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1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible (seed), BY THE WORD OF GOD, which liveth and abideth forever.
By reading and speaking God's word, these words began to overcome you, and you began to become ONE with these words, UNTIL:
John 17:21 That they all may be ONE; as thou, Father art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
John 17:22 And the glory thou hast given me, I HAVE GIVEN THEM, that they may be ONE, even as we are ONE:
John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they maybe made PERFECT IN ONE; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou has given me, BE WITH ME WHERE I AM; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast give me: for thou lovest me before the foundation of the world.
Christ is IN HIS CREATION ( Colossians 1:27) bring them to the Father, when you depart this flesh YOU are going to be with Christ in HIS CREATION, bringing HIS CREATION to TRUTH ( Revelation 10:11).
The referenced scripture regards the piercing of the ear of a Hebrew slave that has decided to remain with their master after serving 6 years of service.
Additional scripture:
Exodus 21:1-6
1Now these are the judgments which thou shalt set before them. 2If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. 3If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself. 5And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: 6Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
They lived a very different lifestyle than we do today - thank God!
God Bless
Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Spirit, truth, life) that WORKETH in you both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
He will make each of PERFECT in his appointed time.
Be still and behold the salvation of God.
There is never a reason to be ashamed, we are his creation and he knows how to make each of COMPLETE.
Any TRUE brother or sister understands this.
God uses you, but it's him not you.
God's grace covers ALL.
You have a gift let God express it through you.
If I may give my understanding, did Jesus speak in parables, if so, why? Luke 8:10. In this chapter Jesus was condemning putting faith in wealth and not God, using parables. The Sadducees especially were covetous, they flaunted their wealth and the seat of authority they had and were living in adultery. The Pharisees held many spiritual beliefs not found in the Law of Moses and started in on Jesus. So, according to the rest of the context, Lazarus and the rich man was most likely a parable on the same subject.
One thing I have found that bears consideration on Luke 16 parable. When Jesus first came, many of the Jews were highly Hellenized and many interpretations of the Law had changed. Greek had become for many the major language and Greek philosophy was deep.
We see when Stephen and others were chosen to tend to the Hellenized (Grecian) Christian Jewish widows Acts 6:1-5. This parable would have been understood by the heavy Greek influence about death that still influences today. Jesus explains many of the parables to the disciples but this explanation is not recorded. But, is just being poor worthy of the gift of eternal life?
If our soul or spirit is immortal why would scripture say we are mortal and must put on immortality and this happens at the resurrection. 1 Corinthians 15:53-57. Does it not say we are sown in corruption, 1 Corinthians 15:42-44? Is not resurrection rising from the dead not descending from the living?
When this body dies what is left? Scripture tells us without spirit our body dies, James 2:26. Spirit, Latin spiritus, Greek pneuma, is breath, life, and consciousness, being awake, aware of your surrounding and how we respond to it either with vigor or idleness 1 Corinthians 2:11.
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You stated: "to learn the Truth by reading God's Word for themselves"
Well said! I will also take up your offer to pray, that I, along with you, and others, may endeavor to read and understand the scriptures with the help of God's Holy Spirit. Amen.
Luke 24:45
"Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,"
Good Bless.
When we die it is the same as when we sleep, we are not conscious, we are asleep in Jesus, Psalm 146:4 Ecclesiastes 9:5,10 we have no knowledge of our surroundings or time. This is the spirit that goes back to God who gave it. Ecclesiastes 12:7.
1 Thessalonians 4:14, when Jesus returns, this earth is round and those that are Christs will come from all over, and we see different places describing the gathering, Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 along with Jesus, God brings those that are Christs with Him, the second coming back to earth to set up the kingdom on earth. I understand those who believe in the rapture being carried to heaven will disagree.
Soul; Hebrew, nephesh, meaning a soul, living being animal or human, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion. Greek psuch meaning, life, as the seat of affections and will, the self, the conscience, the individual. In our conscience that is in our soul is where the battle of the desires of the flesh and the Spirit. This is what remains asleep in the grave where ever the grave may be, awaiting resurrection when we put on immortality. Psalms 49:15 John 5:28-29
When are we absent from this body? 2 Corinthians 2:6-10 When do we appear at the judgment seat? 1 Thessalonians 2:19 1 Corinthians 15:22-23. When is a corn plant absent from its seed is it not when it springs forth from its grave of the earth? We are sown and until we are resurrected, being changed like the corn seed from corruption to incorruption, and this mortal puts on immortality being freed from this body of corruption, then we will be present with the Lord.
