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Peter was kind of gruff and rough around the edges Until he met Jesus. Peter was a fisherman but he had a healthy knowledge of scripture. The ways he changed, following Jesus on his travels is remarkable. (Except for the "ear" incident.

The Pharisees were powerful, but they thought themselves far above the "regular people".

Jesus is the son of God, but He was very grounded as a human. He identified with everyone. He communicated laterally; not high above other peoples experience. People naturally gravitate to someone who speaks their language: uncomplicated and down to earth.

Jesus didn't entertain people. He taught on their level of experience. Quite a difference between Pharisees and Fishermen, Tax collectors and women followers.

It takes being versatile I think. I like people who can make me see things from their view. Jesus was anointed in Luke 4:18. He had all gifts of the Holy Spirit. You can often see the word of knowledge in operation.

I don't think people care for how we all communicate to each other these days. Media and social networks have brought us down to levels never experienced before in history. Our President uses buzz words. Word fights in Congress too.

I notice a man who has temperance and an elegance of thought and speech; someone who unites and divides, intelligently (emphasis on gently). I also think we should be forgiving when it's merited; because Jesus taught it.

I watch speeches ALOT. I like someone who keeps emotions level, and presses for the "point". I think good use of humor is genius.

Praise God! keep Jesus as our point of reference.

Ask Him Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved He has done it all for us we can't add to it even though people try to add something we do

You need only ask Him to Dave you

Dear Ronald.

Here you have stated your "creed". I certainly agree with it.

But we are told in Jude 4 to contend for the faith passed down to us. so, this implies there was in place a set of doctrines that

comprised the essence of the Christian faith taught by the apostles. So, you are right that there is not a mention of a "creed" we

are to hold to in Scriptures, but there definitely was a set of doctrines passed down we are expected to hold to. This essentially

is another way to speak of a "creed".

But I understand your point.

In the time where the Bible was not printed for common use and with very limited access to the actual written letters and

gospels of the NT writers and apostles, believers had to rely on being taught this set of essential doctrines as a measure of

truth. God knew that this would be so. He provided for the communication of the gospel and the doctrines of faith to be spread

and learned by those who would come to believe. You can read the Apostles Creed I included in my reply to Jay. Please tell me

if there is any doctrine included in this creed that is unbiblical and also how your statements of faith differ from a creed.

I am not trying to be contrary here, as that is not my point nor intention. I just want to encourage discussion on this matter so

that we all can be stimulated to growth and understanding.

Dear one, go on YouTube and type in GREG LAURIE.

He's a Pastor of Harvest Church. The whole church participates in evangelism. He's a really great guy. Probably about your dads age. He has an "all purpose testimony like mine". You should read it to know what he's about.

If you subscribe all his most recent sermons will appear on your "home" button in the YouTube app.

Sometimes we have to go to some flaky churches to find one that really gets us involved.

I'm praying for you to find a true place of rest, like Psalm 23, describes. Keep coming back here when you have time. I love new faces. Make comments too. :D

Dear brothers/sisters

In Daniel's Book ( Daniel 2:31-45) the last kingdom in earth's history that will rule on earth is described:

V40 - And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

V41 - And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

V42 - And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

V43 - And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Assuming that we live at the very end of this world, what do you think, which modern nation/country looks like that kingdom?

My opinion, as well as many christians' over here, is that it looks like the European Union, what do you think about it?

Amen, Daniel, there is an outreach to be made to Catholics as well as "nominal believers" in many denominations. These people are not outside of the reach of the work of the Holy Spirit should we reiterate the Gospel to them again and again until the work of the Holy Spirit is completed in them.

I know many Catholics who believed as you did. I just keep telling them the fullness of the Gospel as often as opportunity arises and pray for the Holy Spirit to bring His work in them to completion.

I also know Catholics who truly have embraced the Gospel and become born again as a Catholic. Some have remained in the Catholic church and others have been called out of it. God leaves a witness!

Thanks Suze,

In the times before the printing press and personal bibles, believers did not study the whole of Scriptures like we do. They were

taught by their "overseers" (pastors, teachers, elders, bishops) the Scriptures and doctrines of the faith taught to them by the

apostles. Not all of what the apostles taught was recorded in written form. Most of it was passed on by oral presentation and

memorization. This is why "creeds"-which is Greek for "I believe" where developed. Each church planted in the early church era

had what they called the "rule of faith" which was a kind of "creed" that was what we now call "a statement of faith" (which is

similar to a creed or confession). This rule of faith was a summary of the necessary beliefs that the church congregation

communally held that explained the beliefs that were deemed essential for a professing Christian to hold to and teach others.

Today, if someone were to ask a believer what they believe as a Christian, that person would relay to the inquirer their own

"creed". In the case of the early church and the later creeds, having believers attest to a common creed (at of essential or core

beliefs concerning true faith and salvation) ensured common doctrine within the church, promoted unity of belief across

generations, gave a basis of truth to teach children, aided in evangelism, and provided within a believer a guard against false

doctrine, and for the church, a "measuring rod" to use to evaluate potential false doctrine.

