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I wish to break every witchcraft and spell upon my life. I set myself free from any spell holding me back because what I do not know of will not know me.

A prayer all those who wronged us the they may come to repentance and see Jesus saves

Okay. Thank you

Thank you

It is getting better. Not fully yet but better.

Thank you!!

You're welcome Michael.

God bless.

Hi Gigi.

Thanks for replying.

Gigi, I have enjoyed and talked about every biblical topic you can imagine on this site as well as others but I never neglect what's most important. "Our commission.

With that being said the distraction I spoke to Brother Ronald about wasn't because there were other topics than Soteriology.

The distractions is the quarrels over less important issues.

If someone won me over with their eschatology that wont save me!

So, if someone comes on the site for help in their walk or faith, Don't be distracted by the quarrels and take the time and help them.

Gigi, I've seen you do that!

Maybe this will help.

I pasted and copied the "theme" of my conversation to Ronald.

"That is true Brother Ronald but finding having the truth doesn't necessarily eliminate pride.

To quarrel about a secondary topic and neglect what's most important is a show of pride.

You see we set Christ commission aside to do our own thing.

Winning a debate doesn't out weigh Winning souls.

Here's an example of what I noticed.

A person posted questions on their fear of coming to Christ. That message lingered for hours before there was an response while posts of several topics went on.

When one or two offered their help on the subject the thread was flooded but not many of those replies went to the lady posting. (By the way, it was a guy)

This person's request for help was ignored while debates went on.

There's the distraction!

Jaz was the first to respond.

As for Unity.

Being in agreement with one Doctrinally doesn't necessarily mean you have unity. There are those who doesn't want to have nothing to say or do with others because of diverse reasons.

As you said, "You don't think there is a need for us to discuss this further"

Thanks for joining in!

I will be discussing it as I always has. Perhaps on a separate thread.

God bless you.

Signs -water-2

"Then Isaac sowed in that land, and received in the same year an hundredfold: and the Lord blessed him." (Ge.26:12)

Isaac is set as a sign. He is set in the frame of reference to the Son. As the heir of promise his blessings came from the everlasting covenant.. It has nothing to do with Abraham as Christians have ben taught by imposter church. The Spirit tags here with hundredfold with the same meaning as Jesus promised his disciples. " And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life."(Matt.19:29) Man's life was set in terms of 120 (12x10) years. (Ge.6:3) Hundred refers to the day decreed for the Son. The end times has 144x1000 as a tag so the number of saints redeemed from the earth standing on the mount Sion is 144,000. (Re.14:1). Blessings of Abraham and Isaac come from the Ge.1:28. God allowed Abraham to sojourn in Egypt during the famine while He commanded Isaac to obey the everlasting covenant instead. "And said, Go not down into Egypt; dwell in the land which I shall tell thee of." Blessedness came from obedience to the covenant and not to Abraham. Literalism gives altogether a different meaning.

Water as a sign we see from the quarrel ensued between the servants of the king and of Isaac. Notice the expression,"unto this day". The servant report to Isaac," We have found water./And he called it Shebah: therefore the name of the city is Beersheba unto this day. "(Ge.26:32-33) Name of persons, places and events are thus tagged as signs ad it owes to the everlasting covenant. In association with the great stone of Abel we have this verse,"even unto the great stone of Abel, whereon they set down the ark of the Lord: which stone remaineth unto this day in the field of Joshua, the Bethshemite." (1 Sa.6:18) Apart from 'unto this day' the name Joshua is the Hebrew variant of Jesus.

Just thinking today of all my spiritual family that I haven't seen or heard from in a long time . Miss so many of them and their wisdom and support . I had a brother in Lamesa but haven't heard from him for ages . We never forget the ones we love . It's easy to forget the meanies but the ones we have loved stay in our hearts forever . Treasure your spiritual family at least as much as your physical . I know I do , even more so to be honest .

