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What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD.

Philippians 3

1 Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.

2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

17Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.

18(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the ENEMIES of the cross of Christ:

19Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind EARTHLY things.)

20For our conversation is in heaven( Ephesians 1:3); from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:

21Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

Ephesians 6:11-18

11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

13Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God,that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day,and having done all,to stand.

14Stand therefore,having your loins girt about with truth,and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16Above all, taking the shield of faith,wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17And take the helmet of salvation,and the sword of the Spirit,which is the word of God:

18Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit,and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.

What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is from everlasting to everslating, the Word is GOD, self-executing, self-executable. Great mystery.

Revelation 22

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. ( Romans 2:12 - As many as have sinned without Law(the Gentiles) shall also PERISH without Law: and as many as have sinned in the Law(the Jews) shall be Judged by the Law;)

15 Without are dogs(dogs? Isaiah 56:10-11.Take a look), and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

But the fearful(the COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

The Word is GOD, self-executing, self-executable, understand?

You say you are a sinner. I thought you were a born again follower of Christ. How can you be both?

Revelation 19:5-10

5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye his servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth. (combined with Revelation 11:15-18.Take a look).

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the FINE LINEN is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the TESTIMONY of JESUS: worship GOD: for the TESTIMONY of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy.

Wake up and get up quickly

Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath-Mat.25:29. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

The Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, self-executing, self-executable. Remember: around 2000 years ago the Word was made flesh, see what He said: John 5:17.

Spell check messed up part of my reply that is coming up. It should say Christ and the disciples picking and eating corn on the Sabbath out of need. :)

Hi GiGi. Yes there are some things that may be necessary to do on the Sabbath. Get gas or whatever you need to do before Saturday. If you forget and must get it on the Sabbath then this is an exception because it is a need. Like Christ and His deciples eating

Picking corn on Sabbath out if necessity. Common sense is all that is needed to accomplish this obedience so there is no long list of do's abd don't's. Anyone who works on Saturday if they pray and believe God He will make a way out of it. There are plenty of people who have no regard for the things of God who can do what ever needs done. It is not a sin for true believers to worship and fellowship on Sunday. God has only command us to make one day, the seventh, as a complete day of rest and we can also worship since we don't have worldly distractions. Meals could be take out or prepared on Friday like in a slow cooker so everyone can help themselves etc. My whole point is Christians could do it no problem if they wanted to obey this commandment just like the others. God Bless :)

Think it well - Matthew 24:

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be(combined with Daniel 12:1-3 and Revelation 12:7-12).

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved( Romans 9:28): but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ ( John 5:43-47), or there; BELIEVE IT NOT.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets( Isaiah 9:15-16 combined with Revelation 12:3-4), and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. - 25 Behold, I have told you before.

There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Think well

Actually, we GOD's people, we are going together to meet JESUS, and He is coming to meet us, in time and space. So, each day that passes, He gets a little closer of the meeting point, and we who are walking in the way also get a little closer to Him, and the gap between us and JESUS decreases, and the moment will come when JESUS and we will arrive at the indicated time, in the place and space( Ephesians 1:3), as He combined with us, i.e. to be at the exact time and place of the glorious meeting. Hallelujah!

See, it is certain that the day of JESUS 'return is very very close.In my understanding it is the mysterious day 1.335- Daniel 12:12-, i.e.45 days after the end of the Abomination of Desolation of 1,290 days as was prophesied by Daniel. Dan.12:v.11 combined with Dan.9:v.27, both verses direct us to the majestic and indescribable event of JESUS's return.

Time is ticking,ticking,ticking; see,don't sleep,but if you're already asleep, wake up and get up fast, and take in mind that each passing day we are personally closer to JESUS.See how near He is. For meditation: Matthew 25:1-13

GOD BLESS

I love you too GiGi. We are sisters in the Lord. It's true I used quotes for my view by people repeating history but not false doctrine from a book that is not in the bible. Yes we could go on and discuss other things but we shouldn't use scripture from sources that were not scantion by the Holy Ghost.

