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We only keep the law in our hearts and minds....As the righteousness of the law is to love our neighbors as ourselves and God
with all our hearts....On these 2 laws hangs all the laws and the Prophets...But we cannot really do this unless we are bornagain
There has to be a heavenly birth via heavenly seed which is that New Covenant...Thats the only thing that pleases God is a new
creature a new innerman...Not the letter of the law but the righteousness of the law...Do we make void the law by Faith
Godforbid We establish the law...Simply b/c God is gonna be married to us...And its the H.G. that is gonna bemaried to
us. Thus we cd not sin if we wanted to after the marriage....Its just like John said he that is born of God cannot sin...Its the H.G.
That is born of God within us...Just like Jeremiah said he was gonna put his Words in our hearts and minds making it
impossible to sin....Thus the law is fulfilled
to sin...He that is born of God cannot sin thus the law is fulfilled if we cannot sin....Thats what sin is The transgression of the law
Jesus Christ grafted the wild olive tree (Gentiles)- into the tame olive tree (Jews) and now we are all children of God. We have the same promise of salvation, the same commands from God, and the same accountability. No difference. Amen.
God Bless.
I'm replying to you here in a new thread as the other thread was getting quite long.
We are in agreement that it is the Holy Spirit in us that makes it possible for us to live according to God's Commandments. This wonderful Spirit makes the impossible - possible! Amen.
You continue to state that what was spoken to the Israelites are not applicable to us/Gentiles. The scriptures disagree. Whatever Jesus/God spoke to the Israelites are also spoken to us Gentiles, and we are just as accountable to adhere to these commands today. Why? Because those of us in Christ are now Israelites and we were once Gentiles but the grafting process through Jesus Christ has changed us so that we have become Jews inwardly. Paul tells us below we are now of Abrahams seed.
Galatians 3:29
"And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."
Paul reaffirms that the Gentiles are now Jews inwardly.
Romans 2:29
"But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."
Per the bible scripture the children of Israel (which Gentiles are after adoption) shall keep God's Commandments including observing the Sabbath throughout their generation for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever.
Yes, we who are in Christ, are now Jews inwardly, and will want to keep all of God's Commandments, and again, we do so via God's Holy Spirit, not of our own accord. Amen.
God Bless You!
The Holy Bible is so timeless that all countries and ppl can recognize themselfs.
I belive we talk in the contigent of Israel. Look all eye is look to Israel! Its there its about. If we can think of a city i see Jerusalem.
Or it can be Beijing or Moskow and as many ppl in Amerika think its NY. Stockholm or Oslo, all are like.
But all this cityes are not strange to each other. All are simular today.
If ill think of the end times, ill think we need to gather our trooos :p stay together, live together and grow vegetables. We have to go back til the old times.
Becouse we vill not be able too buy foods like before. Sure we lives in the end time. But why are u from America? U can do your things there. Be there help ppl to understand whats coming up. I am here in Norway and here ppl runs from place to place all day long.
It is not different. Evan if it is on the other side of the earth.
Our blessings is often where we are. God bless u and yours. In proverbs we have some good advise 19:17. In Jesus Holy Name be comforted with the Holy Spirit. Love u in Christ forever.
God is no respector of persons . ...There is not 1 gospel for the Jews and 1 for the Gentiles....As the scriptures says
by 1 Spirit are we all baptised into the body of Christ, Weather we be Jew or Gentile, Bond or Free etc...All of our
Lords disciples were Jews and they all had to be bornagain of that same incorruptible seed just like the Gentiles....
On the day of Pentecost Jew and gentiles a like received the same Spirit....And remember Acts 10 The spirit was poured out
on both Jew and Gentile a like...There was no distinction....And he took of the twain and made 1 new man...He took of the twain
Jew and Gentile and made 1 Newman....The H.G. that new Creature...Our new Innerman....That Child of Promise.
