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Hi Chris

You said that it wasn't even in the shape of a dove but Luke 3:22 says that it was in the shape of a dove. Like I said before it was done that way to indicate the type of ministry Jesus Christ would have.

Hi

How are things going with your brother and family?

Hi Jesse

Thank you for the helpful information

Perhaps this incident was during the time of Teshuva.

I wish it would have said so. Then we would have a clearer idea.

And I do not know Hebrew nor Greek. And if I did I would never consider myself to have superior knowledge over another believer, as it is the Spirit who brings us true knowledge of Truth.

I appreciate those who do have some study of Hebrew and Greek. I find this input helpful. Do thanks!

Same word here as in verse 22, "fill the waters and the seas". I think here also; "fill the earth".

Prior to this the "earth" is described as "without form and void", (tohu va bohu), a shapeless mass of confusion and emptiness. Then came the "word of God" who spoke "light". The entrance of Your words gives light ... ( Psalm 119:130)

also, how wonderful here how God, great and holy as He is, seeks relationship. He has a plan and a way to bring life and blessing to His people.

Jesse Hello Gods Word fits so perfect, we will never catch up its hard enough to stay focused on it some days

anyway good stuff headed to the bema!

Therefore; at the time of the next major conflict that could start the last generation; but that could be a 40 year generation as well.

Gigi I've decided to not go here anymore because a whats the profit and not everyone chooses to get into

language meanings which can enhance understanding, even the term every jot and tittle has a remarkable

meaning in eastern culture. So what you believe is your privilege and vise versa, plus the idea is each one win

one and this wins none so onward to the bema. God Bless

Verse 10 of this Psalm certainly gives us pause to think of an average lifespan; as the last years are indeed a struggle. If this refers to the last generation; we need to consider that 1948 may not have been the correct beginning for that day.

We notice where Christ says"..behold the fig trees and ALL the trees.." ( Luke 21:29) This would perhaps indicate economic prosperity for the surrounding nations which the Gulf states are already seeing ahead of them with agreements with Israel. It would seem for Israel to be attacked when they live securely and with unwalled villages in the Ezekiel 38 war; first the events of Psalm 83 would expand Israel's borders and eliminate the constant conflicts with the Palestinians and other nearby surrounding countries. Then; it would be likely the Daniel 27 covenant would have a league with countries such as Iran; Turkey; Syria and perhaps others in N. Africa and make it seem that Israel's issues are over. Just another perspective here. In any event; this psalm tells us that we are to "number our days." (v.12). Life is as a fleeting shadow; there is truly little time before night comes; and no man can work ( John 9:4). The millennium seems a clear concept as well here from v. 4; with the last day of rest for the whole world bringing the world in a way back to the way it was on the last day of the Creation; a sort of rest for the whole creation that has been travailing to this point.( Romans 8:22 etal).

if I understand correctly, Moses alone was permitted to approach God. This is about the great Majesty and holiness of God, how we, before Christ, stand naked before a holy righteous judge. Now under the gospel what a privilege we enjoy to have "boldness to enter the holiest by the blood of Jesus". Hallelujah!

Gigi,

I figured that one out when I first read it. It seems to me that it's your computer that's being the dork! I mentioned a couple of Hebrew terms, Teshuva, and Mikveh. From what I've read and learned, and please correct me if I'm wrong as I'm sure you are far more superior in your understanding of the Hebrew than myself. I know some Hebrew but not much.

My understanding of Teshuva is that it's the English transliteration of the word for repentance in Hebrew. Every year, even to this day, the Jews celebrate repentance, called Teshuva. They go down to the Sea of Galilee and get baptized showing the repentance of their sins.

It's a ritual that they do every single year. It begins with the baptism. They go 40 days of repentance, and on the 40th day, that day is a day of fasting. And then Teshuva is over.

Mikveh, is the Hebrew word for baptism. If I am speaking to a Jew about baptism, I don't use the word baptism, I would use the word Mikveh. John went down and he was holding a Mikveh during Teshuva.

So, if I follow this through, I come to understand that Matthew Chapter 3 and 4 is all about this time frame because at that time John is baptizing, and all of Israel has come out. And there are different people who are baptizing at different places at the Sea of Galilee. And they heard about John, and they are all now flocking around John's baptism because this is a "very strange guy!"

Here is John talking about the Kingdom of heaven having arrived and he is baptizing the Jews in preparation for the coming of Messiah. And who comes on the scene but Yeshua Himself, and John baptizes Him.

So, there's a very special meaning to John's baptism. When I get to Chapter 4, when Jesus is out in the wilderness for 40 days, this was during Teshuva. And immediately after He was baptized, He goes out into the wilderness for 40 days. He has been fasting for 40 days, but on the 40th day is the day of fasting. But this entire time period is the Teshuva and the Mikveh.

