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Yes, Steven Spencer, He does seal us. I knew some would come up with other works of the Holy Spirit. I did not want to "hog" all of it, but wanted to leave room for others to respond. He convicts the world of sin, said Jesus in the Last Supper discourse.

he comforts us, as Jesus called Him the Comforter. He advocates for us as a lawyer before a judge and Jesus called Him "Advocate".

Hi Carleton, yes, in this life we are bound by our sinful nature which corrupts both our body and soul. It is not just our body that sins, it is our soul also.

We will have a like resurrection as that of Jesus where our physical body is resurrected and reunited with our soul, but both our body and soul will be perfected and glorified. Our body is not any more evil than our soul, both are corrupted by our sinful nature and need redemption. It is clear from Scripture that God has shown us in the resurrection of His Son that we all will have a bodily resurrection. How the life to come will be for us as body, soul, and spirit, we just cannot know in this life, but Scripture is clear, that we will be like Jesus in His human nature, perfectly whole, complete, sinless, and glorified.

Can't wait!

I pray for anyone who is troubled right now to find peace in Jesus name. He told us in John 14 NOT to let our be troubled or alarmed. I pray for peace in your spirit, mind, and soul in Jesus name.

Most commentaries online take the 4th generation mentioned in Genesis 15:16 as just another way of describing the same span of 400 years (or 430 years) that the nation of Israel spent in Egypt which is covered in Genesis 15:12-14. This cannot be the case.

Genesis 15:16 answers Abraham's question in Genesis 15:8 about how he would know God would cause his seed to inherit the land God had brought him out of Ur to see that Abram was standing on in Hebron. The thought of asking God about when his seed would leave Egypt had nothing to do with Abrams question in Genesis 15:8, since he knew nothing about his seed going to Egypt until God revealed His plan in Genesis 15:12-14.

Numbers 14:13-25 shows that God made the Israelites wander in the wilderness according to Moses word, which specifically acknowledged God's right to visit the iniquity of the fathers upon the 3rd and 4th generations. The 1st generation that left Egypt punished as the fathers was 20 years old at the census in Numbers 1:1-54. The 2nd generation was their children who were born in Egypt and seen God's wonders, but who could not enter God's promised land until 40 years of wandering with their fathers had passed. That generation spent a maximum of 40 years of their years in military service wandering in the wilderness.

The 3rd generation would be born over the first 20 years in the wilderness and would spend a maximum of 20 years of their military service wandering in the wilderness. The 4th generation was born in the last 20 years in the wilderness and first served in the army after entering the promised land. The 5th generation spent no time in the wilderness and began entering the army 20 years into Joshua's campaign.

Caleb was promised Hebron when he was 85 years old, which was 5 years after Israel left the wilderness. Caleb was from the tribe of Judah, the first tribe to gain its inheritance, and he obtained Hebron before he turned 100, the age he would be 20 years into Joshua's campaign.

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John 4:35-37 - JESUS said:

35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest.

36 And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth(JESUS sowed) and he that reapeth may rejoice together.

37 And herein is that saying true, One soweth(JESUS was the sower of the Gospel of GOD's Kingdom), and ANOTHER reapeth.

Matthew 13:27 and 30:

27 ... Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

30 Let both grow together until the harvest(said JESUS around 2000 years ago): and in the time of harvest (the time arrived) I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life ETERNAL: that both he that soweth(JESUS sowed) and he that reapeth may rejoice together.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-2 combined with Revelation 14:14-20

GOD bless

Heavenly Father, I agree with Angmbryan7. Bless him by meeting his every need for himself and his family. Healings and deliverances we claim in the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ.

All for Your honor and glory, Heavenly Father through Your son Jesus Christ. Amen

Hello, one thing to note is that according to Dan. ch 7 we learn that the "prophetic" timeline consist of each day representing a literal year. 360 day Jewish year actually. As the 70 weeks allows us to understand. It was of course 490 "years"until the Messiah was revealed. These "time prophecies" are actually consistent on this.