I read a little of Barnabas and he seemed to believe our hope for eternal life was something we are to strive for if we behave ourselves until we die. Anyway I only answered your reply because it didnt seem right not to. I have decided to stay with this forum but only with you and Christianlady7.

Keeping the SABBATH was a commandment of God not a law of the Jews. Talk to you soon. God Bless :)

Greetings in Christ JESUS

John 17KJV

1These words spake Jesus, and lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

2As thou hast given Him power over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given Him.

3And this is life eternal,that they might know thee the only true GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

4I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. (combined with John 5:17)

5And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

6I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

7Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.

8For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

9I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

See, it is certain that the day of JESUS 'return is very very close. See how near He is, and take in mind that each passing day we are personally closer to JESUS. Time is ticking,ticking,ticking; see,don't sleep, but if you're already asleep, wake up, get up yourself fast.

Think well, we are at each day walking to meet our Lord JESUS- Matthew 25:6- , and He is coming walking to meet us in according He combined- John 14:1-4KJV:

14 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in GOD - the Word is GOD -, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

I don't believe that I have to explain myself to you as none of my posts were sent to you . I used the word aggressive in a post to Giannis because he used it first to me . My other post about the definition of bullying was , as you can see , aimed at no one in particular . As was my question about Mark Ch 9 V 33-42 and Matthew Ch 18 V 1-6 . I feel this site to be a congregation . When I am in my physical congregation , I am very respectful to my elders , I speak to them with kindness and patience . I always try on here to speak to people as if we were face to face in church . That's because I remember that where two or three are gathered together in his name , then Christ is in the midst of us . Has Momsage posted again ? I haven't checked . If not , there goes another member of this congregation .

please remember Jessica and Addie in your prayers today , please remember me

The Lord bless you & your family Manoj & to receive a KJV Bible in due course. And in your devotions & study of God's Words for you as a family, may He lead you into a deeper knowledge & love for our gracious LORD Who gave His all, even His only beloved Son Jesus Christ for our salvation. "For there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved". Trust Him for salvation - trust Him for your every need. Every blessing Manoj.

GiGi,

Did you mean someone else? I do not recall sharing my views on this discussion.

Thank you brother Giannis for sharing more information of the practises of the early Church - all this should be very helpful to those seeking better understanding of what took place in those meetings. And just to add, I've never found any of your posts to be aggressive or hurtful in any way, and have always valued very much your understanding of the Word especially when bringing us added knowledge from the Greek. And of course, calling upon history, if outside of biblical revelation, can always be a sore point; one must investigate further the facts presented rather than blind rejection, for whatever our reason. Truth is paramount: if we believe that the Bible is wholly true (even under testing), then anything that would complement biblical facts must also be given equal scrutiny. Blessings.

Momsage,

I do want you to stay here with us.

Just as you quoted nonbiblical people to support your view, Jesse also quoted non-biblical people in support of his view. So if it was wrong for Jesse to do so, then it would be equally wrong for you to have quoted whom you did.

I hope you will stay with us here. We sometimes "step on each others' toes" at times but we do love each other. So, I guess that it is important to understand that we are all here to help each other as well as express a point of view. In regards to the topic of keeping the Sabbath law, we can agree that we disagree and then move forward. There are so many topics we agree on and many worthy of discussions, as this topic was. Hope to see you on another thread soon.

OOps Angela,I misnamed your Father in my prayer as Isaac when I should have written Frank. Please accept my apology. I do know that God knows that I was truly praying for your father.

Dear Angela,

I am glad to pry for your father. How sad to see him go through this terrible disease.

Heavenly Father, we lay Mr. Isaac before You as he is in such need of your grace, mercy, and salvation as well as peace and comfort. Please, Father, take away these terrible dreams and evil ideas that are plaguing him often. Bring him home to Jesus now and to You when he passes from this life to the next. Father, You know all that Isaac needs now and we are trusting you to provide in this time that is hard for him and also for those who love and care for him. Help this whole family, Father, for You are good and merciful, long-suffering and wise. We bring Isaac before You in the name of Jesus. Amen.

