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Earl Again pulled out of Context.

Brother Earl,

Regarding the issue of man having a freewill. You stated to Brother Adam: "it isn't that God couldn't give man free will if he wanted to, it's just that there is nowhere in God's word that it says he gives man free will."

You are gravely mistaken. Please read this scripture showing God giving man the freewill to choose:

Deuteronomy 30:15-19

15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;

16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;

18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.

19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live.

This scripture above is a very clear example of God setting forth the free choice for (the Israelites) a freewill to make a choice of life or death!

God continues to give man a freewill and a choice between Life and Death! Let's hope this clarifies the freewill issue for you.

Read and Believe!

God Bless.

The vaccines categorically do NOT alter your DNA nor are they made from DNA. They use mRNA, Messenger Ribonucleic Acid. MRNA basically instructs your cells to produce a piece of a foreign cell, in this case the spike protein that is part of the COVID19 virus. At that point your immune system does its job and destroys the proteins and the mRNA and retains a "memory" of the protein and the next time it encounters that protein your body can overcome it.

This process is something that happens in your body naturally every day.

There is no mention of DNA in the bible because the authors had no knowledge of it. Eating a piece of fruit does not alter your DNA just as eating a piece of meat or a cookie or a glass of wine does not. The "apple" mentioned in Genesis is just a literary device and a pretty weak one at that.

How did Cain"s wife come in the picture, if Cain and Abel where the only people on the planet from from their parents, Adam and Eve?

How do you know if you are being lured into a cult ?

If they promise you something?

It could be friendship , security, belonging, etc ?

Hi Beatrice When I consider what Gods word says about this man it is beyond remarkable , he knew the judean law inside out he was a pharisee of pharisee figure of speech the top in His class taught under Gamaliel this guy before born again green beret special forces working for the enemy out of ignorance but absolutely committed to God and His Word under the law. Imagine His mind hearing we no longer have to live by the law his mind was who the Hell do you think you are disobeying my God.

When Jesus Christ appeared to Him God knew there was no other way to convince this man also Jesus Christ never beat Him up instead Hey bub why are you doing this. The shock must have been beyond belief and the quilt I can't imagine, no wander he went into the desert after being born again to talk to God and say whats going on. like our change His also was not over night.

In Galatians 1:15-19 after 3 years he shows up to talk to the leaders in Jerusalem that had to blow there minds the change, then this guy starts witnessing to gentiles and fellowships with converted jews, how many do you think he fellowshipped with that he may have murdered family members. Talk about a spiritual leader, this guy was given all the needed information from Romans to Thessalonians on the operation of The Body of Christ in this the Age of Grace and how to walk in that as individuals. There will never be another Paul what an example to follow, what George Patton was in the Army, this man was for Gods Plan fearless and unstoppable. I've only scratched surface. God Bless

Doesn't the scripture says to us be perfect for I AM perfect? If God is perfect yet a jealous God, also vengeful & hates those who hate him yet shows mercy, shall we not be the same way? Also the scriptures shows us that God has killed whole nations of people. Is this character to be imitated in mankind? If not, why does God allow wars & causalities? The scripts says something of our selfishness. But isn't God a entity that will not share it's glory with another?

Don't worryyou still got it girl! You cheered me up.

I'm smiling, sittin in the sunshine with hot apple juice. Hmmm God is good and Jesus is wonderful

Is it the will of the God of Israel for people do do evil also? If not why does God allow it?

Brother David, you made a profound statement in your last sentence.

I do believe God's will, will come to pass absolutely but on his terms.

Is not what you said, exactly what this scripture says:

Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure (or HIS WILL).

God grace us as we mature IN CHRIST, God bless you.

Today would be a good to view TWO PREACHERS on youtube. Disasters that have happened in just the past few months!

People from those countries send their cell phone videos in to T.P. Website.

Turkey and China are really being hit hard; Pakistan and Philippines even worse.

Cold weather is upon the USA between now and Thanksgiving. Get your Turkey along with Salt for walkways (if you live north and east). Don't forget the macaroni :D

Rick, I concur with you on this. I was just reading last night on the of free will vs. total depravity. It seems that the Early church taught that man has a free will either to choose to obey God or disobey, but the Gnostic sects taught that some man (and physical matter) was totally corrupted and unable to to choose obedience to God. This teaching of the Gnostics resurfaced in later centuries, especially after the Reformation, with Calvin and Luther teaching the total depravity of man and this teaching prevails in sects of Protestantism. It was interesting to read the quotes from Clement who was a partner of Paul, and Ignatius and Polycarp (who where disciples of John),support the teaching (Doctrine) of man's free will to obey or disobey, arguing in order for rewards or punishments to be just, there must be freedom to choose good and evil.

