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Thank You Sister

Brother Adam, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

1 Thessalonians 4:17

The born again of SPIRIT, starting with the apostles and all thereafter, until the present, are ALIVE AND REMAINING NOW, in the PRESENCE of SPIRIT clothed in the BODY OF CHRIST. ( 1 Corinthians 15:54)

He who is born of SPIRIT is SPIRIT.

God is SPIRIT, Spirit is GOD.

Psalms 82:6

John 10:34-35

John 17:21-22

Isaiah 27:12

The DEAD awaiting the resurrection back to flesh, can not be caught up in to the clouds (born again of Spirit) until they are judged and die the SECOND DEATH (Truth, Life, the Way), then they CAN ALSO become SON'S OF GOD.

Isaiah 26:9

Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the CREATURE waiteth for the manifestation of the SONS OF GOD.

Romans 8:21 For the CREATURE ITSELF shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption (flesh) into the glorious liberty of the SONS OF GOD (Spirit).

Thank you Brother Earl,

May we always walk and be led by the Holy Spirit of truth and in the light that we will not stumble and if we do, we can see to get up.

God bless,

RLW

When the Bible says He causeth all, small and great, free and bond, rich and poor to receive a mark in their right hand or in their forehead,..

I am just trying to get more clarification on this.

Thank you

Part 1

Brother Chris, I thank you for your reply from the bottom of my heart and the love you show in it. I guess we will have questions until we die, and I feel our search for answers, if we humble ourselves in love as knowing nothing, in the body of Christ our walk will only be in the Spirit of truth. It's like when we were a child and we asked Daddy, Why.

Your first question; why is His only begotten Son the only one that could die for us? We think of this question mostly of me and not us, why did God send His only begotten Son to die for, rotten old me? Who am I? The unfulfilling answer is God loves us ( John 3:16) ( Romans 5:6-10.) Throughout the New Testament, God is referred to as Father, God wanted a family ( Ephesians 1:4-5). That started on day six and I feel things happened then that were not written, but that is another discussion.

The only one worthy of being the head of this family was His Son and only a holy man capable of sinning but strong enough not to sin was Jesus His only begotten Son. What is amazing Jesus was willing to do it. ( John 10:17-18). We see in ( 1 Corinthians 11:3) the structure of this family that we have messed up.

I feel there is more that is not in scripture that we can only speculate which gets us out of line. Satan is one of the reasons it could have only been the only begotten Son, and very little about Satan is in scripture.

I know you're probably looking for a more in-depth answer than this but for me, we would need more scripture covering after the seventh day, what happened when the angels left their first estate, and the involvement of Satan before the Garden of Eden. Sorry I know that is a big What!!!!

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Part 2.

Brother Chris,

The second question, first I do not believe anyone can deny the divinity of Jesus or His pre-existence of everything. ( Colossians 1:16) He was the beginning of creation and through Him, everything that is was created. The Son of God was with, from, and was the word of God.

I feel our mind with the preconceived ideas over the years, plugs our ears and blinds our eyes. It is like the word beginning when we see or hear the word beginning eternity pops in our head. It is like ( John 1:1-2). God has no beginning so, what is this beginning in John 1?

Scripture tells us God is from everlasting to everlasting, it tells us Jesus is the only begotten Son, the beginning of creation, but scripture does not tell us when or how he was begotten other than it was before creation and when He came in the flesh. Jesus is of God, and from God, the Son of God even the demons knew who He was and did not call Him God, ( Matthew 8:28) ( Mark 5:7) ( Luke 8:28).

In John 1, John is writing this after Jesus had ascended, in the beginning, is when the Messiah/Jesus first came, the beginning of His ministry, He was the word of God, the Word was God because it was from God, in Him was life and the light of men. John the Baptist was sent to be a witness of this light who was Jesus, and this light cometh to all in the world. It "shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not". As then the same today.

Jesus now was in the world that He made and they did not know him, He went to his own/Israel and they rejected Him. But as many that received Him became sons of God born again into the kingdom of God not of the will of the flesh but of the Father.

The word of God was made flesh, in scripture everything Jesus said or did was told to Him by God, ( John 5:30) Jesus was the word of God. In ( 1John 1:1-7) John's opening is similar to his opening in John 1, he is confirming John 1.

I hope this makes sense?

God bless,

RLW

Baptism is a topic that few fully understand. Was baptism meant for the Jews or must all be baptized today to be saved?

Amen Brother Alex, they were ONLY wounded ( Revelation 13:3) by the words of God (the sword), instead of being killed ( revelation 13:1o) by the words of God (the sword).

