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Brother Chris,

Thanks for your response. I find baptism so easy to understand and I will break down this scripture the way I understand it.

John 3:3-7

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Jesus is talking specifically about being "born again" This is our 2nd birth.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Nicodemus is confused, he does not understand "born again".

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Jesus confirms to be "born again" we must be "born of water and Spirit". He emphasizes "born of water and the spirit". "If Jesus was referring to the fetus (water bag) or anything with our original birth - he would not have included the word "water" as we all were born as a fetus in our original birth, and the "water" would be a moot point!

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Jesus showed us by being baptized himself what born again looks like and the meaning of "Spirit is spirit" as upon being baptized the Holy Spirit came down from heaven and landed on Jesus for "all to see". Very powerful and a perfect example for us to follow!

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Born again, easy to understand! Something so easy for christians to follow, I just don't understand the reluctance.

God Bless.

yes I have several ,My go to Bible is a KJV Study Bible,

Good day frens ,.. an truth seekers ,. We find in the book of James ,.. we are taught that if ANYONE lack knowledge, let them ask !!! An it shall be given !!! I most certainly have, an often amazed at how quickly I have got the understanding,.. where no one flesh, will ever be of total knowledge of all while we wait for our savior,.. an we all can be of a great tool to each other as we do our best to share an gain knowledge

Peace

Please pray for my fiance & myself whom I have just submitted a pitition, for him to be able to join me here in the US... Back in my country, we were condemned & persecuted because divorce is not recognized. Therefore since my ex, whom i have divorced here in the US because of adultery, (he cheated on me & bore 2 children already with a woman) is still alive, i cannot remarry.

We were years apart but we know that in LOVE, age doesn't really matter. He is the YOUTH PASTOR in our church and a leader of the PRAISE & WORSHIP TEAM.. i am a retiree and he is in his late 20's.. When i divorced my ex, I prayed so hard and asked GOD to give me somebody (if HE will still give me somebody to be with me in my late days) who is HIS servant, who fear HIM and who will love me for who I am.. After 6 long years, I found that man... GOD IS SOOO GOOD that HE give me more.. He gives me a young and handsome guy... who is very talented..

GOD BLESS EVERYONE & THANK YOU SO MUCH...

Hi Gloria Being Gods word is an eastern book and the men were head of the House in eastern culture the only

mention in Mathew is Mary being the Mother of Jesus, that is in itself is a miracle because she literally was a teenager

and when the angel appeared and it says she was troubled but not fearful it was more like whats going on but the

words out of Gabriel mouth Fear Not so she focused and said be it unto me according to thy word. That is a great

woman of God.

The other use of trouble is in Luke 4:12 when Zachariah saw the angel and the same word trouble

means terror or fear and the end result of that was because he did not Believe Gods Word verse 20 He was shut up

so to speak until the Child had to be named Luke1:60-66 and in eastern culture the Child is named by the Father. That

blew the minds of the extended family that he was not named after anyone in the family, but also he couldn't speak

until the child was named. God always covers unbelief when needed. Thank God He cover ours in Christ.

The week has seven days, only because there is a Creator thar ordered Adam and Eve to rest on the seveth day, called the Sabath. When the time of prophecy came, Jesus was born from the flesh, through God's sprit, acording to The Holy Scriptures. Jonh starts the first chapter, witha tremendous declaration about Jesus, being The Word and God! Isaiascalls Emmanuel to the Messiah, wich means God amongst us! Jesus presents Himself ONE with God the Father, and as Being The Light of the all World. The Word of God points Sion as God's Inhabitation on the northern side of the Universe. Job didn't answer to God's question about the magnetic North and the Light's source and how does the Light propagates through the entire Universe.

ezequiel describes the Temple of God and a river that comes out of The Temple. God is the source of The All Power, Light, the magnetic North and All the other forces of the cosmos, as gravity wich operates under strict mathematic laws known by the Astrophisicists, who through astronomic observatories, mesured the length of Light waves and recognised Light's relevance to understand time and space. God is THe Spirit, as the bible aknowledges! Therefore God isn't subjected to the Laws He made for His free wil living creatures. The character of God is Love! Love comprehends Mercy and Justice! Jesus was baptised to acomplish all the Justice, as He answered Jonh Baptist. Jesus has Two natures Divine+Human! Satan's rebellion could have succeded, if Jesus didn't acomplish all Justice of the Law. On Mathew 37, Jesus declares ten commandements's Law, eternal as everything done or written by God. If not so, why did Jesus died for? says Paul, appointed by Jesus to be Jesu's apostle to the gentiles, whom we are part of also.The Ten commandements was the Law broken by Adam and Eve, putting satan's lie, above TRUTH WHO IS GOD! These is consacrated by God's Hand Writting, on the first four commandements of the Law. Jesus's good works are for walk on them.

