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How does Noah's ark relate with Jesus' Salvation?

Patsy,

If I may ask a few questions. You speak of the events that took place in Acts Chapter 2 which I would be the first to say that what took place there was something very powerful and awesome. I can only imagine what those people there were thinking when they heard those who were there speaking in tongues (their own native languages).

How would you compare that with what is taking place in our churches today as far as "tongues" are concerned? You mention "cloven tongues of fire was manifested." Can you tell me what that means? You mention an initial sign of a new birth and that once we are born-again, we are enabled to pray in the Spirit in this heavenly language that Satan cannot understand. What does it mean to pray in a heavenly language? What is a heavenly language?

You mention a "gift of tongues," but no place in scripture does it say this is given to any believer. A gift is something that is given to someone, but where in scripture does it say the gift of tongues is given to anyone? There is only one place I know of in the original text that the word gift is used as in reference to a gift that is given, and it is the gift of the Holy Spirit.

You mention that we can receive the gift of tongues when we have been born again of the water and the Spirit, which is for the edifying of the body of Christ. Can you explain how speaking in tongues edifies the body of Christ? If the body of Christ is gathered together in fellowship, and everyone knows English, why would God use a language that no one understands to get His message across to them?

Lastly, what is this "Initial tongue when we receive the Holy Ghost as a sign of our new birth?" What would you say to those who claim to be born of God's Spirit but have never received an initial tongue as evidence or a "sign" that they have been born of God's Spirit?

I'm sorry if I'm asking too many questions. It is not my intent to offend you or anyone else who speaks in tongues. Thank you so much for your time!

Revelation 4:11,

Thank you. I will read it. The example I cited certainly doesn't matter. It was simply the item I noticed that alerted me to possible KJV revisions, and I'd like to learn more about that. I would like to see further examples of how the text has evolved. Again, thank you for your help.

Angels often have messages from God to humans . Please read Genesis Ch 21 V 1-21 , Judges Ch 6 V 11-26 , Judges Ch 13 V 1-23 , all of Zechariah and Luke Ch 1 V 1-38 . U will notice that when an Angel is given a message from God to deliver to a human , the Angel does it himself . Angels do not deligate , to a human , what God has told them to do . God has a message for u , it's a message of peace , love , mercy and reconciliation and u will find it in the Bible. So I would say that these so called clairvoyants r nothing more than tricksters who certainly want some thing from u . I would b avoiding them and reading my Bible .

9-11 has nothing to do with the bible, the Samaritan, or the philistines. Our policies in the world and the destruction and its refugees, are the consequences of escalation and in most cases false pretenses.

It is, as if our Father of the nation has left, unable to attend to the upbringing of a Nation of its own!

The law is no longer a useful tool. Just ask the Mothers who bury their children before they arrive home from school! No longer these lawyers deciding on a Childs future, but how much should the Childs Mother get to bury Him or Her!

The destruction you seemed to be so worried about is everywhere , not only in the homeland. Sin is the problem! Looking for and asking for forgiveness though right in front us, we repel!

Question for my beloved brothers and sisters: In the Old Testament, what is the first reference which points to the existence of a third person in the deity (Creator...Spirit.....???).

Thank you all and God Bless You!

Cal

Perhaps these relate : Joel 2:23, but read in context: Joel 2, Amos 4:7, context again: Amos 4,

Hosea 6:3, Psalms 72:6, Proverbs 16:15, Hosea 10:12,

Maybe : * Deuteronomy 32:2,

Hopefully this is helpful

I think all 5 comments have value and encouragement for Beverly in her time of grieving.

I personally believe and totally agree with Donna's comments [although they may seem a bit harsh or too direct or even uncaring ?!?] but true and tender words of relief and agape/love towards Beverly, in particular, the second paragraph: [Beverly, please BEWARE!!!]

"I do believe I know where your sister wants you to be when you pass away though."

To that I would simply add the same message of encouragement as Donna's:

"Please Ask Jesus into your heart if you haven't already. Turn from your sins and find a church family to study the Bible with and get water baptized.

The Lord will answer all your questions in due time. I'm so sorry for your loss. Keep coming here."

And for Donna: you are a very mature Christian yourself, unafraid to say it exactly as it is, no fuss, no sugar coating it: Amen to you!!!

With a heavy heart I admit, I had close 'friends', that unfortunately passed away, and they were so hardened in their hearts that they denied Christ even on their death bed ........ where are they now? Hmm, I don't think so ........ All of the Holy Scripture leads us to the right answer, not only John 3:16. GOD forgive and bless us all.

The Law is a schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ. Sin in its true essence is constantly at war against our spirit. If not for the law to remind us ,confronting us , we would not come over and over in repentance. Thus then is the schoolmaster!