Bullying continued: words that intimidate, tease, is ongoing and purposely targeted at a specific person; misuse of power in a relationship

Jema, since you did use these words to describe those of us who responded to Momsage, please show us. For me, to call us out using these words when we our words were not invective, aggressive, nor bullying is slander.

I am not posting this to bother you nor to put you down, but to reveal what the words you used truly mean. i want to own my own words if they are invective, aggressive, or bullying words. So I am open for your correction with specifics.

I love you dearly, Jema, and I do not want to hurt your feelings or do any damage to our friendship here, since I value you and our relationship. I always look forward to hearing from you.

Jema,

I wanted to get back to you once again in order to define words you used concerning the speech we were using in replying to Momsage. I looked up these definitions online from several sources in order to have a comprehensive understanding of the words you used. Please read these and then you can get back to me and show me what was said that would qualify under these definitions. Such accusations of doing another wrong on this site is serious and it is best if we clear things up now.

Invective: denunciatory or abusive language; vehement denunciation or an utterance of violent censure or reproach; a railing accusation; insulting, abusive criticism that is forceful, unkind and rude; abusive venomous language used to express censure or bitter, deep-seated ill; revilement or rude expression intended to offend or hurt; language that is shouted at people they hate or are angry with characterized by insult or abusive words.

Aggressive speech: speech that blatantly ignores the other person's response; speech that is manipulative or expresses violence; cruel and unkind words intended to cause pain or distress; hate speech; speech that does not consider the feelings of the other; hostile, defensive, demanding, behavior fueled by emotion; speech that readily jumps to conclusions; passionate speech that is combative, assailing, attacking, quarrelsome, war-like, belligerent, barbaric, competitive and lacking empathy; speech that is hostile, demeaning, angry, violent, reproachful, and not open for feedback; speech that is defiant, overtly critical not to be helpful but to belittle or threaten; using words to assault, dominate, ridicule, manipulate, degrade, others negatively as a means of controlling and maintaining power; speech that is mocking, humiliating. judgmental, argumentative

Bullying: intentional harm-doing, harassment directed at vulnerable targets and typically repeatedly so; intentionally trying to upset or exert power over another; coercive; deliberate,

Heavenly Father, I pray for Manoj, and his family. In whatever they need bless them with. In health, a closer walk with You, financial, strong family ties.Thank You Jesus Christ.

If I could I would mail you a KJV. I pray someone can send you one or that someone in New Zealand give you one. God bless you. Amen

Heavenly Father, I pray for Your healing touch on Isaac. You sent Your son Jesus Christ to destroy satan's work on Your children and that is sickness, illness, infirmities.in the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ, Isaac, be healed. All for Your honor and glory Father God. Amen

Thank you Gigi, and you are welcome.

God bless you.

The first recording of the teaching of the "rapture" was by Ephraem the Syrian in his most recently found and translation book entitled "Antichrist and the End of the World" in 373AD.

GOD bless everyone in CHRIST name.

January 06, 2024

Hi there like to request for a prayer for my family and can I request a copy of kjv holy Bible as well if you can send it to my address at 2/ 33 Luke street otahuhu Auckland. Please

Thanks alot

Hi Jema

Although I have been agressive to some people on this site in the past (and I have repented about it) I don't think I have been either agressive to Momsage or used words that insult, neither me nor any other person in that discussion about Sabbath. About singling her out how can that be? We don't know each other here on this site neither we have the same beliefs in every topic. When we list all we know about a topic is for making our beliefs solid, not to diminish the other person. Now to what was discussed. Momsage anchored herself to what she has read somewhere and I listed all historical events that I know to make her think that she may have the wrong impression about things she learned. Anyway, does all that mean that when I want to talk about something with others I should not say all that I know because that other person may feel inferior? Is this what you say? Is this right? Personally when someone talks about things that I don't know, such as history, I am very careful about what is said and then I look it up on the net. There is so much information nowadays on there from all sort of sources and it is good not to single out any church or denomination. But as far as the church history is concerned there is a wide acceptance all over the world about specific events in the history of the early church and when we hear something that sounds a bit strange in our ears then that makes us want to wake up that other person. There are some teachers or churches that in order to promote their ideas they twist some things on purpose, and I firmly believe that Momsage has fallen to that trap, because what she says that they say is not the accepted history of the church. We should be very careful in general when we hear something that is in total contrast to what all the others believe. Is is only us or some other specific teachers that God has revealed His truth? Why? Are we something special? Anyway, I think this is enough. Have a blessed day.GBU

