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Thank you for that response, brother Rick. It is true, that there are many things that I believe & write that I am fully convinced of, because that is what I find in the Scriptures. The 'apostolic age' (meaning, the era or set period) ended with the twelve disciples becoming apostles (i.e. from a position of learning/training to a position of being sent out on a mission/a messenger: 'apostolos').

Then we get Saul coming out of nowhere & never numbered with the twelve apostles. We know the difficulty he had with that, in spite of him believing what the Lord Jesus Who appeared to him from Heaven, declared ( Acts 26:13-18, before King Agrippa). Even when the Corinthians began to doubt his apostleship, Paul had to declare that he was called by the Lord to this work ( 1 Corinthians 15:7-9, the least of the apostles & one born out of due time). And there are many other references where Paul had to prove his calling & apostleship. Yet, he was a chosen vessel having seen the risen Christ just as the other twelve did. So we get a clear idea of what the position of an apostle is. If we then attempt to bring that into the post-apostolic period, then the closest we can equate that to, is the Missionary, who does the work of the apostle, especially if he has had that heavenly vision.

In relation to prophets, this seems clearer. You know what the prophetical utterances & writings are, as seen in the Word. And you also know, the Book of the Revelation given to John with the stern warning in Revelation 22:18,19. In my understanding, what could a supposed prophet of God reveal to us that is more than what we find in the OT & NT till the final revelation? No one has yet declared a prophetical event in the future with any certainty. Many have tried & their prophecies have failed. And to overcome this problem of the end of the prophetical voice, some believe that a so-called prophet who brings any message, becomes a prophetical word. I think a preacher/teacher does that quite well.

Michelle I give you words of encouragement and prayer. Yahweh promised that he would never leave us. He is there in all of our distress .Yahweh, I stand with Michelle in agreement. You said where two or more are together there you would be amongst them. So I ask you to heal Lloyd Williams. He has cancer and is in need of a healing. Touch him Father and heal his body. Give the doctors the knowledge that they need to ensure that he recovers. I do pray this in the name of your dear son Lord Jesus Christ.

Yahweh I come before you on behalf of Angie. May you please heal her mind, body, spirt, and soul from any ailments that may be afflicting her. Bring Angie peace. May you touch her finances and her family. Yahweh you are our refuge, be with us.

Thank you.

Hi Dortha.

Here is the account in Genesis 4:16-17. And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

( AND CAIN KNEW HIS WIFE; )and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

The scripture says went out from the presence of the Lord, dwelleth in Nod and Knew his wife. it doesn't say he met her in Nod or he married a woman from Nod.

So it is reasonable to think he may have already been married when he killed his brother Abel.

God bless.

The story ends with Isaac taking Rebekah into Sarah, his mother's tent and they consummated their marriage and became husband and wife that night. No fancy, dancy wedding, although Abraham could afford it. No wedding shower, not engagement period, no Big Day. It was a very private affair. I don't even know if Abraham knew. Perhaps Isaac had his mother's tent because he was the heir. Maybe, Abraham had his tent a ways away, since it says that Isaac dwelt in the south, no mention of Abraham. Or maybe, the caravan stopped at Abraham's tent first for Abraham to give the "thumbs up". We are not told, so this is all just speculation. All in all, God worked all things out for good for Abraham, Isaac, Rebekah, and the faithful servant.

Lot, Bethuel and Isaac were from the same generation, but obviously, there was a generation age gap between Isaac and the others. Therefore, Rebekah and Laban, were similar in age to Isaac, who was about 30, but of the next generation. This can be confusing to some who do not have this "one generation removed" relationships. It is common in large families when the youngest in a family is close in age or even younger that the children of his/her siblings. He/she would be an aunt or uncle to their siblings child, but close in age. That is why we say, one generation removed. They are similar in age but not of the same generation. I have this in my family due to 20 years between my oldest sibling and youngest sibling and 8 siblings between these two. My younger brother became an uncle at age 6.

Back to the text. After the long journey the caravan approached where Isaac and Abraham lived. Glad to read that Isaac was alone meditating. What was he thinking about? Perhaps on the promises and covenant that God had made with his father and praying about its fulfilment when the servant returned. He was probably hoping the servant returned with someone suitable to be his wife. He may have been praying about becoming a good husband like his father. He may have been preparing himself for the arrival of his bride. As the caravan approached they glimpsed each other. Upon inquiring who Isaac was, Rebekah covered her face with a veil, which was probably customary until two betrothed people were married. Even so, from the moment they saw each other, God caused a love for each other to be born in each of them. That is amazing! My husband and I have been married 42 years and it wasn't love at first sight. We were in college and had an opportunity to get to know one another before we got serious. He loved me first and God created a love in my heart for him after that. He waited for God to grow that love in me for him. He could have looked elsewhere, but waited for me. We're blessed.

