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Mike,

There is only one gift that a person is given when they receive Christ. It is the gift of the Holy Spirit. There is no other "gift" that is given to a believer. Tongues was never given as a gift in the early church and it is not given as a gift today. There are many today who speak in "tongues" but how do we know if it's from God? Personally, what I see taking place in the church today is not the tongues that the bible speaks of.

As to the second part of your question, "how does one know that the person who has the gift of translation is actually translating the true message spoken by the person with the gift of tongues?"

That is a great question. How can we know? Also, there is no such thing as the gift of translation. No place in scripture says that anyone needs to translate tongues. In Acts Chapter 2, when the Holy Spirit fell on those who spoke in tongues, no one needed to translate. Those who heard them speak in tongues knew what was being spoken because it was in their own native languages and dialect. They did not need a translator.

In 1 Corinthians 14:27 where it says let one interpret, the word interpret does not mean to translate. It mean to explain. And that's what took place in Acts Chapter 2. There was no need to translate what was being said, but they did give an explanation!

Kathy, my heart felt prayers for her, May I suggest, James 5:13Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.

14Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

16Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

One night while laying bed and praying I was overcome by the Spirit, and I started speaking rather praying in tongues the next thing I know is that it was morning and I had prayed in tongues the whole night. So, I know they do exist are a sign of having the Holy Ghost, Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Now as far as interpretations and Prophesying I'm sure it exists but knowing whether the person is really doing it I don't know if you can tell. I've attended Churches that do it speak and interpret it felt strange. I can tell you this that all gifts and answers to prayers depend on our righteousness, James 5:16

"Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

King James Version (KJV)

I suggest you do a word search on tongues and study it, comparing all the verses which pertain to it and pray because many times when I have a question on scripture it's revealed at a later time while I'm reading or sometime while praying. But the most important thing is obeying God's word, but one must know it to obey. Here are some verses to help you in understanding God's word: 2 Timothy 2:15, John 14:26, 1 John 2:27, Romans 12:1 I'm not sure why or how I begun speaking in tongues, but I do know it's a sign of having the Holy ghost as we see happen in ACTS, In ACTS there is a verse that says in reference to it that says they only yet believe and have not received the Holy ghost as we. I believe that if you are truly saved the baptism of the Holy Ghost happens so the believing in Jesus is emphasized by believing it in your heart, like it's real, knowing it with doubt. John 5:39

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

faith without works is dead, read, study, pray, and serve God, faithfulness in whatever you do, do it as unto the Lord not man. Obedience.

Hey Fred,

1 Timothy 4:7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.

Fables mthos - a myth; mythology, a false account, masquerading as the truth, replacing what is true. How much mythology has crept in? Without study and prayer how do we know? Are our ears plugged, do we have ears to hear?

Well said Fred, may it cause one to pray and study to know the truth without trying to make it fit a preconceived idea planted by a myth.

God bless,

RLW

With respect and affection . I believe that I was a bit neglectful when I at first replied to this question and that I should have backed up my answer with some scripture references . I believe that these scriptures show that there is a difference between people who r saved and who r not , also that God Himself puts a difference between them and that He expects the saved not to b as the rest of humanity . I could give very very many references but I hope these few will b helpful to u . James Ch 2 V 23 ,Gen Ch 21 V 1-12 , Levi Ch 15 V 31 , Ex Ch 15 V 26 , Ex Ch 7 V 5 , Ex Ch 8 V 22+23 , Ex Ch 9 V 3-6 , Ex Ch 9 V 19-21 , Deut Ch 25 V 5-10 , Deut Ch 28 , Josh Ch 1 V 18 , 2nd Kings Ch 17 , Nehemiah Ch 9 , Psalm 145 V 17-20 , Psalm 149 , Luke Ch 13 V 1-5 + V 23-29 , all of Jude , Rev Ch 9 V 15-21 , Rev Ch 11 V 18 , Rev Ch 21 V 7+8 , Rev Ch 22 11+14+15 and finally Romans Ch 9 . I'm sorry I wasn't clearer with my first answer , I'm new at this so I hope u will forgive me and cut me a bit of slack . Thanks .

Do people still have the gift of tongues today? Also, how does one know that the person who has the gift of translation is actually translating the true message spoken by the person with the gift of tongues?

Please Reflect on Psalm 46, John 16:33, Isaiah 43:2, and Proverbs 3:5-6.

Dear Fred

Thank you. Well stated

Dear Fred

Thank you. Well stated

Thanks Donna. Well stated.

Dear Grae

I understand your point of view about posts and responses.

Yet, keep in mind that this is a discussion forum, therefore there is nothing wrong with someone responding to posts.

Oftentimes responses help clarify ideas, give additional information, and offer a different viewpoint, and bring correction to what one may think is misinformation.

Even if you do not read or respond back to a response to your post, some of us will still respond for the sake of ALL who read through the posts on this discussion forum. So this is the reason I have responded back to you, but I certainly do not want to bother you.

God bless you, Grae

Dear Grae

Jews are the descendants of Judah, so there were no Jews before Judah. Israelites are descendants of Jacob, so there were no Israelites before Jacob

Hebrews are the descendants of Eber, of which Abraham is one descendant. Ever is a descendant of Shem, so there were no Hebrews before Eber.

God had not separated out the chosen nation yet in the times of the people I mentioned. So everyone was gentile (commoners).

Amen! Thank you so much for sharing this! There are so many who need to hear this myself included I need to know what the Lord is doing for others it strengthens my own faith so testify brother!

