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Some posit that he, like Elijah was translated, like those who will be alive when Jesus returns. Our bodies will be changed from a corruptible body to and incorruptible one when they leave earth. That is what people think happened to Enoch and Elijah (Possibly Moses, since there was an argument between God and Satan over his body and He appeared with Elijah and Jesus at the Transfiguration.)

Dgjot, Paul spoke about this extensively in Galatians and elsewhere. At the council of Jerusalem that Paul attended with James, John, and Peter, the decision was made tat Gentiles do not need to be circumcised to be saved. Paul said that it does not matter if one is or not. With that said, I don't really think that it was customary in the early centuries for gentile males to be circumcised. Whenever it came into practice in the Gentile world it had become custom. It has no spiritual significance. But it seemed to be recommended for sanitary purposes in less sanitary times than today. It would be easy for a male to get infections between the foreskin and shaft without good hygiene. In more modern times, I think most people had their male infants circumcised so they would resemble their fathers and other males they may view. That was our reason for circumcising our three sons. I know of people who didn't without any problems and some who did have problems with infection. It is a personal choice parents can make for their infant, but it may not be covered by insurance.

I suppose you could google the history of it and find out more. I just haven't felt a reason to do so, but you may find information that answers your question.

And we all can say a big Amen to that truth of Scripture!

Here's a good testimony, but it isn't mine. I just talked to my friend of 4 decades and she relayed to me that they missed a turn on the road and went airborne 7 feet in the are for 20 feet or so, landed right side up without rolling, and skid to a stop after about 100 feet. Walked away wit just a few bruises and sore muscles. The car was towed and is driveable. What a wonderful miracle! I guess God sent those "eagles wings" to guide their car to a safe stop. I am so happy. I could have lost these dear friends. So I am very thankful today!

This was the top of the list for God's commandments on how we treat others (the first ones being how we treat Him).

There is probably lots of information on this if you google the question, I recommend trying that.

From what I can remember from my instruction on the commandments, this one means to respect and obey your parents as a child and youth. As an adult it means to respect and not neglect your parents. You are to be careful to have the best relationship you can with them as long as they live. It means to take care of them and their needs when they cannot. It means to be hospitable to them when they visit you or need to stay with you. When it says that their days may be long in the land that God gives them, I believe it is specifically talking about the Israelites entering the promised land, either the days of the parents or the days of the days of the one the command is given to.

In today's times, this phrase can mean that there is a blessing to parents and our selves when we obey this command.

Dear Csaaphill,

I will agree with you in prayer.

Lord Jesus, I ask that you will increase and strengthen Csaapill's faith from this moment on. Keep Csaaphill steadfast in faith and in walking with you. Lord, Help Csaapill understand and manage anger. Keep Csaaphill from sinning in anger.

Lord, I also ask that you will Csaaphill from turning back to the world's ways, since his/her desire is to stay in your way.

Lord, these are all things within your will, so we can be assured that you will answer in the best ways because you can do all things that are good and right and just. We pray in your name, Lord Jesus, Amen

Gigi Yes have to look through some stuff, you may find it Historically on a site that shows scripturally

Gods original design of the Temple in Jerusalem. I'm still going to look it up again, its really remarkable since

everything in the structure and design pointed to the Messiah. Which is why in Hebrews so much is explained

about the design and build and law and sacrifices and what they pointed to.

Hi Cassidy, I think that this lie of Satan was the first lie told to humanity. But we do not know if Satan lied to the other angels to convince them to rebel with him in heaven.

I believe that women were deaconesses, but I do not know the verses that speak to this. These women helped to take care of widows, orphans, teach younger women, and other works of service in the church. I believe they were appointed and so served in an official position, but not one over men.

Hi David,

I am interested in what you said about the temple having sections named the way, the truth and the life. Can you give me a website where I can learn more about this?

thank you.

