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Precious brother Jesse, thanks so much for the Encouragement! You are the Very First to 'acknowledge' this point. Looking forward to meeting you in God's Great GLORYLAND (musical notes + happy face :) + UP Arrow )

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

( 2 Timothy 2:15 Romans 16:25 Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,? )

GRACE, Peace, Mercy, And LOVE In JESUS CHRIST! Praise His Precious Name!!

David,

Thank you so much for pointing out the difference between the flesh and the spirit. Our flesh will never submit to the things of the Lord. But Jesus did not save our flesh, He saved our soul/our spirit. It's our spirit which Christ has sealed with His Spirit that has been made perfect in Christ Jesus, and He has promised to never leave us, nor forsake us!

Again, thank you for everything you share!

Part 2:

Here's my understanding of Philippians 2:12. Paul says "Wherefore, my beloved, as you always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but also in my absence,"

So he praises them. He says you don't obey just when I'm there, but when I'm not there you obey. Here's what I want you to do. Here's the command, the salvation process.

And here's the literal translation from the Greek text: Be continually working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

You see, it's a process. But wait a minute now. I thought that we didn't have to work for our salvation? Well, to put it in perspective, I have to take the very next verse. I can't just isolate verse 12 and put meaning to it without taking verse 13.

Paul says in Philippians 2:13, "For it is God which works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." The word "works in you" is the word energizing. For it is God who is continually energizing in you both to will, and to energize of His good pleasure whatever He thinks best!

It's His energy. Whenever He wants to energize my spirit for His Spirit to work in me, it's all according to His good pleasure. It doesn't have anything to do with my good pleasure. I'm just a vessel. So I'm to be continually involved in having my salvation worked out because it's God who is working it out.

As for your other question, being confident in salvation does not mean that I should disregard any part of scripture. I remain confident in my salvation because I am trusting in the one who has saved me, the one who has promised to never leave me, and the one who is keeping me saved by His power alone. I can't keep myself saved. And no, I do not believe I can go out and sin all I want to because my salvation is permanent. My role is to submit and surrender to Christ. The only thing I had to contribute to my salvation was the sin to which I needed to be saved from. Jesus Christ has saved me. He has given me eternal life. If that can be lost, then it is not eternal!

Which dead are GOD preferring to is it spiritually dead or like die natural dead?

Actually, I am describing every person, saved or not. Peter was saved at the time he visited the churches in Gentile areas and chose to eat with the Jews of the congregation separate from the Gentiles, whereas before he had eaten with te Gentiles. Paul called him out on this, because Peter knew better. He willfully sinned to look good in front of the Jews from Jerusalem.

Yes, we are "witnesses in what we say and what we do". Our witness should show the goodness of Jesus, the desirability of doing what is right, and the positive effects of living for Jesus and not for sin. Our good "works" follow our justification through faith in Jesus. We have been given a brand new nature by the indwelling Spirit that was not in us before conversion. That is why we are called to walk in the Spirit (who will never lead us to sin) and you (we) shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh (sinful nature) Galatians 5:16)

Paul speaks prior to this verse of the liberty we are called to: "but do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh (and excuse to sin), but in love serve one another. for all the law is fulfilled in one word (love), even in this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

Paul says in Galatians 3:13 that "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us" He did not redeem us from the law, because the law is good. Paul says that: the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ (showing us our need for salvation because we could not be justified by keeping the law, because, unequivocally, no one but Christ kept all of the law), But after faith as come, we are no longer under a tutor." (being guided to God by the law). Galatians 3:24

Paul taught those who are redeemed and justified by faith, are not to take our freedom in Christ to continue to sin without concern. We are to take our freedom in Christ to use the Power of the Holy spirit to live God's way, doing what is good and shows the love of Christ to others.

