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Believing and Faith It is interesting how many times it is said that there was spiritual faith in the gospels and old testament when in galatians 3:23+24 before faith came kept under the law spiritual faith came with what was accomplished by Jesus Christ and given the birthday of the church on Pentecost. Before pentecost a person could believe God and it was counted unto them for righteousness Abraham but that is different from spiritual faith of Jesus Christ. This is a case where the translators took the liberty to use the word pistis for either believing or spiritual faith at there liberty or according to there theology. Also Jesus Christ fulfilled and ended the law which ushered in the age of Grace which we live in and are able to walk in the spiritual law of love agape by our daily believing walk in the faith of Jesus Christ.

Does it matter what Bible I read, study and strengthen my Faith with. I have KJV 2017.

GiGi,

That about Melchizedek was something that popped in my head that I should have left in my head. I do not believe he was Shem either, some answers we may never have, but the ones that count are in abundance.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Rick,

Thanks, I totally agree, I guess I could have left that out. Melchizedek is a subject we do not have enough biblical information to find the truth. He is in only three books Genesis 14, Psalms 110:4 and Hebrews 5 and 7. He's a mysterious figure being king of Salem or Shalem, that was known as Jebus, the city of Jebusites that David defeated and now is Jerusalem.

The priest was called of God, as Aaron was, and all the priest to Israel were the Levitical priesthood, that was the order. We know Jesus was of the tribe of Judah, and Psalms 110:4 was fulfilled by Jesus. It is an interesting subject and there is more that could be discussed but where would it go. It will still end with questions unanswered.

God bless, and have a great day.

RLW

Brother Nic, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The Holy Spirit, through men, wrote the WORD(S) of God ( 2 Peter 1:21).

To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is to NOT BELIEVE the Words of God.

Everyone blasphemes the Holy Spirit; until the Holy Spirit intervenes an CAUSES that person to BELIEVE ( Philippians 1:29).

The word you have to believe are not just a few scriptures (words) but ALL the scriptures (words).

Matthew 12:31-32 says they wont be forgiven in this AGE or in the AGE to follow.

Do you know how many AGES God has ordain in the AGE that has no beginning and no end. No we don't know.

God's word says that after this AGE and the AGE to follow, that they will be saved.

Isaiah 26:9 ...When thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the earth will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Isaiah 45:23 ...That unto me every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess ....

Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow ......

Philippians 2:11 And every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

1 Timothy 4:10 ...Who is the saviour of ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE.

This is going to be fulfilled some time after this AGE and the AGE to follow.

Sadly most don't believe these words of God.

I ask for prayer that work will go very well throughout the rest of the year. Thank you so much, and may God bless you!

I trust the Lord with that . He never fails me . He gave us the scriptures. I encourage all to read them to avoid errors of men .

Pray for my marriage, for the love for each other and for the commitment we made to each other and our kids to be rekindle.

Hi John Explain to me how the book of Romans is an Epistles written to the church of God born again believers and the 13 chapter is sandwiched between 12 which talks about being not conformed to this world and 14 talking about not judging other believers in the body of Christ. According to Ephesians the sword of the spirit is Gods word which is a terror to those who choose to do evil, in context the 13th chapter of Romans in my understanding is talking about leadership in the church the body of christ and paying tribute to those who teach Gods Word.

How did certain people in bible times live so long?

Were the years shorter than 365 days ?

Was a year in those days equal to a Year today ?

Or was it divine intervention ?

Please continue to pray for myself and my daughters Deanna and Jessica and there families , please pray for my lost co workers they are so full of hate and envy , Pray the Lord touches there hearts

Have a look at James 2:10, Judith.

lord help us keep us in prayers

Just wanted to ask that we've never seen the church demand tribute or bear the sword? They asked Peter if his master payed temple tax . And the Roman church demanded money and executed people for not obey their religious law.. in fact till Napolean arrested the pope and stripped him of his crown the church ruled for 40 and 2 months . Exactly 1260 yrs.. now the beast of the earth the one having 2 horns like a lamb . Who's the lamb? Jesus Christ .2 horns with no crowns..horns will symbolize precepts of power to govern . The 2 precepts of Christ.. love God love your neighbor.. protestantism and republicanism.. seperation of church and state .

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same,... Rulers here are speaking of the civil governor.. the church is not to lord over the people.. pharasees did it with profaning sabbath making it illegal to do good on the sabbath . Now in the church pharasees ( in spirit) have cast down the law and trampled sabbath underfoot.. and the Lil horn of Daniel has transfered sabbath to Sunday.. no one want.ts to hear the truth.. but soon the papacy will ask for an international green Sabbath on a common day once a week.. in an effort to slow climate change SUNDAY will be enforced worldwide and those that violate this law will be persecuted..