Dear Christian , I'm so glad for you . It is when life is at its most difficult that we need to lean even harder on our God . This is what faith is all about , knowing that God is with us every second of every day no matter what . The physical world in which we live can be very brutal , to us personally and the things that we see and hear going on around us can be truly terrifying . We must cling even tighter to our Rock , He is our peace , our calm in the storm that is these kingdoms of men , as long as we have faith in Him and His love and mercy , we shall come through anything and everything that this life throws at us . When these tough times come upon us we must rejoice in Him even more than usual and be grateful for the opportunity for our faith to grow in Him , through Christ our Passover Lamb . This tough time for you will stay in your memory and in the future , maybe you will be feeling a bit low or doubtful or afraid and you will remember this time . The time that you were potentially in trouble but you knew , every step of the way , that God was with you guiding your feet and keeping you close to Him . Praise God for His love and His boundless wisdom and gentle guidance .

I prayed for you this morning. 5/23/24

"Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also."

John 15:20 (KJV)

Thank you and GOD bless you and your family

please remember me and my daughters and their families in your prayers , please pray for the lost

Signs-Water

"Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:/ But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life." ( John 4:13-14) Two kinds of water.

Thirsting again is the quality of water that went up as a mist, "But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground."(Ge.2:7) What God gave Samson to drink was the same. This sign is within frame of reference to the day decreed for the Son. Thus blessings stipulated in the covenant or condemnation arises. This is made clear by unto this day and in that day. The latter refers to the condemnation.

"But the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life," is what every believer or true worshiper could claim."n the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink."( John 7:37-38; Is.55:1) The two kinds of water have thus different source as Adam and the last Adam have. "The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven."(1 Co.15:47)

It is thus we distinguish between Sabbath as one day which need like water from the Jacob's Well. But thirst never gos away. The water unto everlasting life that we drink in the Son signified we have entered into the rest with the Son.

Does this insight come from human intellect or from the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ?" (2 Co.4:6) The heretical sects who make much Israel and Sabbath are holding truth in unrighteousness. More worse is that the refuse to come to light because their works are evil." And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. ( John 3:19-20) What is their take on the unity of the Spirit. Drivel.

Signs: "water and fire"

Water

"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."(Ge.1:6) As with separation of light we have God making a distinction between the waters above and below the firmament. So signs where water from the earth rising as a mist is different from the river flowing out of Eden to water the garden on the east of Eden. Everlasting covenant applies here as well. Adam whose sin of disobedience proved that he was a servant. "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"(Ro.6:16). Jesus gives us a clue to the expulsion of Adam, "And the servant abideth not in the house for ever( John 8:35-36). The Garden that God planted was for the last Adam. It also example the purpose of the water,"But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground." This is the quality of 'the vile body' of flesh and blood.(Ge.2:7-8) The first Adam was earthy on account of it.

Water sent from God we shall see at several places, so everlasting covenant is operational. The ground was cursed on account of sin and when Hagar was in dire straits in the wilderness of Beersheba we read that God opened her eyes, "And she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink."Ge.21:19). This river of time flows till the last chapter. Against which Moses giving Israelite water to drink and quenching the thirst of mighty Samson which establishes the covenant is working. God sent succour to him and the place, "which is in Lehi unto this day:(Ju.15:19). This water serves as a sign that he was blessed in the Son according to the covenant. On the contrary we have " In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness." (Ze.13:1). This is in relation to the new earth.

Matt.16:3-4 "Signs""O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?/A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas."

Jesus the word become flesh was the sign and it referred to the Father who sent him. So whatever signs the Jews sought belonged to a wicked and adulterous generation. Isaiah referring to his sons referred to another generation which owed it validity from the everlasting covenant. "Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion."(Is.8:16). God had determined beforehand what their names shall be. It applied to the spirit of the times, a specific threat from Syria. In relation to the national identity of Israel these two sons were living proof that His promises shall not fail. Signs based on the Generation of Jesus owed to the covenant. For this reason Jesus referred the sign of the prophet Jonah. It referred to the death and resurrection of his Son.,The writer to the Hebrews cites Isaiah in order to show the generation of Jesus covered the day God decreed for his Son.(Ps.2:7). " Behold I and the children which God hath given me" leads us to the reason for the humanity of Jesus. Sanctification is what it meant. "Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people." So who sanctifies the people? (He.2:10-11). This shall throw light on the commandment on Sabbath. "Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you."(Ex.31:13) That ye may know." Without this their disbelief made their generation, them hypocrites.