That said, we know that no man can be justified by works. God justifies the sinner through the righteousness of Jesus.

But in the here and now of day to day life, I believe mankind has a free will to obey or not, whether a believer or not. yet, our ability to willfully choose obedience has been corrupted by the power of sin, but not fully erased. Some will argue the other side of this doctrine. I am o.k. with that. Balancing the sovereignty of God with the mankind having free agency is a difficult topic to resolve with so many Scriptures that support either position. And thus is the crux of this matter, the Scripture, which is true and does not contradict itself, presents support for both, so I believe we need to not be absolutely dogmatic either way, but instead admit that some things remain in the counsels of God.

This could be useful. "You (us) shall know the truth, and the truth sets us free." I'm thinking that: Not people, but spirits are on assignment in a room dedicated to Gods Word: the King James Bible.

So like last night I was about to go to bed, and the Holy Spirit said "contention".

If we read Psalms enough, we will see that King David occasionally was victim temporarily to sadness, anger at enemies, King Sauls relentless pursuit and many other issues. We work this stuff out by prayer and sometimes speaking the truth in the spirit of love, for the brethren.

Here is the origin of the spirit of contention. We need to recognize it's been busy in here for weeks. Lord, make me an instrument of Your Peace. Amen. Let's let the Spirit of Christ rule over our hearts.

Spirit of Jealousy: Manifestations:

Revenge-Spite, Anger-Rage, Jealousy, Hatred, Cruelty, Strife, Contention, Competition, Envy, Cause Divisions Scriptures; murder

( Genesis 4:4-6; 37:3,4,8; Proverbs 6:34; 10:12; 13:10; 14:16-17,29-30; 22:24-25; 27:4; 29:22-23; Numbers 5:14,30; 1 Thessalonians 4:8; Song of Solomon 8:6; Galatians 5:19)

Roots... "The Works of the Flesh," Galatians 5:19-21.

"By their fruits you will know all men," Matthew 7:20. According to Matthew 6:10; 11:12; 12:29; 16:18; 18:18; 28:18

BIND= Spirit of jealousy

LOOSE= Love of God, 1 Corinthians 13; Ephesians 5:2

Testimony: as a kid I lived in a household divided some ways. Me and my Dad were placid and peaceful. He was full-blood Cajun. I was a negotiator. My sister, the silent one. The others were fighting lots. Dynamics awful to live in. But you learn skills that are useful later on.

Michael the Archangel and Satan (a fired Archangel) contended for the body of Moses. Michael said, "THE LORD REBUKE THEE." Satan let go.

We have to recognize it for what it is. Let's all pray for these Comment Rooms. Lift them up and ask the Lord to bless them; attract unbelieving seekers of salvation in Peace.

Hello Carol The context of the conversation is about stewardship of things Given by God and responsibility for that which has been given. Talents were actually a measurement of payments by money exchange at that time, but the teaching was about stewardship.

Brother Adam, it isn't that God couldn't give man free will if he wanted to, it's just that there is nowhere in God's word that it says he gives man free will. Man make CHOICES, which is an EFFECT of a CAUSE.

There is never a Cause without there being an EFFECT. There can't be an EFFECT without there first being CAUSE.

The CAUSE, His words were spoken before the foundation of the world. Those words are being fulfilled in the exact order he spoke. You were predestined to do every thing that has happen in your life, good and bad, At this very moment you are in THE PLACE God ordained you to be. This time tomorrow you will be in exactly THE PLACE God ordained you to be. YOU ARE BEING CREATED IN CHRIST. We grow in maturity. CHRIST will not fail in what he was sent to do. Not everyone was called to come to truth in this age, some are vessels of honour and some vessels of dishonour, IN THIS AGE. There is more AGES to come. Those resurrected back to their flesh will at some point in time be brought to TRUTH. They had no Free Will to be anything other than what God had PURPOSED.

God's word says Satan was a LIAR and a MURDERER from the BEGINNING. Man doctrine teaches Satan was a PERFECT ANGEL from the BEGINNING.