The two marks defining the people of God (Israel) were Circumcision & giving of the Law. No other people or nation received those directives from God ( Genesis 17:10,11; Leviticus 26:46). In regards to the Law, they were to learn God's requirements for a familial relationship to Him, to their society, & in their personal lives. For circumcision, they were to be marked out in a way distinct from any other (different from any body markings, cuttings or disfigurement of the heathen, even if there was an accidental loss of an organ or an appendage). And of course, the Apostle Paul spoke of this in Romans 2:25-29, connecting the two directives together - that one couldn't be without the other to the Jew - and since the Law couldn't be kept perfectly, true circumcision then must be of the heart & not of the flesh to count before God. I wonder whether what was given as a Mark of distinction & also for hygiene purposes, was also to alert the Jew that this seemingly unnatural act (of circumcision) was to point him to what the apostle now learned as a believer.

And this practise of circumcision continued, not only within Judaism, but also Islam. Yet as much as Islamists (Arabs) might have their heritage back to Seth, yet "in Isaac shall thy seed be called" ( Genesis 21:12 & Romans 9:6-8). And this rejection of Ishmael by God will always keep those adherents at odds with the "seed of Isaac", & will most likely figure in those awful days of devastation that lie ahead.

Wow.. quite a powerful chapter..Paul reaffirming how God views the king (governments )of the world.. ministers doing God's bidding to test his people.. to speak truth but Obey the power to the point of death.. it glorifies God for his people to put on Christ and his spirit guides to obey his commandments.. 10 of em.. they are all listed but the first 4 are crucial to know who God is.. in Jesus day the religious leaders demanded that the state try him and crucify him for violating their religious law.. in the end it will be the same way where the religious leaders are the ones asking the state to enforce their law.. it's the one they got called blue laws..say they pass a law requiring people to rest on SUNDAY..? LOOK IN EZEKIAL 8 and see what God thinks of sunworship.. it doesn't say but clearly men are facing east worshipping the sun... Done on the 1st day of the week.... Women weeping for Tammuz.. the pagan cross comes from the T ... I apologize for not listing verses but look .. we can't say we love God bit do not have the faith of Jesus to obey the commands . In John Jesus says over and over .. that he only did what his father commanded him and he knew that commandment leads to eternal life... Hmm... 10 are 1.. he didn't come to get rid of the law but to fulfill it . By this and his blood he can now enter the heavenly sanctuary to cleanse our confessed sins.. well he's already commenced with the cleansing of the sanctuary starting in 1844... Soon it will be too late for repentance.. the three angels messages... We are in the last hrs.. mark of the beast crisis is approaching.. this mark represents the sign of authority of this kingdom.. same as God's seal is his sign of authority over his people... The anti-christ thinks to change times and laws. Rome fell and the papacy rose to power in 538 AD.. Possessing both civil and ecclesiastical authority they persecuted God's people and they fled west.. the shaking and remnants.

The apocrypha is a selection of books which were published in the original 1611 King James Bible. These apocryphal books were positioned between the Old and New Testament (it also contained maps and geneologies). The apocrypha was a part of the KJV for 274 years until being removed in 1885 A.D. A portion of these books were called deuterocanonical books by some entities, such as the Catholic church.

Many claim the apocrypha should never have been included in the first place, raising doubt about its validity and believing it was not God-inspired (for instance, a reference about magic seems inconsistent with the rest of the Bible: Tobit chapter 6, verses 5-8). Others believe it is valid and that it should never have been removed- that it was considered part of the Bible for nearly 2,000 years before it was recently removed a little more than 100 years ago. Some say it was removed because of not finding the books in the original Hebrew manuscripts. Others claim it wasn't removed by the church, but by printers to cut costs in distributing Bibles in the United States. Both sides tend to cite the same verses that warn against adding or subtracting from the Bible: Revelation 22:18. The word 'apocrypha' means 'hidden.' Fragments of Dead Sea Scrolls dating back to before 70 A.D. contained parts of the apocrypha books in Hebrew, including Sirach and Tobit [source].

Keep this in mind when reading the following apocryphal books. Martin Luther said, "Apocrypha--that is, books which are not regarded as equal to the holy Scriptures, and yet are profitable and good to read." (King James Version Defended page 98.)

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Keep praising the Lord our God.

God is amazing and righteous and all of His judgements are righteous and true!

Very powerful words that touched my heart and I needed to read it at all times to remind Me how GREAT IS MY GOD. IN JESUS CHRIST AMEN

Why I can't find Ecclesiasticus /Sirach in Kng James Bible, what Bible does this come from

Please pray for The Holy Spirit to say a prayer for the Lord to take back everything the devil has stolen in my life and future and protect me and my children, our homes, jobs, christian defamation of character and everything God has predestined for us and fight our battles right now and forever. the Lord's presence, hope, love, grace, mercy, help, blessing, favor, anointing, deliverance, complete healing , salvation, peace, comfort, provision, increased finances, promotions, good health, success, acceptance from others, respect & agape love from others, safety and God's rescue and hedge of protection and Warring Angels around me, my children, my grandkids, our homes, cars, jobs, churches, health, minds, lives relationships, marriages, businesses & for God to right now and forever protect and save all my children and grandchildren and me and fight all our battles and for God to bless me with a house to own that is big enough to accommodate me, and the desires of my heart being fulfilled, and a saved sanctified man of God that would treat me as Jesus would the Church & to care and protect me, respect and love me, be faithful, committed and marry me & stay married until Jesus comes in the rapture. Prayer for us to find a good Bible based church with true leaders of God, for God to protect us and give us all peace in Jesus Name.

