),

    Specific regulations meant to distinguish Israelites from their pagan neighbors ("dietary and clothing restrictions"), and signs that point to the coming Messiah.

    I never said anything about the 10 Commandments.

    God bless.
  • JuliePatricia Castel - 7 months ago
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  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hey Jaz,

    Amen, scripture is clear if we open our eyes and ears, clear our minds, and open our hearts.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Regina Byars - 7 months ago
    Oh Lord! How Loving and gracious and merciful you are! How Kind, compassionate are your ways! Many are The afflictions of the righteous but you deliver us out of them all. You are a Healer and you are close to the broken hearted and those with a contrite spirit. You care about all suffering of any kind! And you are right there by our side! Blessed are those who suffer for they shall be comforted. You have counted every tear as a thousand, all we have in this life is you... bring peace, healing and deliverance and comfort for only you can Lord!

    Jesus! Watch over all families of the World, there is not a day that we don't need you. Thank you God for holding us in your hands! We need you always and forever! Thank you Father for all you do! Thank you for Jesus Christ our Lord, Savior and REDEEMER! our Blood Covering who is The Way! The Truth! The Life! No one comes unto The Father but through Christ Jesus! Thank you for the Holy Spirit! Thank you in advance for every healing miracle through the blood of Jesus The Lamb of God in Jesus name Amen
  • Regina Byars - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi

    I touch and agree with you by faith that you be healed and set free from all that binds you! I touch and agree by faith that your walk and faith be increased 100 fold and multiplied and be a testimony that God Grace! Mercy and Miracles still work! By faith! By faith when you are Healed testify that God has healed you! May God perfect Will be done for his purpose and for his glory! In the name of Jesus Christ our Redeemer! Our Savior! And our intercessor! Thank him in advance for your healing!

    Thank him all day everyday until you see it happening its by faith that you ask for prayer in faith believe that you are Healed! Speak without doubt! Trust with all your heart and bin your mind! When you get a negative thought cast it down! Replace it with God you are Jehovah Rapha I am healed! When you put I am in front of anything you say that is Good you are putting GOD in front of your faith, in front of your beliefs, God has to be first always. I am healed! I am whole and complete! I am Freed and delivered! I am faithful! I am a Disciple! I am The righteousness of God! I am walking in God's promises! I am a walking, talking, breathing testimony! I am a miracle child! I am Redeemed! I am forgiven! I am grateful and thankful! When you praise, with your spirit heart, mind and soul you are seated in Heavenly places! Seek him daily! His righteousness and truth! Read your Bible and search the scriptures for Jim he will give you peace and the desires of your heart in Yeshua name Amen! Take care and God Bless you! Blessings Miracle Child.
  • Regina Byars - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi

    Father Abba we thank you and give you praise! For you alone are worthy of the highest praise! Glory and Honor to your name Father! You are all merciful, powerful and mighty! We praise you in all things! Thank you for your son Jesus Christ! The King of Kings and The Lord of Lord's! That sits on your right hand! He is our Blood sacrifice for all sins! Our redeemer and intercessor! Thank you for your sacrifice Yeshua! Cover us this day! By your blood Yeshua as we come into agreement on behalf of our brother who battles anxiety in his mind! I plead the blood Jesus over him! I bind the spirit of lack that comes to torture him! I bind the spirit of not enogh that's coming upon him! In the name of Yeshua, your blood saves, frees, covers and restores and makes us whole again and reconciles us back to the Father of all Creation! The blood of Jesus is against The Enemies of God! I loose Peace unto him now in faith! I loose Protection unto him! By The Blood of Jesus Christ The Lamb of God! The only begotten son of God The Father who Reigns Supreme in Heaven and Earth! The powers of darkness shall not Prevail against his vessel! In The name of Jesus Christ our Lord! Loose him now! In the name of Jesus! Amen.

    Google Derek Prince he is a teacher and pastor who has now past over.

    But he teaches on generational curses and how to be delivered from it.

    It's call Breaking generational curses it a podcast and there are also sermons.

    Let her listen to them.

    I know she must replace though thoughts with thoughts of Thanksgiving to God!