Bro Dan,

Sorry for the late reply. I was away and just saw the questions you sent. I'll respond to the 2 verses you sent. First of all, Hebrews 10:26. This is one of the verses that is used by those who believe salvation can be lost. But I do not see anything there that tells me salvation can be lost. In all the verses in Hebrews chapter 10, beginning from verse 1, the writer, whoever that might be, is speaking to Hebrew people. He is showing them the superiority of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ over the sacrificial system of Judaism.

After the writer has presented his case that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ is far superior than their Jewish way of sacrificing, In Hebrews 10:26, the writer is telling these Hebrew people that if they turn away and go back to into Judaism, they are not going to find any sacrifice there that is going to take care of their sin problem if they reject Christ and His sacrifice. (There is no other sacrifice for sin).

A person who has "received the knowledge of the truth" does not mean that person is saved. Hebrews 6:4 also speaks about an "enlightened" person. People also use this verse to prove you can lose your salvation. But again, an enlightened person does not mean a saved person. A person can be enlightened to the truth, they can receive the knowledge of the truth, but if that person does not surrender their life to Jesus Christ, that knowledge and enlightenment means nothing.

These people were being enlightened to the truth about Christ. They received the knowledge. But instead of surrendering to Christ, they were turning away and going back into Judaism. It was much easier for them to do that than to surrender their life to Christ. Surrendering to Christ meant severe persecution, so they were turning away. No salvation there to be lost because they turned away without surrendering to Christ.

I'm running out of space. I'll respond to the other verse you mention ( Philippians 2:12) and your other questions in a second post.

Bro Dan Thanks Bro The battle field is The mind and as It says in Proverbs keep your heart with all diligence out of

it are the issues of life. Also God wins with renewed Mind, the enemy wins old man nature bottom line get honest make up your mind! God Bless

GiGi, sounds like you are describing people before they are saved, maybe they were never saved just say the are.

Back in 1 Thess. 4 is your answer. Those who've FALLEN ASLEEP, are deceased believers in Jesus. They received Him as Savior while they were alive; and testified that they had done so.

When Jesus comes to get all his Saints; those asleep rise up First to meet Jesus in the Clouds.

Next, all those believers who are alive, are raised to meet Jesus in the clouds.

Our bodies have been changed and Jesus takes us to Heaven immediately. There will be no more sorrow or pain.

It's going to be fast. That's why we must be ready now.

Hello,

I agree that believers are to endeavor to live godly lives, saying no to sin, and yes to wat is good and right according to what as been revealed in God's moral law. Jesus said that those who truly love Him will obey His commandments (written in the Law given to Moses). He summed these up by saying Loving God with all of our hearts, soul, mind, and body and loving our neighbor as ourselves. Those who claim to be in Christ and continue to live sinful, worldly lives sow that they do not love Jesus. They may say it is o.k. because they are under grace not Law. But Scripture plainly says:

"For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness (sin) and worldly lusts (worldly desires), we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present age, looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from every deed (sin) and purify for Himself His own special people, zealous for good works."

Titus:11-14

Many churches today do not exhort their members to stop sinning (that blaspheme the Word of God Titus 2:5) instead live obedient lives (that glorify God). Sin is downplayed so much in this generation that most people do not think it is as deadly as it is in all forms. We should want to do what is of life, not what is of death, because God has sown us mercy and given us grace in Jesus Christ.

BORN AGAIN

You are not born again, until you depart this body of flesh, up until departing this body of flesh ,you are a WOMAN IN TRAVAIL, waiting to be DELIVERED.

You can have KNOWLEDGE of being born again, but it doesn't happen, until we are relieved of this flesh and blood body.

Revelation 12:2 And she (WOMAN) being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be DELIVERED.

1 Timothy 2:13 And Adam (Christ) was first formed, then Eve (WOMAN) (Christ bride, which includes both the male and female in God's creation).

1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam (Christ) was not deceived, but WOMAN (males and females) being deceived, was in the transgression.

1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding, she (WOMAN)(both male and female) shall be SAVED in CHILDBEARING....Giving birth to Son's of God. The exactness of Christ.

