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That was a great testimony to read, brother Arnold. Even in your relatively new walk with the Lord, you show an extremely mature understanding & performance of your relationship to the living Christ. I feel that the Lord will indeed bless & use you further as you walk in step with His Spirit, desiring to give Him all the Glory & as you remain behind the Cross in your witness. The Lord bless you richly, as I also remember others here who seek every opportunity to make Christ known through their words & life.

Hi David. Just to clarify Genesis 9:22, "And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without."

The word "without" here, is an older English word usage, meaning 'outside'. It is supposed to be the opposite of 'within'. We use 'within' often, but not so with, 'without'. Therefore, when Ham saw (or, observed) his father's condition, he went & told his two brothers who were 'outside' the tent. So when the brothers, knowing their father's state, approached the tent opening, they put a (large) material across their shoulders & walked backwards into the tent to cover their father & in so doing gave him due respect.

Yes Helen, "It is a" & "thing" are all italicized because those four words don't appear in Hebrew, from which the translation was made. If you read it in Hebrew, it would read, "The Sabbath good to give thanks Yahweh and to sing praises to Your name Most High". So, the translators needed to add those extra words, to give it sense in English.

Pray for me and my family to be filled. Bible says those who thirst after righteousness shall be filled.

Thank you.

Matthew 2:8

Herod wanted to murder Jesus

[The three wise men]

12 And being Warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.

13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to murder him.

In Psalm 92:1 it looks like "a" is italicized in "It is a good thing"

Is that correct?

thanks

Wesley's Notes for Acts 9:5

To kick against the goads - is a Syriac proverb, expressing an attempt that brings nothing but pain.

People's Bible Notes for Acts 9:5

Acts 9:5 Who art thou, Lord? Sure that it was a supernatural communication, though he might possibly suspect its source, he did not yet know that it came from Christ. Perhaps at times he had had misgivings that he might be wrong, but he was sincere. I am Jesus. It is not said, "the Christ", but JESUS, the crucified one against whom Saul was raging. Had the answer been "the Christ", or the Son of God, Saul might still have doubted whether this was Jesus. [It is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks. Omitted here by the Revised Version, but found in Acts 26:14. The idea is that he is injuring himself, like the ox that kicks back on the goads used to urge him forward.

Acts 9:5

And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks (goads).

Acts 22:8

And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

Acts 26:15

And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.

Mishael: another thing is this= Jesus always says Follow Me. He says today is the day of salvation. He's here today!

No one else is coming. If you hear his call today, follow Him.

There is a Link on the red page, Become A Christian. It's a lot to read, but I think it will answer your question. Come back, if it doesn't, ok?

Genesis 24 is a LOVE STORY. Abraham's Servant is a view of the Holy Spirits work. Read the story and capture the details between Abraham and the Servant; and the Bride to be and the Servant. Isaac had to practice patience.

You have to pray much for the servant and the bride. Trust me, internet connections rarely connect.

Instead he had to put all his faith and trust in the servant. He was rewarded with a wonderful wife whom he loved all of his days. See verse 67 :D

This tells me that our relationship with the Holy Spirit should be close. He knows where your future wife is. Prayer and communication with Holy Spirit is important. You want to be equally yoked. I especially like verse 65. She sees Isaac the first time__as in Wowie!!

You're not being a traitor to your church if you visit singles groups in other similar churches.

Think on these things

No words are missing in the KJV Bible. The meaning has been the same for more than 400 years since its first printing, which can easily be verified on a website like this. People sometimes make false assumptions about it though. I trust God's word over man's word any day.

In the middle of your statement, you said "no other time in the bible that can account for the black race." I'm not sure where you get your information from. While the Bible doesn't explain all answers to all questions we have, it does say a lot. Maybe your question is where do races come from. Two common theories exist- some believe Noah's family was diverse and spread out into different people groups from there. And others, including myself, believe God's work at the Tower of Babel included changes to culture and race, along with the already disclosed language creation and regional placement across the earth. God bless.

Jesus, comes back only one's so the one that comes before him saying I am jesus cometh with me he is the false one, so open your eyes all will be in spirit when , Crist comes back so how can be lifted behind?

Ecclesiasticus 44:16

"Enoch pleased the Lord, and was translated, being an example of repentance to all generations."

I like that Enoch is considered an example of repentance to all generations. If he was a great example of repentance, he began having sins to repent of and through his repentance was transformed to become a righteous man who walked with God. This should give us all hope that we too may fully repent of our sins and be transformed to become like Christ and walk with God.