Lamar Ephesians 6:1-4 notice carefully to bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. The idea

being if your children that know you love them when raised correctly aren't listening or obeying you that they can

physically see and hear and respect how will they be able to listen what they can't physically see or most times hear.

Therefore first part obey respect Parents in the Lord. Prayerfully this Helps.

John 10:12-18, Romans 14:4,

I believe that Isaiah 4:1 is literal. Homeless, drug/alcohol addicted, sexually abused, and mentally disabled women are some of the most vulnerable and rejected human beings on the planet. They actually don't want to be married, but that's because of past bad marriages, and the realization that nobody cares about them anymore. Seven to one is accurate, esp during the pandemic. I love seven women, but only a couple are worth marrying.

Chris I apologize one other point in the Gospel of luke 24:49 the command wa to go to jerusalem until

ye be endued that word is [enduo which means to go in, and clothed with] indicating inside job complete'

this is the only place in scripture it is used with this meaning interesting isn't it. God Bless

Romans 8:8, Luke 1:37, Mark 10:27,

Romans 8:1-16, *

Thank you King of kings

I believe The HOLY Spirit revealed this to me: it was Jesus that suffered violence & was taken force. Matthew 11:12, Matthew 10:5-8,

Hebrews 13:12, Acts 17:3,

Matthew 26:53-68, Matthew 27:1-54,

Psalms 22,

please remember myself and my daughters and there families today in your prayers please remember Kristie, remember Gary and please pray for my lost co workers

The book of Isiah is excellent for us to gain understanding of this present time.

I am delighted to read few chapters daily.

Thank you

Chris This answer is not complicated, after Acts water baptism a you said is barely mentioned and for the

part not at all in later Epistles. Also What I read and from a personal experience and from other comments on

where people knew people or were themselves born again spiritually then got baptized in water. From what I

understand it was the entrance John the baptist being the precursor to the end desire of God to Have Spiritual

children Born again of His spirit. So I see the age of Grace where if I'm sharing the gospel and the person says

I'll believe if I sit in my garden and pray then I'll walk with them to the garden. I believe it is inspired action to

achieve the spiritual Goal. So if some one says I want to be water baptized and I'll believe let pray and Go for it.

It remind me in the Gospels where someone said to Jesus Christ help thou mine unbelief, so whatever it takes as

as long as it not some wacked out physical task or bowing down to anyone Except God and His Christ.

Just my heart on the subject P.S. Reminds me of Paul

saying become all things to all men that we might win some! God Bless

Comparison Note:

Isaiah 42:3, Matthew 12:17-23

Isaiah 42:5, to John 1:1,

Hopefully this helps you in your understanding.

Where in the Bible is The genealogy Mary, Jesus' mother?

Luke 21:1-4, Mark 12:38-44,

Hopefully these scriptures are helpful:

Mark 9:14-29, Matthew 17:14-21, James 5:16, Psalms 102:17, Romans 10:16-17,

Proverbs 24:16, Matthew 24:24

A few more scriptures come to mind for what you described I hope these are helpful. Jude 1:21-25, Jude 1, 1 John 1:10, Psalms 51:10,

No , we have no idea about any of that as it's not in the Bible .

I pray for my friend I asked you protect and keep I ask oh Lord that your loving g hand of mercy protect my love one, in her weakness and sickness you oh Lord give her strength, that she oh Lord Jesus realize that she have a anointing to be used for your glory & purpose, in Jesus Christ Who died and was resurrected and all power in Heaven, Earth, and beneath the Earth. Amen

I fully agree GiGi. Sisters in the NT Church then, as they do now, play an extremely vital role in Church life - they certainly filled the 'deaconess' role, without officially being named as such. But then, what's in a name?

