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Your Comment...what persuaded paul to make this statement. for i know whom i have believeth

Mark, I understand what you are saying, but Scripture reminds me what Jesus said about the Kingdom of God. It is "within you" and it is "not of this world".

"Kingdom Building" is one catch phrase in many churches nowadays. However, Jesus said that He will build the church, which I believe is His Kingdom on earth as it is in Heaven. He said He was going to prepare a place for us, a place for his church to live in. We are the Kingdom I believe. We are called to be obedient to what the Spirit has to say to the Church. I think it is good for every church congregation to study what Jesus' says to the churches in Revelations, and work on correcting what the Lord points out as problems that need to be rooted out to remain shining lights to the world of God's gospel of grace. Paul speaks of judgment beginning in the house of God first. May each person and every congregation put their house in order as the Spirit empowers them to work and do the will of God.

...It was Isaac's poor vision that allowed for this deception to be successful. God's will was accomplished despite the sins of many in the family. Esau, in the last hour, desired what he had not cared to have prior to this moment. He wanted the blessing even though he most likely didn't live his life in God's way. It seems that Jacob always had his eye on the prize, knowing its worth and perhaps the responsibility that accompanied it, having seen these in his father's life.

Since Isaac was 60 when the twins were born, the sons were probably at least 40, since that is the age that Esau was when he married the Hittite women and it was said that this plural marriage to non-kin aggrieved both Isaac and Rebekah. Isaac was over 100 years old at this time, but he did not die right away. He lived through all of the years that Jacob served Laban to purchase his wives Leah and Rachel, and for all of Jacob's 12 sons to be born. He lived to be 180 years old.

Esau hated Jacob for receiving the blessing instead of himself. He vowed to kill Jacob after his father has died. Luckily, Isaac lived decades longer after this event. When Esau heard his father instruct Jacob to not take a wife from the Canaanites, but from kin of Rebekah's brother, he went out and married Ishmael's daughter, Mahalath, knowing that his father was displeased with the Canaanite women. I think he tried to please his father by marrying one of Abraham's descendants through Ishmael, even though he kept his Canaanite wives.

Rebekah sends Jacob away to her brother, Laban's home, to escape what she heard Esau say about killing Jacob. She expected Isaac to die very soon and didn't want to lose both Isaac and Jacob together. She is weary, perhaps from trying to keep the family on the path that she knew God wanted for them. She was acting in the flesh, trying in her own strength and wisdom to keep God's plan intact. She was a wonderful, godly woman, but , like all of us, we fail, strive with God at times.

This is truly an interesting chapter, in that so much is revealed about the weaknesses of these members of this chosen family. I agree with many who said that God's will and prophecy will come to pass despite the sins of the very people directly involved with the fulfillment.

Isaac knew the prophecy that Jacob would be the son of promise, not Esau, but he favored Esau , and wished for him to receive the blessing of the firstborn. Perhaps he believed God would still bring about His will in this matter, even as he performed his duty as the father to bestow the blessing on his first-born. The men were twins. One was born first, but both were conceived at the same time. They were the exact same age.

Rebekah knew the prophecy, but saw that Isaac intended to give the blessing to Esau. She did favor Jacob, but she also wanted God's will to be done, too. Jacob probably knew the prophecy, and having easily bargained for the birthright from Isaac, he went along with his Mom's plan in order to fulfill the prophetic word concerning him being the son of promise, not Esau. Esau, did not value his birthright, and probably not the blessing so much until this time, when his father was about to die. He wanted one last good thig from his dad, something that was better than what Jacob would receive. He wanted to please his father with perhaps his final meal. He and his Dad had a close relationship, but now Isaac was nearly blind.

It is interesting that as fraternal twins, there was such a disparity between their physical resemblances. The differences were prominent and obvious. One was hairy, and red; the other not hairy and fair. Did one resemble their father more than the other? We do not know. But when it came down to this exact moment in this families history, these physical differences played a big part in the story. God made them so physically different so that Isaac, old, feeble and almost blind, would be able to tell them apart by feel...see more

Sorry I think I may have made a mistake LOL. Christie might belong to a different David. I hope some of y'all have a sense of humor and a little grace for a newcomer:-)

Millennium kingdom.

Part 6.

The Millennium will be the time when there will be the full manifestation of the glory, the power and the will of God over this earth. And all agree that this is not in evidence today. You'll not have hospitals, you'll not have graveyards, you'll not have the suffering nor broken hearts and lives when Christ is reigning on this earth. And it's an insult to my Lord to say that the Kingdom of Heaven is being built today and is in existence on this earth. When He is reigning you won't have the tragedy that presently exists throughout the world.