Hi Richard,

Sorry, it should be the Feast of Unleavened Bread where the first and the seventh day are the holy convocation, not Passover, my bad.

God bless,

RLW

Hey Richard H Priday,

I agree with what you have said some things have been used for power and control, the day people go to a church is for their conscience and should not be a division. We see in Acts they were meeting every day of the week. But if I may point out a few things about the eighth day, not to debate but things you may want to study. The eighth day appears in various contexts in the Bible but to my understanding never as a day of the week, there are only seven days of the week.

God told Abraham that male children should be circumcised on the eighth day after their birth. We know now medically on the eighth day after birth, vitamin K in the body is at its highest level on the eighth day, and it is pivotal in blood clotting.

It comes up again with the Feast of Tabernacles on the first day and the eighth day was a holy convocation with no work outside of preparing food could be done, unlike the Passover where the first day and the seventh day were a holy convocation.

The eighth day was used in some sacrifices where it was done on the eighth day after the sin, some in the past have referred to the Lord's Day as the eighth day, referring to a new creation and some say it will be the final day of judgment, but I do not know much about that.

Pentecost, also known as the Feast of Weeks, you count seven Sabbaths after Passover, and it will be the first day after the seventh Sabbath. That makes it the 50th which is the meaning of pentekoste/Pentecost on the first day of the week after 49 days/seven Sabbaths.

They would count each day, this is the first day, this is the second day until the 50th day the second harvest would be presented to God and said it was the same day God gave the law to Moses on Mount Sinai. and the day of the giving of the Holy Spirit, the second harvest.

I hope you don't mind Richard and are not offended; I read and enjoy your posts and hope your health is good.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Christianlady7. I think I already answered this post but there's more I'd like to say to you. I don't know if you saw my last post that said I was leaving this forum because this is suppose to be a KJB only and they were using false verses from the epistle of Barnabas. I would like to stay, and do discussions with you and answer your questions. I certainly don't know everything but scripture from the KJB will be all I'll be using. I'll talked to you some more later if you want to. God Bless :)

Burning Bush

God is a consuming fire and it denotes an aspect of His holiness, which is different from what we have here. "And, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.".(Ex.3:2-4). *There was a voice from its midst calling his attention. Naturally the Spirit presents Moses as the double for his Son to which we have a book-end in the transfiguration of Jesus again with a mountain in the backdrop. (St. Matt. 17:1-9).

In both cases we are looking at the glory of God and the tree refers to the tree of righteousness in terms of the tree of life. In the other the glory of spiritual body and the holy mount is another reference to the Son. Thus we have the glory in terms of the Father Son relationship.

Second point to remember is the glory of the Word and Moses with Elijah are served as double for the Son. (See under L-logos). (Ex.3:1-4).

God set up an encounter with Moses and his scholarly turn of mind turned back as foreknown. "And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I".

Spirit of Christ represents the glory which did not consume the tree which foreshadows tree of Life or of righteousness. The voice of the Lord has sent forth the word (Is.55:11). It also augurs the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. (See under M-parallelism)

* Explanation

Compare "And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."(Re.6:6) The Spirit speaks on a non-verbal mode. While the four beast are continually praising God,holy,holy, holy' they keep their role as MC. They represent Glory of creation and Man as the steward. With each rider they alternate correspondingly. "And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see."(v.7)