THIS CONTRADICTS, in other words it makes one of those two a LIE, and God's word does not lie.

Isaiah 54:16 ....I have created the waster to destroy.

God created a waster to destroy, if this creation isn't Satan then who is it.

1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such a one unto Satan for the DESTRUCTION (waster to destroy) of the flesh, that the SPIRIT MIGHT BE SAVED in the day of the Lord.

Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, it (FLESH) has to be DESTROYED.

Many (ALL) are on the road to destruction (waster to destroy), FEW find the WAY. If you (FLESH) are destroyed, then you are no LONGER ON THE ROAD TO DESTRUCTION, but off the the road and on the WAY to IMMORTAL LIFE.

God Bless you.

Brother Rick,

Regarding the word "Gift" verses "Favor" as mentioned in an earlier post, these terms have been interchanged and argued by the biblical scholars and are related to the various language translations. If it is as you say simply a gift, all that believe - will go to Heaven. Not wanting to beat a dead horse, but the devil and his demons believe - are they going to heaven? We both know the answer, so it requires more than just believing, and this is talked about by Jesus and his apostles throughout the NT.

I'm glad that we do agree that "just believing" is not "a free ticket to salvation". So then, it also takes obedience, so we can't just say "we believe" and continue to live our old lives (live in sin), we are Born Again - to live new lives, and we must struggle as Paul states in various scripture. Many do not believe Paul when he states the following scripture:

Hebrews 10:26

"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Galatians 6:7

"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

Philippians 2:12

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."

So if you believe Apostle Paul, we will need to participate in our own salvation! It is not just "a Gift" that we receive - no matter what we do. Many people today pick and choose some of Pauls scripture that will approve their current lifestyle, but they will ignore Pauls additional scripture - if it does not help to confirm their lifestyle. When they hear all of the "feel good preachers" telling them they can keep their current worldly lifestyle and still receive salvation - they jump right on board that train!!!!

All of the scripture tells us we "must believe" and "be obedient" to receive our salvation.

Happy Sabbath Day and God Bless.

Earl Its your privilege to believe what you believe and showing verses to prove a point when other verses don't say the same point makes the conversation null and void that being the case I'm on to a different subject matter. God Bless Remember a man convinced against His Will is of the same opinion still.

Dear Sascha;

I am glad to hear your response to my concern and that you have not been wounded in the way I put forth. Being wounded by a person who has been a spiritual leader is difficult. It happens often, unfortunately. I agree that anyone can learn from God in all of the ways He brings truth to us; whether by individual study, study with a spouse of friend, a bible study group, a sermon, articles and books in print, teaching from online resources, dreams, visions, life circumstances, etc. Yet, with all of this, the Words of Scripture should back up and uphold and teaching before we accept it as unchanging truth.

As always, God's blessing to you and your loved ones today.

Hi Grace Isn't it amazing how Jesus Christ heals a man that you know they knew and when they saw him he was in his right mind and clothed, where did he get the clothing? But the people like you shared weren't concerned at all about miracle or ask questions basically got angry and ask Jesus to Leave. No humility or meekness or curiosity, I would probably have been shocked but I think I would have asked how did you do that. I believe in our day and time if God would work like that which he does most people wouldn't believe it, so to me nothing has changed.

I commented on Demons/Devils being cast into swine. It's over in Discussions Room.

God Bless, Mishael

Hi Adam I totally love the common sense logic you apply in certain categories in conversation, lets keep focused and not go off the deep end mentally that God can do everything and anything because he can't. My examples He cannot lie, he doesn't control us, he's not an indian giver so to speak, he's not going to change all the laws i.e. gravity and physics and others just to fit what others think he should do. He can do great things when we work in His Realm according to His Word.

Who is this mighty God You shared a great statement in Jeremiah 2:13 For my people have committed two evils they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters[ John 4:9-14] and have hewed them out cisterns broken cisterns that can hold no water elevated vain thoughts against the knowledge of Gods Word Romans 1: [imaginations contrary to it is written] in verse 19 it says there own wickedness not anything that God did. When we turn to the Living God that is what he gives Life. His works and His Word are indeed great and we who believe are made up of both.

Has anyone taken vaccine and recommended it.

I want to be loving.

This mandate is cruel. Does anyone think vaccine is the mark of beast? I dont think you should take anything that mandates you to get it in order to buy and sell.