Something happen to me and it's so wonderful that I want to share it with you all.

I am dealing with a job related issue for the last four weeks and I have been frustrated. I would pray morning and night and cry out to GOD and believed no matter what happen, even in my frustrated, daily state. GOD still showed up with me each day!

Each day I was expecting an answer but only got a partical answer or no answer at all to move me forward to the next day to receive a closure on the matter. Yesterday I got terrible news but I instantly decided to not stop believing and keep going.

I have never used my Faith for this long a period of time and the sistuation is dire but I refuse to believe that my GOD is not greater than any issue I face.

I'm now, more Determined, Frustrated and Excited all in one while still praising the LORD each day. I still do not have my answer but here is his glory:

I'm talking to GOD with grace and confidence each day.

I'm speaking the words from the bible of GOD's promises to me.

I'm standing on his words because they cannot return unto him void.

Through this process GOD is revealing things I did not know that are hendering my answer and providing me with wisdom to overcome it. It's just amazing when you put your Faith on the line and trust the process of GOD behind the seen.

This is our GOD KING JESUS>>>>

GOD is AWESUME.....and Worthy to be praised.

Please pray for total and complete healing of all vision and eye problems for Stephen & Marian. Much suffering! Stephen has lost vision in left eye & Marian has multiple eye problems. Asking this miracle in the Most Awesome and Holy Name of Jesus. Thank you for praying and God Bless all of you.

Hello S Spencer again.

Thankyou for your patience and guidence.This is sincerly appreciated and taken to heart.You have greatly expanded my experiance and journey.I have some distance to travel now and i feel excited about this.Thankyou.I feel i must stay intouch with you and Dear Gigi you are a comfort to me that i do not want to leave behind.Through KJV i will be intouch with you both again thankyou both.

Michael.May God be with you both.

Hello again Gigi.

I am more than gratefull for your patience with me.Thankyou.Your advice and guidence has expanded and taught me much already.I understand that this is a journey that never ends.Not a race to the finish.I have a large volume of reading and learning ahead.I tend to see this with excitement.Dont ask me to explain this because i can't.But in saying that i do know.A juxtaposition i know.Thankyou again Gigi.May God be with you.

Michael.

Luke 17:28-30-JESUS said:

28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot;they did eat,they drank,they bought,they sold,they planted,they builded;

29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven,and destroyed them all.

30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

What was there or what happened in Sodoma,and Gomorra,and in the neighboring cities? Well,GOD sent two men there.And they said unto Lot,Hast thou here any besides?son in law,and thy sons,and thy daughters,and whatsoever thou hast in the city,bring them out of this place:For we will DESTROY THIS PLACE,because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the Lord;and the Lord hath SENT US to DESTROY IT-Gen.19:12-13.

And Lot went out,and spake unto his sons in law,which married his daughters,and said, Up, get you out of this place;for the Lord will destroy this city.But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law-Gen.19:14.

Again:Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.Yes, even thus shall it be now,even now,from now on,the difference is that now is sent only one,not two men,and now the order/the command is to DESTROY THE WHOLE WORLD OF THE DEVIL,the process of destruction of the Devil's world is already running,understand?

Do you believe or you are like the sons in law of Lot thinking that I'm moking you?No surprise,if so.JESUS said:even thus will be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.Who is he?Michael- Daniel 12:1-3, Matthew 24:15-25 and 1Thessalonians 4:16.

Get ready

Satan will be cast down into the bottomless pit,and his followers- 1Corinthians 6:9-10 and Revelation 21:8-,will be cast into the lake of fire.