Brother David,

I agree with your entire post, and you nailed it when you said; "This is where the enemy tricks many christians out of there spiritual walk and inheritance."

Well said 100%. Amen!

God Bless

Amen Brother Cowboy, We need to stay prayed up - I like that!!

God Bless.

Paul 's words: "I die daily." May mean many things. It may refer to the fact that we sin daily, and sin is always deadly. Therefore, we repent daily and confess to God that we need forgiveness. Then we rise daily, having been restored to life.

It can mean that daily we are crucified with Christ, and daily we rise to life inn Christ. It could mean that daily we crucify the sinful nature and allow the life of Christ to reign in our life.

I, too, believe it is a daily commitment to die to sin and live for Christ. This allows to walk by the Spirit of God and not by the fleshly, sinful nature. Whatever you feed, grows stronger, as some say.

Hello, willful sin is a conscious decision to do something you know is wrong. For example: tell a lie, steal something from another person, assault another person, curse at another person, etc. People can also sin in ways we are not aware of: doing what is right from mixed motives (to obey God out of love and to impress others wit our good works at the same time) or harboring unloving feelings for others such as: anger, jealousy, coveting, unforgiveness. There are other examples. In the one instance: we know what we ought to do, and don't do it, or know what we should not do and do it.

In the other, we are unaware that what we are doing or saying or thinking or desiring is wrong.

Please pray for me my family our property and our neighborhood that the drugdealer neighbors in the neighborhood would be driven out forever in Jesus's name.

Haha, I have some sticky keys, especially "h". Sorry about the errors. I'll have to get my computer whiz son to come over and service my laptop. He can build, repair, retrieve data from computers, create code, all of that computer science stuff. Way beyond me.

God bless you!

Sister Sacha, I believe the DAY, of neither light or dark, began at Pentecost and will continue until Christ has put all things under his feet, then the EVENING will BE LIGHT, and he will turn the Kingdom back to the Father who gave it to him, and GOD (LIGHT) will be ALL IN ALL.

Good Morning Mishael,

Good post. I think that Adam an d Eve's DNA and was unflawed. This DNA and had no mutations. This DNA did possess the genes to express variety in skin color, eye color, hair texture, etc. (Things we associate wit "race", although I believe we are all one race, with some distinct genetic variations in certain groups). I agree that the confusion of languages at Babel prompted people to group together according to language, and then these group migrated together to all parts of the earth. At the time of Babel the earth masses (continents) may have been more closely connected than they are now and began to drift apart in the time of Peleg, which says that the earth was divided during is lifetime.

When people began to live in language groups and interbred within these groups, certain genetic characteristics began to emerge as dominant genes. This most likely was how groups began to arise wit lighter or darker skin color, etc. Blue eyes are said to have emerged from a mutation in a man in the Caucasus mountain area. These people from the Caucasus area populated much of Europe and the blue eye mutation continued to be expressed in certain groups, as they continued to migrate across Europe. Green eye color (mine) is the rarest of color. Grey and amber eyes are also rarer than blue. Brown is the overwhelming dominant eye color in humans.

I have not done any DNA testing personally. China processes those tests and is collecting DNA from across the world. China, so, I do not want China to have my DNA information. I believe that China is doing tis in order to create deadly viruses that target certain DNA groups. Evil, evil, evil!

I do believe all kinds of cloning is going on of both humans, and animals, present day and extinct(think Jurassic Park). This is being done in clandestine ways. They may be even manipulating DNA to make hybrids. Evil, evil, evil!

CRT is meant to divide and people along racial lines pit one race against another, fostering hate.

Brother Earl,

I believe the same observation could be of many church-going folks, the building with whatever name that's put on it has become the church, not the people, lost in routines, many are called but few are chosen. It is sad when attendance is put above all. When Jesus first came was for the lost sheep of Israel, and to fulfill the law and the prophets. To confirm and fulfill the first and confirm the New in, the likeness of sinful flesh, what we see in Daniel 9:27 that many put at the end time.

