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Oh dear Georganna.

I am so sorry that you are having such troubles that are causing you to think that believing and praying to God is futile for you. I will be praying for you.

I would like to share one Scripture that the Holy Spirit "shouted" into my heart when I was burdened down with many griefs and thought about "throwing in the towel."

John 6:66-68

From that time many of His disciples went back and walked with Him no more. Then Jesus said to the twelve, "Do you also want to go away?"

But Simon Peter answered Him, "Lord, to whom shall we go" You have the words of eternal life. Also we have come to believe and know that you are the Christ, the Son of the Living God."

So, when I was at my low point and exhausted from my struggles, the Spirit spoke to me what Peter said to Jesus.

I hope that the you will come to what I realized in that moment, that the only sure hope anyone has in this life is Jesus. No matter what happens to me, Jesus is my secure prize. This life isn't all there is, eternity awaits me and all will be made right and I will understand the purpose for all my troubles. For now, I will just walk each day in Jesus shadow, holding on to His garment with faith that nothing is impossible for Him to do for me and those I love.

I hope this encourages you.

Dear Lord Jesus,

Send you comfort and peace to Georganna as she cries out to you for help. You say you draw near to the brokenhearted. Let her know you are so very near to her. Lord, I pray that YOU will solve her problems since they are too big for her to do what needs to be done. Fill her with Your hope and assurance of Your love and moment by moment care. Send help right away, Lord and defeat that which is overwhelming her today. I ask this in faith in You, Jesus, in Your precious, holy name. Amen

Hi Brother Jesse.

I've heard a lesson once before on Mathew 4:1-10. Where the word tempted/tested can be used as to prove something, Not meaning to see if he can withstand the devil but to show that he could. Similar to the word used in

Luke 14:19. And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to "PROVE" them: I pray thee have me excused.

Even though a different Greek word.

What do you think?

I value your take.

God bless.

Hi Georganna Just out of curiosity has anyone ever shared about what we have been given Christ jesus

and whats been made available to us?

Hi Janice Gave you some good info but never answered your question so I apologize and that's my

second mistake today oops.

Hi Janice My addition to what has been shared the enemy always works where your weakest spiritually

but like whats been shared He wanted Jesus Christ weakest physically also he thought he would break down easier.

I am also reminding myself of Mark 9 rely not on your own understanding but some of these issues have just lasted so long sorta like Sarah becoming pregnant. I am empty and tired and without hope. One battle after another and this month 5 or more altogether? I quit

My prayers aren't strong enough or loud enough (I don't know something) John Hagee even said the prayers of a fool don't go higher than the ceiling

Thank you very much.

Hi Janice.

just to add to what great reply Brother Jesse gave, I think it's worth mentioning in verse 1 it says he was led into the wilderness by the Spirit to be tested.

Matthew 4:1-3.

God bless.

Thank you very much.

Gigi I think when writing the epistles he only mentions as much of His past as was necessary to promote

the gospel, I.E. giving His credentials according to the flesh under the law Philippians 3:1-15 and in Galatians

all of Chapter one because of how many believers were walking away from what he taught.

Jesse My understanding of this is that according to pharisiticall law you had to be married and think have had

a child. Got to look onto that one again, by the way Hi.

Brother Jesse. I have heard of this too: that Paul was a married man before his conversion & call. Not from historical records, but appealing to the nature of the position of the Pharisee. Paul spoke of himself as once being "a Hebrew of the Hebrews" ( Philippians 3:5) & 'extremely zealous of his ancestral traditions' ( Galatians 1:14; Acts 22:3). Marriage was the norm for Pharisees & it was also required to hold a rabbinical position. The thought is: "Paul could hardly have set himself forth as an exemplar of Pharisaical piety had he not been married."

So, indeed, Paul did "count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ" ( Philippians 3:8). Obviously, he was referring to the wealth of knowledge & interpretation of the Scriptures that had to be cast aside so that Christ might be fully apprehended, but I wonder whether he included, in his 'new' single state, that this had to be his lot for the furtherance of this newly acquired powerful Gospel that he had received & which filled him?

No I have not. He never mentions any children of is own. If he was married, perhaps his wife died or left him when he became a believer?

Sorry, this was supposed to be a correction of my first post:

"He (Paul) mentions that (He wished) all would be like him, single!"