    Spiritual warfare is real in the mind.

    If she has thoughts that are negative

    Go into praise mode.

    Like thank you God for my family

    Thank you for my life!

    Thank you for your protection

    Thank you gor your Grace

    Thank you for Jesus! Thank you for your Holy Spirit! Thank him for everything every time thoughts thoughts come up! Have her to journal also her Thankfulness too! That spirit must flee! I love you! OK! Keep praying without cease
  • Regina Byars - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Oh Lord! How Loving and gracious and merciful you are! How Kind, compassionate are your ways! Many are The afflictions of the righteous but you deliver us out of them all. You are a Healer and you are close to the broken hearted and those with a contrite spirit. You care about all suffering of any kind! And you are right there by our side! Blessed are those who suffer for they shall be comforted. You have counted every tear as a thousand, all we have in this life is you... bring peace, healing and deliverance and comfort for only you can Lord!

    Jesus! Watch over all families of the World, there is not a day that we don't need you. Thank you God for holding us in your hands! We need you always and forever! Thank you Father for all you do! Thank you for Jesus Christ our Lord, Savior and REDEEMER! our Blood Covering who is The Way! The Truth! The Life! No one comes unto The Father but through Christ Jesus! Thank you for the Holy Spirit! Thank you in advance for every healing miracle through the blood of Jesus The Lamb of God in Jesus name Amen
  • Kevin J Bruneau - 7 months ago
    God, please do not send me to the hospital, do not let anyone else do it either. the high school graduation of my son is but days away.

    Great are the mercies of The Lord, let me not fall into the hands of men.

    No high principle, only fear, Master of heaven and earth.

    The accident at work was an accident, Father in heaven.

    I appeal to thy mercies. I need thy forgiveness and pardon and beg to thee for it.

    God of my father, through the Son of God Jesus Christ and thy Spirit of life, heal me of my injuries, that I may do what I said I would do, that I may do good for my son, wife, and family.

    With no rightness of my own, only fear, sorrow over my past sin and failure,

    Please God, remember the good you have given us and preserve it.

    Hold not thy peace at my tears, O God, spare me for thy pardon's sake.

    Turn wrath and calamity away from us, Jesus Christ the Healer, let it please thee to be my Advocate also.
  • Regina Byars - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Thank you Father! Thank you Jesus! Thank you Holy Spirit! How wonderful and Powerful you are! You are merciful and kind! You love us and care for us! You are for us! You are a HEALER! you are JEHOVAH RAPHA! By your Stripes we are Healed from every infirmity! You are a restorer! You are Jehovah Jireh meeting every provision for your people! We rest in you! Our hope is in you! We praise your Holy name! And thank you in advance for your supernatural power! Your miracle You are the children's Bread! We are miracle children dead to sin but resurrected with Christ! Seated in Heavenly Places! We hid in you! We rest assured that you have it all. The Blood of Jesus cures! Heals and Strengthen and gives life! In Yeshua's name, amen
  • Regina Byars - In Reply - 7 months ago
    I agree with this prayer! God you are a Healer! You are Jehovah Rapha! We trust your WILL and Plan! Father of Lights! Father of all Creation! By Your Strioes we are Healed! We are Whole! Free! Delivered! In Yeshua name Amen
  • Momsage - In Reply - 7 months ago
    I say Amen to everything you have said except we do have to go further with God's commandment then just try. The Holy Ghost is with us so we CAN obey them. If you read then carefully in Exodus 20: 1-17, and Deuteronomy 5:22-33, you will see these are the God's guidelines to how we MUST live our lives for God in order to make it in.

    It's very simple: This is how a true believer and the 10 commandments are related to each other.

    1) True believers worship the one true God and will not have any other Gods to worship.

    2) A true believer does NOT make images nor bow down to them.

    3) True believers do not take the name of the Lord in vain.

    4) True believers set aside one day for rest.

    5) A true believer always gives respect and shows kindness to all people but especially to parents. 6) A true believer does not

    murder

    7) A true believer does not have sex with anyone in person or in mind except their spouse.