I agree hell is not a place for the condemned and paradise is not a place for the righteous as holding places of the dead. I have not found one verse that say we go to heaven. In Revelation 20:14 we see the last enemy; death and its holding place hell (the grave) are cast into the lake of fire. In scripture when we die the grave is our home of corruption and if the same Spirit dwell in us, we will be raised by the Spirit that raised Christ, in incorruption in our immortal glorified body, death is swallowed up in victory.

When Jesus first came the land was highly influenced by Greco-Roman philosophy. Whether we believe it or not it still has influence on today, the meaning of death, immortal souls, monasticism that Jesus called Nicolaitans, and more.

As we see in Matthew 16 and Matthew 18 Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom and what is bound or loosed in earth will be done so in heaven. The reason of all the parables was the mysteries of the kingdom was not for them to know but for those who were chosen.

I agree in most of your post but if I understand correctly those after resurrection being brought into the fold. I struggle lining that up with the white throne judgment of the rest of the dead. Revelation 20:11-15. These are not all lost people, there will be some not cast into the lake of fire because the book of life is opened and only those not written in it will be cast in to the lake of fire.

Have a great day and God bless,

RLW

God Bless Matilda Your answer 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18. The Hope of The Return. Praise God

Sister Sacha, I believe we start in TOTAL DARKNESS (no knowledge of God) and we end in TOTAL LIGHT (full knowledge of God).

Zechariah 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:

Zechariah 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, or night: but it shall come to pass, that at EVENING TIME IT SHALL BE LIGHT.

Sister Sacha, I have heard you say, through you written comments, God reveals new truths to you every day.

If this not happening to ALL OF US, then we are not getting enough food and water (that's a parable).

We ought to have this happening, up until the day we depart this world.

Sister Sacha, thank you and God blessings on you.

We as, the called out, don't at this point see everything alike, because we are at different stages of maturity. There is a day COMING when we will all be in PERFECT UNITY.

I keep seeing comments about willful sin, what is willful sin, is it different than regular sin.

Good morning again. There is a nice song ready to listen to on the November 19 update on the Haiti kidnapping.

Google Christian Aid Ministries, at the top of the page click on the update and it will take you to the page. At the bottom of the page is the link to the song dedicated to Jesus Christ by the songwriter. Ambassadors in His health, we can pray that their message is true.

:)

Thank you so much Earl . You and I don't agree on everything but we have more in common than not if you know what I mean . I despise it when I hear so called preachers in my local town centre , aaaaall they do is insult people and preach that God is going to send them all to hell , even people who have never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel are going to hell to be tortured for eternity by some pointy tailed cloven hoofed monstrosity of their own vicious imagination . It drives me crazy , no one ever stops to listen to them or talk to them except me . They've got my number now though , when I walk towards them to ask them to show me where they are getting their info from they try to run away from me , it's easy for them to do that as I need crutches to walk outside . The first few times I managed to engage them and one of them looked embarrassed because he couldn't back up anything he was saying from scripture , the second was gobsmaked by this middle aged woman who could run rings around him and the third actually put his hand on my face to push me away and called me a devil . Preachers of lies and hate and fear . We only need to fear One and that is God , the Holy One of Israel . Christ is coming , you had better know what you believe in and it had better be the Bible , Old as well as New .

Brother Dan

AMAN Vary well stated for Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. If Paul die daily what makes us so special are we better than Paul do we not need to die daily also. To die daily is to repent daily the old sinful man must die daily so the new man in Christ Jesus can live. If you do not repent daily than sin will build up in your live. And the old sinful man will take in your life again. Sometimes we sin without knowing it because of that old Adam's nature. We do things and not realizing that we have sinned. Therefore, we as Christians must repent are die daily.

God Bless

Stay prayed up and ready to go up

cowboy