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Yes, Rick;

I've been blessed to see my dear son grow up (now 34) instead of dying from newborn sepsis. so, yes, God delivered Him. He could have taken him to Him, also. I had prayed in the hall that I will accept His will either way because my son really was His, not ultimately mine.

Sis Its a privilege to communicate with and know you, you talk with your heart.

Rick

As far as what is recorded in Scripture, baptism was not discussed at the council in Jerusalem. All of the apostles baptized new believers in water. It was not a part of the O.T. law.

Amen and Amen, Brother Jesse!

Thanks! I, personally, enter conversations hoping to share ideas and glean from one another what is of value. It isn't in me to be contentious or participate in silly disagreements. But I do care to comment when the topic speaks to the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. I just hope I have not offended anyone. I am aware of the power of words. What the speaker intends as just speaking their positions, others may take as a challenge. I don't wish to challenge anyone, but to reason together in the Lord.

Sis Wasn't looking for that sounds like great deliverance amen.

Amen, Yah bless you Faustino Wilson. I am glad Yah has turned things around for you. Yah says to wait on The Lord. I say wait, wait upon The Lord.

The only man that was God as well is Jesus. But Jesus told us we actually had a chance to be a God if we lived as he did, without sin, perfectly. No one did this, so no one is God but God( In three persons father, son, holy spirit)

Thanks Rick, but I don't think I need to explain anymore than that my pastor and a fellow believer in my congregation laid hands on me a prayed for me to differs, more empowerment from the Holy Spirit. Everyone's experience of this different, but it did the done in a biblical way. you are welcome to search my post where I laid hands on my newborn son who was very ill spoke words to him that the Spirit gave me to say to him. There was an instant change in his circumstances, and he recovered. The nurses had said that he was shutting down and they could not get into his veins to get a draw and do a spinal tap. His skin was all mottled blue and pink and he was breathing shallowly. !the moment I laid my hand on his chest and spoke to him, his skin returned to normal coloring, his veins opened up, and his breathing returned to normal. All the staff noticed it. So, there you go! Praise God! I do not claim to have a gift of healing, or any other gifts that would be considered "signs and wonders". I just do what I'm moved to do in circumstances. God does the rest.

Have a wonderful night, Rick. It has been good "talking" with you today.

Petey, I give you words of encouragement and prayer. Drugs can be a horrible thing to have to experience or deal with. There truly are demons behind it all. But we know that Yahweh can speak and they must go. He can clean a person up and change their life. Yahweh I come before you in need of your miracle working power. Petey's son have been greatly afflicted by drugs. It has caused him to be angry at everyone. Yahweh this is not what was meant to be for your child. So I ask you to extend your hand, speak your word, blow your breath upon him. Change his life Yah. I do ask this in the name of Jesus.

Yahweh I come before you on the behalf of Sharon. She is struggling with her weight and eating habits, mainly sugar. I ask that you transform her mind so that she is able to lose 60 pounds and come to a healthy weight so that she can better serve you. Keep her strong doing this process. It won't be easy, and it won't be quick. But with patience and endurance it is possible. I ask this in the name of Jesus, Amen.

Great reply Brother Jesse.

God bless you and all you do.

Hi Edna This is an indication of how far out Israel or Judean beliefs got away from the scripture and how blinded the adversary had them, many times we read in the gospels it is written by the prophets or Jesus Christ himself. Now the scribes and pharisees and sadducees new the scripture but used to there advantage corrupt.

Hi Jesse It always amuses me that they still didn't get it, but then I ask would I have. By the way good stuff!

Hi ChrisE This is a situation where we talk about the spiritual water of the word but to drink it in not to dunk.LOL

Joy Someone got to get Honest and make a commitment, I'm not the judge I just know Him.

Gigi Hello again I know a man who was struck with an illness he couldn't keep down food at all sent to hospital and was going down fast a believer went in and prayed for him, left called up another believer who was into homeopathic stuff, she went in and started slowly feeding him black strap molasses and one herb, two days later he walked out recovered. I also know a leader that when three mile island in pa. nuclear facility had big problems went there they ask why do you want in he point blank said I'm hear to pray for this to stop. They left him in it did. See these things aren't coincidental they are displayed power available to the believers in our day and time. We are taught to believe by action then see not I'll believe when i see, that's a cop out. God Bless got to go for now Remember your Gods best and the devils pest. LOL

Gigi There is only one belief system or religion in the world that the all truth was made known that is Christianity and everything that a person has been given when born again. In all other religions there are higher levels of belief, so many steps where this or that get closer to higher power, holy water?, climb this holy mountain, chant this long, you name it and in th Church epistle Paul address it all. Paul's calling card was not just what he said, 1 Corinthians 1:4 demonstration of spirit and of power the word power [dunamis spiritual ability displayed]. Ephesians 1:19 exceeding greatness of His dunamis in us you and me who believe. Question you said you were ministered to laying on of hands is what I understand is God telling me first to move to get information on whether the problem is physical or spiritual and what to do, actually this fits into the category of word of knowledge information of whats going on, word of wisdom action to carry out to solve the problem. These people on tv. no dice its a great counterfeit because it is not guessing at all it is not analytical.

Page two coming.

Hi David.

Thanks for asking.

" 2 Timothy 2:15. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

The word of God is a skilled collection of Books engineered by the Holyspirit. It has dispensation, structure, and collaborating when all said and done a single message.