You don't realize that the "moral law" still stands. The "ceremonial law" was a schoolmaster showing the redeemer to come. Which one of those "commandments" am I allowed to trample on?.. Adultery? it's ok, I'm not "under the law" right?.. Honoring my parents?.. nah, why should I? Not under the law right?.. you may want to study further as to what a ceremonial "sabbath" is, and what the eternal "moral" law is. 1 cor 7:19.. explain what are these "commandments"? Revelation 14:12.. what are these "commandments"?

Thanks for your comment to post. Unfortunately, in my response to Chris's post, I forgot to mention the fact that I can also know why God gave us/me His Spirit when I came to Him as a repentant sinner. Because the Spirit is within me to do God the Father's will. The Spirit directs my path, convicts my conscience, and reassures me that when I sin and confess, God forgives and we continue on. He corrects me, humbles me before I get in trouble and is my everyday companion, though sometimes I may not act like He's around. He points me to Jesus always, and Jesus points me to His Father and tells me to keep going and not quit.

One of my many favorite stories in the Word is where Paul is in Athens at Mar's Hill and preaches to them the fact that God is not far from any of us ( Acts 17:27), He's only a prayer away from the vilest sinner and that was me at one time. Thank you, Shabbat Keeper, for allowing me to correct myself, and blessings to you.

Heavenly Father, I along with RicoUS and Gigi, ask You to answer our prayers. Many of Your children are desperate for various difficulties, illnesses. Please heal All of us. Psalms 27:7

We want to show off Your work. Habakkuk 3:2, "O LORD, I have heard Your word, and was afraid: O LORD revive thy workin wrath remember mercy."

Bless the prayer meeting that RicoUS will have this Friday. Amen

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Perhaps in the beginning the year was 12- 30 day divisions (360) days and perhaps the lunar month was also 30 days each. But a major cataclysmic occurrence like the flood or a meteor strike could have altered the orbit of the earth and moon along with the axis of the earth being tilted.

I think that this happened at some time in history. But with that being said. Nothing in the New Testament tells us that we are to gauge the yearly calendar by the Jewish method. What God asked of the Israelites in Exodus, and Deuteronomy and Leviticus was specifically for them at that time in history. In the world at that time people groups had their own calendars with their feast days and holy days and pagan celebrations. God wanted the Israelites to have this calendar He instituted so that this people would remain separate and distinct from the pagan peoples around them, celebrating the feasts, ordinances, and holy days He decided for them (which all point to Christ in some way).

In the Christian era, with Jesus being the completion of the promises, prophecies and fulfillment of all OT Scriptures, a calendar reflecting the life and works of Christ is more appropriate and is not prohibited in the NT writings. Paul says that each of us are to keep feast days, holy days, or Sabbaths according to our conscience or not according to our conscience and that whatever is not of faith is sin. In other words, Paul is saying that these aspects of a calendar year are inconsequential in following Jesus. He is our rule and guide for doctrine and faith.

Having an accurate calendar system helps the Christian family over the centuries with its consistency, aiding in our celebrating Jesus' life, death and resurrection and in conducting life and business in the world we must work in but not be overtaken by worldly ways that are sinful.

So, those who want to follow a Hebrew type of calendar do not sin, and those wish to follow a solar year calendar does not sin either.

Evening meditation. God's wisdom will change our mortal bodies to eternal as they were in the beginning before the fall. The body is of the corrupted seed. Jesus in a perfect body overcame the world and opened the door to heaven for the believer. Like Daniel we can pray openly, without shame, and commune with our God by Jesus Christ. We are free in Christ by our free soul, covered by the blood and washed by the living water of our Lord. In the Kingdom of God there is the blood bought Church which has blood bought members in peace and in unity and in fellowship with one another. They form a better body of faith together, in hope together of eternal life in the Throne of God. In this life in earth the journey has begun for the new in Life but we must at the appointed time shed this earthen vessel for a heavenly vessel as the earthen vessel is subject to this earth and not the Kingdom in Heaven. The Christian is literally in the world but not of the world if we remain faithful to the heavenly body by the Church as Jesus is her head. Someday He will take her to heaven and marry her forever in His Eternal Home at the Throne of God. This body now, the earthen vessel by Grace can remain bound to the Hope in Heaven