Hi ChrisE Gods Word sums it up well either we do the whole law or walk in the spiritual grace In the

Most of us are doing a blend, bit its till grace that we can do at all because we were all born dead in trespasses

and sin withour God and without Hope. God bless Later.

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God."

Philippians 4:6

Humans were given Dominion in Genesis by God.

Only Bible readers would know that. Jesus defeated Satan by being crucified and then Resurrected. Christians have the same AUTHORITY to defeat Satan's strategies against us. It's done in prayer on our knees.

Most people just want to come home and watch tv or play online games.

Bad things happen to good people/Christians because we don't want to do the hard stuff that produces salvations, healings, deliverance from Satan's attacks. We don't need to be blaming God for our inability to follow the example of Jesus.

What would happen if we walked out on the back porch and yelled out loud: in Jesus Name, by His power and Authority, I take Dominion over every demonic strategy to hurt me and my family and loved ones. I bind your evil plans and cast you OUT OF THIS HOUSE

OUT OF MY FAMILY

OUT OF MY WORK PLACE

OUT OF MY CITY

OUT OF MY GOVERNMENT

GO NOW INTO OUTER DARKNESS TO WANDER ENDLESSLY

IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN

I ask the Lord, to release warring angels to enforce and protect this prayer; minister to and guard those this prayer covers. Cover me and favor my family, Lord Jesus,

I give you thanksgiving, my praise to you, worship and honor. Impart to me discernment so I may stand in the watchtower and be vigilant against Satan's attacks. I rebuke the Spirit of Slumber! Holy Spirit teach me how I should pray for all my concerns. I receive it, in the Name of Jesus. AMEN! HALLELUJAH

Thank you Alex, I have been praying for wisdom and discernment on the Sabbath and water baptism. I agree with you and God Bless you.

My good friend Carman died almost a year ago. Miss him huge.

Go on YouTube and listen to his songs

Revival in the Land 6mins39seconds

Also a song that was recorded in our church=



I got the Joy, by Carman

This is what Church should look like half the time on Sunday. It's so powerful to Just PRAISE THE LORD.

Guys get happy. We win with Jesus! We'll be riding alongside of him!!

Antichrist will be dispatched. YAY

We can't allow all this covid stuff and crooked politicians get us down.

I know that in heaven we're all going to dance. No bones! Everyone full of joy.

Adam I believe and know both scriptures well. God bless onro have a great evening moving on to the Return.

You don't need a song. When you see those bones in your spirit

When you speak out in the power of the Holy Spirit inside of you

In the NAME of Jesus and by the Power of His Authority, I Prophesy upon these bones.

THUS SAITH the Lord, Dry Bones In The United States (or other nation names)

Pray the verses 1-14, Chapter 37

[if people live with you then go out to the car and pray loud]. Satan and principalities over those nations have to obey. You strap on Ephesians 6 and allow your faith to cross oceans and continents.]

We are deputized by Jesus! Command the Evil to leave and go into outer darkness and wander endlessly until hell receives them.

Ask your Father, God, to release millions of angels into those countries to surround the new believers in Jesus Christ.

As His children, we can do this. We are not helpless. The Holy Spirit helped to create all we know about.

Know what? Go on YouTube and type in,

Carman Revival In The Land. Choose the video that is 6 mins and 39 secs, it's more red than the other video.

Carman died last year. He's with his Lord. He's not a faker. I knew him well. He spent his whole life in ministry. We went to the same church in Tulsa. If you had been in that room when everybody leaped out of their seats and were DANCING, you'd do it too.

I was delivered from the occult (astrology) and Satan is cruel. He hates everyone. He kills his servants.

Get strong and believe you are sent to nations through prayer. Just believe the WORD.

I cry buckets watching this video. We are the BODY of Jesus Christ. WE WIN, mishael

Gigi You state to show forth all scripture what about Ephesians 4:4-6 this is just showing scripture, also Paul

wrote receive ye the spirit by the works of the Law or Hearing of faith Romans 10:9+10. That being said on to



the next subject. By the way you yourself said you know of many people never water baptised but you Know are

saved. God Bless and good Night.

