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Jesse My understanding biblically is repentance is for the unsaved[before born again] and forgiveness

when a believer sins recognises it and ask and be thankful for forgiveness and move on. This is short version.

Gigi This is not a subject I focus on or discuss much because I really don't think about evil until I'm presented

with a situation then ask the father whats going on and what to do. I endeavor to focus on the Gospel.

Tony Spirit is not passed at birth, when any human is born he is body and soul, the only exception to this that

I'm aware of is John the baptist, even Jesus Christ was not born with Spirit, John 1:32. When an individual gets

born again he receives that which he didn't have before holy spirit eternal life Gods Gift. Now some believe the

spirit and soul are the same.

Spirit life is eternal where as when you take your last breath that's the end of sou life , Genesis 2:7 God formed man, gave him shape then breathed into his nostrils breath of life and he became a living Soul

it is believed by some since God is Spirit that is what he breathed in man. In Genesis 1:27 God created man in His own

Image and In the Gospel of John 4:24 Jesus Christ said God Is Spirit. So man in the beginning was body soul and spirit

when man sinned in Genesis He lost his Most important part His Spiritual connection with God which was bought back by Jesus Christ.

Prayers over my health, family disorientation in several members, auspice, weal, jobs, and my father's rudeness and mean jokes as a separate issue. Please show me grandmother how he is so he is nice to m because I already added too many prayers.

please remember myself today and my daughters and their families in your prayers, please remember Kristie, please remember my lost coworkers, Praise report Gary is doing better and out of the hospital, Praise the Lord

These Gospels are indeed important and should not have been removed from the KJV Bible. As God said No one is to add or remove scripture from His Holy Bible and so many have been removed by MAN.

Ephesians 3.1

When God blesses there is nothing like it .

By doing his word , when we please Him He lets us know it .

Except be thankful and enjoy

theres nothing i hate more than error.. sin is error. to err from the way.. being half german and Australian, the good'ol she'll be right mate just dont cut it with the goad for me.. German's require perfection, hence the Word of the Lord..

sure i have erred, and i hated it when i realised what transpired from it. Christ died, was buried, but rose again. there is something to be said for sound winners so i confessed! and chose to have my debt cleared. yes we of faith are all under sanctification, and still err till our deaths, but pls, for the Love of Christ ;) , make ur comments sound.. i am jealous for him and his perfect glory.. ..does me!

to debbi, why cant you find time to read the bible?.. Job 23:12 "Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food."

u think everything else is more important..

;) xo

Hello Rick! I appreciate your feedback. After reading both my initial posts, do you think my proposal is valid?

1. Sons of God and Satan presented themselves to God because they were evil.

2. God banished them to earth where at least some "possessed" the natural bodies of men

3. Having commandeered these bodies at birth (when the soul & spirit are given), they assumed all the natural attributes of men.

4. That is why the sons of God (now devils masquerading as men) found the women attractive and married them.

5. The result was children with human traits but evil spirits.

6. God saw what happened and lamenting, wanted to destroy man.

7. Except for Noah.

I believe that I can back all this up with several Biblical verses. Is my analysis accurate? Where am I wrong? Is this plausible? Thanks!

John 1, John 2, these should link Gospel of John for you.

In a google search, it says that gold was the first mineral to be mined and refined. I can be found around the world and exists in an almost pure form.

Genesis 4:19-20 says that Cain's descendant, Tubal-Cain (Lamech's son) worked in metallurgy using bronze and iron. So, it seems to have been known about very early in human History.

Sandy,

If you google about the type of altar God accepts, you will find that He instructed His people to make altars of unhewn stones. He did not want any "tooled" altars. (man made bricks, carved, engraved, etc.) This is probably a connection to the commandment to not make any graven images. Most likely, altars of pagans were engraved with icons and images of deities and symbols of their pagan religions. Also, perhaps He instructed this way so that the people would know that they could make an altar of stones anywhere and anytime. They would not have to travel to a temple or place of worship. They could worship God anytime, anywhere, in any circumstance.

I was reading on this on a website, Thinkers Bible Study. Things are explained there in a very easy to understand way. It gives some things to ponder and consider.

You are proving my point of view.

Rick and Mishael,

It is very evident that evil spirits are active in our sphere of existence. The Incarnate Word, Jesus, took them on in His authority as God when they manifested in "broad daylight" before many people. They didn't just begin to work evil in the world during Jesus' time on earth. They did this work from the beginning. And they did not stop working evil when Jesus died and rose and ascended. They have continued working evil to this day. A lot is done in "secret" when people participate in occult practices. But in foreign countries such as Africa and Asia, they do manifest openly in people they are torturing.