I think it means to all that belief in is will, with crist as ther, Savoy you know your going to de saved. So the ones that do not open their eye, and the ones that see but turn their backs to him will be, left out of God's glories

Family,

Good evening. Hope all is well in your lives. I'd like to share with everyone how my day went. I was contemplating going to a friends son birthday party because it was a Holloween theme and well I hate that holiday. I just was very apprehensive and just kept thinking and thinking. It's not until a few hours later where I went to Jeremiah 17 where it says "Blessed is he who trusteth in the Lord and who's hope is. So, I was anxious even going but when I got there I had my eyes, mind, heart set on Jesus. I had a smile on my face of joy because I know he was with me. I don't like those type of environments but I love my savior and although I am not a long time Christian and need more guidance I know he lives in me. There's no other way I would've been able to be there if it wasn't for the peace of God that he gives through his son. I wanted to share that with y'all. I let some people know what happened to me and how God has blessed me. A kid that was jumping fell and I prayed for him. God is so good. This is not to boast or I don't want it to sound like I'm being self righteous. I just wanted to express that I can't do anything without him. God bless you all. I love you. - Arnold

Daniel and the others had to learn the language of their captors. After 70 years they were set free. They could speak Hebrew again. That's all I'm sure of.

Israel was captured periodically because of worshipping idols. That happens all through the Bible.

This would mean reading all of the Bible.

Hebrews Chapter 9

25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of HIMSELF.

27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

[People die naturally, or in many other ways.

Only the people who die with their names recorded in the Book Of Life, will be raised to life again. They've already been judged when they received Jesus's Salvation.

Everybody not written in the Book of Life will be judged at the Great White Throne Judgement. All good deeds, sins and refusal to receive Jesus's free gift of Salvation, will be Reviewed. The sentence of death will remain.]

Eternal life, OR Eternal death are the only choices.

I Richard Gardner, do not think the rapsher, is God's will, I think the false, one he now comes first saying he is crisis will be the one saying come I am the to worship I will save you if you come with me. Crist sayith we all in a blink of. A eye will be spits

@ Paul's writing not being ( commandment ) remember ?? Corinthians??? If any man think himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things I write unto you ARE THE COMMANDMENT OF THE LORD .

About women not speaking in the church ?????!!!!In Corinthians ? Have you read ? (Close ???) If any man think himself to be a prophet or spiritual ! Let him acknowledge that the things I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord ,,,,

In Jesus Name and by the Power of his authority, I bind your evil works and command you to wander in outer darkness!

[Then you must clean your home of all cursed things and destroy them. Close all the "doors".

Your enemies are invisible.

Can you pray for my mental health.

I'm in a different country and would meet people that I think are of the same understanding of the word or God , thats a long process for me .

Thanks for the dialog , I have been to Northern California a number of times , it's a beautiful state .

Precious friend, the "gift" of tongues is Very Controversial. So, let us prayerfully Consider, According to Scriptures:

Under God's Law, in HIS 'Prophetic' Program, believe AND be water baptized 'to be saved':

1) doctrine: tongues, with Other 'signs,' Would Follow them that believed Mark 16:16-20

2) execution of doctrine: those in the upper room, waiting, received the Baptism "With" The Holy Spirit "Poured out From CHRIST, for power" and each, from Many nations, "heard the Wonderful Works of God, IN his OWN tongue {'KNOWN' language}" Acts 2:1-11

During the 'transition' from Law over to GRACE, after Paul was saved Acts 9:

3) This 'power' was Also Given to the "first Gentiles saved," Acts 10:44-45

4) In the 'carnal' Corinthian assembly, what is the 'purpose' of tongues? One teacher offers this: "Tongues are a sign for the believer." According To The Scriptures, God Clearly Says:

1Co 14:22 "Wherefore tongues are for a sign, Not to them that believe, but to them that believe Not:..."



Thus, Always BE VERY CAREFUL of "what men say," ok? But study:

Rightly Divided ( 2Ti 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

After the 'transition' period, and God's "Dispensation of GRACE is Fully Implemented," is there still a "Confirming {sign} need" for the gift of tongues? Again, What Saith The Scripture about three gifts?:

5) 1Co 13:8-10 "...whether there be tongues, they shall cease;...when That Which Is Perfect Is Come, then that which is In Part Shall Be Done Away."

IF "That Which Is PERFECT Has Come!" then there 'should' be No Controversy about tongues/interpretation, since they "Have Ceased!" Correct?

And, Further, God Teaches us, Under HIS GRACE: "...we walk BY FAITH, 'Not' by sight {signs, experience, feelings, emotions, etc.}" 2Co 5:7

More "tongues Have Ceased" study: Link

why would the three wise men not return to king herod

God said his Spirit would not always be with us.

Man needed to listen and obey as he try's to turn all people around .

Its knot his will that any should perish but all come to him and repent.

He lay his life down for us we need give him ours.

Well canaan, the son of ham was cursed with a darker hue, and that's been toking out by are trusty bible Scholars, so they don't have to talk about slavery. But, ham's son was cursed because Noah couldn't curse ham, because GOD Blessed Noah and his 3 Son's before they step out of the ark, so canaan was ham's first born, and therefore he had to be the one that Noah cursed. I pray this answer the question you had. GOD Bless.

