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Sister GiGi:

Ephesians 4:5 ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism,

Is it water baptism, or Spirit baptism.

Water baptism is just the shadow of the TRUE BAPTISM.

One makes you wet, the other makes you clean.

Hi Phillip Good Stuff Brother!

Hi Philip , hope you don't mind me butting on here . I've always believed that the Rock is actually Peters confession : Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God ,that it is also the rock of offense and the stumbling block of the Jews , the rock that the house is builder on that doesn't collapse when the storm comes and the rock cut out of the mountain , without hands in Daniel Ch 2 , V 34 . This rock is a definite theme I believe and well worth studying if you feel so inclined . I imagine that you have already guessed its significance .

Hi Marion My parents when I was younger took me to a methodists church of course being young and really not caring I

didn't learn much, then when I became interested the first question I ask the pastor was where did methodism

come from he said John Wesley ha d a method of teaching the bible in England. My point being when it comes to Gods

Word my position got to the point of what is Christianity not all the man made theological pillars of thought. The reason I

say this is men of equal intelligence and beliefs will have entirely different ideas on scripture, I just wanted to know what

works or doesn't then Let Go and Ler God.

Please pray that I have favor energy strength and do a great job with alertness and that it's not busy at work tomorrow and that I can go to the store a few times ijnip amen

Brother Ronald. Those (CHOSEN) have their part in the first resurrection (Christ's resurrection). The chosen want be in the second resurrection.

Luke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection of the dead (we are dead in our trespasses, sinful flesh) ....

Luke 20:36 Neither can they die anymore (they died the first death, their life for the life of Christ), for they are equal unto the angel; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it (the SEED) a body as it has pleased him, and to every SEED his (CHRIST'S) own body.

The chosen are called to be priest, under their High Priest, Christ, in the kingdom on earth, when all other flesh has been resurrected, to judgement.

Jeremiah 51:19-23

Isaiah 65:12-17

Isaiah 66:18-24

The above scriptures, and others not listed, is the white throne judgement.

Amen to everything you have stated Sister GiGi.

God bless.

Shalam...I came on looking for additional info/commentary on the beast in this chapter, "being like unto a leopard", but your post made some interesting points. Based on all that's unfolding I see the jab as most definitely the motb. When you look into the ingredients of this poison we find them to be gene altering no longer leaving the person a Creation of The Most High...they are then transhuman if they have chosen that route unless their jab was actually a placebo not the poison. An mRNA operating system, aborted fetal tissue, graphine oxide, luciferase and "supposedly" a Hydra gmo-- all these are mixed-in and already creating other-than-human beings on the earth.

As for the context in which "causeth" is used, I interpret it differently. First, we know we are unredeemable if we take the mark, and the believers and followers of The Way are written in the Book of Life, so surely The Most High would not force death upon those who are His or those with an option to be. Secondly, "causeth" doesn't necessarily mean "by force"; I see the cause as by deception. And when we look at it thru that lense, it lines up. This plandemic is built on a mountain of lies.

In order to understand scripture we must first understand that Christianity is a product of the Roman Catholic Church and the RCC a product of the paganism of the Roman Empire and that Rome is Edom and is Edom is Esau. Romans 9:13 tells us, As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Lastly, we must know who the true Children of Israel are. Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 both mention those who say they are Jews but are of the synagogue of Satan. Without this truth, we are not able to accurately interpret the scriptures. Interestingly enough, the very people who are downtrodden and seen as worthless are the "apple of his eye", aka, the so-called African-American and other so-called Black people scattered across the four corners of the earth by way of captivity. The rabbit hole goes leagues deep.

Hi Brother Dan.

Thanks for your reply. Sorry for such a late reply.

You mentioned John 3:5. Romans 6:1-6. Galatians 3:26-27. and Acts 2:38. The only verse of the 4 mentioned that has anything to do with water baptism is Acts 2:38. and you apply it wrong when you use it as proof of an requirement for salvation. Peter is talking to Jews who had the word of God who had a God given religion, who knew the prophesies concerning a messiah. But they trusted in the Law that couldn't regenerate a soul.