    8) A true believer does not steal

    9) A true believer does not lie (not matter how big or little a lie is or what color it is, a lie is a lie)

    10) A true believer is not jealous. God Bless :)
  • Momsage - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Oops, sorry I accidently sent it twice. God Bless :)
  • Momsage - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi S Spencer:

    You said: "Our worship of God is directed by our love for Him, Not by Command and rituals.

    First of all, I said nothing about Christians having to do rituals.. You are separating the love of God from His commandments as if there is something wrong but God said in John 14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    It's very simple: This is how a true believer loves the 10 commandments

    1) True believers worship the one true God and will not have any other Gods to worship.

    2) A true believer does NOT make images nor bow down to them.

    3) True believers do not take the name of the Lord in vain.

    4) True believers set aside one day for rest.

    5) A true believer always gives respect and shows kindness to all people but especially to parents. 6) A true believer does not murder

    7) A true believer does not have sex with anyone in person or in mind except their spouse.

    8) A true believer does not steal

    9) A true believer does not lie (not matter how big or little a lie is or what color it is, a lie is a lie)

    10) A true believer is not jealous. God Bless :)
  • Momsage - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi S Spencer:

    A true believer's connection to the 10 commandments is simply that they obey them.

    1) True believers worship the one true God and will not have any other Gods to worship.

    2) A true believer does NOT make images nor bow down to them.

    3) True believers do not take the name of the Lord in vain.

    4) True believers set aside one day for rest.

    5) A true believer always gives respect and shows kindness to all people but especially to parents.

    6) A true believer does not murder

    7) A true believer does not have sex with anyone in person or in mind except their spouse.

    8) A true believer does not steal

    9) A true believer does not lie (not matter how big or little or what color it is, a lie is a lie)

    10) A true believer is not jealous. God Bless :)
  • Regina Byars - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi

    Father Abba we thank you and give you praise! For you alone are worthy of the highest praise! Glory and Honor to your name Father! You are all merciful, powerful and mighty! We praise you in all things! Thank you for your son Jesus Christ! The King of Kings and The Lord of Lord's! That seats on your right hand! He is our Blood sacrifice for all sins! Our redeemer and intercessor! Thank you for your sacrifice Yeshua! Cover us this day! By your blood! Yeshua as we come into agreement on behalf of our sister who battles anxiety in her mind! I plead the blood Jesus over her! I bind the spirit of mental illness that comes to torture her! I bind the spirit of suicide that's coming upon her! In the name of Yeshua, your blood saves, frees, covers and restores and makes us whole again and reconciles us back to the Father of all Creation! The blood of Jesus is against The Enemies of God! I loose Peace unto her now in faith! I loose Protection unto her! By The Blood of Jesus Christ The Lamb of God! The only begotten son of God The Father who Reigns Supreme in Heaven and Earth! The powers of darkness shall not Prevail against her vessel! In The name of Jesus Christ our Lord! Loose her now! In the name of Jesus! Amen.

    Google Derek Prince he is a teacher and pastor who has now past over.

    But he teaches on generational curses and how to be delivered from it.

    It's call Breaking generational curses it a podcast and there are also sermons.

    Let her listen to them.

    I know she must replace though thoughts with thoughts of Thanksgiving to God!

    Spiritual warfare is real in the mind.

    If she has thoughts that are negative

    Go into praise mode.

    Like thank you God for my family

    Thank you for my life!

    Thank you for your protection

    Thank you gor your Grace

    Thank you for Jesus! Thank you for your Holy Spirit! Thank him for everything every time thoughts thoughts come up! Have her to journal also her Thankfulness too! That spirit must flee! I love you! OK! Keep praying without cease
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Something to pray about

    I had an elder brother in the faith; who I respect very much challenge me today in regard to always trying to understand certain concepts; today the issue specifically was in regard to the passages that state "I never knew you" after all the self proclaimed actions of the individuals only showed they did things in their own power or God worked despite that. I was told not to focus on WHY so much and concentrate on my own walk; devotions; evangelism; etc. It was brought to my attention that he knew someone who was downcast after hoarding an entire room of perhaps hundreds of books (I assume not Bibles per se) to get certain answers.

