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The Bible does not teach eternal conscious torment. The consistent testimony of scripture is that "the wages of sin is death," and not eternal life. Romans 6:23; Genesis 2:17; Ezekiel 18:30-32; 1 John 5:12. It was the devil who first taught that one could sin and still have eternal life. Genesis 3:4. Jesus came to save us from perishing, and to give us eternal life, not to save us from living forever. John 3:16.

Hellfire is something that takes place at the end of this world, and not at death. John 5:28,29; Matthew 13:40. In it, soul and body are completely destroyed. Matthew 10:28; 2 Thess 1:9. It will consume the wicked into ashes. Revelation 20:9; Malachi 4:1-3; Psalm 37:20. Even the devil will be consumed to ashes. Ezekiel 28:18,19; Isaiah 47:14.

In the new earth, when all sin has been eradicated, there will be no more suffering or pain or death. Revelation 21:4.

Please pray for me that I get passed all my classes for the semester.

Thank You Adam and Gigi.

May I start by saying the blood of Jesus .Too my prayer warriors keep up the good work. My name is Latonya 46 year old woman awaiting a heart transplant . God is in control I'm still trusting in God for this miracle . I wanna pray for those that are on here ask in Jesus name and it shall be given unto you .. Lean not on your own understanding. Amen

Asking for strong protection, deliverance, healing, salvation (those not saved) and guidance. Asking this for us and all in need.

Bill The word there used for uprightly means complete and to walk complete before God is in obedience to

His Word because His Word is His will.

Please pray that God will heal me. I need sleep. And exercise. Thank you

Micheline Your Welcome God Bless

Adam, thank you. I know that the enemy of my soul would like me to doubt my salvation and doubt the word of God. I do believe every word of God in the Bible. :-).

Hi Donna, Jesus is the second person of the Godhead. Yahweh created the heavens and the earth by his word which is Jesus. Jesus has all power in his hand. He can be on the earth and maintain the entire universe(or get this, maybe even universes) at the same time.

Yahweh says that he will make everything new. There will be no more darkness. The Holy City itself will be compact. I think there will be houses, land, and animals that are not within the Holy City itself.

There is and always will be God Father, God the Son, and God The Holy Spirt. They are each eternal and work in perfect accord.

Hi James Norris, I give you words of encouragement and prayer. Jesus himself healed a woman who had an issue of blood, so we know that Jesus can heal you. Yahweh I present James Norris to you before the throne. He needs a healing. I ask that you just think it, and we know that it is completed. I do ask this in the name of your dear son Lord Jesus Christ.

Yahweh I come before you on behalf of Princess Newbold. May you please grant her long life, protection, prosperity, good health, and strength. I ask this because your dear son Lord Jesus Christ was greatly afflicted for our healing. So I come before the throne boldly, believing that she has already received it in the name of Jesus I do pray.

Hi, David. I now understand is to show an example of a life of a Christian that it is different. It is already understood that we are not to judge. Thank you, David.

is god Jesus?

Hi David, it seems you have a strong opinion of this. Is it right to call someone evil who simply believes Genesis 6:4?

It seems like some translations that call it Nephilim because they made a decision to leave the word roughly as it sounds in Hebrew. But translated is 'giants'. So, I'm not sure if you're against the N word or the concept of there being giants or something else. But this interpretation doesn't appear to be out of thin air and does legitimately appear in scripture:

Genesis 6:1-7

God bless

Hello Coy The shepherds were told specifically by the angels that ye shall find a child wrapped in swaddling

clothes a specific sign indicating that indeed who they saw was the Son of God. In the east a male child born

of royalty for a few minutes is wrapped with legs and arms straight to covering everything but the mouth and

nose to breath in a 2-3" clothe that has salt water in it indicating that the child's words would be pure and would walk uprightly before God. So the shepherds showed up at the exact correct time to see this event, Gods timing is

always perfect.

I thought your comment was very good.

I had peace with my Dads death. But when my mother died I was conflicted for a time just because of the way my family acted. I was in a state of exhaustion taking care of her and babysitting my toddler grandson 5 days a week, for 3 years.

My son and niece took my mother to her house; it was for to be 1 week. Long story short, my mother died there. They wanted to think they did good, but I was angry at their plotting.

I let go and let God work this out.

