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Hello T. Harjo. I'm unsure to what extent you want to study (or, share from) Psalm 90, but I can give you an outline of the Psalm that you can develop on.

It is the oldest Psalm in the Psalter, accredited to Moses. It can be divided as follows:

Verses 1,2: the eternality of God.

Verses 3-6: the fraility of man.

Verses 7,8: the sinfulness of man.

Verses 9-12: the shortness of life.

Verses 13-17: Moses' prayer for God's Grace upon His people. When we receive His Grace, life will be joyous, His Work in us & for us will be appreciated when seen from His Perspective, & His Blessing will be upon our labours & we will be used of Him.

Mishael . This post brought tears to my eyes this morning . I don't have the words to thankyou adequately . Know for sure that you have many friends on this site and you are loved , for your understanding of the Truth and your compassion towards others , by us and by God . Can't wait to meet you !

Thank you so much . Your post made me smile this morning in England .

Jesus is the Son of David through the genealogy of his mother Mary . I believe it goes back to one of David's sons called Nathan . I have a big old chart made by an American company called the Good Thinks Company from Oklahoma . The chart was manufactured in 1975 , it shows the totall genealogy of Jesus and every major person , and a few minor ones , from the Bible , right back to Adam and Eve .

Yes Luoma , you are right . Remember the plagues in Egypt ? All those terrible things that God brought onto the Egyptians ? The one before last , the thick darkness ? That must have been terrifying ! What happened to the Israelites then ? They had light in all their dwellings ! Christ is our light and we can be sure that God knows how to protect and provide for His own . Stay strong and the reward will be overwhelmingly awesome ! Much love in Christ .

Yes , I've heard that too ,70 years is a generation .

You are perfect in your understanding of this , keep shouting , thankyou .

Hello, I don't think anyone is this thread that I've seen is suggesting to pray to Mary, unless you are? I believe some make Mary into a false god, and many even worship graven images and idols of her and other people in Catholic churches, which I think is clearly a violation of the 2nd of the 10 commandments.

A false teacher is some one that errors?

Or do they not know they are false ?

False doctrines can be like poison I'm told .

What do you think ?

Dee. In the original Greek, the word "mansions" is written as 'Mone'. And this can be translated as 'abode or dwelling places'; some even translate it as 'rooms'. The translators that used the word 'mansions', which is generally considered a 'very large stately building', I think intended to convey the meaning that there are many dwelling places within a large structure.

I had to read your 2nd sentence a couple times. If you don't do what is not taught in the Bible, is that like saying we should do what is taught in the Bible? If so, I agree.

1 Timothy 4.1 Read it ! Why praying to spirits is dangerous , Evil spirits can seduce people into believing they are Gods spirit .

So don't do what is not taught in the bible .

Pray to the father in Jesus name , Jesus is the only mediator between God and man .

Do not be seduced , stick with the clear teaching of the bible .

2 Timothy 3.16 .

What are the theological concepts in Psalm 90?

This is a comment from 12 years ago which could help pinpoint prophesy:

[Itsme Thistime on Jeremiah 24]

Mark 13:28 Christ tells us "Learn the parable of the fig tree" letting us know that it is imperative that those who follow Him learn this scripture. This let's us know we are in the last generation RIGHT NOW, because Judah had not been in Jerusalem since before Christ was born, until 1948 when they were aloud to return after WWII. To rephrase for better understanding, this parable let's us know that the end wouldn't come until Judah returned to Jerusalem. Judah was taken captive by the babylonians hundreds of years before Christ was on the earth, and had not returned until May 15, 1948, signifying the beginning of the last generation, or "the generation of the fig tree".

I asked a Jewish scholar how long a generation is, according to Jews. It's 70 years.

Mishael

I don't want to argue generation time frames, please. Thanks :)

So why not pray to Mary the mother of God ?

Many do !

Let's do what the bible teaches . Amen !

