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Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. It's hard for me to grasp that "all" will be in the Kingdom.
I do certainly agree with you, That God/Christ is in charge, and it His will that trumps all!
God Bless
This will happen when the sower of the good seed will go forth and sow his seed The living word in humanity. Thats why Jesus said to whom the word came it made them Gods as the good seed is the living word of God. Now we see that Jesus is gona multiply himself in humanity via his seed. That was the Promise ( multiplication of his seed ) The H.G. is the Granson that is gonna be regenerated as the stars of heaven thus an Israel of God. The H.G. is in rank with Jacob the Granson but the H.G. Answers to the heavenly Jacob that is coming an Israel of GOD. via the seed of Christ which are spirits as Jesus said that which is BORN of the spirit is spirit, Thats the H.G. the Israel of God. Our new innerman,or rather our new heart and new spirit. Thats y Jacob's name was changed to Israel the heavenly Jacob is the Israel of God. And Jesus is the sower of that good seed thus its Jesus who is the Father of that heavenly Child the H.G. The Child of PROMISE Thus the Child is the Granson.
Good perspective on the bed issue. So they didn't have Sleep Number beds nor Mr. Pillow pillows:)
completed His mission and sat down at the right Hand throne of God. The Gift of Holy Spirit is in the Epistles known
as Christ in us the hope of Glory, it is a spiritual new man created in righteousness and Holiness, it is our God given
power to use the name of Jesus Christ to kick the enemies butt. We are to walk in the Faith of the new man which is
by making Gods word our Will in the renewed mind, of Course after Romans 10:9+10 from the mouth and in the heart.
My understanding God Bless
Him. The day of Christ is future when Christ dose the judging Revelation, today is known as mans day 1 Corinthians 4:3 it says
concerning mans Judgement this word judgement is [hemera and it is the only place translated day], this is saying this is
mans day where man does all the judging, but when the day of Christ comes He will do the Judging, but before that day
which is in revelation the body of Christ will be taken up and then what is known as The AntiChrist will come in into
full power. There are many things against Christ or the gospel now but they are not The Antichrist
The only reason that is not occuring now is because we who believe and walk in the light of the word
are still reconciling men that want to believe back to God the Ministry of Reconciliation which we all are a part of
2 Corinthians 5:17-19. We who are born again in the Age of grace are indeed saved from the Judgement to come on
the people who chose not to believe. The only thing Believers will be judged for are the works done according to the
word all the rest burn't up and we will have bodies like unto His Glorious body THe Hope. Talk about a Bright Future its a no Loss deal because we believe and act on Gods Word.
We shall see when it happens.
I just cannot concur with your thinking of equating the sending of the Holy Spirit as the second coming of Jesus or that the Holy Spirit and Jesus are the same Person.
He has always used men to fulfill his PURPOSE.
Romans 9:11 ... that the PURPOSE of ELECTION might stand.
He has PURPOSED that there will be a KINGDOM on this EARTH, and ALL creation will be in this kingdom.
God CHOOSES people to fulfill his PURPOSE. Not because he loves one more than another, but because he has ELECTED that person to fulfill the purpose he chose for them.
You can see this because God has recorded his word for us to understand this ELECTION of persons.
The age we are NOW IN, God is calling out those he has ELECTED to be Priest in His Kingdom.
Not everyone is called, only his sheep hear his voice, those not of the Election to be priest don't hear this voice because they are not called to be priest, but will come into the kingdom later, at the resurrection to judgement.
Judgement is not punishment, but coming to TRUTH.
Christ took our PUNISHMENT.
It's really easy TO REST in Christ when you understand, this purpose of election.
One will be (taken as a priest) the other will be left to (come into God's election at another time).
But ALL will eventually be in the KINGDOM OF GOD.
Great post! Many, many, many Christians struggle with this question. I will be the first to say I also struggle with this, because of reading/interpretion on various scripture related to God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.
I currently believe all three exist but they are ONE. God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Sprit, they makeup the Godhead.
Sounds simple, but it really isn't. I continue to ask the Holy Spirit fo guidence on this. Maybe none of us will know for sure until we recieve our final salvation.
God Bless.
That does seem odd that the question was posted a month ago with zero response. I personally do not recall seeing the question but I do remember seeing a similar question not too long ago. I too have heard different interpretations on those verses in Luke. I would also like to share my understanding of Luke 17:34-35 for what it's worth.
First of all, something that should be known is that the word "men" in verse 34 is not found in any manuscript so I'm not sure why the translators put the word men in there. The reason why I think this is important to know is because this is one of the verses I have heard people use to justify homosexuality. But no manuscript has the word men. It's just two people. Just though I'd share that.
As far as where the "one taken," goes, this is what I see. Right after Jesus just got through saying there shall be two in one bed, one taken, the other one left, and two in the field, one taken, the other one left, in verse 37 the disciples asked Jesus "Where Lord?" So they want to know where the one taken is taken to. When I look at Jesus' answer in Luke 17:37, He says "Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together."
This tells me that He is talking about that day when people are going to gather together in the Valley outside of Jerusalem to fight against Christ at His coming. Remember in Revelation, it tells us that the birds are going to be called in to feed on their carcasses. If I remember correctly (I would have to search), but these people (The one's taken) have been drawn out into the battle by Christ.
Thanks for your response, and for bumping this post back up.