Precious friend, Wrath/Great Trib is for ISRAEL and the nations Mat 24 {future};

CHRIST 'Intentionally' Gave to Paul for the 'comfort' of us, The Body Of CHRIST, today = Great GRACE Departure {"NOT appointed to wrath" 1 Th 1:10; 1 Th 5:9}:

resurrection/catching up 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

changing into glorification 1 Corinthians 15:51-57

Judgment In Heaven ( 1 Co 3:6-15), after Which, CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and

unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father, In Heaven, Where we Live Forever And Ever! Amen! ( 1 Th 3:13; Col 1:5, 22; 1 Co 6:3; 2 Co 5:1-2)

Further 'study' is in the 3rd, 4th, 18th, and 19th {4-part} comments in: Link

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified! ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL, today?)

God's Simple Will: Link

But what is it to blaspheme the Holy Spirit? How does one do the blaspheming? I want to make sure I have not done it.

I have a kind Shepherd to guide me, No evil I fear on the path; He walks by my side thru the valley;

A comfort, His rod and His staff. The Lord is my Shepherd and I shall not want; He leads me beside waters still;

He maketh me to lie down in pastures green, Forever with Him I shall dwell.

He prepareth a table before me When foes try to lead me astray; In righteousness' path He will lead me,

My cup runneth over alway. The Lord is my Shepherd and I shall not want; He leads me beside waters still;

He maketh me to lie down in pastures green, Forever with Him I shall dwell.

In the desert, my soul He restoreth, Surely goodness and mercy are near; At the end of my days, when He calleth,

I'll dwell with my Shepherd so dear. The Lord is my Shepherd and I shall not want; He leads me beside waters still;

He maketh me to lie down in pastures green, Forever with Him I shall dwell.

"The Lord is My Shepherd" Lois Miller

Hi John , you are correct , the Bible doesn't mess about when discussing human sinfullness . This is why I don't believe that Ham had sex with either of his parents . I think that if he did it would say exactly that . This is just my opinion , I think that Ham found his father 'uncovered ' and had a laugh at his expense , something along the lines of ' look at this silly old drunk ' perhaps ? He said as much to his two brothers and invited them to mock their dad with him . They were a bit more respectfull , Noah awoke with a hangover and in a bit of a bad mood and realised the kind of thing that had happened because of the blanket covering his nakedness . After he had made his enquiries and learnt of Hams disrespect of him , Noah had a few choice words . This is all in my imagination of course . We can always speculate and try to read between the lines as long as we recognise that thats what we have done . May God bless us all with ears to hear and eyes to see .

I pray for my family and that God gives his protective power over us and guides us all to Him. That my children and my wife will be pricked in their consciences by Jesus and turn all of their troubles and concerns over Him to deal with instead of man. Lift the veil of deception from the eyes of my wife and let her see the truth. And help me be the kind of father that you want me to be. In Jesus Holy Name, Amen!

Reading is really fundamental, an comprehension is extremely important, following the subject matter. I'm just always trying to understand, follow, an abide by what is an isn't being taught.

Peace

The subject of that ,.. is sleeping ( death ). An that term Jesus' return,.. is the ones left that are still alive in the flesh , will instantly return to spiritual,.. that's why , if they say Jesus is here , or Jesus is there , believe them not , for upon his return this time , you instantly return to your spiritual body,.. so , as long as you are in the flesh, the real Jesus, is not here !!!

Peace

Lemme give ya my take on the Dog that returns to his vomit and the sowe that returns to her mud thats our old man that goes back into sin. Jesus said when the unclean Spirit is gone out of a man he returns and takes other demons with him and the last state of that man is worse then the beginning. Remember when the Woman gives birth to the manchild which is the H.G. Our new INNERMAN That Child of Promise there was war in heaven ( in the Spirit our minds etc) But its only our old adamic nature the TARES that returns to the mud and the Dog that returns his vomit not our New INNERMAN the H.G. the Child of Promise the Kingdom of God that is gonna be with in US. But the woman was involved in war in heaven But her Child is the H.G. the Child of PROMISE and will rule all nations including our old adamic nature that is in rank with Satan. We are All anti Christ according to our old man, Our adamic nature thats y he refers to Peter as Satan and thats y we must be Bornagain of an incorruptible seed Even by the words of God that new covenant. Our God is a consuming fire and that is what we need. Baptism of the H.G and fire.

Need prayer for me and loved ones. I'm saved but need to move closer to God. Pray that my family would see the need to look to the Lord and ask Him to save them. I felt at one time that God was wanting me to preach the gospel. And I have stood 5 or 6 times and read over scripture that the Lord put on my heart.But now I'm not so sure that was what the Lord was wanting me to do. Please pray for my family that God will save them and pray for me that if God wants me to preach he will put the anointing on me, and if not, pray that the Lord will show me his will and I will step aside. Thank You.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 - if you don't like the word rapture you can call it whatever you'd like, but it would be hard to deny this event in the Bible. Here it says "caught up". We're simply reading and believing this scripture- do you believe 1 Thessalonians 4:17?