Please pray for The Holy Spirit to say a prayer for the Lord to take back everything the devil has stolen in my life and future and protect me and my children, our homes, jobs, christian defamation of character and everything God has predestined for us and fight our battles right now and forever. the Lord's presence, hope, love, grace, mercy, help, blessing, favor, anointing, deliverance, complete healing , salvation, peace, comfort, provision, increased finances, promotions, good health, success, acceptance from others, respect & agape love from others, safety and God's rescue and hedge of protection and Warring Angels around me, my children, my grandkids, our homes, cars, jobs, churches, health, minds, lives relationships, marriages, businesses & for God to right now and forever protect and save all my children and grandchildren and me and fight all our battles and for God to bless me with a house to own that is big enough to accommodate me, and the desires of my heart being fulfilled, and a saved sanctified man of God that would treat me as Jesus would the Church & to care and protect me, respect and love me, be faithful, committed and marry me & stay married until Jesus comes in the rapture. Prayer for us to find a good Bible based church with true leaders of God, for God to protect us and give us all peace in Jesus Name.

TWO Enochs in the Bible

Enoch (Hebrew: meaning "initiated") is a name in the Hebrew Bible used by two separate figures who lived during the generation of Adam.

The first Enoch was the SON OF CAIN.

He is the father of Irad. After Cain arrived in the Land of Nod, to which he was evicted by the Lord as his punishment for murdering his brother Abel. His wife became pregnant and bore Cain's first child, whom he named Enoch.

The SECOND Enoch was a descendant of SETH, the third son of Adam, and great-grandfather of NOAH ( Genesis 5:22-29). SETH is the bloodline of Jesus Christ ancestors and Must Not be Confused with Cains ancestor.

First Book of Enoch was at first accepted in the Christian Church but later excluded from the biblical canon. Its survival is due to the fascination of marginal and heretical Christian groups, such as the Manichaeans, with its syncretic blending of Iranian, Greek, Chaldean, and Egyptian elements.

Justin, Athenagoras, Irenaeus, Clemens Alexandrinus, Lactantius, and others borrowed an opinion out of this Book of Enoch, that the angels had connection with the daughters of men, of whom they had offspring (Nephilim: 'the giants of the past'). Tertullian, in several places, speaks of this book with esteem; and would persuade us, that it was preserved by Noah during the deluge. The Book of Enoch, however, was rejected by Origen, Jerome and Augustin as spurious.

[newworldencyclopedia DOT ORG]

Mishael comment: there is Much confusion as to the First Enoch, son of CAIN (who was cursed by God), in Genesis.

Satan seeks to confuse people by causing those who are following to use THE BLOODLINE NAMES of Jesus's Geneology twice.

It helps to find charts made by reputable ministers on Google and compare carefully to the KJV record. Often charts will be disputed by those who dispute the person and Holy Lord Jesus. It all originated in Genesis.

Stay on task and don't incorporate heresy.

Hello Brother Dan , I will be happy to use scripture for you in discussions. It takes more time that I do not always have. However within my thoughts there is more room for more thoughts which leads to more scriptures. So where to start and where to finish? Love to you. You know by the Spirit of God whether a nice paragraph speaks to you or not. I know you do because the written Word of God dwells in the redeemed.

God bless our faithfulness.

Thank you again brother Bill & for the clarification of that Scripture. I too have to exercise care.

I gather from your comments on 2 Corinthians 5:1-8, you apply that Scripture to the Rapture. Whereas, I see it as the physical death of a believer & the immediate transition of his spirit into the Lord's Presence (i.e. while we're alive we're not in the Lord's Presence (Heaven) - then death ought to be welcomed because it means that we no longer have to 'groan' in our burdens of mortal life). I see that the apostle longed to be taken from this Earth, yet his earthly work must go on until the Call to come Home. Also Philippians 1:21-24: Paul expressing the same.

I'm unsure whether Paul began to doubt the 'timing' of the Lord's Coming; I think he lived in expectation of it given that the last days were always in view post-Crucifixion. I do recall Peter, in 2 Peter 3:3 ff, describe the condition of those 'scoffers' who will try to nullify the Lord's Promises, by saying, "Where is the promise of his coming?" And of course, Peter proceeded to show that the Lord's Promises are certain, as they were in Noah's day, & the utter destruction of the Earth by fire in latter days. That we cannot discern the times that God alone sets. If the Lord's Coming hasn't occurred as yet, "until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in" then that has to be the Lord's Determination.

