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To add to what both of you have said, Mt 7:15-21 and Jn 15:1-8 have striking similarities. Both include a statement that fruitlessness ultimately leads to the fruitless being cut off/down and cast into the fire Mt 7:19, Jn 15:2,6. It is important to note that by the time Jesus spoke the words of Jn 15, Judas had already departed/fallen away to betray Jesus before Jesus spoke about Himself as the vine with fruitless branches being cut off and thrown away by the Father as the vinedresser. Judas was the only fruitless branch among the twelve previously, and he had now been cut off.

Jesus also said in Jn 15 that fruitful branches would be pruned/cleaned by the Father to bear more fruit Jn 15:2. He then called all of the remaining disciples pruned/cleaned by His word spoken to them Jn 15:3. The disciples that remained/abided had not fallen away when Jesus' words were difficult to understand and caused other disciples to stumble Jn 6:61-66, they clung to Jesus by faith Jn 6:67-69, but Judas was already different Jn 6:70-71. They didn't conspire to betray Him to enrich themselves when Jesus defended extravagant value being placed on Himself alone that they couldn't profit by: Mt 26:6-16, Mk 14:3-11, Jn 12:3-8. Judas clearly meant to profit through his deception about caring for the poor since he never cared for them. He only cared for himself as fruitless people do. Mt 7:18 divided the others from Judas.

The disciples that remained nonetheless did not fully know their own hearts and protested that they would never forsake Jesus, but would rather die with Him. Peter's threefold denials were crushing. But by this point they were clean/pruned and Jesus could entrust them to the Father's care to keep them according to His prayer as He had kept them by His words that cleaned them. Through Christ's intercession they were given grace to repent when they really finally understood what Jesus had been talking about when He said He would rise from the dead. Grace!

Please pray for Daniel's salvation. Jesus Please save him and deliver him from addictions and death. Protect him and cover him with Your blood Jesus. Please pray that he will serve the Lord!

Yes he is

James is my favorite book in the bible!!

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Very clearly explained , thank you for that .

It's something that requires a serious lifelong commitment and even if we read the Bible every day for many years we won't ever know everything about it but I think that's a good thing . It's the fact that there is always something new to learn that helps to keep me interested and focussed and wanting to read it every day .

Job was already right with God before the events that began in chapter one began to unfold. Job knew God but not like he would know him in the end. Job learned things about the Lord through his trials that made the Lord both precious and glorious in the end, a perception that he alludes to when he said,

5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.

For years I could not fully comprehend the meaning of James 5:11.

James 5:11

Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

I struggled to understand how the tragic suffering Job went through revealed to him a special understanding and appreciation of God's pity and tender mercy. But after I went through years of suffering myself I also now know in a way I never knew before how tender and loving God is and was with me through all the trials I experienced.

Praise God for His immeasurable love and mercy.

"The Lord said Today is the day of Salvation reach out to any family members that are not saved and preach the gospel" -church international

What I meant was if Romans means that we are all kept from the wrath of the entire Tribulation; then all believers are raptured beforehand. If this is true; we also need to warn against having works burn up and "making it as though through the fire" and having no reward. That could mean also literally being taken through the Tribulation fire because we were "foolish virgins"; but again I can see arguments both ways on that. In any event; predestination makes up the whole framework in Revelation as to ALL who worship the Beast taking the Mark. There is also the concept of some escaping judgment and others being saved THROUGH it; at least from failing in their faith. Backing up my theory here; we see those like Lot barely escaping; and the 3 wise men with Daniel where people went through the fire and weren't hurt; and those such as Daniel Himself; and Abraham from afar witnessing the events; along with Elijah who could be an analogy to those raptured out of trouble (and Elisha who didn't want to think about these things and those with him that insisted on looking for Elijah's body afterwards being like those foolish virgins left behind). Just a thought...

Elihu was like John the Baptist, preparing the way of the Lord who came in the final chapters of the book. God did not rebuke Elihu and once Elihu had finished preparing the way for the Lord he disappeared from the record. John the Baptist said, "He must increase and I must decrease." Once the Lord had entered John the Baptist and Elihu were no longer needed.

In the year Uzziah died Isaiah saw the Lord in a light he had never seen Him before, seeing himself in a new brighter light, causing him to repent in a way he have never before done. Christians should desire to see Jesus in a brighter light than before also, giving them greater appreciation for the Lord than they had before.