Bro. Rick. You asked, "The real question is what's changed or why?"

I don't believe anything has changed from the command by the Lord to go into the World, teach all nations & baptize them in the Trinity, to when the Holy Spirit fell upon those apostles (i.e. baptized directly from God), to when the apostles carried out that command to teach & then baptize those who believed. To make water baptism a necessary part of salvation's Gift, rather than an act of identification with that Gift, in my mind is untenable. Water baptism & reception of the Spirit at conversion, go hand in hand - i.e. if you believe you were baptized, no arguments could be presented. Could any of that great gathering ( Acts 2:41) have objected to being baptized & not face the surprise & consternation of Peter? The multiitude knew both the great worth of their salvation & the great cost of being identified with Christ, breaking away from their religion/idols. Today, we really have no sense of it, except those expressing faith through baptism in Hindu/Muslim regions.

But a question rarely asked, if at all: were the 12 apostles (except Paul) baptized in water after they were saved at Pentecost? Most believers would unflinchingly say, Yes. But have any of the apostles ever spoken of their baptism in their letters or seen in the Book of Acts? There seems to be a precedent for those who may not have received the Gospel by conventional means (i.e. receiving it directly by the Spirit). There will also be situations where a person is desperately ill or incapable of being water baptized (except by sprinkling). Also, when those who want to be baptized & there was none to do it, & much time has since passed by making the command inappropriate for its meaning. I see occasions that not being baptized is valid.

Is Water Baptism no longer valid because of the Spirit's baptism? I see no where in Scripture to invalidate it, but I see exceptions to the rule (given above) & its performance by the Church today.

Hi christine If its important enough God will tell you if its necessary spiritually for your life, ask and ye shall

receive. Things pf the spirit are a need to know bases for your personal walk, so if you need to know he will tell

you.

Hi Christine. I hope you can get other viewpoints & guidance on this matter, especially from a sister who may be able to give you better help based on feminine senses.

The Bible doesn't afford much help specific to your case as the setting there is of eastern thought & culture; where girls married according to the dictates of their parents; the girls were taught to be fully subservient to their husbands; to bear children & keep the home; and as far as believers were concerned, that deep relationships (whether in marriage, business, etc.) should only be with fellow believers ( 2 Corinthians 6:14). Now, how the Church ascertained whether the eligible young man or woman were suitable, would probably be by having conversations between them/their parents, their Christian walk & witness & ability to provide for their needs. No doubt, with the very few believers in the early Church, I would think that one wouldn't have many choices amongst marriagable folk, so committing the matter to the Lord would have also been very important - but unfortunately, the Bible doesn't go into any detail about this, rather about holding the marriage together.

My advice is to keep this matter in prayer to the Lord & really listen out for His Voice to your heart & not be led by what you feel is the best. Sometimes, our desires can be overpowering making the 'voice' in your heart become the 'Voice of God'. In addition, if you are acquainted with your male friend's family or friends, you can 'sound them out' discreetly to learn where this man is really at, not only spiritually, but emotionally, mentally, & a heart for the unsaved & underprivileged. Unfortunately, so many Christian marriages dissolve for various reasons though not for want of trying to rescue them - if you truly sense that all the 'feelers' you put out to the Lord & others, give you assurance, then you may want to take the friendship to the next level. And remember, he is probably considering you too with a prayerful heart.

Ok David, I'll look it up. If you find something, please let me know. Thanks Sounds fascinating.

Hi,

I am not sure what you are really asking here. Can you rephrase your question to us, please?

God Bless

Ricardo,

The Holy Spirit was active in humanity since the beginning. He rested upon prophets as they were set out on their ministry by God. John was a special case. He received the anointing presence of the Holy spirit from the time he was conceived. He was chosen to be the forerunner to the Messiah, Jesus) as prophesied . God chose to endue John with the Holy Spirit from the womb for him to carry out that which he was created to do-to be the first prophet in Israel in over 500 years to announce the arrival of the prophesied Messiah. Can you imagine what he was like growing up? With Elizabeth and Zachariah as his parents? Though sinful as all of us are, he must have been a good kid overall, having the Holy Spirit guiding, sanctifying, and empowering as the Spirit does for us. But he was an exception in his day, so he must have stood out among is peers. maybe that is why he lived in the desert-didn't fit in much with the world!