    I thought but after a couple attempts to explain I gave up (and the service was about to start) that I was genuinely seeking answers to scripture; and did note that he had a bad experience with the Charismatic and Pentacostal crowd in the past (who I was busy explaining had a differing view on the Trinity). I was bringing up a point which I tried to explore here; as to why those who are into the Oneness Gospel often have a couple other traits. I bring this up because perhaps he was warning me of hanging out with that crowd and not trying to figure out what goes on there. It seems from what I could gather that he was saying that emotionalism wasn't something to be counted upon in general.

    In regard to this site and my postings; I am concerned of my own motives as well as the time spent discussing various doctrinal issues primarily as being something I am doing for my own entertainment or just to get attention. I certainly enjoy the company here albeit there is usually only a few who respond at least regularly. I do have a desire to warn against the subtle devices of the enemy; as well as how news especially internationally is skewed and attempt to present it from a Biblical viewpoint not just what necessarily is accepted as "Christian".

    Should my focus change on what I discuss here? Insight?

    Agape
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Amen Brother Jesse.

    When we think of worship we often don't touch the surface of what it really means.

    God bless.
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  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    Comment on Daniel 9:26-27 for meditation:

    26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off (crucified), but not for Himself: and the people of the prince that shall come (the esoteric and kabbalistic false messiah- John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11) shall DESTROY the CITY (Jerusalem) and the SANCTUARY-> Revelation 13:2->the dragon, the esoteric false messiah of Judaism- Revelation 13:11 gave(will give) him (will give to the Beast of sea-ruler of Catholicism) his Power, and his Throne, and great Authority.; and the END thereof shall be with a flood( Luke 21:24; Revelation 11:2; Revelation 12:15?), and unto the END of the WAR ( Revelation 16:13-15) desolations are determined.

    27 And he (the profane prince of Israel that shall come- Ezekiel 21:25, John 5:43-47; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week(covenant with the whole religious structures of the RCC-Judaism and Catholicism- Revelation 13:2): and in the midst of the week( Revelation 13:5) he- the profane wicked prince of Israel, the false messiah- shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease ( 2Thessalonians 2:6-9), and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation ( Revelation 16:13-15), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    GOD bless and get ready
  • David Allen - 7 months ago
    Please pray for me and my daughters and their families
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Annotated Genesis- Ge.1:1

    "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

    Heaven

    " For ever, O Lord, thy word is settled in heaven."(Ps.119:89)

    "Forever"refers to Jesus Christ the same, yesterday, today and forever."(He.13:8) Thy word is eternal that determines the coveneant between the Father and the Son as everlasting. Moses was a servant whereas Jesus Christ as the Son is the fulfillment of Law. Thus blessings stipulated in the covenant is for all believers where faith determines his pedigree. "And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her./The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there." In his Son every believer has hs foundation in heaven. That is faith. His works is his life. "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."(2 Ti.2:19; John 1:4). In Jesus he abides. " In him was life; and the life was the light of men." So his life of witnessing is here and now while he is founded on Zion in heaven. Nothing less.

    Heaven also signifies his life of testimony. Trinity as memorial must be as a sign. "And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes."(De.6:6) Jesus of Nazareth showed holiness of God with his life. His testimony as evident in the multiplying loaves was as testimony to the Word forever settled in heaven.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Ge.1 annotated

    Having covered the Salvation Plan in broad brushstrokes I shall now attend to the everlasting covenant verse by verse.

    "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

    In the beginning refers to Jesus Christ in his Alpha Aspect. In the beginning was the Word. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God./The same was in the beginning with God./All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made./ In him was life; and the life was the light of men." God as a Being has his order. Two worlds which are framed by the Word. In He.11:3 we have these worlds defined as unseen as well as seen. Faith is the quality of Holiness of invisible Being seen. "Be ye holy for I am holy" sets Jesus Christ in focus. "But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption."(1 Co.1:3o) Jesus is real since the wisdom of the Word renders holiness of God as doable. Wisdom principle that the Son represents and Power of God, the Father gives us the order. The two worlds forever exist upon this order.