The Apostles' creed was not written by any of the apostles, but is called such because it reflected the core beliefs taught by

them. The individual tenets taught in the Apostles Creed can be matched to Scriptural teaching.

I read on a site that provided this match-up. If I can find it again, I will post it.

Whenever I recite the Apostles Creed or the Nicene creed with other believers, I am glad to be in the company of those who

profess the same faith

Hope this helps you.

Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Thessalonians 4:13 - But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

Revelation 21:4 - And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Ecclesiastes 3

I'm 70. Been to some funerals. My generation is passing on, but those of us left can leave some hope with our young people just carving out their futures.

People like me, have seen a lot, done a lot and still have more time left. Do you have time for me or for the aged relatives in your life? I would LOVE to sit at Isaiah's feet and hear what he saw in chapter 1. I would like to get inside Paul's head in the days he was blinded by seeing Jesus on that Road. Every time Jacob got through something impossibly hard, he would build a pile of stones and leave the memory there. I have lots of questions_still.

It's good to ask questions, dig like an archaeologist in the Bible. Sift out every detail you can.

Evangelize. Pass on what you've sifted out of the Bible. Tell the Stories like Jesus did.

It's not right for the elderly to die with their stories still untold. Those are bricks we lean on, when life sends humanquakes. I'm taking my stories to heaven. There'll be billions I can tell them to :)

Likein the 60's we didn't ink up our bodies with tatoos. We used washable paint and went swimming after. It was fun. We waded in fountains. Racism was taught by politicians. We didn't segregate our paint & swim parties.

Church picnics were not segregated. I ate everyone's chicken! I hate what America has become. Jesus didn't teach it either. If only we would follow Jesus!

Yes, Giannas, you are correct on this.

Thanks Jesse, that is funny. Glad I made that typo!

Janet D:

1 John 2:27 For the anointing that you have received of him abideth IN YOU, and you need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

The hardest thing, is THIS DYING TO SELF, and coming to TRUTH that the LIFE, IN US, IS CHRIST.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN OF GOD doth not commit sin .....he cannot sin because he is BORN OF GOD

Why can't you commit sin; because the life IN YOU IS CHRIST.

Philippians 1:27 ... this mystery .... CHRIST IN YOU .....

If you pick up a pencil, it's not you, IT'S CHRIST, if you drive the car, it's not you, it's Christ, if you help you neighbor, it' not you, it's Christ, ETC.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my Spirit (life) WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE YOU (his body) to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgements and DO THEM.

God speaks to you through HIS WORDS (the bible), the more you study, the more he speaks.

To whom much is GIVEN (the life of Christ); much more is GIVEN (the MIND OF CHRIST).

Ask and ye shall receive.

God Bless You as YOU DIE TO HIS WORDS and are GIVEN LIFE BY THOSE SAME WORDS.

Linda,

I agree with Jesse, here.

Satan is a fallen angel as well as a devil. So Jesus was addressing Satan who was influencing Peter to speak against Jesus going to Jerusalem and be killed. He told Satan to get behind Him, because He recognized the work of Satan in Peter in that moment. he was delivering Peter from this influence at this time.

As for Judas, he was a man, like every other mad, unredeemed and easily brought under the influence of Satan or a devil. Jesus loved Judas and spoke about one of His disciples being a devil to let Judas know who was influencing him at that time.

Only God knows the heart of any person and se I feel it is best to leave the determination of any person's final judgment up to God. We really do not know if Judas was irredeemable or not.

But in this time after Jesus' death and resurrection, we can assure people that they can receive salvation and eternal life because of this sacrifice of Jesus and His triumph over sin, death, Satan, and hell. As believers we can have the assurance of salvation because of the power of the word of the Gospel brought to us by the hearing of the death and resurrection of Jesus, through the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit that brings us to faith.

Peter and Judas, at this time in the life of Jesus was prior to His death and resurrection. Judas, unfortunately hung himself in sorrow and regret before He saw the fulfillment of what Jesus had said would happen. Peter did live to see this fulfillment and became one chosen to deliver the gospel to all nations and witness the converting work of the Holy Spirit in his own life, in the life of the other apostles, and in those he brought the Gospel to over the remaining years of his life.

how many verses are in the kjv bible

Yes, this is the "Good News" we are to tell others-that their sins are forgiven in the name of Jesus, by the power of Jesus, through the blood sacrifice of Jesus!

Exodus 32:20

"Then he took the calf which they had made, burned it int he fire, and ground it to a powder; and he scattered it on the water and he made the children of Israel drink it."

Interesting how the Israelites had to literally consume the golden calf idol they had demanded Aaron to make and had given him the gold to create it.

In this way they were made to "own" their idolatry and this action of drinking the water with the ground powder of the idol mixed in demonstrates that sin comes from within us and is manifested outwardly.

Thanks to all.

Thank you, I believe if someone asks you to bless them, or can you forgive me, I say to them, believe all your sins forgiven in Jesus name and precious Blood. Or close to that.