2 Timothy 2:10-13. I take in your thoughts on this, though again, I see it differently. Paul shares 4 contrasts (from the last one): if we are faithless (faith deficient), He remains faithful; if we deny Him, He will deny us; if we suffer for Him, we will reign (in triumph) with Him; if we have identified with Him (in dying to sin & the old life, even as He died for us to give us salvation), we will enjoy eternity with Him. Excuse my thoughts added here, but as much as I agree that there's allusion to the resurrection of the body, I see it as specifically to the Promise made to those who have died to sin & self.

Dear Carl, I have the exact question about ten days as you. I have worried over this part of v10. Thanks for asking. I wish I knew. Best, Mike.

We have to keep the faith that God will show us and lead us the right way and not to take that mark, that's when the Holy Spirit will speak through us, & we have to let him do it, What's going to be hard is not being able to buy, trade, or sell. Put food up in your cabinets, and save gold medals to trade for food. God always shows us a way out, we can depend on that, Don't take the mark

Thank you brother for those comments. I will leave off the matter of appearance of the evil spirit impersonating Samuel & the witch's response, or else that not being the case, it depends how one reads & comprehends that passage. Your view does have merit & worthy of further examination in light of other Scriptures.

However, you wrote: "the enemy knows what was already spoken by the true God". That is true & even as we earlier referred to Genesis 3:1-4. But the point I raised was, can devils know what has NOT been earlier spoken by God? In other words, is the spirit of prophecy with both the Holy Spirit & evil spirits? As far as I know, the fact of Saul's & his son's death happening on the following day - the fact of the army of Israel losing the battle to the Philistines are all unknown facts (though possible in Saul's mind), that are apparently well known to this 'evil spirit' impersonating Samuel. That is what I cannot fathom - it's not just a case of truth mixed with lies - here we have a prophetical utterance of what is yet to happen, that was undeclared earlier by God to any prophet.

God is not the father of the dead !!!! As a matter of fact, no one is dead as of yet , an there is only one person who is written of that is to definitely die , an that of course is Lucifer in Ezekiel chapter 28 , but as we read in Ecclesiastes chapter 12 vs 6 & 7 , the flesh returns to dust , an the returns to God who gave it,.. an in Luke chapter 16 we learn of the 2 sides of heaven with an impassable gulf in between,.. an of course, absent from this body is present with the lord in 2nd Corinthians chapter 5 vs 7 & 8 ,.. so please, be of sound mind and cheerful, no one is in some hole in the ground, " "death where is your sting grave where is your victory "

Luke 18-38 How is that they call Jesus son of David at church today that was the worship song it was a little troubling

It was in this book of Scripture that I felt that deep abiding love for all things through Jesus Christ. He is all that truly matters in this life. Nothing is more fulfilling than having the Holy Spirit as He reveals the truth of God's eternal plans for those who seek after the Lamb that was slain for all sinners. Free will is an amazing thing to ponder, you and I are given the choice for life with Christ or life without Christ for all eternity. That should make us fear the Lord and make us so very humble, for all that the Cross means. Our sins so easily separate us from the GREATEST LOVE that ever was, the Love that forgives us all our sins! May it ever amaze us today and every day til Jesus returns for those of us He calls His own. Unspeakable joy should overwhelm our souls as we feed on the Word of the Lord. Thank you Jesus for Eternal Life, the most generous gift of all. May we sing with joy the Everlasting truths of God's Word. PRAISE THE LORD! Lift high the Royal banner! Proclaim Jesus Christ from the mountain tops.

Your exactly right. You sleep. Like suspended animation. Because time doesn't exist in eternity. Whether you pass a thousand years ago or today, we're all asleep until he comes again. TY for your clarification!!!

Brother Adam, maybe our definition of FREE WILL differ. FREE would dictate that; that WILL, would have no CAUSE making it occur other than yourself.

Man makes CHOICES thousands or time a day; but those CHOICES have a CAUSE:

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh in you TO WILL and TO DO ....