A child must fall down several times while learning how to walk. These are the lessons we go through as born again in this new nature, learning to come unto that place of reconciliation, through the blood of His dear Son! Reconciliation, through the forgiveness of sin, a marriage, as in any relationship, there must be forgiveness.

As sin is our nature, Christ forgiveness is ours forever in its true essence. As long as we breath, and are alive, His promises are never ending. We cannot escape from sin. Believing that if not for our failures, could we recognize our condition? This is why we are reminded to pray, too pray without ceasing!

Luke Ch 21 V 19 . Hold on Betty . God is good and He will not abandon you .

Very true Donna and thankyou for that reminder . David was a man who loved God very much . He also commited quite a few sins and although he was totally forgiven by God , David's sinful behaviour had huge ramifications in his own life and in the lives of many of his loved ones .

I ask you to pray & I will also pray for you, for protection & clarity & discernment in these matters.

I had a friend years ago that had said 'her mother would say something to people she didn't like about fire to cause them fear' a while after that me & that dearly loved friend had a deep discussion about a medical targeted abortion. I pleaded with her not to be afraid but trust GOD, I had told her how so many things that were wonderful about her that would be in that child. She had already had the abortion. Sometime around that she would say "she had dreams about me & house fires, dangerous & was concerned for my family " after saying that to me multiple times, then no longer speaking to me. It literally bothered me over the years, causing unwelcome concerns. Then I would remember what she previously disclosed & GOD's power & protection. Matthew 5:44,

Peoples words spoken over someone can be curses or blessings but GOD says Edify one another & not to curse. Here are some scriptures: 1 Thessalonians 5:8-11, Romans 14:19, warning, Psalms 62:4, Psalms 109:28,

Remember the promises spoken over us by GOD. : Genesis 12:3, Numbers 22:12, Deuteronomy 11, Nehemiah 13:12, Proverbs 3:33,

Proverbs 26:2,

Hopefully this helps remember: John 16:13,

Ok , thanks , I get it now . As we know from Acts Ch 10 especially V 15 and 34+35 it's not for us to call anyone common or "unclean" if you like , but I get what you mean . Thanks again .

Type quiver in the search box, Study to show thyslef appoved 127:5

But there is a second death the 1st death isn't death it's sleep and it says it's sleep over and over again Adan and Eve died but after they were still living and had children. So there is a physical death and a spiritual death. Did Jesus die was it physical or spiritual. here is what i tell people for Rev they know all about it but missed the most important part, Rev1:2Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

3Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. What is it we are to keep? 1 Corinthians 13:12

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."

King James Version (KJV)

Did you ever consider God wasn't alone and Lucifer rebelled before the earth was created, for example Genesis 2:4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

It says generations, plural read Genesis 1 & 2 notice God rested the 7th day but then look he still works after and makes and forms what he had created for example man male and female in verse 1 but in verse two he forms man from the dust and makes women from man's rib Adam and Eve. Jesus existed before he was born of a virgin. here is how i explain such things, 1 Corinthians 13:12

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." Paul said some word where not lawful for him to speak that Jesus had spoken to him and John was told to seal up the book and was told to eat it. Who can understand the mind of God...............who can know his ways or who can be his counselor. Study to show theyself approved a workman the needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. it also says to avoid unlearned questions for they bring more strife

King James Version (KJV)

I've recently noticed on this site you can download KJV free. It was on the right hand side of page, near bottom as I was reading the different books of the Bible on this site.

Hopefully that's helpful

Wow! The Book of Mark really compacts many important moments into 1 chapter & it's 1st Chapter.

Mark 1:1-5 : Exodus 15:2, Isaiah 40:3, Malachi 3:1, Matthew 3:3, Matthew 11:10, Luke 1:76, Luke 3:4, Luke 7:27,

Vrs 6.- compare: Jeremiah 13:1-11, 2Kings 1:8,

Mark 1:13, : Psalms 106:14, Matthew 4:1, Luke 4:2,

Mark 1:14, : Luke 3,

Mark 1:44, : Leviticus 10:10, Leviticus 13,

Isaiah 11:1-4,

Heaven won't be about us matter of fact john shall a new heaven and earth because the old had passed away and the temple come down from heaven Rev. it says they will neither be male or female, a 71 years old person can be a babe in Christ say he was saved at 70 and died at 71 he's a year Old in Christ, Paul said it does not yet appear what we shall be so I don't think we know. An elder could be 30 if he was saved at 16 and an older person not be if they were just saved. plus we only know in part 1 Corinthians 13:12

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." And some words were unlawful for Paul to speak, 2 Corinthians 12:4

"How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

King James Version (KJV)

NO, God has grace on us we are to have grace on them, we are told to live peacefully as much as is possible. Psalms 14:1

"(To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."