Re.20:1-3->1And I saw an angel come down from heaven,having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.And he laid hold on the dragon,that old serpent,which is the Devil,and Satan,and bound him a thousand years...and set a seal upon him,that he should deceive the nations no more

Hello, to my fellow members in Christ. I am asking for prayers for my brother.. that he be healed in the name of Jesus Christ.. He is very sick right now.. I would very much appreciate your prayers, Thank you.

Hello Momsage. I'm surprised by your engaging with me here, since you haven't rescinded your past request in this regard.

In any case, to respond now to your question, I think you will agree that the Sabbath, as with the other nine commandments were given purely to the children of Israel. I say that with some confidence as you stated this fact (in part) to Naisa Koroi, "The 4th commandment, although, addressed to Israel at the time God gave them, were for ALL of Gods children...".

So our difference is not on which day the Sabbath falls (i.e. on the seventh day of the week, the day that the LORD chose to cease from all His works & sanctify it ( Genesis 2:2)), but whether the Jewish observance of the Sabbath is encumbent upon the one in Christ now. You've stated that the 4th Commandment is "for ALL of God's children", and this is where I would disagree. I would find it difficult to correctly understand the directives given to the Church from Jesus & the Apostles, and yet still hold onto the Law (which includes the Decalogue & other commandments) that not only don't apply to me, a Gentile, but of no value to the Church in Christ Jesus.

Probably like you, I grew up learning by rote, the Decalogue, as also the stories of Adam & Eve, the Flood, the Crucifixion, etc. And we accepted all that we were taught without question. But when I became new in Christ Jesus, many questions arose, and sometimes challenged my long-held beliefs carried through the years. So, by searching the Scriptures, I no longer count my previous learning valid, though very useful of course, but try to bring together all what the Bible teaches me. Many Scriptures assisted me in this, but one as an example is Galatians chap 3, and particularly verse 19: "Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made...". Jesus' Coming & Sacrifice negated all the Law - we are now to live by His Spirit, obeying His Laws imputed in us.

Hey Jaz,

Amen, we sometimes overlook meaningful things, at twilight the beginning of the 15th.

God bless,

RLW

S.Spencer,

I agree with you in this matter. I was just wanting to encourage you to begin conversation on this forum on soteriology since it seems the Lord has put that on your heart at this time. I look forward to these discussions.

I do want to say that any of us should follow the promptings of the Holy Spirit in our conversation here and elsewhere. It is not a distraction or divisive to discuss a wide range of topics here or elsewhere. We do need to enter such discussions as you said, humbly and lovingly, with forbearance and patience no matter what the topic. Discussing soteriology is always a good topic to discuss, but there are many other topics that speak to important doctrines taught in Scripture that aid in building up the church in wisdom and unity. We each should bring forward the topics the Holy Spirit is prompting us to do, for, as you said, there is one body and one Spirit.

I don't think there is a need for us to discuss this further as I do agree that we should desire unity and harmony as well as take time to speak the Gospel in situation that are presented to us by the Holy Spirit and that there are those who are new believers that may need further explanation on their recent conversion and new relationship with God in and through Jesus Chrsit.

Blessings to you, Steven, as always. I hope your evening goes very well. Will talk with you soon.

Hello Leshawn,

If by religious you mean coming to God for mercy and grace with the hope of being accepted by Him. If by religious you mean that you want to know God more and more and live for Him each day. If by religious you desire to live rightly but cannot. then I have good news for you. Anyone who desires to be religious in these ways can find acceptance and salvation in Jesus our Savior, He is the one who gave Himself for us so that we can be religious in the ways I've spoken of. We will be taken into communion with

God through Jesus and have a new nature that causes us to obey God and live to His glory.

The Gospel only speaks of Jesus and His saving work for us on the cross of Calvary as our substitute to bear the condemnation we deserve for our sins and then to rise victoriously from death to reign as our Lord and King.