Stick with the bible and don't get caught up worrying about who, what, when , and why. especially the color of skin. The bible says to avoid discussions about genealogy. ( Titus 3:9). It also says to let God be true and every man a liar; ( Romans 3:4.) Keep your focus on the scriptures and what it teaches and nothing else. If you don't, you'll be drawn into discussions that are meaningless and have nothing to do with salvation or what's important to God.

Adam I am not changing anything I only looked up what the original language stated, not diluting or

adding, that being said again its up to the individual to work the word and believe as an individual that's

all. Moving on bro. Besides the end Goal I each one win one!

Chris The real question is what's changed or why?

Gigi This is really quite simple believing is required no matter what biblically Paul even explained it in the Grace administration to which we live also it is shown in Luke 3:16 the contrast the first under the law of Johns Ministry

led to the second one the day of Pentecost after Jesus Christ completed His Ministry and made it available to

born again of Holy Spirit By God gift made available by His Son Romans 10: 9+10. Basically if someone wants to

believe it takes both so be it, myself and many many others I know were never water baptized and received so

who am I to argue with Gods Grace. That's why I've never seen just water baptism do it but I have seen both or

just Confession of sin and Romans 10:9+10. I'm just sharing believe what you will but we operate in the grace

administration and that's is the walk in Love above the Law which is what Christ redeemed us from. Moving on!

Kristina, We on this forum went deep into tis topic a few weeks ago. Perhaps you can go to the Discussion Topics page and look under "baptism" to find our recent discussion. Blessings to you.

Thank you Bro Dan. I don't think any of us who think this way are wanting to simply encourage someone to go through a ritual or be baptized "just in case". We just truly want to show forth the teaching of Scripture and encourage others to consider the command of Christ. If one can ignore this command, can we ignore His command to "love one another?"

To me, the fact that Jesus was baptized tells us a lot. I don't remember reading in the OT Law where baptism in water was proscribed. If someone can find it, that would help me. I kind of think it may have been a teaching of the Talmud.

But if it is in the OT Law, then Jesus did it to fulfill the Law. Also, since He never did anything without direction from the Father, He did it to obey the Father, who then spoke audibly afterwards as the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus, saying He was well-pleased. And thirdly, Jesus never did anything that was not purposeful to set an example or to highlight a teaching of His. So, here Jesus submitted to baptism as an example for us to submit to God and His will and to emphasize His teachings commanding His disciples to baptize new believers in water, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirt, showing us that all three persons of the Trinity are present at a person's water baptism. Jesus wasn't surprised that the Father and Spirit showed up so humans could witness. He knew this would happen so it can be shown what happens in water baptism and show the approval of the Trinity to the obedient action.

If someone continues to hold to not being baptized in water, my question is really, what is the real reason for you to not obey Jesus' command? Is it a out of rejection of "ritual" or that one does not find it necessary since one already is saved? Jesus instituted several rituals and he demonstrated them to instruct us: water baptism, praying to the Father (The Lord's Prayer), and The Lord's Supper. Should we not do these. New believers were baptized, why not old ones?

Please pray for my mom Lorraine's salvation and pray for her healing. She lost her hearing, has memory loss, bad posture, body pain, and high blood pressure. Pray for excellent health. Pray for a long life for Lorraine.Pray for the removal of debt and financial blessings and financial security for Lorraine. Pray Lorraine's possessions last a hundred times longer and will supernaturally become newer and repaired. Also, please pray for salvation and excellent health and long life for my uncle Seve,aunt Jackie and healing and long life for my mom's boyfriend Joe who has cancer.. In the name of Jesus Yeshua Hamashiach Amen

Hi Rick,

I don't believe that the Greek word for baptize was supposed to mean something else, so someone can feel off the hook from being baptized. I don't believe that just because someone found another Greek word they prefer that people are somehow free of Jesus's commands to be baptized. Jesus talked about water baptism, baptized people, and His disciples were then called to baptize in water to fulfill the command. It says it plenty of times in the Bible.