King James Version (KJV) Vengeance is my saith the Lord I will repay the deeds of the unrighteous and the righteous shall inherit their wealth. love thy enemy. now to except it no we are not to. They are lost souls like any other is

Fuuny because it disgusts me and guess what God did, put me ministering to homosexuals. I have to say so many are trouble souls in despair it's truly said, pray for them. confusion is of the devil that evil snake.

One thing our vote can't do is change God's plan and God uses evil for his good pleasure and he created evil. you can't make straight what God made crooked. And we are not of this world, be ye separate and come out from among them and touch not the unclean thing, So, we are the Church not the world so fixed the church, Jesus never spoke against Rome or tried to fix Israel did he, no he had a purpose Jesus even said You will always have the poor among you He Knew people will always do the wrong things. This earth does not survive God's wrath or do the people, we all as believers have one purpose to go unto all the world and not to tell them to vote but to believe. Sure you should vote but to turn politics into another gospel and spend more time on that then on God I think not. remember it says if the day were not cut short even God's elect would be deceived, you haven't even begun to know what evil really is yet. I get it but my MAGA is, Make America Godly Again. Serve the lord your God my friend

Psalms 14:1

"(To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good." King James Version (KJV). by this verse I'd say no, but we reap what we sow, and it rains on the evil and the good, so wealth or prosperity doesn't equal godliness or protection

So you have to be saved to be written in the book of life so Rev22:18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

There is a verse that says once enlighten and you fall away you can't be renewed again but many verses that imply you must teary until the end or hold fast to the end but being saved is from the wrath of God not eternal damnation Matt 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Where these saved? you every prophesied or cast out devils they did wouldn't have to be saved to do these? The didn't make it, Once saved always saved is true because you will never have to suffer God's wrath to repent and be saved you already did but Paul said for all of us to work out our own salvation, The verse that's says no one can pluck you out of God's hand, but God can cast you out and you can fall out

John 15:19, John 15:15-27, Romans 12:21, 1John 4:4,

John 16:33,

I am building on his words seeking GOD for new house ing

Lower rent we pay to much here to high me and wife

YES God blessed me with healing hands and great voice

His . I go on u tube alot pray for others lots of healings

I know I have gifts of healings it began in long bch

He called me onto his ministry lots of healings also

I am believing trust ing GOD he will plant me and use me

To bring more peoples To him. I worship GOD

THANK you

Thou shall not commit Adultery it's pretty plain on NO! you can't

GOD is amazing! Isn't it wonderful how the HOLY Spirit will speak to each of us & several times to several people about the same thing. Hours before you posted. I was praying for people. In my spirit I was reminded about: Matthew 25:31-46, though I had forgiven people many wrongs & praying for "church leadership" of a place I used to attend & volunteer much with. GOD reminded me they still have consequences & so do we. It changed my prayer.

Not long ago I went through several years of difficult trials. I learned many valuable conclusions. How many people can & are affected by 1 persons sin. How society is affected by 1 sin & multiple sins also sometimes resulting from another person's sin. For Example you have a parent abuse then abandon their family. Society then either surrounds them with love, protection, support, or rejects, blames, shames. Then you have employers not pay individuals for work completed, or only pay a portion. James 5:4, Leviticus 19:13, Making it impossible for the worker to pay their debts. Families that after death of parent leave responsibility to poorest, weakest sibling, widow, widower. People ignoring their children, that vandalize other's property. Political corrupt choices, appointing unrighteous Judges, or police, making Courts biased & unjust etc. All of these sometimes 'simple' choices have tremendous affects on society.

Thanks for sharing, I hope my comment is welcomed

I found this verse, Ephesians 2:15

"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" King James Version (KJV)

But this is the commandments in the ordinances, like what to eat or not eat and so on , not the commandments but everything Jesus and his Apostles said to do is a commandment. Jesus said he didn't come to do away with the law but to fulfill the law. But you know what you can follow the law not to be saved but because you want to honor God or for benefit

I hope this helps, Romans 14:12So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

13Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

14I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

15But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

16Let not then your good be evil spoken of:

17For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

18For he that in these things serveth Christ is acceptable to God, and approved of men.

19Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

20For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.

21It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.

22Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.

23And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Doesn't in collude sins

Here is the verse, 13There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. It is talking about being tempted not being able to stand suffering, but I hope this verse explains it and Let me say this, God's word is where we find shelter you have to read read read it. Philippians 1:29

"For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;"

Romans 8:17

"And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together."

1 Peter 2:20

"For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God."

I pray this helps and if you use the search box and use suffer, suffering you can read more verses and remember Jesus sent the Comforter to us, the Holy ghost to comfort us. I'll being praying for you.