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Carelton,

I pray that you will have a quick and sure recovery. I am not sure of what prophecy you are asking about. Please clarify. I am not one to speak a lot about interpreting prophetic fulfillment in history. I am open to earing people's ideas on this topic. Feel free to clarify more what you are wanting me to explain and I will be glad to respond.

Dear brother Earl,

I read your post and cannot agree with what you stated about our Lord, Jesus. I hold to the long held orthodox view that Jesus was wholly God and wholly man in united in one person. This is the understanding of His nature presented by the church in the first 3 centuries of existence as it addressed various other views about Jesus-Arianism, Nestorianism, and others (which we determined to be heretical).

I hold this view because I believe the Scriptures support this view over the other views people propose about our Lord. Thank you for sharing. We just disagree on this point, and I believe it is a very crucial point. This is why I speak up about it.

Brother Dee, does Jesus blood cover ALL MEN of just SOME MEN. Is it up to man to be saved or up to the saviour when they will be saved. There are ages to come after the age we are now in.

Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him, that the body of sin might be DESTROYED, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Every man born flesh and blood has to be destroyed.

We are all a son of perdition that has to be destroyed.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 Then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall DESTROY with the brightness of his coming ( Hebrews 9:28).

is this a catholic bible

Alex N Like I said you can't show what you stated line by line and word by word, you've made

my point

Hi GiGi, I had a bit of eye surgery so my thoughts are short for now as well as my reading abilities. Sometime I would like to read more of your thoughts regarding how much prophecy may already be fulfilled.

Thanks again.

Quadruple agreement my Precious brothers Chris, David, And Jesse!

God would NOT have us "go above 'That Which Is WRITTEN!'" 1Co 4:6 cp Psalms 138:2

Amen"?

References for 2nd Esdras 15:3

Precious friend, Gerry Shaver, I will pray for you; please Be Encouraged In The LORD JESUS CHRIST

2 Corinthians 12:9 God's Power Of ALL-Sufficient GRACE in our weaknesses and infirmities:

"PEACE With God," and knowing what good "tribulation worketh in us" Romans 5:1-5

"For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." Romans 8:18

The Spirit "helps our infirmities, And Prays For us" Romans 8:26

The Spirit "Intercedes For us, According To The Will Of God" Romans 8:27

God Makes "all things Work Together For Good," for HIS Own Romans 8:28

We are "Predestinated To Be Conformed To The Image Of God's SON" Romans 8:29

God Helps us "bear our testings" 1 Corinthians 10:13

We have The Wonderful "Comfort Of God!" 2 Corinthians 1:3-4

"For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a Far More Exceeding and Eternal Weight of Glory" 2 Corinthians 4:17

God will "change our vile body" to be "like HIS Glorious Body!" Philippians 3:21

Amen?

Conclusion:

"For our infirmities/sufferings"? Should we not "follow Paul our 'pattern'" 1 Ti 1:16?:

"And HE Said Unto me, My GRACE Is Sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that The Power of CHRIST may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for CHRIST's Sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong." 2 Corinthians 12:9-10

Amen? And Amen.

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?

God's 'Simple' Will: Link

Is it really sinful to work or do household chores on a Sunday?

Please pray with me

Please pray for Nathan

Please pray for Daniel

That God would please deliver them from drug addictions and send Jesus to break them out of their bondage and rescue them from the destroyer. That Jesus would restore them both to right thinking. Please Lord I thank You God because I believe that You will do this!

And also that I receive some wisdom and guidance from the Lord on health issues. Thank you God bless you all too you're all in my prayers

Jesse A statement was shared with me long ago that stuck, what you can know by the five senses God expects

you to know and that includes His revealed revelation of His Word because we can see that. So with me Gods Word is what separates truth in anything dealing with life and Godliness. Also you cannot know[Ginosko experienced knowledge]

if not born again 1 Corinthians 2:14. For now God Bless

Hi Mishael I'm don't understand something everybody keeps saying the scripture says but when it comes

to evil spirits it says devils not demons, then i'm gonna hear its all the same if that's true why doesn't it say demons?

I believe Judas will go to hell, because he betrayed Jesus to help murder him for profit. This is like blasphemy and turning his back on Jesus. Peter denied Jesus, which might also be a form of blasphemy, however, I believe Jesus forgave him through a special circumstance- asking if he loved Him three times.

People are deceived if they believe everyone goes to heaven regardless of how much sick and vile evil they commit against God, like Hitler mass murdering people. Jesus already said most people will go to hell. Just read the gospels and his many parables. They are all similar themes- warning after warning.

Jesus died for everyone, but forgiveness is contingent upon someone humbling themselves, repenting, confessing, believing, declaring Jesus is Lord and accepting the gift. Acts 2:38 - this requires an action. It doesn't say 'Do nothing and ye shall receive the gift' or 'Keep sinning as much as you want...' Here's another action requirement: repentance: Luke 5:32. Here's another confessing: 1 John 1:9.