Linda,

Your example seems to fall a little short in showing that Peter was a devil. I say this because if you go to the very next verse ( John 6:71), it tells us who Jesus was referring to, and it was not Peter. It says that "Jesus spoke of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve."

Also, Jesus never called Peter Satan. That is a misapplication of what Jesus was saying. I do agree with you that Judas was a traitor. He was also a thief. And he was evil from the very beginning. There is nothing in scripture that would lead us to believe that Peter was evil.

If you read when Moses led the Jews out of Egypt, they took anything of value they were hiding in their luggage, with them.

When Moses went up the mountain and was gone 40 days, they thought maybe Moses was dead, and got restless.

Dathan volunteered to be a leader and suggested they make an idol. The Golden Calf god of Egypt. Out comes all the loot they were hiding. It was melted. Moses's brother Aaron was forced to carve it. They were just getting into an idolatrous party when Moses runs into Joshua half way down the mountain. Moses after a 40 day fast, was upset. When SOME people realized Moses was alive, they knew they'd been lied to. The got behind Moses. God opened a crevasse in the ground and all of the idol worshippers were swallowed up with the golden calf.

It would follow that after that, they had no more gold trinkets. They had Moses to lead them again. They wandered 40 years in the desert, until all the Older People died of natural causes. God was not going to take them into His Promised Land.

Only the young people followed Joshua into the promised land. Even Moses died on the mountain and did not go into the Promised Land. God let him see it.

I love the stories and people of the Bible. I paraphrase when evangelizing. Jesus told stories too. Your walk with Jesus will explode if you'll spend time reading the stories; soaking up the facts along the way.

One time God couldn't find a prophet, to prophesy; so he used a donkey. God wants so much to bless us-his children! It's in reading the stories that we are calmed on WHO GOD IS. He is LOVE.

If you read Samuel, Kings and Chronicles together (as we do with the Gospels, you will begin to understand the God of the Bible. Each book adds details and attributes. God is not mean or unfair; unreasonable. He doesn't constrain us.

The New Testament doesn't constrain us. We don't need a trumpet to be sounded to pick up where Jesus left off. He said GO YE. Go into your world.

GiGi,

I kind of liked OOPOS. It sort of sounds Greek for oops.

Sorry, but I couldn't resist!

Hi Elle.

Great question., Here's a few scriptures you can look over that may have answers to your questions.I would chime in when time permits. In the meantime hopefully someone can help us.

NOTICE THE PROMISES AND COVENANT MADE BY GOD WITH NO PARTICIPATION ALLOWED BY MAN.

Genesis 15:1-12.

Genesis 17:18-19.

Romans 9:6-9.

Galatians 4:22-31.

EMPHASIS.

This Promised Covenant is the work of God and can't be annulled by man.

Likewise you see a similar method as a allegory in the birth of Jacob and Essau.

Gods elected way, "By grace ".

Romans 9:10-12. And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;

(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

All for now

God bless.

GOOGLE

JOEL:2:32 Commentary, Bible, Meaning

or history, or Geneology, or Teaching

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

JOEL 2:28-32

The promise began to be fulfilled on the day of Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit was poured out, and it was continued in the converting grace and miraculous gifts conferred on both Jews and Gentiles.

The judgments of God upon a sinful world, only go before the judgment of the world in the last day. Calling on God supposes knowledge of him, faith in him, desire toward him, dependence on him, and, as evidence of the sincerity of all this, conscientious obedience to him.

Those ONLY shall be delivered in the great day, who are now effectually called from sin to God, from self to Christ, from things below to things above.

[mishael: from other commentaries I read, the inference is that "casual Christians" may be goats we read of in other scriptures in the New Testament]

You can put your scripture in Google like this, and read some of the longer commentaries by Bible scholars. On any scripture you have questions about.

I need Jesus Christ the son of the living Gog to be my Lord and saviour, how can i do that?

That is by far, the best explanation I've seen. I definitely missed that one sentence that states "From the firstborn of Pharaoh". God bless you abundantly and keep you and your family safe in these days! Thank you

The word Trinity came through the Catholic religion. Triune means three.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit are called THE GODHEAD in scripture; in the approved KING JAMES BIBLE.

There are many, many scriptures showing the Godhead working together; and speaking to each other.

Paul clears it up in ROMANS 1:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who HOLD THE TRUTH in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath SHOWED IT unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are without excuse

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

[The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.]

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

(there are many more)

I hope this helps you. Mishael

James chapter 1.5,6,7

a great place to start , to avoid mans slants on scriptures that are many ...

Dear Wisdom Seeker,

Mishael has given you a great way of searching this site for references on wisdom. I would just like say to be careful about James 1:5 because that word wisdom and what that verse means is often misunderstood and misapplied.

Judas was mention in a prophesy in the book of Psalms:

Psalms 41:9 View whole chapter

Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.

Jesus knew of this prophesy before he even met Judas.

Judas opened himself to the scripture.

" The LOVE of money is the root of all evil." He betrayed Jesus for 30 pieces of silver coins.