They constantly war against God, believers, and the witness of the Church. Perhaps we have been lulled by the ease of life and protection here in the U.S. to not pay attention to these evil entities. But they are paying attention to us, whether we are aware of it or not. We can hide ourselves in Christ and be equipped for the task of interceding for others, speaking God's Word to repel evil spirits, and walking in obedience to Christ.

I appreciate your perspectives, as I have had just a few experiences where I knew I was dealing with something evil within a person I was interacting with. I am thankful it is not an everyday occurrence. But for some, it is a daily battle. May we keep these people in our prayers, whether we know them by name or not. The Spirit will help us in intecessory prayer, praying in and through us.

Thank you very much

Leland,

It is true that Judas repented. But is it really the same repentance that a person expresses when they realize their sin and need of a Savior. I would say no, and please allow me to explain how I come to this conclusion.



First off, we do know that the Bible says that Judas repented. But the word used where it says he repented is not the word used for repent as in making a decision to change the direction of your life and surrendering your life to Christ.

The repentance you mention that we as believers express is the word METANOEO which is true repentance where a person makes the decision to change the direction of their life. And that person must realize that they cannot change themselves. They need Christ to make that change.

The word METANOEO is not the word that was used for Judas where it says he repented. That word is METAMELOMAI which is a word that means to be sorry for your action.

So yes, Judas was sorry for his action, but he did not express true repentance and ask for forgiveness. Plus, Judas was evil from the very beginning when Jesus chose him to be part of the 12. Jesus chose an evil man to fulfill an evil deed.

I just wanted to share this with you on the word repent. We see it in our English Bible and we know what repent means in English. But knowing that there is more than one word in the Greek text for our English word repent, I have to conclude that Judas was only sorry for his action (METAMELOMAI), because that's the word that was used, and he never truly repented (METANOEO).

Thank you for the answer.

Very good explanation, Jesse

Yep, Jesus is above all else, pre-eminent.

Linda. There are two references to this: Isaiah 13:9.10 and Joel 3:14-16.

GiGi, very well put!

Yes, and God's revelation to man that leads us to know Him through His Son, Jesus Christ, of Whom the gospel testifies.

Brother Chris,

I agree. My understanding is that end time prophecies are centered on the Jewish People. So if a prophecy is ever presented as centered on the United States of America, you know it is going to be off. All prophecy is centered around the Jewish people.

Carleton, I have thought that also.

Hello, Amarin,

I think that the verse in Jeremiah is referring to an Asherah pole or tree, which was usually carved in the image of the goddess Asherah, also known as Asteroth, Ishtar, Isis, etc. These poles/trees were stood up next to the altars of Baal, also known as Marduk, Molech, etc. (the Moon god). These idols were used in worship. They were most often placed on "high place" (hills, mounds) and often among a grove of trees (sometimes trees they planted specifically for worship purposes).

Chris and Jesse, agreed, we should work diligently to study what Scripture actually says trying our best to put aside our biases and bents, so that we can be sure not to add to or stretch what we think is said, but consider what is actually said.

Hi Tony Its not that devils have natural traits, when a human is possessed the entity literally controls that body

at its will, notice I said devils because that's what scripture calls them. Also there is a major difference between

possession and influence, this is a field all its own that very few people believe or understand. One example I know

of possession was a person I think in China could change the form of metal by thought, that was spiritual power.

Any person that displays a so called ability that breaks natural law walking on coals of fire, so called mental telepathy

clairvoyance , clairaudience, these things are forms of influence or possession.

All of the above can be delivered and set free by the gospel.

Asking prayer for my sister (needs deliverance from bondage, emotional instability and salvation), my dad (alcoholic for 50 years, salvation), my niece (lots of heart and soul wounds from emotional/verbal abuse, believes in Jesus but is not allowed to "live" her faith at home, read the bible etc. and the enemy attacks her), my mom and I who are believers but struggle with many things, need healing and deliverance), in my church there are quite a few who need deliverance and healing (emotional instability, perhaps demonic issues), for us believers to be equipped to deal with these things with more power. Asking for protection (spiritually, emotionally, physically) for all of us. Asking for the Lord to grant an outpouring of the Holy Spirit on a large scale (worldwide) so that multitudes go free (freed from addictions, emotional issues, the demonic) and are saved (most important). Most my relatives are not saved, none at work, most people where I live. Its a very dark place spiritually. Thank you for praying and may the Lord multiply these prayers so that many who have similar needs get helped too.