The Bible says to repent and confess:

"I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance" Luke 5:32

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

When God says something and man says something different, I believe God's Word over man's word. The gospel isn't complicated and doesn't take Greek or Hebrew scholars to understand but a desire to seek and follow God. I've noticed on many occasions when someone finds something they aren't comfortable with in the Bible, they go to the Hebrew/Greek and try to make it mean something other than what it means. But its already translated and already means what it says.

God bless...

Bro. Dan. If I might clarify according to my reading of that passage in John chapter 3. The point of this discussion between Nicodemus & Jesus was for clarification of Nicodemus' misunderstanding of 'being born again'. So Jesus explains to him that just as a human has to be born into the world (which is what Nicodemus could only grasp), so, to enter God's Kingdom, a human has to also be born (i.e. re-born) spiritually, as it's not possible for natural unrevived man to enter that Kingdom.

Jesus then goes on to refer in verse 6: "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." I see the strong connection here between what Jesus said earlier about being born "of water & of the Spirit": to be born of water (flesh) remains only flesh; but to be born of the Spirit is no longer life in the flesh, but now in the Spirit. So, we can either be governed by our flesh (the natural man, serving our desires), or by the Spirit (the renewed, revived spiritual man, serving God).

I realize there can be other views on this, but I certainly don't believe that Jesus was speaking of water baptism when He spoke of being "born of water" since water baptism never affords such Grace to contribute to a new birth. If it did, then we enter into a further difficulty that re-birth is not only of God, but also of man's contribution to it. The only requirement is to believe & receive Christ, God's Gift, or else it's no longer a Gift. Water baptism has always been a normal logical act of identification with Jesus soon after believing & receiving the Holy Spirit. And being obedient to be baptized ought to be the responsibility of the evangelist/witnessor & not of the new believer. But all that's changed now, as so much else in the Church.

Bro Dan Jesus Christ was water baptized to fulfill all righteousness under the law which is why after he healed

many people he told them to present themselves in the temple and offer the offering in the old testament example

Luke 5:12-14, Mathew 8:1-4 Mark 1:40-41, luke 17:12-16 under the law of moses because their backgrounds were

Judean. When he healed Gentiles he never made that a point to say go to temple or see priest , the centurions servants

son is a perfect example he the centurion said you say it I believe it!. The condition was always believing because if

you don't believe you can't receive.

Well said, Adam, I agree. Baptism in water is commanded by Jesus. That is enough for me, who claims to believe in Him to believe Him when he says to be water baptized. Like Rick, I have known many people who have been believers for a long time and never were water baptized. I don't know how to explain that from a Scriptural standpoint, since I know of no Scripture that says not to be baptized in water, nor that that this act of faith is superseded by grace. But many differ from us. I can live with that, since I myself, obeyed Christ's command.

Brother I appreciate your honesty about being born again spiritually without being baptized in water which

show God Grace in our day and time and actually always because God always honors His Word and our Hearts

if we are doing our best for His Highest. To me if you changed your mind and felt the needs for water baptism

good for you but that neither added or took away from what you or I were given spiritually. I had a friend that

received the Gift of Holy spirit on His pier and when father showed me that it was where he was most peaceful

then we prayed and he received. Later on a couple of days he ask if He needs to be water baptized, I asked

would you feel better answer was yes so he did it and felt better. The interesting point for Him his words The first

one I felt a lot more all over inside, I said O.K. So I just do My best to let God do the Work and listen not Judge

besides I have no time for the second one its not my job. L.O.L.

Hi Mark The context is steadfastness in believing the greek word is pistis which fits with what being taught.

Look at verse 17+18 for the example of of Elisha or elijah not sure which one who prayed diligently for 3.5

years and believed not only for it not to rain but after wiping out the idolatry prayed and believed again for

it to rain. One Heck of an example to follow.