Thus Christ wd have to come and die and be multiplied ...Unless a seed falls into the ground and dies it will abide alone but if it dies it will bring forth much fruit...Multiplication...Thus b/c of his death he will be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Everbody will get a seed a Word everybody will get a measure of faith...The seed of the sower etc.....Being bornagain of an incorruptible SEED etc....His death implies multiplication ..Smite the sheppard then the sheep will be scattered...Then i will turn my hand to the LITTLE ONES...His offspring the babes and sucklings which are spirits that can praise God Perfectly the H.G plural that is gonna cover this earth....Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains when he spoke of that New Covenant
What the LAW cd not do in that it was weak thru the flesh God had to send his son to come and die and be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven....That everybody might get a seed the words of that new covenant the contents of the book in the Fathers right hand that is still sealed...That God might be praised Perfectly in his kingdom by these babes and sucklings...Outta of the mouths of babes and sucklings thou has perfected...The law cd not do this perfect praise...I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven thus the Children an Israel of God. They are gonna be born in us Sinners...Whosoever receives one such child IN MY NAME receives me....In his name implies he IS THEIR FATHER...Thats y Isaiah refers to JESUS AS EVERLASTING FATHER...Jesus said that God was gonna send the H.G. IN MY NAME...
Blessed be everyone in His Name who is above all names in the World, the Son of God, Jesus Christ. Who is the King of kings and Lord of lords. He who overcame death.
Matthew chapter 3
This hidden wisdom or "third eye" is the gateway to demonic possession rather than the Spirit as the guide in all wisdom. Christ had to take the wrath of God for our sin; whose nature from there on was passed on through the generations of man.
John on Patmos was not confused but he describes Revelation as follows: Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
And beloved Marie there will not be a second Exodus. as u sayed here. Because God has not forgotten those whom He gave the law and the commandments. Becouse He understand that they couldent follow what who was written, He have being patient too all ppl on the planet. To them he has specialized as Paul writes about in Romans:11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Please read the rest of the Chapter, and pray that we all will understand everything in the end.
God Bless us all in Jesus Holy Name Amen.
Cecil. The Scriptures have been given: Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39; Zechariah chapter 12; Joel chapter 3. If what you understand in just these few portions don't speak of God protecting Israel & that Israel will one day learn & come to God in the midst of their sufferings, then I'm unsure what might convince you. I'm uninterested in which nations come against Israel in that day, unless they're specifically mentioned in the Word. To do otherwise, is mere speculation; a wild shot might indeed hit the target & then again, it might also miss it completely. I don't make guesses when reading the Word - some enjoy it & even teach it - I would walk out in that type of ministry for lack of clear Truth."
Therefore, we have nothing to brag about. Everything comes from God the Father Himself. And this applies to all people.
A little personal now. I read the Bible for 20 years (and didnt understand what i read!)before i really bowed the knee and wanted to repent from evil deeds to the torment of Almighty God. Over the years, he has demanded much more than i could have imagined. But it is only a matter of choice and even compromise. It is always the Lord who is right but fortunately He is patient with us all and wants everyone to come to the knowledge of truth, and be saved.
It seems that you are full of doubt. Thomas Jesus' disciple. He doubted so much that he was not even completely convinced even though he was allowed to touch the Lord's Hands and Feet. Faith is something wonderful. And it is not given from any man but from God Himself.
The only thing i can do is say to you, dear look and feel your conscience. There you can find justice. And be patient att all time do good things and love all ppl u have around u. And believe in God that He says in His Word is true. And believe that Jesus is the Son of God. Do this and if we not meet at this side of death. So know that we will meet in the coming! God bless you with revelations and joy and peace as long as you live on this earth. In Jesus Christ holy Name. Love u in Christ.
Blessed to be dear friend of Matthew chapter 3
How can man not believe?
If what we see are what He is, imagine what we do not know! The fool has said in His heart their is no God!
An evil generation seeks signs! and no sign shall be given.
The signs are already here, it is the question ,the doubt, that is the evil. Are you resting in the promises of the Father!
The creation, our mortality will be swallowed up by what you see!
Where will you be?
Will you be standing before the Son, clothed in His robe, or cast away never to be part of eternal life?
Even so while we are in this flesh, He reveals Himself unto those who love Him!
Unfathomable, Repent and be Baptized
Please Lord God You know the heart of Jonathan and the plans You have for him. Please bless him with spiritual clarity and discernment in his desire for marriage and whomever you have chosen for him I ask in Jesus Christ name.
And what of those who believe that we are required to keep the Ten Commandments (the Old Law), but if we slip up & sin, then there is grace through Christ for God to forgive? Could we dare to fuse the Old with the New? Is it possible that God requires us to be under the Law & yet find forgiveness through His Son's Blood? Christ's Sacrifice was for the purpose of doing away with the Law of death completely (rendering it useless) & usher in the new Law in His Blood that completely opposed the Old. Now we receive much grace to know & obey the Lord without calling upon the Decalogue as our yardstick of obedience. His Laws are written upon our hearts & not as you suggested elsewhere, that such people say they are free to disobey God or live how they like. That's impossible if we have the Spirit & remain sensitive to Him.