I kept it to myself, but I prayed to God on behalf of my mom and me. Not to her. It was a bad time because everyone thought their ideas were best. Strong personalities, you know? My son thought I'd be happier if I moved to a different place. I did just to get away from

Mismanagement and those who "think they know better, what's best." I lived through losing 2 brothers to drugs, my Dads death from Alzheimer's, and my Mother to dementia; within 5 years.

I weathered it. The Lord is my Comforter. I'm well, happy and get to minister every day now.

My parents are in heaven and that makes this easier.

Try to be more Spirit led when assessing how others should grieve. They're hurting with loss. The Bible says to cry with those who cry. Not in a morose way, but in "arms around". Laugh with those who are laughing.

Blessed Christmas. Peace, Mishael

Hi Donna In answer to what is outside the new Jerusalem Revelation 21:1+2 also verse 23-27 and chapter 22:1-5

answers one of your questions. Whats outside the new Jerusalem.

Jesse Good to hear from you as always and have a merry and a happy, God Bless.

Hi Jennifer Tell English Sacha that theirs a gap here for her that needs filled again, the body is missing a part!

Keep me. Prayer. High blood p5 also debites

Sister Jennifer,

I've really been missing Sister Sacha. Please send my love to Sacha and family. I pray for her return soon! I, and I'm sure others here, really miss her wit, humor, and great heartfelt commentary, along with her wonderful biblical knowledge.

God bless.

Hi Donna,

That's good that you are seeking the truth in the scriptures. You may consider praying and asking God for wisdom in regards to your questions.

The topic of Jesus and God has been frequently discussed in these forums. You can probably find them by doing an advanced search for those keywords.

If I understand one of your questions correct its if Jesus is God how why did He pray to Himself? And how can you be separate, but one at the same time? I think these questions conflate a few things. In our world we don't have anything similar to what is described in the Bible and try to make sense of it in human terms, but unfortunately in attempting to do so, often the truth of God's Word is then distorted and can turn into false teaching. Basically, I put my trust in God's word and believe what it says. I believe what it says instead of what a human being says. If someone preaches something other than what it says, I don't believe them.

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

How "one" are they and how "three" are they? We don't know, but it says the three are one so I believe it. If a man says the "three are three" that is untrue, because that's not what Bible says. If a man says "only one is one" and the other two are not "one", that is also untrue, because that's not what the Bible says.

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image"

"Let us" is plural, more than one.

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"The Word was God."

It says Jesus is the Word in verse 14, so the Bible says Jesus is God.

If it says it then I choose to believe it, even though I don't 100% comprehend how the 3 is 1 and 1 is 3 simultaneously.

Philippians 2:5-8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

"form of"

"equal with"

Donna Your correct that God is not the author of confusion so then the problem is always man and his belief systems.

When people die That is a teaching given to emphasize a point that if people aren't going to believe scripture from the living they won't believe from the dead. Look at context.

Bill Basically in harmony and alignment with Gods Word or fellowship with God and His Son.

GiGi, that's an amazing testimony! Thank You!

How am I supposed to read the Bible and what am I supposed to do with all the times that Jesus speaks to God his father, or praise to him in the garden, or what about when they're all present at the same time? I don't claim to have all knowledge and wisdom. But what about the times Jesus refers to himself in the third person? Why does he do that?

LUKE: 16: 19-31

There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

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And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

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And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

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And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into (heaven) Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

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And in hell he lift up his eyes, BEING IN TORMENTS, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

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And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

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But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

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And beside all this, between us and you there is a GREAT GULF FIXED: so that they which would pass from here to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.

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Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

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For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. (Hell)

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Abraham saith unto him, They have (the Law of) Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. (In the Bible)

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And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

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And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. (Jesus)

This story shows that the rich man is conscious, can feel pain, thirst and terror for, still alive; unsaved friends and relatives.

We can miss those who've passed on. We can voice our feelings to them, forgive them for hurting us; or us hurting them. They're not going to hear us.

I know that confusion is of the devil. And I have been feeling somewhat confused since I started attending a Pentecostal of oneness Jesus only church. I am a Trinitarian who didn't have a problem with my doctrine but apparently they do. I believe in God the father from the Bible I believe in Jesus Christ from the Bible I believe in the Holy Spirit from the Bible I believe that Jesus was with God in the beginning created all things I'm not positive whether Jesus Christ is God and is the Holy Spirit. That's why my questions sound crazy. Why would God do that to us? Why wouldn't he just be Jesus from the start if there were no others?