They is never an effect without there first being a CAUSE.

God is sovereign and the CAUSE of everything.

Romans 2:4 Man repents be CAUSE of the goodness of God

Philippians 1:29 You BELIEVE be CAUSE Christ CAUSES you to believe.

Galatians 1:20 You have faith be CAUSE Christ GIVES you HIS faith.

John 6:44 No one comes to Christ with a CAUSE, the Father draws that person to Christ.

God CAUSES and DOES everything, man is the benefactor of CAUSES of GOD.

Colossians 1:17 ...and by him all thing consist.... even you CHOICES.

John 15:5 ...you can of yourself DO NOTHING...

Lina, may God's favour continue to shine upon you.

Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a son, yet he learned obedience by the things which he SUFFERED.

We bear the same cross and walk the same path to Calvary.

1 Corinthians 15:31 ...We DIE daily..

Romans 6:6 ...our old man was crucified with him .....

Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nonetheless I LIVE, yet not I, but Christ LIVETH IN ME: and the life I now live IN THE FLESH I live by the FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery ...CHRIST IN US .....

GBU

I had been an astrologer for some years. I had a difficult salvation because Satan doesn't like to lose servants (I didn't know I was serving). I saw Jesus in a vision while doing a chart on Yom Kippur. He showed hell to me too. I was standing on a chair in terror. It's not fire or a lake. Isa 14 describes twisted roots so dense you can't get out. After a time I became convinced someone was extending a Hand towards me from the ceiling. I reached up and closed my fingers on it. Someone delivered me from demons. The screams were from me. It was difficult. The next morning when I woke up in the floor I felt free. The Holy Spirit has been with me every day since.

He helped me do Acts 19:19. He sent a friend over so I could say I was Saved. Nothing has been simple for me (like Paul) but I've never returned to the vomit I had been living in.

Maybe a month, I cried out to the Lord Jesus for new friends. I was blessed abundantly! I was given that movie, Jesus of Nazareth, and every time I watch it (even now), I cry buckets. I don't think deliverance really ends. It's Jesus helping us work through our salvation. Even though we're saved, He prepares His servants. I was a baby Christian out on the sidewalks looking for others like I was; street ministry. I love my life no matter what comes my way.

It hurts to see Jesus in the crucifixion scenes, because I know did that. I was blind spiritually and then I owned my part in his suffering and dying. Then I learned to Worship and Praise. I gave myself fully to the Godhead. Father is my Abba! I loved my Dad enough to threaten Death from taking him away from me. I love God more than that. Jesus loves me, and His love is sacred. The Holy Spirit helps me every time I call; which is a lot! I sit with Jesus in my closet and pray together for Israel and lost people all over the world. I'm rich in the spirit. I never felt so much love in all my 70yrs. He's coming for us soon :D

Let's rejoice now.

Mishael

Hi Earl,

It sounds like your argument is based on an assumption.

"If man has FREEWILL, why does man ALWAYS chose EVIL, why wouldn't at least a FEW men choose to never sin. If they have FREEWILL."

To challenge this assumption, I may ask why you assume a 'few' wouldn't sin and where would this expectation come from? I don't have this expectation that flawed humans can be perfect, so I wonder why you assume freewill would make such a feat possible?

Is it possible that you're conflating freedom of choice with supernatural powers? Perhaps thinking freewill is more than just a choice, but like a free wish from God?

I may 'choose' to be the tallest man in the world, but that doesn't mean I will be. Our choices only occur within our own reality. I can wish to be in Hawaii right now, but that's different than me choosing and making subsequent plans to actually go there. Our freewill doesn't mean we can transcend reality and have magical powers, so I don't think freewill helps someone be perfect. It's closer to the opposite. If we were robots we'd have no choice and would likely operate morally perfect as designed. God hates sin and doesn't make anyone sin, but if you don't have any freewill you would have to explain that contradiction. But since we do have freewill, it's not a contradiction. With freewill we're tempted every day nearly 24/7 and face constant moral choices throughout our lives and it seems unrealistic to assume that an imperfect human can somehow choose to be perfect.

Did I understand your question correctly and does anything I wrote resonate?