... continued... the servant asked for a sign and it happened just at the moment he said his last word of his prayer. God made this happen, though Rebekah had no idea that anyone would be coming for her, and the servant did not know who to inquire of about Nahor's family . A perfect meeting! The servant didn't stop praying through the whole process. He wanted to be so positive that he brings back the right woman for Isaac.

Rebekah turned out to be a very gracious and kind woman. She answered all of the servant's requests with hospitality. Her family was welcoming. It was interesting that they did not inquire much about Abraham. They may not have known much about Abraham's calling as this may have been one of the few contacts they had concerning their relative. They were willing to have Rebekah be Isaac's wife, but wanted more time with her. They hadn't woken up that day thinking that Rebekah would leave to marry that day. They asked Rebekah, which they probably did not have to do, as marriages may have been decided between the men of the household. She was ready to go right away. Who knows how God had guided and stirred her heart that day to agree to leave her family, whom she obviously loved, and go to a far away place and perhaps never see her family again. Her grandmother, Milcah, Haran's daughter and Nahor's wife was still alive and lived with her son, Bethual and wife, and granddaughter Rebekah. She had grown up with Abraham, being in his generation. She was probably very happy that her daughter would become part of her cousin's family, since her father had died so long ago. Nahor must have also died, as he is not mentioned and the city was named after him. The family recognized this event as being from the Lord. Good to know that they still believed. Laban, Rebekah's brother will later become father-in-law to Jacob, son of Isaac and Rebekah. So Jacob and his wives would be third cousins one generation removed, I believe. Bethuel and Isaac were first cousins

This is the wonderful account of how Isaac and Rebekah's marriage came about. Everyone in this story had faith in God. It states that God had told Abraham to take a wife for Isaac from his direct kin. It doesn't record the encounter of this conversation between God and Abraham, but Abraham's emphasizes it as being important. Sarah had died. Abraham was about 137 years old. He and Isaac did not have any kinsmen living any where near them, But the promised seed was to come from the lineage of Adam, Seth, Noah, Shem, on down to Abraham. There were many descendants of Shem around Mesopotamia, but God had chosen Abraham and his lineage for the seed to proceed from according to God' promise. Therefore, Isaac could not take a wife from the Canaanites because they were from the lineage of Ham, not Shem. So, Abraham had his most trusted servant, probably Eliezer, to swear an oath to get a wife from Abraham's brother, Nahor's household in Haran in northern Mesopotamia. The servant put his hand under Abraham's thigh to seal the oath, which was done in those days, it seems, or it was done because the under-thigh is so near the genitals that it is an acknowledgment of the promise that the promised seed would be generated through Abraham. It showed that Abraham was determined in his faith to follow God's direction to realize the promise and honor the covenant God had made with him and no one else. So, the servant prepared everything he needed to take on the journey and set off with other servants and many camels loaded with gifts for the family of Isaac's bride. (probably customary). The servant was faithful, going to Haran and no other place. Abraham didn't know his relatives much. Probably hadn't seen them in 50 years or so. The servant could have picked any woman in the area. There probably would be a family resemblance. But, the servant was trustworthy and feared God. I am so impressed by his prayer for God to bring the woman to the well and the conditions. See more ...

Hi. I really appreciate the feedback you guys provide. It is top level. I am looking for exodus typology.

Thank you!.

Thank you Chris for the theological concept outline. It was perfect. It helped me greatly in my studies. Praise God for you.

Hello again,

This is the account of the death of Sarah at age 127 and how Abraham purchased "the cave of the patriarchs" In Mamre, Hebron (known by other names in other times) also called Kirjath Arba. This territory was known for the Philistines (who later warred with the Israelites up unto David's days. At this time, Abraham lived peaceably as a visitor and foreigner in this land, so he may not owned any land at this time. He negotiated to buy the cave in the field of Ephron, a Hittite. At first it seemed that Ephron was going to give the land to Abraham, but Abraham insisted on paying a fair price for it. He was wise to do so. He wanted to do business above board with his neighbors. Ephron finally named a price and Abraham weighed out the silver in the presence of Ephron and the sons of Heth. Notice that Abraham had only wanted to buy the cave, but Ephron threw in the field it lay in as well. That was his way of honoring Abraham as a "prince" among them. It is apparent that Abraham lived an upright life among these people and they had great respect for him as well as congenial relationships. Abraham did not have any extended family to share his grieving with except for Isaac, it seems. However, the sons of Heth meet with him as he stayed by Sarah's body and supported him in his grief. It is unknown how many of the people in Canaan shared his faith in the True God. This time is still fairly close to the time of Noah as people spread out from Mesopotamia. It is not stated how long the Canaanites had lived in this land, perhaps since Canaan (Noah's grandson) set out with his clan to settle there. I think it is reasonable to think that they were there a few hundred years, since Canaan had to be born and reached adulthood to migrate. there. So, Abraham buried Sarah in peace.

It must have been customary to bury dead in caves. Perhaps it protected the bodies from being disturbed by wild animals and also allowed for kin to be buried in the same cave.