Thank you Grace for sharing God's Word as relating to tongues. I feel the need to share a story I was told by a missionary some years back. I can't recall what country he was in, but for the sake of his witness we'll call it Thailand. He had told me that during one of there church services a women had spoken out in a tongue, but there was no interpretation. After the service was over, an older Chinese woman asked the woman who had spoken out in a tongue, if she knew what she had said. She answered that she had no idea, but was certain that she was praising God the whole time. The older Chinese woman told her no she was not, and in fact, the entire time she was using her "tongues" she was actually cursing God. Needless to say the woman who spoke out in a "tongue" repented and never used it again. With that said, please be careful all that speak in a "tongue" or "heavenly language", because you no not want to give service to the enemy. May God give us eyes to see and ears to hear all of what He would have for us.

There is a lot of missing words here, it says, he told his two brothers without. And goes on to the next verse, without What? It supposed to say "without covering his nakedness, also the bible scholars don't want to talk about it, but the curse before it was taken out to be politically correct, but it should say that canaan was cursed with a darker hue, meaning that he was the start of the black race, you can argue until the cows come home, but if that curse of a darker hue didn't mean black, then where did they come from, there is no other time in the bible that can account for the black race, it's not saying anything offensive to the black race, we are all sinners, and fall and fall short of the glory of GOD, when you start taking out the word of GOD, because you don't want to talk about slavery, well then you are doing the Devil's Work, and leading people astray on to the road of destruction, I can't in good faith ask for any mercy on their soul.

Brother Ronald.

Part 2. Genesis 2:25.

Lets look at Genesis 2:17. But of the tree of the (knowledge of good and evil,) thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Let's take Genesis 3:7-11. ( And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;) and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Verse 9: And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, ( Where art thou?)

Here in verse 9. I don't think God is speaking of their location, I think He is speaking of their condition.

"No one can hide from God."

And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and ( I was afraid, because I was naked;) and I hid myself.

" It's Interesting Adam is afraid because he was naked, rather than his disobedience."

Verse 11. And he said, ( Who told thee that thou wast naked? ) Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

Genesis 3:22. And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

It seems the text goes a little further than just their disobedience, There's a lot of emphasis on being Naked and knowing it. Sinful flesh exposed Maybe? The consequence of knowing is where the threat lies! Why? Perhaps so they want attempt to cover themselves when Christ was ordained to come into the world before the world began. The blood of Christ was to be their covering. That's why I hold the view God provided them covering from a blood shed sacrifice pointing to Christ.

Gen. 3:21. Unto Adam also and to his wife did the "LORD God" make coats of skins, and clothed them.

Have you noticed verse 21 "LORD" God is used? The covenant name, This where the sacrifices started and the sacrifices pointing to Christ. It was taught to Cain and Abel. Only after the resurrection GOD spirit would Dwell "IN" man.

Hebrews 10:14-20.

God bless.

Scriptural for; ""ten men shall take hold of you and say , take us as your servants for we know God is with you!"""

Hi Brother Ronald.

Part 1.

As I promised once I settle back at home I would reach out and continue our dialog on the 1st Adam and 2nd Adam.

RECAP.

As I said I don't believe God dwelled "IN" Adam. Below is some of the previous references below.

The spirit now dwells in us only by the blood of Christ cleansing of the temple.

( 1 Corinthians 3:16. )

( Hebrews 10:14-22. )

Therefore we have boldness to enter into Gods presence and so would have Adam "if" Gods spirit dwelled in him. He would have never been moved out of the Garden because of ( 1 John 3:9. )

Here is the difference between the 2 Adams- ( 1 Corinthians 15:45-50. )

Verse 45- And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a

( quickening spirit.) "Life giving spirit." Whether Adam sinned or not he could never give us eternal life.

Verse 46- Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. We also inherit that which is natural not because Adam sinned, " Because he was made a living soul. So is our 1st birth.

Here is a quote from part 1 of your reply:

"When God formed the first Adam and made Eve out of his rib, they were in the garden naked and they were not ashamed ( Genesis 2:21-25). Their conscience was clean and white, not touched with sin, a dwelling place where God could communicate directly to Adam. After sin we see the voice of God walking, we know who that was.

If we look at all the scripture about our conscience it is where evil or good dwells. We are convicted by our conscience, our conscience records every thought, every intent, every imagination whether good or evil, it is the part of us that is recorded in the books that will be opened. This is why the law fell short it could cleanse the flesh but was uncapable of cleansing the conscience. ( Hebrews 9:8-14) ( Hebrews 10:1-12)." End quote.

In part 2 I will address the view I hold on Adam and Eve being naked.

See Part 2.

Thank you.