I'm losing my marbles!

He (Paul) mentions that (He wished) all would be like him, single!

Janice,

My understanding is that the tempter (Satan) in Matthew chapter 4, he came after the 40 days because he knew Jesus was going to be hungry after fasting for 40 days. So the tempter came and appealed to the flesh and was trying to get Jesus to misuse His authority. Remember, he says you are hungry, right? Well, turn these stones into bread.

This was the first of three temptation. The first temptation was lust of the flesh. I wouldn't even call it lust. I mean when you are hungry, that is a little different than lust, but that is what the word lust means. It means to place your desire upon something, to satisfy your physical desires. That is the lust or desire of the flesh. And that's what the tempter was doing, appealing to the flesh.

The second temptation, in Matthew 4:5-7 is the pride of life. "Hey, you know the Jews are expecting their messiah to come down from heaven. Why don't you make a grand entrance?" Sensationalism! "Jump down and let them see you drop 450 feet, land on your feet, and say the Messiah is here!"

And thirdly in Matthew 4:8-10, we have the lust of the eyes. Satan took Him up on a high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. It must have looked good! Satan tried to tempt Him that way.

Possibly because it would be a moment of extreme weakness. Matthew 4:2, Luke 4:2, Hebrews 4:15,

John 10:10,

This was also a moment of Prophetic fulfillment. Luke 4:4, Deuteronomy 8:3, John 6:58,

Deuteronomy 6:16, Matthew 4:7, Luke 4:12, Luke 4:10-11, Psalms 91:12, Matthew 4:6,

Exodus 34:28,

Matthew 4:1-11, Luke 4:1-21, 22-44,

Hopefully that helps

Hello GiGi,

This has for sure been an interesting thread on marriage and divorce. I do agree with you that Paul being single allowed him to completely focus on what the Lord would have him to do without distraction. He mentions that all would be like him, single ( 1 Corinthians 7:7). But I believe that Paul was at one time married before his conversion and then divorced at the time he wrote 1 Corinthians. There is evidence that causes me to believe he was married at one time. Have you ever heard this before?

Hi Jerimiah God has made a lot of things available to man but you still have to believe to receive. When

Jesus Christ was ministering when he went into His Home town of nazareth of galilee Mathew 13:53-58 he

could not due many mighty works because of their unbelief! All thing of God are given upon man first

believing to receive i.e. confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe in thine Heart action mouth then inner most part

and then God can work.

David,

How are you and Kristie doing?

If we're just going by what is written in this Biblical translation, it appears the chronological order is Daniel 1 being account of capture & being taught in the ways of the "Chaldeans". I likewise was studying Daniel recently & found interesting how the books are like that.

Daniel 1:1, Daniel 2:1, dates of significant recognition. 2 Kings 24:1-2,

Historical insight 2 Kings 24:3-16, this appears to be the time that brought Daniel & his friends into that place of capacity. Note they left the poor in the land 2 Kings 24:14,17,18 which may explain the historical reference mentioned by other comment. 2 Kings 25:8-12,

Stated 19th year of Nebuchadnezzar._._.

Please note Daniel 4:6-9,18, Nebuchadnezzar acknowledged Daniel as "knowing the spirit of the holy" GOD was in him, therefore it shows Chpt 4 being after the first interpretation. Daniel 4:29, Daniel 4:23,

Daniel 5:11, Daniel 5:20-22, Daniel 5:31, Daniel 6:28,

Please note Daniel 7:1 it goes back to time of Daniel 5. Daniel 4, to Daniel 2, In some ways, not in the same vision but the statement in Daniel 2:47, So consistantly Daniel jumps back into moments within previous Chapters to add additional situations within those time frames

Daniel 1:20, chapter 2, could also explain this statement of why Daniel 1:20, states that.

Notice also in Daniel 5:10-14,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study

Hi Janice Everything in Gods Word has significance there fore the number 40 represents a period of trial

chastisement purification and renewal of life I.E. Jesus Christ 40 day and nights wilderness

children of Israel 40 years in wilderness of sin 40 days between resurrection and ascension

of Jesus Christ,40 days 40 days and nights flood of noah, Moses was 40 years in Egypt

this number is mentioned 157 times in the bible and is a fun study in and of Itself.