Therefore rightfully dividing the word is to consider the whole counsel of God and not deviate from that message.

That's how I take the verse.

God bless.

Edna, here is (Part 2)

John chapter 6 is all a picture from God of symbolism, or metaphorical use if you will, about the salvation message. It is not just about believing that Jesus died for you, and shed His blood for you, but you must take Him in, spiritually. You must feed on Christ spiritually. He is the bread of life!

How we chase after things in the human, we think "Oh I am missing out in life because I don't have these things?" Do you have Christ? Oh yeah. Then we are pursuing the things in the flesh, because in the spirit, we will never hunger and never thirst because we are fellowshipping with and feeding on the bread of life constantly.

So Jesus is presenting Himself as that Lamb, Jewish symbolism! It is not something that you just believe about. It is someone that you take in. So He says no more physical miracles of feeding you with physical food.

Now it's all spiritual. Now you must be satisfied with me. I am the bread of life, not the physical bread, but the spiritual bread. And from now on you must feed on me and if you feed on me you will live.

Verse 63 is key. It says "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

The word quickeneth means make alive. It is the spirit that makes alive, the flesh profits nothing: Did you catch that? There is no spiritual benefit in the flesh. Zero! The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

They are not physical. It is spirit. It is not physical life, it is spiritual life. So He says everything that I just told you about my flesh, and my blood, take that and change it into spiritual metaphors and you'll have what it means.

I hope what I've shared helps.

Hello Edna,

Something to keep in mind is that it wasn't the miracles they came to see. They came because their bellies were being fed and they wanted more. In John 6:48, Jesus calls Himself the bread of life. But go back to verse 31. They say to Jesus "Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat." You see, they wanted more physical food.

Then in Verse 49, Jesus says "Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead." So do you want to bring in the manna gift thing again? God provided physical food for them but they are dead!" In verse 50, Jesus says "This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die." Jesus is not referring to His physical body. He's speaking about spiritual nourishment.

But the Jews are really perplexed by this. In fact, that's the reason and the teaching why multitudes of these people left. Remember, these are the 15,000 to 20,000 people that were fed the day before. And now they are listening and they think He's talking about cannibalism.

What does He mean? He goes on to explain it to the disciples, but He doesn't explain it to the public. His words are spirit and they are life. It is not flesh. When He says "Eat of my flesh and drink of my blood," we have to think about it from a Jewish perspective.

Remember when Jesus was introduced to Israel, He was introduced as the Lamb of God who would take away the sin of the world? In the book of Exodus, it wasn't just the blood over the door posts that saved a household from the Angel of death, in order for the Angel of death to Passover. Yes, there had to be blood on the door posts. But one of the requirements was that the lamb from whom the blood came, you had to eat that lamb, and eat every bit of it that night, nothing left over. You had to actually participate with the lamb whose blood is on your door post.

I'm running out of space and will have to send a part 2.

Thank you for the heart felt prayer!!!!!!

And I believe that the Holy Spirit has guided and kept the church through the ages. I do not think that I am more knowledgeable or true in doctrine than those who worked alongside the apostles and bishops (Who the apostles chose and laid hands upon to commission them). God appointed them to be leaders of the church, and we should honor them as such, considering what they have written (thankfully we have some of their writings still) and comparing it to God's word, just like we are doing with each other. I just happen to believe that these early bishops and leaders of the church knew much better what was being taught and practiced in the early church than we could ever know and I think their theology was most likely much more accurate than ours. You are right, Scripture isn't for private interpretation. One should not neglect what has been said about Scripture from the early years up to now. God has placed many godly teachers along the journey.

It seems that we probably differ quite a bit on our view on this, so I do think that we have done well in wrestling with each others ideas (in a healthy way) in a discerning manner. I am ready to let this thread of conversation go for now. I trust that the Holy Spirit will work in each of us what truth He wants us to know from this.

Blessings, Brother.

Hello, Rick

I think the same, we are Christians not hyphenated-Christians, say, Baptist-Christian. Lutheran-Christian, born again-Christian, spirit-filled -Christian, non-denominational-Christian. I believe that God places us into the body of believers He knows will be best; sometimes for a long time, sometimes for a short time.

Hi Edna It's amazing to me that 12 stuck around of course God knew, this guy spoke and did more miraculous things in a day then perhaps we'll see in a lifetime, they didn't know it was figurative that's why some left because they thought he lost it. But as peter said thou hast taught us the words of life and all Jesus Christ actions and works were life giving just like His Father's. At that time he was talking about the future holy communion, and after they were born again they understood.

Hi phillip You got to love the fact that God new if someone would be sent to nineveh they would believe because God



doesn't do anything haphazardly specifically making a living submarine for Jonah and like you said right place right time. The same in our lives as we believe and walk, God will deliver right place and time. Thanks phillip

Phillip The statement that God gave permission is really true because the enemy has to work within the boundaries that God set up, when The true God lifts his hand of grace and protection the enemy goes to work. Everytime the children of Israel rebelled and went after idolatry even after all the warnings Gods hands were tied because of their choice of sin witch eventually leads to destruction and death. When they rebelled and murmured against moses same deal.

Explain the 7th plague of the tabernacle of the 10 commandments

pray for me to be closer to god ,and help my finance my children my home . my grandson damonte. bless me to get married again to this people if its in god will.

Jesus does not do evil things