like an engagement ring. And yet the body with a spirit made clean is now a symbol or a type for our remaining hours on the earth of the work of Jesus Christ, where this pilgrimage began. Our memory is best at the Cross where we are made common in heavenly places. And so while here as pilgrims and strangers on and in earth we can share the Gospel story of Peace in man.

I do understand that God set out the day for the new year in Exodus 12:2.

It seems that the Jewish calendar eventually became a solar-lunar one with the knowledge of a true orbit of the earth to be 365 days and some part of a day-about 1/4th. The Jewish nation from the exile in Babylon began to use the Babylonian calendar. Julius Caesar began the Roman calendar in 45 B.C. both of these calendars left many days unaccounted for and a need to add months at intervals. The Julian Calendar was revised to a 364 day year, but then this left open one day and 1/4 each year to be made up. The Gregorian calendar was eventually introduced with a 365 day year with a day added to February every 4th year if this day year could be divided by 400.

The Gregorian calendar became the international calendar eventually although some people groups still kept their own particular calendars such as the Jews, Chinese, Persians, Hindu, etc.

Genesis 1:14 says that God put the sun, moon, and stars to give light to the earth and to be used for signs, for seasons, for days, and years. So for me, in the beginning, God declared that all these celestial objects were to be used in creating a calendar that aligns with the equinoxes of the seasons. When science was able to calculate the orbit of the earth more accurately a more accurate calendar year could be set forth. The Gregorian calendar requires only the addition of one day every 4 years instead of weeks and months at the end of the year as the Jewish calendar does.

I find nothing evil or wrong about using a calendar system that most accurately accounts for the days in a year most closely. The Gregorian calendar is such a calendar and keeps the equinoxes in stable positions in the year more than any other calendar used today. It is not perfect, but it works better than any other calendar at this time;

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Can man (the believer who is truly saved, having experienced all of the above), then undo what God has done, drawing himself away into perdition through an unholy desire, & without the immediate intervention of the Spirit within him who has loved Him, sealed him & secured him into the family of God? I know some do believe that we can of our own volition do such a thing & they've even given proof, but the Word clearly shows us that God makes no mistakes, yet we do err when we fail to understand that we simply cannot judge another's salvation or how the Spirit is at work in that wayward one's life to draw him back.

We can never correctly discern a person's salvation before God - we must accept & love all who claim faith in Christ alone, building them up in the faith, & watching out for signs of weakness or departure, but salvation is only of the Lord & He knows His sheep & by their name - not one of his own can stray away for very long. But can even that one sheep decide that he no longer wishes to be under the watchful Eye & Care of the Shepherd or to live amongst that special flock? I believe that God's indwelling & continual ministry of His Spirit in his children will keep them true to Him, even under the greatest pressure, testing or persecution. But "if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his" ( Romans 8:8), should affirm our hearts & keep us confident that not one of His Own shall be lost or even have any desire to depart into the world & sin.

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Hi Valmar. Thanks for addressing my question & I do agree with you on the incomprehensible Work of the Spirit in giving healing, exhortation, etc. What I was looking for pertains to your subject, viz. a believer's eternal security. And also to a comment you made, "the ability to lose one's salvation rests completely with that individual".

The way I understand the Scriptures, is that if we have the ability, or power, to lose/relinquish our salvation, then it presents questions not only to the Spirit's Work in saving a lost soul, but also the power we have to over-ride what the Spirit has done in our lives. Clearly, you believe that a saved sinner can either choose to depart Christ or to remain faithful to Him. My question then is: is it in the new spiritual make-up of the one now found 'in Christ' to ever desire to leave the One Who has delivered Him from so great a penalty & given him a new life with peace, joy & hope? Here, I'm not referring to a saved soul who through negligence or appeal of the flesh or Satan, strays & toys with the world. I'm confident if that soul is saved, then the Spirit will not let him go; and Momsage shared an apt testimony of this very work of God in her & her husband.