Psalm 89

This psalm is multifaceted. There are many parallel references to David and Christ ruling in the future Millennium period (v.22-23); with a covenant promising these things as well as the eternal aspects of these promises. There is also the apparent violation of God of a covenant to Ethan the Ezrahite in v. 38-51. This; of course can't be true; but it is clear from the earlier verses that chastisement can occur but God never ultimately forsakes His eternal covenants; as long as the moon and sun remain. There is a description of the heavens and the earth (v.11) which reminds us of the evidences of God to the world in Romans 1 and Psalm 19. There is the fear and reverence of God shown from the saints in the assembly which could symbolize souls of the righteous and/or the future Resurrected and raptured saint of God.

Hi dear friend in Jesus. Ty for ur post. So wonderfull it is with faith. Then also how different we are. I have for some time ago fond good memories from ppl who is from Orthodox church. I still have.

So when we search for faith and proff, we find blessed Paul who taught the ppl about Jesus. All the way too Rome in Italy. :) and blessed Paul.

For me it is not a different dear Gigi. You belive that Jesus is God Son, me too. Differences come with cultures and different ppl. Human fear and abuse of power unfortunately. Power hungry ppl and delusions.

We belive that Jesus is God Son.

For it has always been so. The church has had great power always right?

I think is right to stay there we are 'born'. Its there we can work with dayly task, like pray, love each other. give suport and mm.

Please understand me right. I'm not saying now that more charismatic church is preferable. In front of another. Becouse we are all humans.

I try too say that all of us need only One. That's Jesus Christ. He shall have all honor and all praise. And the church will demand for it self.

Then we have all the diffrences again.

I think you're a strong person Who has started too understand orthodoxy. I also want to learn more. But I have to say, they're Christians With something extra. I hope non take this Personal. I take comfort in the watering down the ranks of Christians. From Israel too all over the world! Thats a bitt.

But the Spirit is the same. There's no changing shadow in Him.

God bless u and Go ahead and read in the name of Jesus he finishes what He has begun. One way or the other. Please take care in the word. So u dont get confused. Love u all in Christ.

All who belivs in Jesus Christ!

Gigi Breath life equals= soul life which when a person takes their first breath that's the start of soul life which

biblically has an end when man takes his last breath but spirit life is eternal. The word breath there is nishma[for

breathing but in other places the word for breath[is ruach which can mean breath air wind or spirit] depending

on context. So all this depends on the context of usage of words, not making this up just being honest and not

at all argumentative just part of research.

Can you explain "the simple" in verse 6?

An expanse, something spread out, as in the visible arch of the sky

Context and identification of individual or group being addressed in any chapter or Book in God's Word is key to determine

specifically who God is speaking to. All Scripture was preserved for us, but not all verses are written to us. The promise, "no weapon formed against thee shall prosper......" was a promise of God specific to Israel the nation and people. The "weapons" being spoken of are literal, physical weapons of war. Notice the references to "blowing the coals in the fire......

bringing forth an instrument of his work.... and the word "smith" as in metal or blacksmith.(these are implements of war).

If this is a promise to all believers and applies some spiritual meaning to be a protection from harm from weapons or attacks as a believers claim to it, thru the finished work of Salvation, then where is the application to those who were/are beheaded for their faith and refusal to convert to Islam?!!!! Why are we then exhorted as Christians to, "put on the whole armor of God"( Eph. 6:11-18)? Because the weapons here in Ephesians are our weapons for battle, rather than some twist of a promise of God to Israel mis-applied to us(the Church).

Bro Dan

I agree. When dealing with Scripture, I look. To the plain meaning of the text first, as like you, I feel that the Lord God intended His words tone plainly understood without needed to look for obscure underlying interpretations or hidden meaning.

He is not a "trickster" like the devil. He said that His word is Truth. So we can believe it and trust it. We also trust the Holy Spirit to teach us all that is necessary for life and godliness, as He sanctified us through His word.

I do think is is good and appropriate to have deep thoughts on Scrpture. It is often in those times that the Spirit illuminates a Scripture for an individual to apply to their life.

But, that said, I think it wise for one to read the whole of Scripture often, to hide it in one's heart, rather than just focusing on a select few Scripture verses and viewpoints that one uses as the lens for all interpretation. There is folly in doing so. That is why I am thankful that the Lord called me to read the Bible from the age of 9. I have 50+ years of intaking of the Word and I have been richly blessed by doing so.

Hi Joleen,

I read what you wrote and it didn't effect me until I prayed for you.

I guess what you are asking for is what I need as a believer too.

To love the Lord more and to find the joy that was once mine as a new believer.