Millennium takes its label, is detailed in numerous passages including Revelation 20, Isaiah 65, and Ezekiel 40-48, among others. Ezekiel's detailed tour of the Millennial Temple virtually defies any skeptic's attempt to treat it allegorically.

1 John 2:27. Is not a verse we use to defy scripture. Any revelation from the Holyspirit should line up with Gods written word, and what Jesus taught.

John 14:26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

One can symbolize all the scripture and twist it to say what ever. This is Dangerously flawed!!

Jesus said MY sheep hear my voice, to follow another voice and turn from the call of the great shepherd then you're not his sheep.

Paul says Galatians 1:6-8. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

2 John 1:9-10.

Keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

Which some professing have erred concerning the faith.

God bless.

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Is good I like it

Apparently, there was both a birthright and a blessing to be received from the father to the son he chooses. Can anyone describe for me the difference?

My question is.... Wy King Herod wanted kill everything children what born boy , because knew what any boy once the messiah?

Correct, Esau despised his birthright, most likely didn't want the responsibility towards God that came with it. Jacob desired the birthright, perhaps was told by his Mom that he was to receive it by the prophecy given to her when pregnant. Jacob had a believing heart, but was also shrewd, at times to the point of grave sin. Thank God for his forgiveness and plans for those He chooses!

God's will was accomplished despite the willful sins of Rebekah and Jacob. There is nothing in this account to fault Isaac

Please can you give me examples of blasphemy the holy spirit.

I do not think that Isaac was a carnal believer as you say. He sinned, like Adam and Eve, like Noah, like Abraham, and everyone else who has ever lived. Christians sin,, this does not make them carnal believers. I didn't know Isaac personally, so I can not make such a determination about him like you did. God worked through Isaac, appeared to him, spoke with him, and blessed him greatly. I see no indication in the scripture that indicates that God was displeased with Isaac.

Abraham is listed first in the genealogy of his family. I am assuming he was a first born.

Psalms 1.1

Ecclesiasticus 7.2

Depart from the unjust , and iniquity shall turn away from you .

1 Corinthians separate your selves from dishonourable vessels and become honourable vessels. ( within the religious)

Those that claim to be Christian and live a dishonourable life are the worst kind of defilement.

James 1.27

How many even understand what undefiled is ?

It's separation from sin and sinful people .

I have found blessings when I separate from evil people, it's more solitude, but more blessed .

If you are living a defeated life it may because you do not understand living a holy life , it's a walk and who we hang out with too .

Millennium kingdom.

Part 5 of 6.

The Kingdom of God will not be established by man's efforts, by human ability. The church is not building the Kingdom today, yet it is geared into a program that will see the coming of the Kingdom. It's not our business to build a Kingdom. This is one reason that I am thankful today to be out of the denomination I was raised in. I used to go to meetings in which there were always brethren building the Kingdom - and you ought to have seen the cheap little "chicken-coop" that we built! Yet we were always talking about building the Kingdom. My friend, when God is ready to set up His Kingdom, He won't need help from any church. In fact, He is going to remove His true church out of the world before He establishes His Kingdom here upon the earth. That is His plan, that is His program, if you please.

Now the Kingdom that we are looking at in these few pages will be confined to what Isaiah had to say on this subject. And believe me, he had a great deal to say about it.

This Kingdom - and this is important for you to understand - is the same as we find in the New Testament where it is called the Kingdom of Heaven. That was the message John the Baptist began with: "Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand" ( Matthew 3:2). When the Lord Jesus began His ministry, He said the same thing.

thecommonpeople who heard John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus understood what they were talking about. The Kingdom we are talking about is just what the Old Testament has been talking about: the Millennial Kingdom coming on the earth.

The Kingdom of Heaven is just simply this: the rule of the Heavens over the earth. When Heaven rules over this earth on which we live, we will have the Kingdom of Heaven condition.

See part 6 of 6.

Mark, thanks for making me smile! I thank God that we don't have to seek out friendship with the world especially in this dark time the world is going through. I pray that God would bless you and that the Holy Spirit would commune with you. Especially in your loneliest moments. I pray that the Holy Spirit would Help you study. Like a Holy Spirit study buddy! I pray right now in Jesus name that you would be blessed and that he would keep you through your isolation. amen!

My question was simple but you did not answer it

Millennium kingdom.

Part 4.

The Bible tells us that there will be some in rebellion, and that rebellion breaks out during the Millennium. Christ will judge it immediately because He is going to bring this earth back under the rule of God. That is God's purpose for the earth.