You can find out more about this in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John along with the writings of Paul in the Epistles that follow the book of Acts. I recommend that you begin reading the Bible as I have suggested. Also, you may wish to meet with a Christian pastor who is willing to sit down with you and show you what the gospel of Jesus is in Scripture and how you can receive salvation in Jesus by believing the gospel message.

I will be praying for you in your desire to come to God according to the terms of the Gospel message. Check back with us to keep us up to date on your journey with God.

Hebrews 1:1-3-A period of 2000 years

1 GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,2 Hath in these last days(last two Days-2000 years)spoken unto us by His Son...heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;3Who being the brightness of His glory,and the express image of His person,and upholding all things by the Word of His power,when He had by Himself purged our sins,sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high.

GOD"s Plan was to create man in the sixth Day. GOD said:Ge.1:26-Let us make man in OUR image,after OUR likeness.But without JESUS, GOD's Plan was unfeasible,so 2000 years ago the Word was made flesh,was born JESUS.It was the fourth GOD's Day,i.e. 4000 years after Adam.GOD was still working in His wonderful Plan to create man in the sixth Day,as is written,not in the begining but in the END of the sixt Day.Then the Word,GOD Himself,self-executing,and JESUS,the Greater Light of fourth GOD's Day,which lighteth every man that cometh into the world, both have worked these last 2000 years to make man according to the GOD's Plan.

Many received JESUS,to them gave He power to become sons of GOD,to them that believe on His name,which were born not of blood,nor of the will of the flesh,nor of the will of man,but of GOD-Jo.1:12-13.

Ephesians 1:3-8

GOD chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world,we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus to Himself,according to the good pleasure of His will,to the praise of the glory of His grace,wherein He has made us accepted in the Beloved.In whom we have redemption through His blood,the forgiveness of sins,according to the riches of His grace;having made known unto us the MYSTERY of His will in the dispensation of the FULNESS of TIMES...In whom also we have obtained an inheritance,being PREDESTINATED according to the purpose of Him...that we should be to the praise of His glory...

Hi Chris.

If the day didn't matter why did God (Jesus) specifically command the Sabbath or the seventh day to be our day to rest like He did and emphasis it by telling us to remember it and then turn around when He was incarnate and discount it or change His mind about something so important?

A real day of rest, which is what God commanded, would be a real blessing for us. It rejuvenates the mind, body and soul. It gives us the opportunity to set the things of the world, work, even troubles, aside and gives us a full day to give God and family our undivided attention so we can just relax in the Lord. Fellowship with friends is good on the Sabbath also giving them real time and attention, not just a few minutes after church or sitting in a crowded, noisy restaurant.

That said, 2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew theyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth." is one of the most important scriptures we can read and obey, I believe. There are to many people telling us this and that and the other thing, including myself, so believers need to learn what God says about anything themself by studying and trusting the Holy Spirit to show them what God's will is. God Bless :)

Dear Christians . In case you didn't know , today is Pesach Sheni or , the second Passover . Numbers chapter 9 . One thing that I find striking about this feast/holiday is that it wasn't originally instituted by God . God gave it to the Israelites in response to their outcry of fear at being left out , unable to offer their offering and praise God along with every one else , due to ritual uncleanness . Also noteworthy is that it lasts just one day instead of the seven days of the first Passover . For me , this Pesach Sheni is a sign of hope , hope that you can always try to make amends and do what is right and acceptable to God , even if it's a bit later than it should have been , God doesn't slam the door in anyone's face and walk away . This second Passover us a full month after the first , God knows that we need Him and His mercy every day and He is very gracious in making Himself available and approachable . God is very considerate of us in our weakness and humanity . Through Christ our Redeemer and our Passover , we can have access to the Holy One of Israel . Praise God for His wonderful loving kindnesses towards us . Christ is the second Passover , bringing in the unclean ( us gentiles ) in one day he gave up his life for us , willingly . All things in the Old point to the New , this is why it's so important to read the Old as well as the New .