Amen thank you God for sending your son JESUS

By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, who can know His own ways? Abiding in Him, will determine our outcome, the savior of the world!

The scriptures speak clearly that 'those who Are alive and remain' will go through them great tribulation'. We have been misled and deceived even by entire denominations saying,"We will escape." This has not been intentional, but rather 'soothing' and easier to swallow. Did Daniel escape before the den of hungry lions? Did the three Hebrew boys escape before the fire? Did John the Baptist escape His beheading, although 'sent from God'? Did any one of the disciples escape horrible deaths? Did Christ Jesus escape betrayal, torture or death? How dare we consider ourselves more worthy than any of them or the billions who lived before us. We may or may not be among those who 'remain alive' until His return. But Paul tells us to be absent From the body is to be present with the Lord' and it is THOSE whom He will bring back with him!

I know the bible often discusses the most despicable and unsavory parts of man's sinful nature. The account in Genesis where Ham "saw the nakedness" of his father seems to be one such scripture.

Growing up hearing and studying Genesis 9:22, I was taught Ham was cursed because he literally "saw the nakedness" of his father Noah. (This seems to be the most polite way of explaining what actually happened.)

Here is the full account of this incident:

Genesis. 9:22

And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brethren without.

23. And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father, and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24. And Noah awoke from his wine and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25. And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

I have recently come across an interpretation of this incident that is rather disturbing.

In Lev. 18: 12: Thou shalt not "uncover the nakedness" of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman. God is forbidding copulation with close relatives.

In Genesis 9:22 The language is very similar and seems to indicate that Ham copulated with his father Noah and possibly with his mother because a son of Ham was also cursed.

I know this incident is a little unsavory. However, it is in the word of God, and I would like to know the truth about this incident. Especially, in light of the current worldly corruption that is permeating every part of our current world.

Blasphemy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Most people blaspheme the Holy Spirit all day every day.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (SPIRIT, since God is Holy, the Spirit is Holy; thus Holy Spirit) which WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

The WORD says the Holy Spirit CAUSES ALL THINGS to be done OF THE WILL of the Holy Spirit, man says NO it's done by mans FREE WILL. Not the miracles of the Holy Spirit.



Matthew 12:32 Says this sin will not be forgiven in THIS AGE (of the calling out of the chosen) or the AGE TO COME (age of judgement); but after judgement they will learn righteousness ( Isaiah 26:9).

Clinging to the cross, while satan is slipping, the sooner his time comes the less control He has. The revelation found in Christ, the power found in the Holy Spirit to guide our way. You are quite right, this tribulation that will come from hell trying to pry the Holy Spirit out of the believing soul. THIS ONE THE SPIRIT OF DARKNESS has taken his place. Those with the mark of Christ shall shine forth. This then is the beginning of judgment! Repent and be baptized

Not a problem. It's good to hear from people, may the Lord shine His face on you, and give you grace in all things. You have a great day in Christ.

In studying and researching the ten Commandments and the topic of "divorce" we discover that men were getting married by placing their cloak over a woman as a sign that she was protected through him. We also discover that once separated, the man and woman could not remarry because it was a form of - incest ... lying.

Yes, all things are to be forgotten once Christ Jesus has life in and through any person; and Revelations 22:15 tells us who will be "outside" of the gates as well as those who are blasphemous.

[satan being the father of all lies reveals who is leading one who is a liar, and why the one who follows satan will not be allowed in heaven. A person can repent and be consumed within the marriage to Christ Jesus and cast satan out of their life.]

Thank you. What you said is what i believe but I had read several statements making it sound bad to be a vegetarian so I thought I would ask.

Only one of the elect, can commit the unpardonable sin ,.. an it's that way , because God protects the majority,.. for he knows only the elect can do this certain job ,.. the elect are not anymore special than all of us , an God loves all his children equally,.. there just the ones that fought Lucifer, when his pride got the best of him , an he fell , along with some angels that followed him instead of God ,.. also a third of our brothers and sisters also followed Lucifer, an that put our Heavenly Father, in a very frustrating situation,.. kill a third of his children ? Or destroy the whole situation, creating this flesh situation, for ALL to decide, weather you will follow God ? or satin ,.. the last shall be first, an the first shall be last ,.. welp , here we are , in the latter days ,.. will you help make Jesus' enemies his foot stool ? or will you be taken in by the false Jesus? The choice is yours ,.. read , study , an ask our Heavenly Father, for leadership, guidance, direction, an to never take his wall of protection down from you ,

Peace

please remember myself and my family today in your prayers , remember my co workers

Thanks so very much for taking the time to respond. You have answered my question with the same response I arrived at, however, it is a blessing that you took your precious time to do so. Again THANKS.

MAY GOD RICHLY BLESS YOU FOR YOUR ACT OF KINDNESS!!!!!