For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. ( 1 Corinthians 15:25-28)

Now what does that mean? It means simply this: The Lord Jesus will come to this earth, reign one thousand years, and bring this earth back under the rule of God. When this is accomplished, I take it that He will return back to His place in the Godhead. And this earth then will become what God intended it to be throughout the eternal ages of the future. This is the picture that the Scripture presents.

All the way through the Old Testament, and especially in the Prophets, this Kingdom, this thousand-year reign of Christ on the earth, is set before us. In fact, there is more Scripture - this may surprise you - on this subject than on any other subject in the Bible. The prophets had more to say about this coming Kingdom than anything else. It was their theme song. They sound like a stuck record, saying over and over that the King is coming, the Kingdom is coming, and great blessings will be on this earth.

Now, the prophets spoke of it as coming in the future. And from where you and I are today, it is still future. The conditions predicted have never been fulfilled in the past, and they are not being fulfilled yet, as we shall see.

See Part 5

Karen, I come together with you and Kent in agreement asking God to do this thing and we loose this in the earth. In Jesus name Amen (So be it)

Millennium kingdom.

Part 3.

then he says that those who are Christ's will be raised at His coming.

But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at His coming. ( 1 Corinthians 15:23)

After that, "Then cometh the end." The end of what? The world? No. The Bible does not teach the end of the world. This world that we live in will not come to an end but is going into eternity. Yes, it's to be renovated, made new, but it is going into eternity.

Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the Kingdom to God, even the Father

There does come a time when this thousand-year reign will be delivered up to God the Father,

when he [Christ] shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. ( 1 Corinthians 15:24, 25)

Christ is coming into this world someday, and He will come in with great judgment. He will set up His thousand-year reign here upon this earth. And during that thousand-year reign, He will accomplish a purpose. Today He is accomplishing His purpose of calling a people out of this world unto Himself. During the millennial reign He's going to bring this earth under His rule. He will rule with a rod of iron. Those who oppose Him will be dashed in pieces like a potter's vessel. That is going to be a time when Christ will rule arbitrarily upon this earth.

Now let me make this very clear. We have not yet seen a real dictator rule. You wait till Christ rules. When He rules on this earth a bird won't even cheep, a rooster won't crow and a man won't open his mouth without His permission. That'll be a time when His will at last will be done on this earth. And, my friend, even the Millennium would be a hell for any man who is in rebellion against God.

see part 4.

Millennium kingdom.

By J vernon mcgee.

Part 2.

There is a glorious day in the future which does not depend upon a ritual or a liturgy or a ceremony or jumping through some little hoop and thinking that will please God. God says that it is the heart which will have to be changed, and He says that He is going to change these people's hearts. The Word of God will go forth from Jerusalem, and it will be called a city of truth.

Isaiah goes on to say in his prophecy, "And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more" ( Isaiah 2:3,4). But we have not come to that day yet. Yet there is coming a day when "Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain [or, kingdom] of the Lord of hosts the holy mountain." In other words, Zechariah is speaking of the establishment of the millennial Kingdom, which is yet in the future.

Actually, the Millennium is merely one phase of God's eternal Kingdom; that is, the "theocratic Kingdom," as Dr. George N. H. Peters calls it - and I like that term so much better. Actually, everything thathashappened in history, thatishappening in our day, andwillhappen in the future is all part of God's program in setting up His Kingdom here upon this earth.

Now the Millennium, one feature of God's eternal Kingdom, is a special dispensation that is yet future. The Millennial Kingdom will come to an end, and the eternal Kingdom will begin. That is stated clearly in Scripture. Over in1 Corinthians 15, Paul gives the order of events, beginning with the resurrection of Christ inverse 20,

Wait, wait. The unequally yoked rules originated with the Jews. Genesis 4:26, Genesis 6:2-6, Deuteronomy 7:1-29, 1 Kings 11:1-4, Malachi 2:15, Psalm 122:6, Genesis 12:1-3,

John 8:31, Matthew 27:11, John 18:33, Revelation 7:5

Dear God

,Please touch The lives of every person on James prayer list. Lord .I thank You that We can bring them boldly before Your throne Heavenly Father I thank You that You have given James a heart for the needy and the sick and shut in

Show us all how to care for people. To see them through Your eyes. To love them through Your heart. Help them, be merciful to them. Meet their needs.

Please bless James tonight and bless his work for You Please strengthen him and meet his needs as he ministers to others .