"The law was their schoolmaster" Galatians 3:24. They are to turn around and come Gods way. John the Baptist was the forerunner for this message preaching the baptism of repentance "TO THE JEWS".

The old covenant they offered up sacrifices that couldn't save but pointed to the Lamb of God.

Here they're asked to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. Water Baptism would be the evidence that "THEY" had repented, That they had come to Christ and put their trust in Him! Rather than bring a sacrifice to be offered.

As the sacrifices was a "foreshadowing' of Christ, Water baptism "Demonstrates" the Death and resurrection, In that demonstration THERE'S NO QUIKENING INVOLVED HERE! Only when we believed, Christ died We died!

That brings us to these other verses you mentioned. Galatians 3:26-28. and Romans 6:1-6. Have you noticed the phrase "BAPTIZED INTO" in Romans and Galatians? This speaks of the work of the Holyspirit to those who "TRULY" believed! they have been put into the body of believers.

After this occurs We should be barring fruit and have great concern there, Because that is something you cant produce on your own! This happens only "IF" you have been truly put in Christ. IDENTIFIED with his Death and resurrection. "The Baptism of the Holyspirit". you inherit the promise of Abraham. Galatians 3:18-29.

That is the context of the verses you have given.

These verses describes the work of the cross and true profession.

God bless.

Matthew 23:9,

Revelations 3:7, Isaiah 22:22, perhaps it's Jesus symbolism John 14:16

Hi Victoria All or most of us on this site at one time did this to get started in out walk of faith and believing

Romans 10: 9+10 It says if thou shalt confess with thy mouth[your part] the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine

Heart [inner most part of your being] that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved[ sozo=to make or

keep sound or safe] Gods Job. Then change your life to what the word of God says to do, and trust me God will do the

rest His Job. Only a suggestion find a fellowship of believers or church and I like to start in the church Epistles

addressed to the body of Christ in our day and time then the Gospels then old testament. That being said its all Gods

promises to us who believe. God Bless

Thank you Gigi.

Sorry, I meant Alex, now that I refer back to the post. But I do see both you and Earl do allegorize often. I will read what people write who do this but personally, I do not agree that this type of interpretation is to be applied as broadly as I have seen in your posts. I believe that it can easily lead to all kinds of error. The Epistle writers termed in twisting of Scripture.

Sorry, don't mean to be oppositional, just voicing my concern, especially that there is a large group of people reading on here who may not post their ideas and perhaps being very new to faith. I am concerned for them.

That said, we are all free on this site to express our viewpoints regardless of whether anyone agrees or not. It just should be noted that anything said on this site is opinion or speculation, not inspired by God as the Scriptures are, so we need to have discerning minds and hearts like the Bereans.

God bless you always.

Brother Ronald, Revelation is signified. The lake of fire REPRESENTS SOMETHING.

The first and death death REPRESENTS SOMETHING.

Since there is a second death, there has to also be a first death.

The chosen take part in the first death ( John 12:25) while they still have breath in their nostrils.

In Revelation 9:18 The third are killed (they die for Christ's life as Christ died to give you his life) by fire and brimstone. IN CHRIST (also Revelation 8)

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Ezekiel 5:2-4 This is the same third described in Revelation 9:18 and Zechariah 13:9

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity, He that killeth (teaches truth) with the sword (the word) must also be killed with the sword (the word).

You are in the lake of fire, being purified and destroyed at the same time.

God Bless You!

Earl, I don't recall every reading in the Scripture that the "baptism" of the Holy Spirit replaced water baptism. I think that allegorizing Scripture as you do leads to interpretations that may or may not be true. That is way I stick to the plain text meaning of Scripture in the context of the passage. If your opinion is true, then Paul, Peter, James, John, and Jude would have plainly taught what you stated.