Hi Chris,

One thing, I know that thinking that divorced people are to remain single is sad to think about in some ways, but it is also sad to think about single people who have never married and really want to be married. I have a brother wo is my age who as never married. He probably once wanted to find someone to love all his life, but didn't find that one person. I have another brother who is divorced and has been single for over 20 years now. Being single in either situation is not a bad thing. God can use people in this situation and fulfill them as well. It is not any more burdensome for divorced people to remain single as it is for someone who never married as far as singleness goes. (If children were born of the marriage, that is its own heartache). God is able to be with single adults in wonderful ways just as with married adults.

Being single allowed Paul to fulfill his call to bring the to so many different parts of the known world at that time. If he was married, he would be divided between his obligation to his family and is obligation to is calling.

Please agree with me in prayer regarding the high winds facing us this evening in Lodi, Wisconsin (Harmony Grove) ...

No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

Thank you.

Another very important thing is dont watch the news anymore or any "truther" stuff or "exposed" videos.

These material is created to make people mad and angry !

There is a thing going on they call it "great awakening" the people are beeing awakend against the evil system,

but its a trap I believe. Who will the world redeem out of such a mess..? maybe the antichrist the false saviour.

I had the same anger like you and was focused on all that evil thats going on..

but dont let the devil deceive you he draws you away from the Lord Jesus and wants

to steal your peace. Satan is now the king of this world but dont forget that GOD is in full controll.

He will manage it, this things must happen dont forget.

You dont need to know all that evil stuff, the Lord takes care of it for you !

I pray something like this: Lord Jesus please take care of all my troubles and my angers and please help

against this evil. When you believe your anger will be gone !

Spencer,

Yes, I do agree that some things are really in God's hands. I don't talk to those who are divorced and remarried about this because I am not their judge and I think that it is the pastors/leaders responsibility to teach on this from Scripture, not me. Yet, most pastors avoid teaching on it, so congregants must go to Scripture to learn what Scripture says.

I predict that pretty soon, churches will no longer support the idea that sex outside of marriage is sinful (many already have). And then next, that homosexuality is sinful (Some already have). What is next after that? We are quickly sliding down the slipper slope in this generation.

I don't think we are dealing with habitual pride or hypocrisy here. Most of us want to have God's view on this subject.

But, yes, any habitual sin should be repented of and a person should allow the Holy Spirit to work that habit out of teir daily lives. That is what the Holy Spirit does in sanctifying us.

God Bless.

1 Peter 5:6-10

6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: 7Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. 8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 9Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world. 10But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you.

Dear sister, if you believed the gospel and put all your trust only in the Lord Jesus he will help you !

The true gospel is: that Christ died for our sins, was burried and rose again on the third day.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved !

Dear Grace,

I don't any of us said that such people in such a relationship cannot be forgiven. What we are saying is that the relationship will continue to be sinful as long as they are involved in it. The fact that we are forgiven for our daily sins does not make our sinful actions unsinful. I will own this idea. Scripture does teach us that we are not to be involved in ongoing sinful actions. No matter how many times we repeat a sin, it will never become good. Therefore, I believe that those divorced and remarried people who continue to be married and whose divorce does not fit under the exceptions Jesus stated are continuously living in sin, just like someone who have relations with their boyfriend or girlfriend before marriage. Just because they love each other does not make the relations unsinful they cease having relations when they are not yet married. (The church today even gives a pass at this type of relationship in many instances.) Like I said, many believers are ok with divorce and remarriage for any reason because it does not offend US. It used to, but so many have adopted the world's view instead of the view Jesus stated.

We can all confess and be forgiven of our daily sins, but I personally would find it hard to continue in a sexual relationship that Jesus has said is adulterous, even if I can confess and be forgiven each day.

As to people who were unbelievers when they divorced and remarried, or were unbelievers when they divorced and believers when they remarried, I really don't know what to think about that. In the early church, many believers were involved in polygamous relationships. I don't know what the church leadership taught these people to do, whether to remain polygamous or to select one wife to stay with and divorce the others.

So, as I have said, this is one subject that we deal with often in our society and fellowships. I don't know the absolutely correct answer or approach. That is why I value the opportunity this forum provides.

The bible said after Jesus had fast 40 days and 40 nights then came the tempter Why did the tempt come after the fast