In Jesus mighty name amen

Millennium kingdom

By j vernon mcgee.

Part 1.

Thus saith the Lord; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the Lord of hosts the holy mountain.( Zechariah 8:3)

This prophecy looks to the future. It has not been fulfilled since then, and it's not being fulfilled today. God makes it clear that He will return to Zion, and He makes it clear that He is going to dwell in the midst of Jerusalem.

"And Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth." Today it is a city where there are more religions than you can imagine! Every Christian organization has built something there, and there are all kinds of cults and isms there. It is not the city of truth today.

"And the mountain of the Lord of hosts the holy mountain." I have never seen anything there that I thought you could call holy. It's just not holy today, my friend. It will be holy when He gets back there, but He is not back there yet. This prophecy looks to the future.

"Thus saith the Lord; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth." Earlier, Isaiah had made it very clear that Jerusalem is to become the capital of the earth. In the second chapter of his prophecy, we read, "The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it" ( Isaiah 2:1,2). Zechariah is here looking on toward the last days and is encouraging the people. They have returned to the land, and God has blessed them to a certain degree, but this is a miniature of what is going to come in the future.

See part 2.

God bless.

Thank you Rick and Diane for your reply.

I guess I do not see things the way you two do. Jesus promised the disciples that the Holy Spirit will teach them all things. The same Holy Spirit taught Paul as well. The Spirit delivered the same gospel to Paul as he did to the apostles. The spirit taught only one gospel, and it was for the Jews and the Gentiles. Peter preached the gospels to the Gentiles before Paul did (Acts10:34-43) On Pentacost, Peter preached to those gathered the same gospel as Paul ( Acts 2:22-37) Stephen preached the gospel at Antioch and founded this church before Paul was converted ( Acts 15:6-18) And when Paul went to Jerusalem after many years and shared what he was preaching, both he and the Apostles of the jerusalem church agreed that he was preaching the same gospel. I do not believe that Jesus' kingdom was for the Jews of that time, as Diane stated, nor do I believe that Paul had the Gentile gospel to the exclusion of the Jewish gospel. In every town he visited hep preached the same gospel to those in the synagogue as to those in Gentile situations. There is only one gospel and only one kingdom of God, not different ones in different dispensations. Diane, by the way you hold up Paul it sounds like you even hold him to be superior to Jesus and Jesus' ministry. I reject such a notion. I suggest that both of you go back and read through Acts so you can see that there has always been one gospel for both Jew and Gentile. As far as the 12 apostles knowing less than Paul about the Jesus and the gospel negates Jesus' very words that the Holy Spirit will teach the apostles(before Paul was converted) all things ( John 14. 25-26). A say these things to you in love. I care about you hearing sound doctrine and I will always defend the doctrines of the faith handed down through the generations to believers in the writings of the apostles, gospel writers, and Paul. I am not sure if your ideas about dispensations is the same as mine, also. God bless you!

I pray over your family right now. God please bind them together in love don't let them drift apart God. Help them to pray together Lord , to come together and pray over each other's needs. And deliver them God from gambling and drugs. Remove the attraction and desire for those things God please in Jesus name. I Ask right now for divine order for this family. I know that takes time So please let them see Your fingerprints while they wait. And help them to lay down every thing that isn't pleasing to You Lord just show them how. Bless them for doing so. In Jesus mighty name thank You Lord hears hear our prayers.

Lord God , I pray for me to withstand prolonged periods of isolation. I have no friends, all I do is read and study , for upcoming exams, but I feel very negative about it because that's all I do and it seems to be mentally painful already. Other than that , I love to exercise and eat healthy every day, I love praying and talking to you God , and reading the bible as well as simple meditation. These are the things that I do every day for about 1 year + and sometimes honestly , it's quite depressing. If anyone is going through the same thing (man or woman).. I pray for you too that you will find the strength in depressive , overwhelming times such as this. That Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is always standing beside us in super lonely times, where you don't have anyone to talk to that much. Forgive us Lord Jesus. Please give us the strength also to help others as well, not to put others down but to LIFT them up. In Christ's name. Amen.

Don, I pray right now that you would receive a touch from The Holy Spirit! Weeping may endure for the night but Joy comes in the morning! God truly cares about all that you're going through. I pray for your breakthrough Brother Don. I'm believing God for your healing and encouragement. Stay strong I pray that your blessing is on the way ! In Jesus name! Cast all your burdens (cares) on The LordBecause He cares for you!

This psalm is most appropriate for my. I ask God to renew my strength daily because the enemy is like a roaring lion. Jesus is the Rock on which I stand.