    When the Word became flesh, death of Jesus revealed the Power of the Father."Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it."(Ac.2:24)

    Word as the eternal word forever settled in heaven validates the Omega aspect of Jesus Christ (Ps.110:89) Two worlds framed by the word of God set an order where Power of God and Wisdom of the Son establish the definition of holiness which man may enter only by faith and nothing else.Thus God the Father represents the spirit aspect of Trinity; God the Son the body and the brightness of His glory the soul or the heart of God.
  • Chris - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Anyway Momsage, thank you for your time & interest in this important subject. I can see that we won't find agreement concerning the reason & implications for the giving of the Decalogue. And for me to discuss what you have just written would require much more time, so I will withdraw for now. Every blessing upon you.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    1Co.15:28 "Envoi "

    Last in this series let us look what it is to be 'That God may be all in all.' So the superscription refers to the day of regeneration. "Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power."(v.24). St Paul refers to the saying of Jesus and rounding off the Spirit of truth in his ministry. "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."( John 14:2-23)

    Jesus refers to it as 'In that day'. Remember the body aspect of Trinity as a memorial? It covers the heaven the earth and the lower parts. Here we read how all enemies to Christ have been finally disposed off. "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works./And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death./And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."(Re.20:13-15) The sea giving up the dead is fulfillment of this verse, "The Lord sitteth upon the flood; yea, the Lord sitteth King for ever."(Ps.29:10)The term forever refers to the Son. "that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.in" This is what God 'be all in all' signifies.

    Before that to happen we have this verse in the Book of Isaiah to consider. "And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."(Is.2:4)

    "And the nations of the which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it."(Re.21:24)
  • GiGi - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Thanks Ronald, I look forward to more conversations with you.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Brother Spencer, great response! True worship is from the heart. True worship is submission to God.

    If I may add a little information here, the word worship in the New Testament, also found here in John 4:24 has absolutely nothing to do with external activities, including singing. The word literally means to bow down and kiss the ring of somebody.

    In other words, if you are coming into the presence of the king, you bow down, you get on your knee, and you kiss his ring. And then he will lift the scepter and you'll be able to talk. But you cannot talk until you express your submission and reverence.

    You see, true worship is submission. It is obedience. It doesn't mean we can't sing, but that in the Bible is called singing. True worshipers worship, and remember what it means, to bow down, to submit. True worshipers worship God in spirit and in truth. Submitting to His truth and reverencing His truth is the highest form of worship.

    Jesus quoted from Isaiah in one place and said, "Well did Isaiah say of you that you honor me with your lips but your heart is far from me." He says I get tired of you going and performing your religious vows and all your singing and whatever when your heart is not even lined up with what you're doing.



    God looks on the heart, and man looks on the outward appearance. It is unacceptable to Him. God is Spirit. Everybody that gives genuine worship to God worships Him in Spirit. We are to surrender to His Spirit and surrender to His truth. That is the highest form of worship!

    Blessings!
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hi Momsage.

    In John 4:20 the Samaritan woman at the well said "Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.

    She is referring to centrality of the temple in worship where the ceremonies were performed.

    Jesus is saying the day has come where worshiping the Lord in spirit and truth is that worship of God is not to be confined to a single geographical location or necessarily regulated by the of Old Testament law.

    Worship became a matter of the heart, not external actions, and directed by truth rather than ceremony.

    Our worship of God is directed by our love for Him, Not by Command and rituals.

    Ti worship in spirit this way was prophesied in Ezekiel 36:27.

    "And I will put my spirit within you, AND CAUSE YOU TO WALK IN MY STATUTES, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

    This is the work of the Holyspirit.

    God bless.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Addendum to Prosperity Teacher postings.

    As stated in some comments some months ago; we should still be able to trust God in regard to His Word; and that indeed He can and will prosper people financially. In this world we should adhere to 1 Timothy 6:17

    Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

    Some are born into riches; others earn it through hard work and God's Providence of resulting financial success. Money is uncertain and we can't put our trust in things that "moth and rust" corrupt ( Matt. 6:19).