Thank you for touching my heart this afternoon.

Helene

Good Morning Free.

Thanks for the post. We all should approach the Word with a humble heart. We all should speak the word with humility , knowing we are frail humans. And we should all present our viewpoints with humility, being willing to change it if one finds a convincing argument that reveals error in one's thinking.

But at the same time we are to

Hold fast to the faith that was once and for all handed down to the church. So, for me, it is important to study and know what this faith (body of doctrines) is. That is why I study orthodox beliefs and then study what has been considered error and heresy. That way

I become wise to the deception of the enemy as I hold every teaching up to the Word of God.

Why did God set boundaries for the people in Exodus 19:11-12. Only Aaron & Moses were permitted to be on it. We're they not worthy?

Rick

I was referring to Genesis 2:7 and the Lord God formed man if the dust of the ground , and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

I did not post that God breathed the Spirit into man.

I was referring to the action of God breathing something into man, the breath of life in Genesis, and the Spirit of Life into the apostles in John. God's actions and words are powerful and effective and accomplish His purpose every time

Jane, I fully agree with you. Women equals chaos that is why she is to stand beside the man not in front or behind. God made us for our purpose and man for his purpose. Never is a women to rule. She is there to pray, keep God in all her and the man's ways, help with the man's strength, to encourage, to console, bear the children, rise them up and he is her help. God is good all the time and all the time God is good.

Whoops

Meant to say "Spirt's work" not dork. I hate using the small letters on my phone, but my computer is acting up and sometimes I can't use it for a few hours, Grrrr

Good Mornng Jesse,

I was just commented about your reference to MIKVAH

As it seemed to

Me that perhaps you thought that that was what Jesus was doing for His baptism.

That's all.

As to the conversation that continues to come up about baptism, it is obvious that some of us have a firm stance on this topic and present that view unequivocally . That is not ugly to do so, but some may be uncomfortable with people being in disagreement with one another. I get that.

But, that being said, Jesse, I always am glad to read your contribution. Like you, I have been water and Spirit "baptized." But for those who have been water baptized and not had the Spirit come upon them in power, they can be assured that they still are indwelt with the Holy Spirit as He is the One who regenerates us , gives us faith to believe, and comes to live within every new believer. One cannot be a believer without the grace of the Holy Spurit's dork and presence. As people live their life with the Spirit within, they will grow up n Christ and be equipped for every good work whether they have a "Pentecost" type of experience or not. The same Spirit works in each of us according to His will, not ours. God is the authority and power in every believer. I say this to

Encourage everyone to realize God is the author and finisher of our faith.

Are there sermons on Suddenly?

Please pray people find God in their life,please pray we speak life and please pray for the world.PleAse pray including myself we don't take God love blessings for granted.PleAse pray that my family can have a female white puppy with brown on her please thank you

Good morning Catherine

From what I know of classic orthodox teaching

Jesus did not become the Son of God at Jis conception.

He always as the son of God from all eternity. He existed with the Father and the Holy Spirit from all eternity without ever having a beginning .

When the Son of God incarnated in Mary he also began as the Son of Man, human with a conveption, a beginning. From conception on This Jesus was both Son of God and Son of Man for eternity, never shedding His Godhood nor humanity, being both God and man in one person.

I just wanted to clarify that for those who wish to know the constant teaching of the church fro it's beginning through the centuries.

The view that Jesus became God's Son at conception has been considered heresy

Throughout the centuries.

This view is held by some today and, because the church is now so tolerant of aberrant views, it continues to spread unchallenged in many sects.

For me, I believe and will uphold what I know to be standar orthodox teaching.

Others may disagree with me and I respect their right to say so as I would ask that I be given the same respect.

Have a good day.

Hello Gigi,

I hope this wasn't directed toward me because you feel as though I have a wrong or negative opinion about water baptism? I think I have a fairly decent grasp on what the scripture teaches on water baptism, and I can tell you that I've been both Spirit baptized (Born of God's Spirit), and water baptized. I was following along with the thread a couple days ago about water baptism, but I chose to stay out of that one because, although respectful, it seemed to get a little ugly.

It's sort of sad that that happens where someone asks a question about water baptism, or any other of the controversial topics, and right away you can predict what's getting ready to happen.

But anyway, I will take some time today to study a few things out to see where I might have been in error in what I sent to Alex because I am not completely sure what I said that you feel is in error. I do know that Jesus was not a Levite, but John the baptizer was.

As for your last statement, "Let's just believe that Jesus was water baptized and the whole Godhead was present for it, just as when we are water baptized in the name of the Father, and if the Son, and if the Holy Spirit,"

To that I'll just say, "Yes Ma'am, that's what I believe!"

Amen to that GiGi,

God bless,

RLW