Sister Sacha, it says in verse 5 Jesus was in Capernaum, but in verse 28, it says Jesus was in the country of Gergesenes, I think this was probably a gentile country, that why there was swine in the country.

I like you comments about the blessing we receive when our EYES SEE God's creation and when his POWER is displayed.

Hi Mishael Personally I get a kick out of your post, I don't really comment on actions on the spiritual side much because most people do not believe the way He functions. I have brothers and sisters in the word who say I would like to experience something like that to which I've said point blank no you don't because its not a game. Years ago I was involved in a situation where an individual and I quote got so strong they ripped a steering column out of a car, some one at a church said they had a personallity change, I explained it scripturally they didn't believe it. That individual was put in a psych ward never to be seen again. My hands were tied from trying to help. Like you share this is a spiritual war and to arm your mind with IT IS WRITTEN know what you have in christ andf DON"T BUDGE!

Hi Brother Spencer,

Always nice to converse with you. You touched on a lot, and I will try to respond. I think you know what I mean when I say "plain people". God gave us His Written Word via the Bible so that a "regular person" can read/understand, and ultimately accept Jesus Christ as his savior. Yes, God's Holy Spirit is instrumental in the understanding/transformation of the Born Again Christian. This can all happen without the person becoming a Bible Scholar!

Accepting Jesus Christ as Savior, being baptized and recieveing the Holy Sprit, repenting from sin, and living a New Life is accoplished between the person, and God! So I beleieve we are in agreement, that God will accomplish the transformation through His Holy Spirit.

You stated the following:

"Here's The commandment Christ is speaking of- " John 15:12. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

I will say, It is more than just "one commandment" that Christ speaks about. The commandments are plural - more than one:

Matthew 22:38-40

35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets

Please Note: Jesus states on the above 2 commandments "hang all the law" and the prophets! Christ is not doing away with God's 10 commandments!

Jesus stated that the 1st and Greatest Commandment is to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. If we love God, as a good Christian, why wouldn't we try to follow his 10 commandments?

God Bless.

Hi Earl,

You wrote some controversial things there that sound close to blasphemy. Alarm bells should be sounding right now.

Is it possible that you have build a narrative around a few cherry picked verses? But how do you explain the multitude of other Bible verses that say the opposite of what your belief? It's like plucking out 1% of the verses that fit a certain interpretation and ignoring the 99% of the rest.

Have you prayed to God about your current belief if what you said is true or not, and have you received any confirmation? If so, how do you explain the countless others have prayed to God and have confirmation already that what you say is not true?

Let's analyze your 3 Bible verses you seem to assume supports your conclusion.

1. Daniel. Yes, God is powerful enough to do His will. He's also powerful enough to give us freewill to choose whether to do good or evil, or whether to follow Him or not. Do you not believe God is powerful or capable enough for that?

2. Isaiah. This doesn't mean what you assume it does. "Waster to destroy" - it sounds like you're assuming this means satan, but what if it means something else? Isa 21:2 says a waster wastes things. This is not a verse I've researched, but already it just sounds like quite a logical leap to draw such a big assumption from it. Angels like satan were cast out for sinning by their own choosing: 2 Peter 2:4, Luke 10:18

3. Jeremiah 23:12 - evil in this context means a natural evil or natural disaster or calamity.

Curious question: if you don't believe in freewill do you believe God forced you to write this against Himself? Do you feel you have any choices or responsibility in your life whatsoever, like choosing to order a hamburger instead of a chicken sandwich? God bless.

You are absolutely correct brother Dan . I do think that my faith in God and His Son has been strengthened by studying His word beyond the commandments . Also , if the simple commandments were the only things that we needed to help and encourage us then that's all God would have given us don't you think ? God knows how to keep us with Him , He knows that many of us are weak and lazy and easily distracted by this world , He knows how to strengthen and comfort us and that's why He gave us the Bible , which is more than the simple commandments , it is meat and drink to us and it is there for a purpose , God's purpose , or He wouldn't have given us it . You are correct , the basic message of salvation is very simple but some of us need a bit more food to sustain us in this life in these kingdoms of men that are horrifying and tempting at the same time . The more I read and hopefully understand the stronger my faith gets and my guess is that there are going to be some very trying times ahead for all of us . May God's Word keep us strong in Christ .