So to my question, I believe the more relevant Work of the Holy Spirit in one's life is that: He Convicts man of his sin ( John 16:8-11); He Regenerates, or gives re-birth to the penitent sinner ( John 3:3-7, Titus 3:5, 2 Corinthians 5:17, 1 John 2:29); He Indwells ( 1 Corinthians 6:19, Romans 5:5, John 14:16); He Baptizes ( 1 Corinthians 12:13, Ephesians 4:5); and He Seals ( 2 Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30). I'm sure you're conversant with these Scriptures, showing that salvation & securing is all of God, without any contribution from man. To Page 2.

Amen Gigi!

There's one other thing the Holyspirit does that is very much in context with this post is he "Holyspirit" seals us.

Ephesians 4:30.

And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, WHEREBY YE ARE SEALED (UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION).

Thank you brother S. Spencer - all truth in what you've shared here. Especially, when the Gospel message should be our only focus to save errant souls from a Christ-less eternity. And yet we have here in this KJBO Site, the opportunity to engage with others (believers & non-believers alike) to discuss questions & other matters of interest. Often they are quite beneficial as my own reading of the Scriptures are sometimes challenged & I need to make the effort to not permit strongly held beliefs to influence what I read from others. A hard thing to do, but when one puts himself in the other's shoes, he can understand the matter in a more informed way - and this can only happen within a back-and-forth discussion. Nothing may come of it, but may just cause all who read the thread to re-look at those relevant Scriptures in a new way. The Holy Spirit certainly uses any number of ways to draw us to His Truth - hopefully, each one of us comes in with that understanding & of the grave responsibility in sharing to such a wide audience. Blessings.

Amen Brother Jesse.

I've noticed it for some time now.

God bless.

Well, if she is, I would ask her to identify herself as such for us, not change her screen name, but just say: AKA:Sascha at the end of one of her posts under current screen name.

Same thing with Earl, He can just add AKA:ELB at the end of his posts under his current screen name.

We do wonder and care about those who have participated here and when one changes their screen name, it would be good to know the previous name they went by so we can have continuity of relationship and know who we are interacting with and praying for.

But if it is true that people from a year or so past are still posting here only a different screen name and not willing to identify themselves to their past name, (or to say clearly: I am not 'so-and-so when asked point blank) then it would seem to me that they want to be deceptive about their identity to those of us here. And if that is so, then I would think that to be reason be cautious, prayerful, and clear in our conversation with such people even more so.

Thanks for responding

Oseas.

I suppose as long as the Lord delays his coming we should be spreading the Gospel.

God bless.

Hello Valmar,

I appreciate what you have said here.

I also believe that the Word teaches that the Holy Spirit is the one who regenerates us through the washing of the word.

( Titus 3:5)

He sanctifies us ( John 17:5) ( Romans 15:16) He gives us life (6:63)

The Spirit puts to death the works of sin in us ( Romans 8:13)

He baptizes us into Christ ( 1 Cor. 12:13)

The Spirit gives us access to the Father ( Eph. 2:18)

He teaches us. ( John 14:26)

There are many more things that Scriptures say about what the Spirit does in and for us.

Thank you RicoUS, I believe that God hears our prayers and will answer them as He is our Good Father who loves us and does not withhold good from us.

Thank you Pnovello. I know that God is already at work in Jonathan's body.

Jesus we ask that You heal Johnathan. Heavenly Father, You sent Your Son Jesus to save us, heal us and deliver us from satan's destruction against Your children.

Jesus take the pain away and that it never return. Lord God, we pray that the paralysis be gone and that he can play his harmonica, for it is his job. You blessed him with this musical talent.