I haven't looked at these passages in some time; although it was my favorite book as a new believer. You are probably right; although chapter 7 shows the INITIAL sealing of these 144,000 probably AFTER the martyred souls of the fifth seal are seen UNDER the altar. I had thought originally that the multitude was those who were witnessed to; but it seems another option makes more sense. It isn't popular; but I believe that most of the initial martyrs are believers who are left behind. This takes into account the warnings in Luke and Revelation 3 about being worthy to escape what is coming to pass on the whole earth. Not every believer has their garments pure and unspotted as Ephesians 3 seems to indicate; and thus it would seem that those who HAVE garments are believers that need it purified by being put "through the fire" as it were. I understand the emphasis on us being saved from wrath; but we also have to take into account that people are saved during the Tribulation who are saved from the DIRECT wrath in the bowls. Also the seals are opened by Christ Himself; and Antichrist Himself is a "strong delusion" but meant to deceive those who don't LOVE the truth. (sorry for all the shouting). One thing for sure-not everyone who thinks that they are "rapture ready" or even truly saved at present will make the rapture; but a subset of those may be later. There is the obvious danger of using that theory to put off now walking in Christ.

Anyway; Rev. 14 shows that at some point (probably close or synonomous with the translation of the 2 witnesses) the 144,000 appear at the throne (not under it as I thought at first) hence they are in a sense raptured. They are; after all part of the "firstfruits". As to the multitude; the time frame is a bit hard to get-it may be the end of the Church age to allow the Jews to witness during the time of Jacob's trouble; or signify an event AFTER the 144,000 preach. Nice just to talk about this; as most have fallen asleep.

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Today's scriptures were about acting like someone else when your not just be your self

I don't believe the NT gives instructions as to how to properly observe the OT Sabbath if that is important.

I do not believe baptism is a necessary requirement for salvation.

Can you post NT scriptures detailing which of the more than 6,000 OT commands God wants us to focus on?

How many times in a day can a Christian be forgiven for committing the same sin, three? Or three thousand?

Matt. 18

21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?

22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.

please lord pray i have a clean ct scan of my body bone and tissue Tuesday march 15 no cancer , i want to watch my new grandson grow . i am so frighten give me the peace to get through this no cancer or illness please lord please hear my prayer also give the Bryan the tech who is giving me the test hands of grace no cancer

The woman with the issue of blood is a great sermon

I will pray for u also , even though I'm sure u don't need my prayers , I'm so sorry that so many people seem to misunderstand your posts , they r quite simple to me , they r loosing out , everything will b much clearer to us all when we r in His Kingdom . Keep your patience Alex , it's defo one of your great strengths , I only have so much I'm afraid .

As I read your request, Scott, something the Lord taught me YEARS ago came to my mind. I struggled at the time with the sin of 'self-defense'; I was often quick with a snide remark at someone who treated me as your wife does you, or, I was equally quick with 'the look' that revealed my attitude! One day, the Lord spoke straightly and strictly in my heart, "You can either keep defending yourself, or, you can let me be your defense." I was smitten by conviction! I prayed that He would help me to release myself entirely to His care, and not be my own defender and justifier.

Shortly after this 'lesson' - I encountered someone who was verbally mean and rude to me; to be honest, my flesh WANTED to react; but instead, I turned away and prayed, and left that person with NO reply. Wouldn't you know? After a while, THAT person came to me and apologized!

Though each person I've turned from, and with whom I have chosen to not react to has not come to apologize, I have kept myself in God's peace; and have left them confounded. Jesus said, "LET NOT your heart be troubled..." We can rule our spirits, by God's grace and Spirit, and not LET ourselves be dragged down to our adversary's level!

I trust God will help you Scott - for I can see by your prayer request, you WANT to do the right thing! And surely, our God is on the side of rightness! :) And after all -- it is a GREAT HONOR that God puts upon us, when He helps us to be like Jesus, Who was as silent before his adversaries!!! Blessings in Jesus!

Gbu Grae...God sees everything...There is always a warfare between that which is born of the spirit and that which is born of the FLESH...Remember the dragon wanted to kill the woman that had given birth to the manchild that is gonna rule All nations...The Woman is humanity as the field is the world where the good seed will be sown...In mankinds hearts...Thus multiplication in the Spritual realm...That was the great Promise that Christ will be multiplied as the stars of heaven...But satan the red dragon hated the woman that had given birth to the manchild. Which is a perfect picture of multiplication in the spiritual realm...Her seed etc....impling her Children via the seed of Christ...Unless ya receive the Kingdom as a lil Child ..Which is the H.G that Child of Promise...God Almighty's great Promise of multiplication of Christ SEED...But we see certain folks that wanna kill this doctrine of multiplication...Just as certain folks wants Kill any doctrine of multiplication of God Almighty...Even tho it was God Almighty that swore by his very self that Christ was gonna be mulltiplied as the stars of heaven...The dragon hated the woman that given birth to the manchild which is the H.G. that Child of PROMISE.