Romans 10:9 - notice the "If..." People don't say "if" unless it's conditional. Salvation is conditional.

This says to believe: 1 John 5:13. It doesn't say 'not believing is totally fine.' Romans 12:2 - this says to be transformed and to not conform to the world. That's a big bummer for those hoping for a free get out of hell free card to enjoy a lifetime of sin and guilty pleasures. Look at this: John 8:11 and even this: James 2:26. Another: James 4:6. Reading the Bible for what it is paints a very different picture than the little summaries people like to spread around. People who ignore all the Bible's teachings and do whatever they want should be afraid for their soul: Luke 12:5. God bless.

Sister GiGi, I agree with Rick, Christ was born a man like unto us.

He received the Spirit at the baptism by John. That's why he told John it was of necessity to be baptised by him.

The Spirit, as the likeness of a dove, was visible evidence of this baptism of Spirit.

In Isaiah we have the prophecy;

Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

Isaiah 11:2 And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom, and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord;

Isaiah 11:3 And make him of QUICK UNDERSTANDING of the fear of the Lord ....

Jesus was GIVEN this as a MAN at his baptism of spirit, just as we as MEN are GIVEN THE SAME. He was made to have this, by the Father, not born with it.

Jesus was not fully man and fully God. He is a BODY FILLED with GOD. He said of myself I can do nothing. If he were fully God he could of him self done All things, but he said I do ALL things through my Father.

Rick, I did not mean to say that you have said that Jesus became the Son of God at His baptism. I am sorry if you took it that way. What I meant was that if one can say that Jesus did not have the Spirit before His baptism, one could also say that He became the Son of God at that time, too. It would be logical to think so. But I do not believe either statement to be true.

And, you are right, we each are free to believe our own way. I respect that.

David,

It is one thing to agree that it is God's Spirit who is our teacher, but to say that His Spirit revealed something, that's something I think should be between the believer and the Lord. But people will use that to try and prove what they are saying is true. I mean, if the Holy Spirit revealed it to them, it must be true right? That's where we have to be careful.

I've been face to face with people who have tried to convince me of something and then tell me that the Holy Spirit revealed it to them. I love those kind of discussions. My response was that if the Holy Spirit revealed something to you that is fine and dandy. But If God's Spirit does not reveal the same thing to me, it means absolutely nothing! They usually look at me like I'm sort of a smart aleck. And then I like to ask them how do they know it was the Holy Spirit? That question seems to stumble a lot of people.

I guess we would both be hardliners!

I did not see a place for an offense. Neither did I take one. I am not sure if I was speaking directly to anyone. But I welcome any comments. However, it's one right to freedom of speech to disagree in an agreeable manner. Nevertheless, I hear your statement but I do not agree with your doctrine that we are all born as vessel fit for destruction such as Judas was. Read the Bible. There are some vessels that are fit for destruction and some for honor. Judas Iscariot was fit for destruction from the beginning. It is a damanable doctrine that one would teach that Judas was saved or received salvation. I have heard that lying teaching in other places. But it is a damanable doctrine because it destroys the souls of men and underminds the work of salvation. The devil enter into Judas. Show me when he got cast out of him. Judas went to hell. People are leaving this world every day going to hell. And many ministers or believers are to busy trying to make the pews padded and comfortable. Also, they taper the Word so that it feels good to people. But, I was not created as a vessel for destruction but for honor. No, I was shaped in sin but not destruction there is a difference. I know who I am in Christ Jesus. I am filled with the Spirit of God and have no need of man to teach me who I am. I am just speaking the truth in love. Whether you reject this response or not, it does not really matter. But so far your comment is misleading to all who will read it. It leads away from the shedded blood of Christ. One can preach Jesus but if he is not a bleeding Jesus then people are not saved. You see Judas had sold out the innocent blood. I can preach on this all day. I live what I preach. The blood of Jesus is to be taken and handled in a holy manner. Because as the blood Christ cleanse and saves then it can also destroy. Just start pleading it and a applying it.

I love you with the love of the Lord

But I hate error; lies

Shalom!!?

Brother Jesse: Joseph was a saviour, just as we are going to be, when Christ and his elect judge the world.

Obadiah 1:21

Genesis 45:7 And God sent me before you to SAVE a posterity in the earth, and to SAVE your lives by a great deliverance.



Genesis 50:20 But as for you, you thought evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to SAVE much people alive.

Joseph was a shadow as was Moses, Adam, Noah, etc. etc. to reveal the TRUE saviour of ALL MANKIND.

Thank you Ron! I appreciate your input and will certainly pray for understanding. Hava terrific day!

Please pray for Sylvia Pattillo for whole body healing and deliverance from kidney stone, chronic venous stasis, severe rheumatoid arthritis, poor blood circulation to her heart and deliverance from the colostomy bag resultedfrom diverticulitis. God is still in the business of miracles and she needs one. Thank you and God bless.

On the red link page, the Apocrypha; if you type giants into the search box; there's a lot more info on giants.