I pray that his immune system be normal and that no more allergies, in the Mighty Name of Jesus.

All the honor and glory be given unto You, Lord God Almighty.

Thank You Father God, thank You Jesus Christ and thank You Holy Spirit. Amen

Hello, Chris. Thanks for your inquiry concerning the Holy Spirit and His unique work within the Trinity. I can only know about the Holy Spirit (Spirit) from what the Word tells me, including Jesus Himself. You asked about God's purpose in sending His Spirit to indwell within us. From scripture, especially in the New Testament, it's apparent that He (Spirit) provides spiritual power to heal, rebuke, exhort, encourage, correct, discern, comfort and I'm sure some others. However, even in the Old Testament, prior to the advent of Christ and the Day of Pentecost when the disciples and others were baptized with cloven tongues of fire, we read where David slayed Goliath, Noah built an Ark, Samson slew 1,000 men with an animals jawbone, Daniel faced the lion's den and his 3 confidants a fiery furnace. Let's not forget Abraham and Moses either. I believe the same Spirit was within them also. God won't ask anyone to do anything for Him without giving them the wherewithal to accomplish it. That's where the Spirit comes in and, if we allow Him, can do mighty things for the Kingdom of God. The only requirement is we submit ourselves totally to His purpose... every day. Thanks for your time...

The apostle Paul knew that all those fans were nothing but bondage such as the Sabbath day after the cross.

Galations 4:10] Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.

[11] I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.

Galations 4:21] Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

[22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

[23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

[24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

[25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

[26] But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

[27] For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

[28] Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

[29] But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

[30] Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

[31] So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Shabbat Keeper" and all

In fact, concerning the day of Christ's return, even our Lord JESUS said no man know, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But GOD the Father has given an important and wanderful clue for us to discern not the day, but the moment of this wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable, event of Crist's return, through the prophet Daniel.

Daniel 12:5-7 and 11-12 say:

5 I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

6And one said to the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

7And I heard the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven,and sware by Him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time,times,and and HALF;and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away,and the abomination that maketh desolate set up( Matthew 24:15-25.Take a look),there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.(1260 days of the 2nd half of the last week,week 70th, Daniel 9:27,plus a gap of 30 days).But what does the Word of GOD say and rfeveal unto us?It's in Daniel 12:12:

12Blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.Yeah, day 1335, the wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable day, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to know now when will it be in the calendar, except to GOD the Father who is in control of History, and as said JESUS unto His disciples: "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in His own Power. Note that there will be also a gap of 45 days after 1290 days, then the wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable day 1335 arrives.Then the current world of Devil finish in LITERAL fulfilment of Re.11:15-18.

Get ready

You're welcome Shepherdsheep.

God bless

I thank the LORD for saving me from my sins and giving eternal life with HIM. I pray that I will be faithful in my daily prayers, reading of HIS Word, and witnessing unto others.

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! GOD to shine HIS glorious face on you and your family. GOD bless Jerusalem and their need to call and recognize the LORD JESUS CHRIST as their Messiah.

"The angel of the LORD encampeth around about them that fear HIM, and delivereth them. Psalm 34:7

November 20, 2023

We are to be holy in Christ Jesus as he is our rest our Sabbath everyday. The Sabbath day keepers are hypocrites as they break the Sabbath everytime they get out of bed and do work. The moment they got out of bed, they broke the Sabbath day. The Sabbath day was a day of rest, when you are resting you are not sinning. Jesus became that rest for us ss the Sabbath day was just a shadow of things to come. None of the Jews could keep the Sabbath, they kept breaking it. Christ is the end of the law of Moses the law of righteousness the Sabbath Day.

Isaiah 56:[2] Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.

Isa.11[10] And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Matthew 11:28] Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

[29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

[30] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Hebrews 4:8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

[9] There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

[10] For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

Hebrews 10:1] For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

[2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

Col 2:16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

[17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.