Bro Dan, I agree that we receive the fullness of salvation at the end of our life here. Jesus said that those who endure in faith to the end will be saved. So, that seems to indicate that salvation is given to those who continue in the faith until death. In the mean time, I think people may turn from faith and return many times or not return at all. But others have a different opinion on this. The early church struggled with what to do with those who renounced their faith during persecution and then wished to rejoin the fellowship after the danger had past. The question of whether to re-baptize them or not was a major point of concern. Many Christians waited until they were close to death before being baptized due to persecution and the concern about falling away after being baptized. It is interesting to read what the church leaders just after the death of the last apostle, John, in 98 A.D. wrote on this topic as they did teach baptismal regeneration as was taught by the apostles to them.

Yes, most people were not literate, too. Before the King James Bible was translated, Martin Luther translated the Bible in the common language of German people. (In the 1500's) He wanted everyone to be able to read the Word for themselves to test and see if what was being taught aligned with Scripture. So, God raised up people in that time period to be able to translate Scripture, but also caused the printing press to be invented so that writings could be efficiently printed in masse.

Such a good, good God.

I am so glad that God had chosen Paul from before time to be in be born, raised, and transformed in the time and place he lived. His life before meeting Jesus on the road to Damascus and after is a testament to the purpose, power, and grace of God to create such a great change in one who persecuted Jesus by persecuting the church.

The writings of Paul have helped my so many times over the years. I am glad God had Paul write so much!

Earl Actually according to the young s analytical concordance there are four different meanings biblically for hell,

sheol unseen state, hades unseen world, gehenna valley of hinnom the fire that never goes out and to send to tartarus.

There are many words translated to english that have different understanding in the original texts. That being satd the translators still did a phenomenal piece of work!

Thank you, Sacha,

I think it is becoming more common as the rebelliousness of our younger generation seems to be increasing. I could see the difference over the years as a teacher of Kindergarten. As time went by, more and more kiddos came into the school system with increased and more amplified behavior problems. So sad to encounter. I just hope that I was able to touch them with the love of Christ the year I had them in my class.

RE. Matthew 16:18

While Peter was arguably the most impulsively outspoken disciple and unofficially considered a leader among the disciples, The LORD expressed this verse in such a way as to distinguish Peter from the Church's True and Actual HEAD, namely, LORD JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF.

The proper name Peter translates from the Greek proper noun (transliterated "Petros"; pronounced "PET-ros"), meaning a stone or a small rock. Compare The LORD addressing Simon (Peter) as recorded in John 1:42: "When JESUS beheld him (Simon Peter), HE said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas {the Greek rendering of the Aramaic}, which is by interpretation, A stone {Grk. noun "petros"}." From that point on, Simon (the Greek rendering of the Hebrew proper name Simeon) was commonly addressed by the surname Peter (a stone or small rock).

By great contrast, when The LORD proclaimed, "upon This ROCK I will build MY Church", HE identified HIMSELF as the Church's ROCK. Here, the word "ROCK" translates from the Greek noun root (transliterated "petra"; pronounced "PET-ra"), meaning a rock of immense and formidable size which covers a massive geographical footprint (cp. Mt. 7:25-25; 27:60; Mk. 15:46; Lu. 6:48; 8:6 & 13). The reader may think of the Rock of Gibraltar in contrast to a pebble.

Additionally, "PETRA" never refers to Peter, but always identifies LORD JESUS CHRIST (cp. Rom. 9:33; 1Cor. 10:4; 1Pet. 2:8).

Earl Apparently what you are saying is that God told you what the kingdom really is and nobody else is correct in there thinking or belief or what they've been taught concerning the scripture. So O.K. God Bless!

Hi Brother Jesse,

Thanks for your well written response.

I'm in agreement with you in that we are dependent on Jesus for Salvation. He will be our Judge.

Where I believe we have a difference in opinion, is after we have been Born Again, God still gives us a free will to do good or bad. Herein lies the the problem. If we are not fearful, as Paul states, we can slip back into our sinful worldly ways and based on much scripture, I believe that we can actually lose our salvation - because I believe we do not receive it until our final judgement.