I'm currently of the same thinking as you regarding the rapture. I don't see real biblical support for the rapture, I believe the followers of Jesus Christ will be caught up to meet HIM, but this will be after the Tribulation and the trumpets of the Day of the Lord, at the sound of the last, or seventh trumpet, when all true Christians who've died or are still alive are changed together.
I'm still studying this, and regarding specifically Luke 17:34-35 Why are two men in bed together? What does it mean that two women are grinding together?
I have some thoughts on this, but I was hoping that others might want to weigh in with their thoughts.
God Bless.
Colossians 1:27 You whom God would make made known which is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory.
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth, whom the world CANNOT receive because he seeth him not, neither knoweth him, but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall BE IN YOU.
These are God's words, if this is a reality to you then Christ has COME THE SECOND TIME; TO YOU.
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (first coming), and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (as CHRIST IN YOU) (second coming) without sin (Christ's sacrifice covered our sin in his first coming) unto SALVATION.
Isaiah 27:12 It shall come to pass in that day (we are in that day), that the Lord shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and ye shall BE GATHERED ONE by ONE, O ye children if Israel (the elect are the TRUE children of Israel).
Matthew 24:40 One shall be taken, to be a Son of God, and never see death, and one shall be left, to die in their sins, lay in the grave, resurrected to flesh and judged in the fire of the Lord, not TORTURED IN PHYSICAL FIRE.
Be with her through it all. Walk with her Jesus. Talk with her Jesus. Help and strengthen her when she's weak or discouraged. Let her come out of this trial with a wonderful testimony! Because we all need it.
Help Olivia. Anytime our children suffer so do we. When we suffer You have compassion on us as well. Let Your will be done. We ask that You heal her. You are able! In Jesus name we pray. Amen
to get out of a problem Ananias and Sapphira with the money. Non willful or none intentional telling someone there doing
something wrong but not instructing them on how to change or what to do right, this would be a sin of communication
none intentional. The individual telling some one there doing something wrong the wisdom would be connect them to
someone more experienced to help the person in the specific area of need.
When teaching a child to do work you show them what you were taught or Doctrine, when the chid strays off the
correct way we explain to them this is why you don't do this way reproof, then we again we correct them to get them back to the correct way. The same thing applies to any field of learning until the field is mastered.
Please pray for Mendocino County, Ca
That the body here would begin to cast off works of darkness.
A spiritual awakening
Revival
Please pray that all Christians in my county unite for a time by of fasting and prayer monthly for the pulling down of strongholds in our county.
Our people need deliverance and salvation.
I pray this for all of the body of Christ. Help us to get such a desire for things of the Heavenly Kingdom that we would hunger and thirst after Your righteousness and cause, and become like You!
That Your true character would dwell in us. And then we could see as You see and love with Your heart. Mold us and make us we pray. You are the potter and we are the clay. Help us to be willing to drink this cup Father. In Jesus name we pray .Amen.
please remember myself and my daughters in your prayers today, both may lose the jobs due to covid mandate, remember Kristie and remember Gary he was admitted to the hospital last night, remember my lost coworkers who are so lost to the world and so full of hate and envy
Example. Men have the authority. And Wom-an have it different, becouse of the child birth with blood and wather and pain. Wo-man need protection. And the man should be the protection for her.
Soo with them lady's who is alone, and may be virgin and dont have a man, need the protection, and want to show it. They have God Him self as the Protector. The same for the man virgin. They must give theyr heart too God.
What do Paul tell us? That we shall stretch out a hand too widows and those who is without father. Becouse ones they hade the protector.
my Word today is 1 Peter 4:1-6 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:
5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
God bless us all with heavenly understanding and let us subordinate our self in Jesus Holy Name, Amen
1 Peter 1-6 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
3 For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries:
4 Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:
5 Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead.
6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.
In the spirit u get all your pray. In Gods plan. Hallelujah Abba Father Amen. Love u in Christ Jesus
of course Judas blew it.
As today, even in those early days, how one appeared in public before others can become a consuming passion & a stumbling-block to godly reflection. There may well have been the societal pressure even then to conform, or maybe even outdo others, in the area of fashion; so the apostles' word was to not focus on the outward but on the inward - not presenting themselves as the focus of beauty & desire, but to present Christ as the focus of His Presence & Beauty emanating through them. It maybe that men in those days cared little about what they wore, which also reflects my own fashion-sense (thus needing my dear wife to ensure I have some degree of respectability before others & of minimal embarrassment to her), therefore no advice was given to men. But to both men & women, we are called to examine ourselves, especially inwardly, ensuring our hearts are clear before the Lord & our lives glorify Christ as others observe us ( 2 Corinthians 3:1-3).
Peter was definitely a "Let's Go Get 'Em" kind of man, but he also denied Jesus 3 times and received the Lord's gentle forgiveness after the resurrection. I am sure Peter was so sorry and bothered that he did exactly like Jesus had prophesied he would do. He probably thought that the risen Lord would not accept Him back. But receiving that forgiveness was precious to him, and I think that event stuck with Him throughout his ministry. God uses broken vessels, but it is necessary for God to break His vessels in order to remake them into a vessel He can use. Peter is a good example of this.
Have a blessed night of rest. I'm off to bed. Got backing to do tomorrow getting ready for Thanksgiving dinner with my family.