I don't study that. Mostly, because angels are created by God. The ones that followed satan when he was thrown out of heaven became fallen/evil like Satan (who was created too).

Scripture teaches when we are caught up to heaven we'll be as the angels: not given in marriage (or dating). Anatomically speaking I don't know what that means. I don't know what the demons are like. Unless they borrow a human body (from the unsaved peoples), they are invisible. Ephesians 6.

After Noah's Ark, demons would have spirit bodies. Personally, I was attacked by a spirit in which a person whom I quoted scripture to for being involved in spiritism; allowed entry by a demon. It almost broke my neck. I pled the Blood of Jesus and angels took "it" off me and fought it outside in the yard. I heard it.

This can't happen to a born again Christian.

It is wisdom to not delve into the supernatural because our "faith" in the credence of it, attracts evil spirits. Better that our faith is STRONG in Jesus's Authority over evil spirits. Don't walk a tightrope unless you are prepared to fall.

Witches and satanic priests have relations with demons; only invisible beings cannot have mortal body parts.

Be very careful over your curiosity about forbidden dabbling. Leave this alone. You're being targeted.

I may be on the wrong site to ask this but reading your faith points in answers to discuss questions im desperate for prayers im a stroke survivor i rescued a cat but the cat rescued me from depression after stroke i said i know god sent him now my dear thomas is missing for a week today im standing in faith believing i will have him back when youve done all you can do stand and i am but please feel my broken heart and pray he is an indoor cat and slipped out someway im desperate and my back is against the wall it seems like someone has died in my house help in anyway you can words of encouragement scriptures etc

Dee no offence but we are are all born for destruction according to our old Adamic nature as Jesus said every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire , Malachi 3 : 1 kjv Who shall abide the day of his coming who shall stand when he appears, For he shall be as a refiners fire and fullers soap . Thats what the H.G. is a consuming fire as our God is a CONSUMING FIRE . Remember Jesus said i come to bring fire on the Earth. meaning mans Adamic Evil nature. Rev. speaks of the slain of the lord is gona be many. Its our old ADAMIC NATURE that he wants to destroy . Not mankind per se , I come not to destroy mens lives but to save mens lives . He wants to give us a new heart and a new spirit. But our old man is in rank with Satan thats y he refered to Peter as Satan.

Alex There's a major difference between some one not being righteous and what we stated previously is way

off subject matter or way our of context so that being the case I'm moving on. God Bless!

Jesse You can call me a hardliner but I here way to many so called christians saying the spirit told me this

or that and it does not line up with Gods Word, and its happening way too often.

Hiya Rick but lets look at John 2 : 23 kjv. Many ppl believed in his name when they saw the miracles he did but Jesus wd not commit himself to them b/c he knew ALL MEN AND NEEDED NOT THAT ANY SHOULD TESIFY OF MAN. B/c he knew all Men Jesus knew what was in man. Jesus said outta of the hearts of man proceeds all manner of evil . Thats y he had to die Jesus said if i belifted up i will draw ALL men unto me As there was none righteous no not one . No not one.

Gigi P.S. I never said he became Gods Son he was Gods Only begotten Son period, I don't understand why

I share something then people make a statement that I didn't but that's o.k. So as to not argue I'm moving on.

God Bless

Alex,

No offence taken. You make a valid point in that Jesus died for every sinner. That is true. And yes, Joseph forgave his brothers. But Joseph was not a "type" of Christ. Joseph had no saving power.



And then you say "When Jesus said have not I chosen you 12 but 1 of you is a demon, that was all of them." How could that be all of them when Jesus said one, referring to Judas? Yes, "the Lord died for people like Judas." But as you properly state, "We must be born-again, every one of us." That's the key! We must be born again. I see zero evidence that Judas was ever "born-again?"

Jesus did not refer to Peter as Satan. First of all, Jesus said to Peter get behind me. That's important. Jesus always emphasizes that whether it's Satan, people, or whoever it is, the proper position is always behind Him. He says to Peter, "Get behind me Satan." Again, He's not calling Peter Satan. He's speaking to the influence over Peter. It's Satan that says there will be no suffering or hardship in the flesh. Satan is the great defender of the flesh. And through human reason and logic, he will oppose any doctrine that presents the fact that if you follow Jesus, there will be suffering and persecution.

He says thou art an offense (SCANDALIDZO) to me. A SCANDALON in Greek was actually a rock that you tripped over. So Jesus says, Satan you are throwing a rock in my path to keep me from reaching my goal. He says to Peter, "For thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men." This comes from the Greek word PHRONAY which means frame of mind. Jesus is telling Peter that his frame of mind is not on the things of God, but on the things of man. When we hear about suffering, how do we react? Peter's reaction was, and his frame of mind was to defend and protect the flesh because the Lord had said He was going to be taken and be put to death, and Peter said that will never happen. Do you see where his frame of mind was?

I'm sorry to hear that you born with a demon!

Gigi What I stated absolutely takes nothing away from Him the only begotten Son of God

so its your privilege to not agree.