......Thats y the sower of that good seed will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity..That we might birth a baby Christ...Thats y he always refers to himself as the Son of Man...Mankinds fruit unto God...The Woman was caught up to God and to his throne...but the Dragon was cast out to the earth...But Rev. 12 : 10 The Angel says now is come salvation and the Kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ...Her baby ...Which are the babes and sucklings his Children ..Spirits...The H.G. the Children of PROMISE....There is gonna be war in heaven but the WOMAN WITH CHILD WINS...GBU GRAE...I 'm praying for you in Jesus name.

Hi Gigi.

Thanks for replying! sorry for my delay in responding, I also have been mostly only checking in from time to time and picked up on some unfinished projects at the house.

Concerning the notion that we all will become Gods and birth the Holyspirit is a dangerous heresy in my opinion.

I agree with you 100 percent on everything you said!

That doctrine is a dangerous doctrine to hold.

And the hermeneutics he uses is also dangerous, He spiritualize everything to bend scripture to his views.

What's so dangerous is some things are allegory and types, but when you spiritualize EVERYTHING those treasures get lost and so do the truth, you're left without out Gods devine word and left with speculation and perspectives!

I debated with him about a year and a half ago. This is what I've learned.

His base doctrine derives an flawed interpretation of Exodus 3:13-15.

"Here's his interpretation;

He says this text says God's "name" is Abraham, Issac, and Jacob.

He disregard the I AM THAT I AM in vs 14.

He says this is a picture of the Trinity. ( Israel ) and he says the seed shall come though them. Christ.

But he says the church is spiritual Israel and that seed "Christ" is planted in us and we birth the Holyspirit.

This is another example of someone shaping their theology around a viewpoint and bending scripture to support it.

A year and a half ago he was presenting this but cautiously.

After the debate focusing on Exodus 3:14. he left the site for about 4 months and just returned about 2 weeks ahead of you. He would post sparingly but we paid him not much attention and the newbies ignored his strange doctrine.

Now he's the boldest he has ever been!!

I was saddened when he left the first time and asked about him.

When he came back I was happy to hear from him but later understood he held that same doctrine.

I decided not to give him Godspeed.

God bless you sister Gigi.

A person gets saved by Believing in Jesus Christ, being baptized and repenting from sin. You seem to be forgetting the last part - Repenting from Sin!

Jesus tells the adulteress to "sin no more" and the cripple that He healed " to sin no more or something worse will happen to you."

John 8:11

"She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."

John 5:14

"Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee."

A Christian is a Christ Follower, we are to listen to Jesus and follow Him- just as He also followed His Father. God's Commandments are good, and they guide good Christians as we follow Christ, and they help us to refrain from sin.

If and when we sin, we can pray and ask God for forgiveness in the name of His Son Jesus Christ. Christ died for our sins, he DID NOT die so that we can keep sinning! Big Difference!

Read and Believe!

Hi Steise.

My understanding concerning wisdom as a Feminine noun is meant for one to hold wisdom as something very special and to be sought after.

Proverbs 1:3-7.

Proverbs 4:5-13.

God bless.

I am engaged to a wonderful lady that I'm planning to marry for sure,we been living together now a little over a year and now she wants to no longer engage in sexual activities with each other cuz she feels it's wrong in the eyes of god.my question is how should I respond to this and what should I do to make right of this situation??

Marke,

This simple scripture spoken by Jesus is so POWERFUL and easily separates his sheep - from the rest of the worldly flocks.

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

We have the choice, we either Love Him - or we don't!

Read and Believe!

Christ's union with believers is described as similar to the union between a husband and wife. "They two become one flesh." Paul said that in his flesh dwelleth no good thing. Apart from Christ dwelling in them, Christians cannot be good or do good because there is only one good who is God.

Sinners can become possessed by the devil but if they do not become possessed by the Holy Spirit they shall never enter heaven.

Luke 11:24-26

King James Version

24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.

25 And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.

26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.