    Certainly it isn't Pastors who should be cornering the market or seeking "filthy lucre" ( Titus 1:11 AND 1 Peter 5:2). The best they can hope for is making it into heaven as through the fire; but there is probably a much better chance they aren't saved at all. Only God knows but why make that lifestyle your legacy?

    What we see today is more of these so called "Apostles" dying; while others making half hearted "repentance" statements then continuing on with the sin of covetousness; much like the parable of a dog returning to its own vomit ( Proverbs 26:11). We certainly bring nothing into this world and we aren't taking anything out ( 1 Timothy 6:7). What we can do is gain heavenly treasure by harvesting souls ( Matt. 6:19).

    He who covers or conceals his sin is not doing themselves any favors. ( Proverbs 28:13). It actually says the man will not prosper. There are enough warnings in scripture including to the Pharisees as to the spiritual ramifications of continuing in such behaviors and many others in the Old Testament as well.

    Ultimately; the desire for fame and popularity is tied into those with this narcissistic mindset and lifestyle. All will be lost after this life; which is as a vapor has passed. Let us live lives in strict obedience and holiness not due to compulsion but love and gratitude for what Christ did for us.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Final wrap up for now on Prosperity teaching.

    Starting with the age of TV evangelists; and now advancing further with internet sermons and so called "crusades"; we often have no real basis for determining what is really happening on the ground in regard to how the money is spent; except of course for promotionals that a church produces to promote its own ministry when it comes to prosperity preachers in particular. Discipleship is often lacking. There are some Pentecostals that no doubt have very strict regulations; but as with many of the fundamental megachurches; a double standard often exists for leadership. Let's face it; it is rare anywhere to get anyone in leadership roles to admit they struggle with sin or any wrongdoing; unless of course they are caught in the act of misappropriating funds; or some other immoral act. Damage control; no doubt is steeped in the training of staff (again a tactic of dictators) to keep loyal supporters. Anything but greed is given as an excuse for out of control spending. This; of course leads to what I would call "self fulfilling prophecies" where anything untoward or scandalous is turned to the Pastor or "Apostle" or Prophet being a victim of circumstances; things we hear often from politicians. When justification is given for another spending spree of course it is some dream or vision of great "revival" which of course no one else is qualified to initiate that demands money.

    I want to stop at this point and acknowledge that the irony here is that if such megapastors TRULY wanted people to prosper they would feel threatened; they would rather make some inane proclamation of return 100 fold than say invest in precious metals; save; invest with a long term goal rather than short term benefits. They of course don't know how to wait on God; and make the fatal error often that only God can give financial success rather than the evil one.

    I can see murdurers truly repenting rather than some of these crooks.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Prosperity teachers: Mind games.

    HEALTH

    Having discussed briefly the desires of the flesh for money that convince people (supposedly) that they too can have mountains of cash or at least a foothill or two if they sow generously to the megachurch we turn our attention to the other major appeal; that is of healings. As long as botox and plastic surgery keep the preacher (or "Apostle" or "prophet") from looking as crooked as their heart is they can hold some leverage; to those foolish enough to believe them to the concept that somehow they have locked into some sort of "healing ministry" that they can attach to their official title. It reminds me of the Jethro Tull song "Wind up" where he says "he's not the kind you have to wind up on Sundays" as one of his lines describing God. The same could be said for his song "My God" where the hypocricy of those who use a "plastic crucifix" is mocked. Sometimes we can find more wisdom with secular music than so called "Christian."

    At any "road" as they say in England; if they can't sell you the concept of healing they will also often promote products that are; of course overpriced that are organic or something to that effect to keep your appearance younger. It appears almost always the evidence of so called healings have no factual backup; such as names; places or verifiable witnesses. Emotional healings of course aren't as easily verified and spiritual change is more than hype and drama. I am not a "cessationist" in principle; but would venture to say that any true miracle isn't something which should be made a spectacle; just as any true conversion has lasting power as based on John 15:5 about remaining in Him. If there is a true miracle of God it certainly isn't to promote a particular ministry but to give glory to God. It also; no doubt will bring the same sort of persecution that happened during the time of Christ. The same could be said about tongues; another thing these churches tend to emphasize.


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