Thank you GiGi for those very kind remarks - they're truly undeserving. Many of us here come on often to do just that, to help others get to know & love the Scriptures more, thereby knowing the Will of God for them & living it out confidently in their lives. Actually, I don't go back into the Comments section looking at old posts - I find there are enough to consider & maybe comment on, in the present. And true, we'll never find agreement of everything in the Bible - there are so many variables & of course, the underlying fact is, that we often don't really have all the information to be able to say conclusively that a particular teaching is what it is & nothing else. The old adage, "Major on the majors and minor on the minors", should be where our focus is on - but it is nice to converse over 'peripheral' subjects & try & see how others view them. And thank you for your recent comments which have vividly brought us into the lives & thoughts of those men of old - indeed, we all bring out God's Word in a special way with our varied approaches.

I need a safe clean place to live in the next 2 days. Have been searching. Haven't found one yet. Also, healing from mold poisoning.

You praying about it seems like the best action. You're seeking council on it which is also good. You might consider scheduling a meeting with a pastor to speak in person. More perspectives may help, however, beware of bad advice and false teachers. Some make up stuff that isn't based on the Bible. For instance, someone claiming only an 'elect' can commit this sin is untrue. Things not in the Bible are usually false. Anyone can commit blasphemy which is why Jesus spoke both to his own followers and Pharasees and a general audience about it as well.

Where is it written " This Too Shall Pass ". ?

Abraham was given amazing prophecies and promises concerning his son, Isaac, and Isaac had not been conceived yet!

But God already knew Isaac from eternity's viewpoint.

Interesting that God called Abraham to walk with God and be perfect. But we all know that Abraham was a sinner like every person is. I get from this verse that as we walk with God, His righteousness covers us while His Spirit is sanctifying us (Making us holy) as He is changing us into Christ's image from glory to glory (bit by bit or moment by moment?).

Since Abraham knew he could father a child (Ishmael) he may have taken this promise into the marriage bed, anticipating conception more than before! And in 3 months Sarah did conceive just as God had said would happen. I'm sure that strengthened Abraham and Sarah's faith even more. Just like experience answers to our prayers strengthen our faith and trust in God.

You are right. That's a scripture. We are in Christ and are now Christ Followers.

Most people identify with cultural upbringing and family traditions. These are things that the Holy Spirit helps us work through.

Pagan origins and traditions mixed with pagan origins will not be observed in heaven.

We will all be learning new ways to adore Jesus in Heaven.

At Christmas I don't have a tree. I don't hang lights. I have a manger that looks like a cave with straw and figures to put in it. I go caroling with kids from church sometimes. I love the cold air, stars and the sweet voices. What a happy bunch!

Hallelujah to the Almighty God of Abraham!

The first covenant God made was with Himself for Abraham. The second covenant was between God and Abraham, that all males would be circumcised. God knew best to have babies circumcised. My dad was circumcised as an adult. My mom said he was very uncomfortable after it until he healed. She also said that he said that sex was more pleasurable uncircumcised. Maybe God commanded circumcism in order to help men be faithful or considerate of their wives by reducing the pleasure after circumcism. Don't know if this is the case for most men who are circumcised as adults after they have already sexually active. Interesting that other cultures with a low view of women circumcise girls in order that they do not feel much pleasure in intercourse. God's way is always better.

I can tell from this verse that Abraham loved Ishmael and wanted him to be included in the covenant, too. I think he laughed because he realized his and Sarah's age and knew that it would take a miracle for them to have a child. I don't think that he didn't believe God's promise. He just found it humorous. God did not punish him for laughing. He knew Abrahams heart. Ishmael's 12 princes are said to have seeded the Arab nations. Interesting, because that makes the Arab people Semitic if they trace their line to Ishmael or any of the 6 children Abraham fathered with Keturah after Sarah died. It seems that Jews want to own the sole right to be considered Semitic. Truth is, any person descended from Shem is Semitic and anyone descended from Eber is Hebrew, not just the Israelites. Something to think about. maybe broadening our ideas about the people that sprang from that area.

Interesting that He was making the covenant with Abraham, not with Abraham and Sarah. Does this mean that God saw Abraham and Sarah as one inn Abraham, harkening back to Adam and Eve in Genesis?