Sorry I got wordy I am sure not all will agree but that is ok this is just what I see.
God bless us all in the love of Jesus.
RLW
October 23, 2021
Please continue to pray for the family needing salvation and deliverance and Angelic intervention and binding of demonic assaults , physical assaults, and that God would raise up an invisible shield around the souls, spirits, and minds of those on the receiving end of verbal assaults and emotional trauma.
That The Sweet Holy Ghost would speak into their spirits all of Gods promises and love for these domestic abuse victims (especially the children who's Angels always behold the face of The Father) and divinely protect them.
And that God would bring the perpetrators to their knees with conviction, with fear, and trembling, and repentance,
That they would be willing to receive Gods Forgiveness, mercy, deliverance, and salvation. That they would fully repent. And serve The Living God Almighty with their whole hearts.
No more hiding but healing instead. Let go.and let God
In Jesus name Amen!
So, where does the spirit reside, we do not know the physical location. On this side of heaven, we will never know. Paul says that we will know as we are known in 1 Corinthians 13:12.
Even if the answer as to the physical location of the spirits of the dead, could we comprehend with our lowly human brain? Surely not. However, one day we will know everything about everything.
I love your words "I can understand & appreciate the "twofold purpose" of the 'parable'; for indeed tis true, but the third purpose I see that leaps out to the reader, is of the awful torment that awaits those who have given little regard to God's Laws & practice of 'true religion". This point is either missed or ignored by so many professing Christians. Well said.
Paul's writings, in addition to being very complicated and sometimes confusing, reflect a belief that he would still be alive at the second coming of Christ. This is also true for John the Revelator. Given this view of the quickness of the return, some passages must be looked upon as reflecting this belief.
2 Corinthians 5:8 must be read within the context of the first 7 verses for understanding. I do not read verse 8 as being an immediate transferring of the spirit from the body to heaven but as a comparison of the bodily tabernacle and its earthly existence to the tabernacle that awaits us in heaven. To me, Paul is expressing his, and perhaps our, desire to pass from the earthly existence into an existence with Christ and God, but without a timetable of it being immediate.
I thank you for our conversations and find them extremely enlightening.
May God grant you a blessed day my brother in Christ.
Bill
I agree, it's a disaster. Everyone wants to create their own interpretation of scripture, rather than read and accept the GOD'S WORD at face value. God made the main message simple for everyone to understand, yet many want to make it so complicated.
It really brings home this scripture:
Matthew 7:14-15
14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT! Jesus knew that few will preserver with HIS WORD!
Next here you go:
15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Many church's/congregations today seem to be more concerned with growing the congregation, and increasing their income, than preaching the WORD.
This scripture is so true:
2 Timothy 4:3
"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"
Something said here by Jesus that is so simple and easy to understand, but many will still turn their backs on Jesus:
John 14:15
"If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Happy Sabbath Day, and God Bless.
Good morning brother Chris!
Oh, the power of this discussion! So much to share together and expand our minds in the Spirit.
Your last post opens a wealth of information contained in both the Old and New Testaments as we know them.
We must agree that we have, and will keep, very separate views of the story of the beggar, Lazarus. I have no problem with our differing views as it is my firm conviction, that with few verese excluded, God reveals truth on an individual basis. This is where we two are on this scripture.
My personal belief is that ALL souls do, and always have, leave the body and go to a "holding place" until the gathering of the church by Christ. Further, I do not believe there is a "chasm" between the good and bad souls across which the two sides can see and talk with each other; prior to the resurrection or afterward.
Revelation 20:14 says that death and hades, Greek, (Sheol Hebrew), are thrown into the lake of fire. Why? Because they are no longer part of God's realm - death will be absent in eternity and the residence of the souls is unnecessary because of the judgment of the non-believer in verse 20:11.
I believe Revelation 20:14 explains the place all souls reside after death until the gathering of the church and the following judgment of the lost. If the place is named, its location is not. However, it does exist and verses indicate Christ visited Sheol during the three days prior to the resurrection - 1 Peter 3:18-20; Ephesians 4:9-10, (see Psalms 68:18, Isaiah 61:1-2, and Luke 4:18).
Why would Christ visit the souls in Sheol? All covenants before that of Christ did not include salvation, only atonement for sin by animal blood. The spirits of all that died prior to the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ were given the chance to acknowledge Christ and His salvation to allow them to be participants in the salvation provided by the resurrection.
God would have none perish in the eternal fire as He is love.
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