The implications of the Old Law to Israel are now only of historical value - the New Law in Christ is now freedom to live in & be led by His Spirit & never be in condemnation. Our teaching should only be about living in the Spirit of Christ - without any appeal or view of the Old Law to our lives.
Now what about the believer in Christ, whether Jew or Gentile, who makes claim to the Ten Commandments, that we're required to obey them. I perceive that those who say this speak simply about God's Commands given that still have eternal moral & spiritual value to all people for all time. And that is true, for Romans 7:12 says, "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." There's nothing wrong with the Law - what brings us into error, is our appeal to it & requiring others to be brought under it.
Paul went on in that passage to describe how the Law only showed him the wretched state of his soul - if he was left in that state, he would be doomed. But he saw 'another law (now working) in his members'. The Law that revealed to him his weakness to keep it & being a total failure, was overtaken by another Law of God now working in his mind. He goes on in Romans 8:1,2 to state that now there is no condemnation by God to those who don't "walk after the flesh" (i.e. sin in his members revealed by the Law), but "walk after the Spirit". For it is "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death"; a new Law that not only replaced the Old that brought death, but also gave power & liberty by the Spirit to fully know & obey God's Holy requirements. And when we fail, then there lies mercy to forgive & restore. Under the old Law, there was no mercy ( Hebrews 10:28).
Who then requires me to obey the letter of the Law for a right standing before God? God certainly doesn't, for I am set free to obey God as His Spirit directs me. Is it only the Ten Commandments or the '613 other commandments' that must apply to me, or maybe the millions of laws that bring out the spirit of the letter, that we might "serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter" ( Romans 7:6)?
Much could be written SolaScrip, on what you've stated & also written elsewhere by others. Maybe I'll state some fundamental Truths that have to be apprehended first. If we find disagreement in these, then any further discussion will be fruitless.
The Ten Commandments & all of the commandments given by God were only given to Israel & no one else. No Gentile (person or nation) ever received any of them, nor has any Gentile ever required to come under them pre or post Cross. If you are of Jewish heritage, as I don't know who you are, then we could discuss this at another level.
Jews who came under the Law, since Moses, (& also to those Gentiles who desire(d) to be placed under the Law), were required to obey every facet of the Law. If they broke even one Law, a severe punishment was meted out. Brother S.Spencer in this thread gave a very apt example in Numbers 15:32-36 of a man who gave no heed to the sanctity of the Sabbath & had to suffer death as a result - that was the Law: its nature, its demands, its punishment.
The Jew had no choice as to which Laws (the Decalogue, civil, ceremonial, etc.) were more important to obey. They all stood equal & by it he was judged. Some Jews were very meticulous, as seen in Luke 18:18-25 (a genuine Law-keeper but failed under scrutiny: he broke the very first Commandment, maybe to his surprise). Why did Jesus even direct him to the Ten Commandments? That's all the Jews had & by it they would be judged unless they looked beyond the Law - by faith - to the One Who would put an end to the Law that only showed them their failure & brought death. What was the point of the Law: Galatians 3:19, the Law given "TILL the Seed should come". Could the Jew ever become righteous by the Law? ( Galatians 3:21-26).
Be blessed in His Holy Name Jesus Christ. In words from Matthew chapter 3
40 years ago i had a neighbor who kept saying that the his angel had pushed on him again today. I dont belived this was true soo i laughed at him.
Today I no longer laugh. For today i KNOW THAT THE ANGELS EXIST.
I have experienced it so many times.
They exist and i can see them in the Spirit sometimes. So before you say anything more, you can pray in spirit and truth, get closer to the kingdom of God, even if you are on earth.
Sometimes it takes a long time to get into this state. It's not done in 2 minutes if u think that. Its the same with a pray. Sometimes u know u have a answer on a thing. And other times u know that "this one is a hard one". Do u give up then? No,we continue with the prayer until we feel peace over it right? This is about being endurance.
And do you know, dear friend, how many endurance and wise people there are? Not me either but i know they are many. Who sincerely thank the lives they have and pray incessantly for all people.
Start there you who want to see Angels. Pray in Spirit and truth in the shadow of Jesus Christ. He who Is King over everything and everyone. Remember Jesus said: John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.