We are made over comers by the word of our testimony and the blood of the lamb.

I also was healed of deadly sepsis twice.

God has been merciful to me. I didn't deserve it. (I have a praying mama) He has never left me or forsaken me and that is MY BIGGEST TESTIMONY thus far!

Hindsight is always 2020. Someday we will look back and we will see all the Lord's goodness in our lives and how he brought us through.

I just want to praise him today for that and I just want to thank him I just wanna bow down and worship him tell him how much I love him

I want to know people in heaven ask for blessing or prayers for people on earth

Robert, I'm praying for your dad. In Jesus name, amen

And for you that God will comfort your heart.

I pray for peace, joy, love, HEALING, gratitude, blessings, STRENGTH!

The Lord is WITH YOU & PAPA. I just know! :-).

Sean, I am praying for you today

Please pray for Ordene Francis, whom is at home on hospice diagnosis with stomach cancer, but we believe it's an evil attack, because things are popping out of her stomach! The doctors say they have never seen anything like this before! I know the Lord is still a miracle worker! So I am calling on all prayer warriors to stand in the gap, touch and agree, with us that God will heal and deliver Ordene in the Mighty name of Jesus!

Thank you for your prayers!

God bless

Kathy

2things about water baptism to consider.

#1 is WHO was present (in Spirit) at the baptism of Jesus Christ himself? Answer; God the Father, Jesus himself, and the Holy Spirit that descended upon Jesus, like a dove!(Father, Son, Holy Spirit, right?)

#2 Why did Jesus Christ himself say in Matthew 28:19 to "go ye therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the FATHER and of the SON and of the HOLY GHOST, teaching them to observe all things what so ever I HAVE commanded you and low I am With you always even until the end of the world amen".

Jesus said this after He resurrected before He ascended to THE FATHER.

Please make sure that you study the whole Bible YOURSELF, PRAYERFULLY. And if something doesn't sit right in your spirit then keep praying about it keep studying. Be careful not to cherry pick scriptures from the Bible but take the entire Bible as a whole when seeking your answers.

Lord be with you and your search.

God is faithful and true and he will not let you be deceived if you seek Him with all your heart

In the old testament Adam and Eve had children. Where did their wives come from. They were the first people created

I am quite sure I have seen scripture warning us about loving receiving material gifts, thank you

Wait a minute. What??? Where is the church going? When will the church be gone?

Please, I haven't any recollection of reading this. Where do I find this info in the Bible?

My old pastor(BTW, please pray for him) used to say that in the end times the world would be like a huge witches Coven Full of darkness and evil like nobody has ever seen before.

The gentiles worshiped Roman Empire Gods. The Roman Empire was primarily a polytheistic civilization, which meant that people recognized and worshiped multiple gods and goddesses. The main god and goddesses in Roman culture were Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva

Romans chapter 1 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Thank you so much for your timely reply. May God bless you for your efforts.

I love the Lord with all my heart surely his goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of life

Please Pray for my Father Robert Stevenson, at hospital in NC, needs Gods intervention NOW! Having trouble getting oxygen levels up, covid pneumonia, send HEALING and STRENGTH!!

Thanks! God Bless!

Faith is simply believing GOD'S Word!

I hope u don't mind but I don't really wish to get into discussions with any other posters . I have seen on this site how things can degenerate quite quickly so I hope to b able to keep myself to myself . I like to come on , read through the questions and top posts and if I feel I can answer anything , I do . I don't mind what u or anyone thinks of my answers and I'm not interested to know . U may comment on my answers all u wish , I really don't mind , I would appreciate it if u didn't address your comments to me as I don't want to b drawn into lengthy discussions and I don't usually read anyone elses " replies " . I hope I haven't offended u as that's not my intention at all , I like to b honest so I've told u how I feel . Thanks to u and everyone else reading this , God bless u all .

The names u mentioned r not the names of gentiles . Gentiles r any one who is not Jewish .

1 ST COR. 12 : 13...By 1 spirit are we all baptised into the body of Christ,...Whether we be Jew or Gentile,...Bond or Free

Thus there is no more Jew or Gentile, Bond or Free in Christ Jesus.....Under this new covenant the man of Promise is the

the H.G......We can only be a joint Heir with Him the H.G. That has to be born in us via the seed of Christ Jesus......Gal.

4 : 1.... Now i say unto you that the Heir as long as he is a Child....( impling he has to be born in US.) And He is Lord of ALL, He is under Tutors and Goverors till the time appointed OF the Father ....Thats when the KiNGDOM comes in its fulness with in us......Unto the full statue of the son of GOD with in us....Not I that live but Christ that lives with in me...Which is the fulness of the KINGDOM WITH IN US..Thats y Jesus is saying unless ya receive the KiNGDOM as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....Its the H.G. that is the seed of Christ thus its the H.G that is the ISRAEL OF GOD...The multiplication of God in us via the words of that new covenant...the seeds of the sower

......That was the great PROMISE that Christ wd be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven.....And the Child of Promise is the H.G.....Thus its the H.G. that is the ISRAEL OF God.....That is gonna be born in US sinners that hear his words and keeps them....We be the woman ,the world where that good seed is sown .....When Jesus said behold i send the Promise of my FATHER UPON YOU THAT WAS BAPTISM OF THE H.G.....The birth of a baby Christ with in them...that Child of Promise the H.G.....The MULTIPLICATION of Christ Jesus in humanity

....When he said that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit thats the Child of Promise the H.G......The Israel of God.....

Thus the Kingdom will truly be within US