King David is accredited as author of Psalms 23, here is some of his documented historical references that may help understand deeper: 1 Samuel 19:1,9,10,11,15,18,20-24, 2 Samuel 12:7-14, 2 Samuel 15:14,

Does a stronghold keep your prayers from God?!

As we read scripture, we must remember WHY the Word was written and preserved for all generations. Ask yourself how each scripture affects your growth. Physical details are not as important as spiritual development in ourselves; especially true when understanding a spiritual book. Everything written in the Bible is for our SPIRITUAL growth. Don't get hung up on scientific details. Remember 1 Cor. 13:12 and you will be alright. Strive to overcome.

Hi Ruben Perhaps scripturally take a lesson from David the king, He takes as soldiers wife sleeps with her gets her pregnant not good! Then plans the killing of her husband to cover things up, God being the loving forgiving god he is sends in Nathan the prophet to straighten David out and set His heart straight. David recognizes his sin but loses the child, yet knowing Gods forgiveness prays for the child that perhaps God will change his mind. Once he gets word the child is dead he gets himself together and moves on. Now remember this is a man that Gods Word says is a man after his own heart even though he did what he did. That being said Ruben it sounds like you know your error so thank God for deliverance and forgiveness of sin and start thinking about everything He's done for us in Christ. Remember He is more willing to forgive us than we are to accept it, also the adversary is always the accuser God is always through christ our defence attorney and we are found not guilty in Him. Prayerfully this helps P.S. You can't focus on the future if you dwell on the past.

Hi Dotha I don't read where there were already people in nod, but I could be in error.

um, thank you so much for your help.

Matthew 25:31-46

James 1:5, James 5:16, faults also is translated sins

Genesis 1:27,

John 21:25,

Genesis 2:17, Genesis 3:6-7, Genesis 3:22-24,

Please note inbtween those scriptures GOD acts with compassion & mercy Genesis 3:21, & sacrifice of another creature to cover them.

Romans 16:19

Hopefully these are helpful.

Leviticus 23:19, Hebrews 10:1-10, Ephesians 1:7

Hiya Elliaha Look at Genesis 2:17 only one tree

Thank you for your reply

Once again you have helped me by providing the Scripture in John where Jesus mentions that Abraham saw this day and rejoiced. I was going to search for it this morning, and here you gave it to me. I rad the whole chapter of John 8. Blessings to you.

Chris

thank you for your reply, especially the additional information about Muhammed. I need to learn more about this since my oldest son just married a Muslim woman from Asia. She is kind-hearted and I am praying for her ehart to be softened to hear the truth of the gospel and believe.

Thank you for your comment.

Thank you.

Dear Ruben,

I do not know what you are going through, you did not give a lot of detail and that's ok, but may I just speak the plain truth. If you are truly being called back in the fold, the road back may not be short or easy. We cannot just say a prayer or two and everything will be hunky-dory again. Please do not compare what you are dealing with to Job, our words can come to be if you know what I mean.

We must all work out our path of salvation, Ezekiel 18:20 Romans 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Read Luke 15:11-32 Are you there yet? The word of God is our only defense against the principalities and powers of evil and believe me, they do not let go easily and they can be quite vicious. Spend every spare minute in His word and prayer, truly repenting, not holding on to anything, if it is any kind of obstacle let it go, even if you lose it all. Revelation 2:5

We must truly admit and understand what we have done. Jeremiah 2:19 We must know it may take time and not at all be easy. Hosea 5:15 When we truly have repented without any doubt, He will return Jeremiah 3:22 2 Hosea 14:4

Jonah was a great man of God, but he backslid from the will of God and went in his direction, not Gods. Look what God sent him to get his attention and change his direction. You can do it but do not get discouraged if things get worse and the temptations, not from God, but from the adversaries trying to hold you back. Turn adversity into strength, for what we lose in this life is nothing to what we will lose in the life to come. Mark 35:8 that's not just our physical life, it is the life we choose to live.

My prayer is for you to have the strength you will need.

RLW

Amen Brother Carleton!!

Galatians 3:17. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. There's a lot tied to that promise. The birth of Isaac was a product of that promise, So are we.

Galatians 4:28. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

Abrahams offering up of Issac demonstrates the prophetic Ties the promise has with the Resurrection and new life by the Spirit.

Hebrews 11:18-19. Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

Genesis 15:1-18.

God bless you brother.

Mountain Top Experience

Our master Jesus Christ everyday exhibited the walk of believing moment by moment with our father and was a master communicator to the heart. In luke 8:43 in a crowd a women who had an issue of blood spent everything she had walked up behind Him and touched his garment and jesus said in a crowd! who touched me what a walk. We read she was healed but still trembling and in absolute awe because she new she was healed then the master turns around and says daughter be of good comfort those words must have comforted her and melted her heart and mind like butter thy faith[pistis believing] hath made thee whole go in peace. What an example we have.