Here is Jesus telling us what he will be expecting from us to receive our salvation and enter into the City.

Revelation 22:12-14

I do agree with you that God will work in us Through his Holy Spirit, but since we still have a free will, and the devil will continue to try his best to tempt us, (as the devil tempted Jesus) we will need to continue to strive, to become obedient, and work out our salvation as Paul stated.

In other words, we should work toward our own salvation with fear and trembling, as Paul described. This mindset can only help to humble us and hopefully keep us on track! I really think that Paul meant what he said regarding this recommendation to us. (The Church)

God Bless.

Amen Brother Alex, It seems we be among the few.

Hi Jean It is available for all believers to manifest or display power from on high Speaking in tongues, Jesus Christ spoke about this when addressing the samaritan woman when in John 4:23 +24 he said But the hour cometh and now is when the true worshipers shall worship the father in spirit and in truth for the father seeketh such to worship him. God is Spirit

and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth or truly by the spirit. That was the first display of

Gods spirit working on the day of pentecost birthday of the age of Grace. Some say special gift some say doesn't exist anymore some say not needed. 1 Corinthians 12 : Paul went from gift to in verse 7 to manifestation of the gift, it is a great benefit to the believer spiritually it is personal prayer between you and father not to be done out loud or out

of order because all things of God are done decent and in order This is not to say that believers who don't speak in tongues don't believe or love God, that is biblically not sound. My bible says confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe in your heart and act on Gods Word. My understanding

It's amazing , but not in a good way ! that so many of us on here have had such similar experiences with a family member and drugs and mental illness etc . I may be wrong but I'm sure I remember Mishael telling us of a similar situation to yours , with his family . His post was quite a while ago though so I could be mistaken , I'm sure he will let me know if I've got it wrong and maybe mixed him up with some one else . I'm glad everything turned out ok for your family .

Giving Thanks thanks for my friends i want to follow God become like Him i give thanks for my work i give thanks for my car when i get it God is Kings of Kings mighty King I love God all the time allways HE is allmighty King of universe I want to Know God Heavenly Father have wonderfull happy Thanksgiving

When Jesus was asking the Samaritian Woman at the well for drink he said whosoever drinks of this water shall thirst again ( salvation by water baptism only ) but the water that i shall give him shall be a well of water springing up unto everlasting life which is H.G. BAPTISM The GIFT OF God That Child of PROMISE God is spirit and them that worship him must worship him in spirit and Truth ( the Gift of the H.G. ) This speak he of the Spirit for the H.G was NOT yet given b/c that Jesus was not yet Glorified. Thats y John said i have need to be baptised of you. He must increase but i must decrease.....Water BAPTISM HAD TO DECREASE BUT H.G BAPTISM WILL INCREASE As God is gonna pour out his spirit on ALL flesh . If I be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me . In ADAM we ALL die but in Christ that 2 nd Adam we will ALL LIVE. He is gonna KNOW everbody thats y Isaiah is saying Knowledge is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas,....THIS KNOWLEDGE IS GONA RESULT IN an intimacy a BIRTH OF CHRIST IN EVERYBODY. As the new covenant is a birthing covenant. Behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the whole world as God so loved the world. It want be long and you will see bumber stickers saying i am with Child of the H.G. (AFTER THE BOOK IS OPENED. GBU. Jeremiah saw the whole world in travail and and birth pains, Fact 27 times in the O.T. THE PROPHETS SAW THE WORLD IN TRAVAIL AND BIRTH PAINS. Thats y he always refered to himself as the SON OF MAN. Which is mankinds fruit unto God a baby CHRIST. ROMANS 7 : 4 KJV

Please pray for healing for my husband myself children grandchildren LH Rosy Lino son and his family sinuses respiratory stomach intestinal infection several health problems inflammatory illness the medication is not working for salvation deliverance for Alessandra and Gloria mom sisters and their families for healing serious condition for finances thank you